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Sept. 8, 2026

When the Jiu-Jitsu Galaxy Turns Dark: Scandals, Steroids & Sith Lords (Episode 79)

When the Jiu-Jitsu Galaxy Turns Dark: Scandals, Steroids & Sith Lords (Episode 79)
When the Jiu-Jitsu Galaxy Turns Dark: Scandals, Steroids & Sith Lords (Episode 79)
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When the Jiu-Jitsu Galaxy Turns Dark: Scandals, Steroids & Sith Lords (Episode 79)

Key Takeaways

  • Jiu-jitsu scandals, team splits, and allegations surrounding prominent grappling figures have completely upended the hosts' original Star Wars-themed map of the grappling world.
  • The conversation touches on serious community issues, including historical and recent discussions surrounding PED use, performance-enhancing drugs given to minors, and inappropriate conduct within major training camps.
  • The hosts analyze the fractures within teams like B-Team and Simple Man, noting how shifting alliances and personal controversies have muddied the competitive landscape.
  • When examining the dark side of martial arts culture, the hosts emphasize that taking a broader look at combat sports reveals how fame and online platforms can amplify poor personal behavior.
  • Ultimately, the hosts conclude that searching for a pure 'good guy' in elite jiu-jitsu might be futile, as the sport is largely populated by fallible humans vying for dominance.

Join hosts Scott Dance and Michael Sutherland on Fighters Drinking Coffee as they revisit their Star Wars-themed map of the grappling world and try to make sense of recent twists: team splits, resurfacing allegations, and shifting alliances that have muddied their original castings.

Topics include allegations of steroid distribution (including to minors) tied to the Mendez circle, accusations and conduct questions within prominent teams (Craig, Donaher, Gordon, J‑Rod and others), the fallout inside B‑Team/Simple Man, and how all of this plays into the upcoming ADCC brackets and competitor narratives.

Key takeaways: the hosts re-evaluate who’s a villain or hero, discuss the cultural problems in modern jiu‑jitsu, and urge listeners to keep training, be decent humans, and submit their own theories at fdcpodcast.com.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What are some of the recent jiu-jitsu scandals discussed on Fighters Drinking Coffee?

The hosts discuss various controversies in the grappling world, including team splits, surfacing allegations, and discussions regarding steroid distribution and questionable conduct among prominent competitors.

How have team dynamics changed in the Austin jiu-jitsu scene?

Recent events, such as Craig Jones splitting from B-Team, shifting training locations, and the return of competitors like J-Rod, have caused friction and altered the landscape of top-tier grappling camps.

What is the Star Wars analogy used for the jiu-jitsu world?

The hosts originally mapped top figures and coaches to Star Wars characters like Palpatine and Sith apprentices to explain gym politics, though recent scandals have caused them to re-evaluate who plays the villain.

00:17 - Star Wars Theory Revisited

02:54 - Questioning the Big Bad

08:04 - B-Team Split Rumors

15:48 - Everyone Looks Suspicious

18:56 - Sith Empire Analogy

24:42 - ADCC Brackets and Dropouts

29:38 - Jiu-Jitsu’s Messy Reality

33:11 - Handler-Free Chaos

37:04 - Sports, Secrecy, and Shame

41:39 - Just Train and Behave

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee. We are your hosts with 40 years of

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combined grappling experience that won't really matter on this episode.

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Yeah, Scott Dance. Michael Sutherland. And, well, today we're not going to be

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giving you anything to make your jiu-jitsu easier, but hopefully it will make

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your jiu-jitsu funnier.

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So I've recently been questioning our decisions about who we've assigned our

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Star Wars characters to.

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Uh good even though it's i guess it really hasn't been that long right like

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it's been less than it hasn't even been six months yeah um since we've,

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it might have been six months since we came up with our star wars concept uh and,

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yeah like one thing i saw so disclaimer here This is based off of maybe a combined

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five minutes of information that I've seen.

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Across multiple little clips and snippets from other media.

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You're like Charlie in the mailroom trying to put you together.

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I'm just trying to find out who Pepe Sylvia is. Pepe Sylvia.

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And, yeah, so, like, I'm going to have this stem from the fact we,

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the figurehead of all of our Star Wars theory.

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Second table first, Michael. The figurehead of our Star Wars theory was that

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Palpatine was, like, engineering the fall of the Republic.

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And so Donahue was Palpatine, and he was, like, engineering all of the beef between his multiple.

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Sith apprentices and his future

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apprentices and the people he's all trying to turn to the dark side.

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I didn't know, like, you know, Gordon was, I guess, did we assign him Darth

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Vader? Or maybe we assigned him.

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I don't think he got a full designation. We assigned him as a Sith apprentice.

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Fair enough. Same thing with. You assigned him as a Sith apprentice. Yes.

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But so. I've been reacting to all of this. I'll back you up on it, but.

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I would, I want to try to come to a new conclusion by the end of the episode.

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But recently I've seen like Donner seems to be like more friendly with like Craig.

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In, I see, I saw some, like, it seemed like recent footage of him training with,

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like, the Simple Man guys, and, like, Formerly B-Team.

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Formerly B-Team, yeah. So, like, I saw him, like, training at their location.

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Because I think we called it B-Team back when we talked about it originally.

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Yeah, Simple Man was not official yet. So much has happened.

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So much has happened, in such a short span of time.

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We had, so, like, that's coming into question. Like, maybe he isn't the bad

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guy maybe he's not the like orchestrator and maybe it's a little bit different

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of a dynamic than we originally built out okay um,

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Because maybe he's not the ultimate big bad of the entire series,

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right? Like, Matt, that's what I'm getting at with that.

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Craig is in exile, right? There's a few more villainous creatures that have

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emerged in the last six months.

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Some of the villainous creatures were pitched as potential, like,

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potential, like, the Luke Skywalkers or the Obi-Wan, like, as the,

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like, shining beacon of goodness.

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Like, the Mendez bros. or I don't think Melky Galval wasn't pitched,

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but now we can definitively say that,

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probably not a good guy. Rough. Definitely not. That was a pretty bad scenario.

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About as bad as it gets. Yeah.

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So, you know, like. Allegedly.

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It has not come to a full conclusion. All this allegedly. Remember Mike's going

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off of a couple five-minute interest posts.

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Lots of them, though. That one's not a five-minute interest post.

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We've talked about that on that.

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Indeed. We've talked about that on the show of, like, these dudes that, yeah.

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There were articles. There were articles. More than an Instagram post.

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Actual police. We actually found, like, the actual police report,

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like, what was filed and everything. Want me to pull up the latest on Instagram

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or on the internet just in case?

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On his thing? Might as well. I mean, you can.

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While we're talking, the other, like, there's been, I don't know how recent or, but,

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actually people saying it more so uh i don't know if it's really breaking news

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you know like people talking about like aoj giving steroids to kids and all

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of these different places you know they're they're,

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they're encouraging the they're encouraging doping to minors to teenagers you know like to uh.

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So this is going to make you a champion you got to get on the bomba is that what they did uh,

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i mean imagine that's how they're i imagine that's how the conversation probably

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goes something like that for sure i don't know if that's the exact i didn't

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know if there's any like data or information on like how they were um this i

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mean but this is not like it's,

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if this is coming out as like a thing,

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it's not a new thing no no this isn't like i we you could almost you could look

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at most of these and be like oh no like dude just by the way it look here if

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i may i'll take a step back here right like the prevalence of jiu-jitsu and

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steroids it's been i I just,

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yeah, I've resigned to it many years ago. I don't even consider it,

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like, the worst crime in the world.

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But I'll tell you, I think it was the year that IBJF started at least advertising

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that they would test for steroids. It was when both of the Mendez brothers stopped competing.

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Yeah. And they always looked like fucking units, dude.

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I'm just saying. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, dude.

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Well, and, like, anyone could have told—I don't think this is, like, a major—,

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By the way, nothing compared to what Melky did.

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Just to draw. I guess giving kids some steroids is kind of a mess.

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It's kind of bad. But then also.

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Did they tell the parents? Well, I don't know if you remember.

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My kid just became a freak for no reason. Like, gonna look away.

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He's gonna get so many good college scholarships. I imagine they told their parents.

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I would imagine so. Yeah, I mean, their parents would probably be helping.

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I don't know. Maybe they aren't. But maybe their parents are helping administer.

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I don't know. They're like, hey, your kid is gonna be something.

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Thing give them this um but i mean if you remember and this maybe it maybe it's

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related maybe it's not but,

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some of the world champs that came out from under milky got popped for oh yeah

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steroids and so when you compare that to like pederasty that becomes like that like true,

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i'm just saying like steroids and jiu-jitsu they're like 17 18 19 16 17 18 19 steroids specifically.

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Been around not new not surprising i'm not saying it's okay i guess the definitely

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the list of milky's crimes that one's sort of like i will get to that when we

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get well i think the the point that,

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was the point that was made in the the audio snippet i had heard um,

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was that if you're willing to where's the line right if you're willing to push

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drugs to kids if you're willing to push drugs on kids where is the line i fucking

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agree with you yeah like hey if they're doing this,

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why maybe they would be willing to do other things too you know that that was

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kind of the they weren't accusing them of they were like mendez bros are doing

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this um but you know they were just saying like hey like if they want to do

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that what else are they willing to do what other what other,

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shady inquestionable things are they willing to there's at least one case of

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other nasty things taking place with a person giving out steroids to kids.

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Yeah. Allegedly. So, you know, it's...

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One of those things. So, yeah, some turns have tabled since our prior Star Wars episode.

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And so we thought it might be important to revisit.

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Our thoughts on that. Our plot map of who is who.

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Because one that, so outside the Donner thing, another one that gets a little

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interesting is that now it's coming out that Craig and the B team split.

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Maybe it wasn't as amicable as it appeared. What are the rumors?

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Let's start with rumors. Because I'm assuming there's nothing.

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I mean, I haven't heard. I mean, I don't want to platform too much for somebody,

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but I've heard that like. Without naming names. Yeah.

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You know, there's been. Speculating. I'm going to add this, but you know,

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the speculation, the inklings.

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We're talking about a hypothetical. We're talking about Star Wars.

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Everything's hypothetical. You know, like, there was, you know,

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there's been some people coming out about, like, maybe some conduct stuff that

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was going on amongst the leadership. Okay.

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And so that leads me to question, like, all right, like.

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What the hell's happening? Well, we've seen a lot of, like, Craig trying to,

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and I'm just speculating, we've seen, that we have seen, this is a fact,

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that we've seen Craig, like, trying to point out a lot of the people that are doing,

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weird shit, immoral, like, stuff with sexual conduct. Yeah, immoral sexual conduct.

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Inappropriate sexual behavior. And this isn't, he's not like pointing out people

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that are just like hooking up with consenting adults.

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Okay. This is, he's pointing out like people that are stalking,

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sexual assault, stuff like that, right? And so, someone coming out talking about,

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some conduct with women between that involves that group. It's like,

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all right, well, maybe that's a dividing factor.

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Maybe that means that that's how, you know, that Craig's been pretty vocal about

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being, is he distancing himself from them because of certain behaviors like this?

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Maybe it's just like, cause it, it kind of lines up with the second Craig leaves.

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They bring back J-Rod, you know, he comes back not long afterwards.

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He's back. So, like, that might have been a thing that, that might have been

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a wedge. J-Rod was pretty open about some of the issues that he had had.

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Yeah, and, you know, on the spectrum of things that we've seen in jiu-jitsu,

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it wasn't, you know, it's not quite at the peak of, like. It's not the higher

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end, it's not that rusty.

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But still, inappropriate behavior as a figurehead of an organization,

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right? Like, as someone who's supposed to be, like.

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Uh an example an example or you know someone that you're putting on you're you're

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pushing right you're yeah they're putting this guy out in front of people yeah

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not someone you want representing right so i could see that like,

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maybe that drove a wedge between craig and the other guys that's a possibility

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too that they're like hey we really don't like how you handled taking out,

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nick you know nick's brother so we're not down you know i just trying to you

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know i'm spitballing a couple Yeah, yeah, yeah, speculating.

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We saw what happened, and there's been, I mean, allegations of consensual stuff

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between Craig and somebody, and so, I don't know. It's just there's a lot of different angles.

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A lot of people boning each other, and it's getting kind of messy, huh? A lot of boning.

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Hey, by the way, shout out to not boning your teammates or your students.

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Don't forget, that's a good idea to not do that. We were talking about that this morning.

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Just keep your dick out of the gym. Just, you know, it's, yeah,

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you know, it just makes life a lot simpler. It just keeps it easy.

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Just don't do it. Just don't do it.

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Yeah, it just makes it easy. It makes it a lot easier if you're not doing that.

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For sure. Doesn't drive wedges in between you and your teammates.

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Correct. As seen in this very prominent example. Indeed.

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So, you know, that's one other potential thing.

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So you could say, hey, maybe Craig is still, you know, our good guy in this

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scenario. But maybe he's not.

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Right? And so, like, I... Before we get into the Star Wars analogies,

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you know, he's a public figure. He's just...

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Because we're going to come after public figures. It's unclear.

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He hasn't gotten any... I haven't gotten any milky or other Galveo allegations

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to my knowledge. So, again, in the scale of...

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Bad behavior, he doesn't seem to have that type of smoke.

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Yeah. Currently, I don't know. As of right now, yeah, seems to be doing pretty

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good. And, you know, like, he appears to be a pretty, like, normal,

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okay guy. Well, and honest, at least. You know, like, he's pretty honest.

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Like, hey, I'm not, like, a great dude.

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But, you know, he's like, I like to party and do steroids and do drugs.

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Sex, drugs, and rock and roll, party life. Yeah, he's like, hey,

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like, I'm not a role model.

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And, you know, maybe the fact that some people see him as one is a problem, too. I don't know.

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And I think he's even said that. He's like, if I'm the good guy in jujitsu,

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then we have a serious culture problem. He said something along those lines.

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Yeah, he's still trying to be a famous guy. And, like, that stuff actually even

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works. Trying to be a famous guy is like, I'm just kind of a wild man.

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People like that shit. People like that rock and roll shit, dude.

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You could also look at the fact that, like, he left, he took his talents to

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Tulum, Mexico, right? Like, which...

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Hey, maybe he just likes that, but he, you know, he's, he's fled the country.

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So that's also like a, an interesting, another interesting plot twist to the

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whole thing, right? Like he's now in Mexico full time living basically on a

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resort. That's what he's doing.

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Yeah. I mean, so he's opening a gym in a resort, like in an all inclusive resort.

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Well, okay. It's pretty interesting. It is. So, you know, just kind of like

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the, there's a little mix up there of like our whole. Some things are shifting.

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Yeah. From the Austin, Texas scene, huh? So it makes it all very,

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the waters have muddied. And. Okay.

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I mean, Gordon's still a weirdo. He's still him, but.

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Yeah. He's still like. Seems like he's just being a businessman.

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He's just being him. He's still, you know, a little odd.

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Yeah, but what's new? Which, yeah. I mean, he's at least consistent.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have a whole lot of new stuff from there.

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If you say anything about that guy, he is consistent. Yeah.

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He has not changed. I mean, there was like a, during, there was like a short

00:14:34.352 --> 00:14:39.003
spurt of people like sharing their, uh,

00:14:40.273 --> 00:14:43.888
private like their dm conversations with him and oh yeah i remember that stuff

00:14:43.888 --> 00:14:46.948
like that he just like hollers at girls all the time yeah he just he's like

00:14:46.948 --> 00:14:50.458
constantly dropping to dms and then he also had like the whole thing with his

00:14:50.458 --> 00:14:54.709
girlfriend with like with his uh wife where like the whole.

00:14:56.061 --> 00:15:00.932
Juice no well that but also like her whole thing of like getting in getting

00:15:01.309 --> 00:15:05.825
fleeing the country to get away from a dui and stuff how'd that ever shake,

00:15:06.348 --> 00:15:09.958
uh shoot i have no idea with it she's probably still just out of the country

00:15:09.958 --> 00:15:14.358
and probably she shows back up she's just ah fucked i guess i don't know she's

00:15:14.358 --> 00:15:17.898
the one who got hammered she's like i'm going to fucking jujitsu yeah nice and

00:15:17.898 --> 00:15:20.506
then uh we also have isaac michelle,

00:15:21.029 --> 00:15:24.541
oh yeah so that whole thing too was he still in the run too,

00:15:25.658 --> 00:15:30.378
uh i think they got him oh okay they finally kicked him out of adcc also okay

00:15:30.378 --> 00:15:34.833
it took them oh that was a while ago but like that was a whole thing too of like,

00:15:35.407 --> 00:15:38.468
we're gonna kick this guy out Well, like people just be like,

00:15:38.468 --> 00:15:41.095
dude, are you going to get, are you going to remove this,

00:15:41.774 --> 00:15:43.978
this wanted criminal from your,

00:15:44.845 --> 00:15:47.713
from your roster for worlds? Like, what are you doing?

00:15:49.228 --> 00:15:54.518
So yeah, like a bunch of shit got weird. Right. So our, our whole.

00:15:54.858 --> 00:15:58.110
Turns out jujitsu attracts some pretty weird people.

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Breaking news. Breaking news.

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Weird unhinged male behavior. Who would have guessed it?

00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:10.248
But yeah, so our whole Star Wars theory kind of got like twisted up.

00:16:10.398 --> 00:16:13.452
It's thrown through the fucking, you know, we don't even know we're all twisted up here.

00:16:13.620 --> 00:16:17.667
So, I don't know, maybe we have to come up with a whole new theory. I...

00:16:18.613 --> 00:16:24.579
I don't know. Maybe they're all Sith Lords. Maybe we're in the dark times.

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We're in the peak of the Sith Empire, I guess. Perhaps. And everyone's just

00:16:32.749 --> 00:16:35.633
evil, and the rule of two doesn't exist yet.

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It's actually just a bunch of Sith Lords vying for ultimate power.

00:16:41.119 --> 00:16:44.539
Maybe it's just Highlander. That could be a... It's Highlander.

00:16:44.779 --> 00:16:46.179
We need to find another analogy.

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Uh yeah so uh the they're all a member of the evil forces though is where i'm,

00:16:53.499 --> 00:17:00.302
i think i'm leaning to now and like the rest of us are just kind of like existing within it,

00:17:01.945 --> 00:17:03.939
we're all under the iron fist of,

00:17:05.997 --> 00:17:10.089
uh i don't know what to call it well you know it's the it's the sith empire

00:17:10.089 --> 00:17:15.199
was a competitive combat athletes on a mega scale with a bunch of instagram

00:17:15.199 --> 00:17:17.694
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I don't know. They would have gotten it if they did anything else in life. Yeah.

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When you break it down to the lowest common denominator, it's like not a big

00:18:01.453 --> 00:18:05.894
surprise. You're just going to get a bunch of crazy behavior. So it's not surprising.

00:18:07.043 --> 00:18:10.813
It is surprising when you see it, but like I said, you take a couple steps back

00:18:10.813 --> 00:18:13.973
and you're like, nah, it kind of checks out. I mean, think about the crazy shit

00:18:13.973 --> 00:18:16.863
you've seen in like the local jujitsu scene.

00:18:17.263 --> 00:18:19.455
I mean, yeah, it's very true. You've seen wild shit.

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Wild people doing wild, dumb stuff.

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Stuff so then like you 10x that at least well yeah now you take it to a global

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scale and it's like and you put them with like,

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instagram instagram and way more shit to deal with only fans girls yeah just austin in general for,

00:18:39.323 --> 00:18:44.573
a good portion of it like now they're just in texas and doing texas things on

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top of the only way everything's bigger in florida,

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you can bind those together and it's a whole whole nother thing yeah sort of

00:18:53.193 --> 00:18:55.345
just vibes it checks out with the entire like.

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General history of people that I've seen in martial arts well in a small scale

00:19:02.363 --> 00:19:07.793
but there's they're just it's amplified and so the way that the Sith Empire

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worked alright let's hear it so we're gonna throw this so we're back,

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night so there was the old republic yep and the knights of the old republic

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right and then from within it collapsed because the night some of the jedi

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split off i'm gonna nerd out it's gonna be great bring it uh and some of the

00:19:24.622 --> 00:19:28.722
jedi split off and joined the sith cut and then more and this is when there's

00:19:28.722 --> 00:19:34.012
actually like sith armies not rule of two there's not there can only be two of them,

00:19:34.532 --> 00:19:38.172
whatever right i don't know this stuff so this is fun uh so the knights of the

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old republic was a game and it was amazing uh it's all right it's like pinnacle

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lore is based on the game all right,

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i remember the game i never played it but i remember like seeing it i remember

00:19:48.052 --> 00:19:51.612
thinking it looked fucking cool it was yeah it was a cool way like i unfortunately

00:19:51.612 --> 00:19:55.602
missed it could just like do i mean you're just a jedi right battling and shit

00:19:55.602 --> 00:19:58.716
yeah rpg doing jedi battling and shit yeah uh,

00:19:59.672 --> 00:20:03.492
great like who doesn't want a lightsaber battle yeah uh but so basically like

00:20:03.492 --> 00:20:09.542
the two main forces were turned to the dark side, like forcibly transitioned to the dark side.

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One of them ends up transitioning back and forth. It's a whole thing.

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But the whole point is like the Sith Empire is able to gain enough traction

00:20:19.172 --> 00:20:24.302
that they just like they turn all the good guys to the bad side or you could

00:20:24.302 --> 00:20:25.392
even be... Mass conversion.

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Or it could be if you are the hero long enough, you live long enough to see

00:20:31.002 --> 00:20:33.352
yourself become the villain. Similar concept.

00:20:34.063 --> 00:20:39.902
Nothing's new okay but so like they all the powerful good guys basically come

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bad guys and just like wipe out the good guys for a while and then,

00:20:43.752 --> 00:20:47.342
like most come back and when eventually they come back and there's the republic

00:20:47.342 --> 00:20:50.222
again but then there's still the sleeper cells there's always well the sith

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destroys itself that's why they're why the rule of two so they like start infighting.

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So that's where we're at right now right we're at the point where we're i'm

00:21:00.092 --> 00:21:02.612
gonna go ahead and throw it out there we're at the point where we're at the

00:21:02.612 --> 00:21:07.429
infighting and now they're just all really just powerful bad dudes,

00:21:08.085 --> 00:21:12.652
that are just trying to see who's the most powerful bad dude yeah and in fact

00:21:12.652 --> 00:21:15.022
most of them do fight on a world stage,

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oh so like,

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most of our competitors say duel so what i'm saying yeah they will in the game

00:21:23.995 --> 00:21:27.735
no well i'm just this past this we're past the game i'm interested in the game

00:21:27.735 --> 00:21:31.785
this is just the outside but so like the sith like you know they're they're

00:21:31.785 --> 00:21:34.091
warring with each other to try to buy for,

00:21:34.590 --> 00:21:38.613
ultimate power to be the emperor of the sith or whatever um,

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and so now they're just like that's where we're at,

00:21:43.725 --> 00:21:49.505
and we have all these individuals that are also just bad guys I'm basically just saying,

00:21:50.105 --> 00:21:55.191
jujitsu is just full of like well we're all fallible humans we're exacerbating this but,

00:21:55.696 --> 00:21:59.235
you know you have like no one is the good guy in this scenario is what I'm saying

00:21:59.235 --> 00:22:02.775
we don't have the good guy I would say you're right yeah and so they're all

00:22:02.775 --> 00:22:06.186
just like vying for ultimate power to see who's the best in the world champion.

00:22:07.945 --> 00:22:10.525
So that's where we're at in the yeah I'm gonna throw that out there I think

00:22:10.525 --> 00:22:12.065
that's The old Republic, all right.

00:22:12.065 --> 00:22:16.405
At least outwardly. With it, in terms of scale and positioning of the Star Wars

00:22:16.405 --> 00:22:17.665
lore. We're in the peak of the Sith.

00:22:17.705 --> 00:22:21.209
Pre-times. We're in the downfall of the Sith Empire. I'm going to give us hope.

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Eventually, the Republic will rise again.

00:22:24.325 --> 00:22:26.585
And we'll have good guys.

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And then we'll have to deal with the Sith Empire. We'll have to deal with the

00:22:29.755 --> 00:22:33.034
Empire. And basically, you know, it's just a cycle, guys.

00:22:33.196 --> 00:22:36.655
It's all a cycle. Bad guys come into power. Then it's just...

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Hey, don't I know it. Yeah. But ultimately, you can revel in the fact that if

00:22:40.935 --> 00:22:45.153
you watch ADCC Worlds, you'll get to see the Sith battle to the death.

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Are there any Siths that are matched up for ADCC? I don't think they've released the bracket yet.

00:22:51.005 --> 00:22:54.100
Any Siths in the bracket that you're like... No, they do it,

00:22:54.100 --> 00:22:56.310
like, the day before, don't they? Well, they won't have the bracket yet,

00:22:56.310 --> 00:22:57.953
but they've announced some of the competitors.

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Whether any Sith Lords are like, ooh, he's a bad boy.

00:23:01.310 --> 00:23:04.390
I mean, there's some that I would say aren't bad guys. Like,

00:23:04.390 --> 00:23:09.150
they have, like, Gavin Corbett's. We'll give Gavin a break. He's not a bad guy. He's a good guy.

00:23:09.910 --> 00:23:13.240
Gavin's a good dude. I'd have to pull up the... There's too many...

00:23:13.370 --> 00:23:16.250
I'd have to pull the whole bracket out. Are there any names that you know off the top of your head?

00:23:18.630 --> 00:23:23.101
Craig's in it? Craig competing? I've heard I thought they announced a poster,

00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:29.670
I couldn't tell if it was Craig announcing a joke fair enough or it's tough

00:23:29.670 --> 00:23:35.477
to read what he's up to so let's just ADCC that would be the minus 88 bracket,

00:23:36.063 --> 00:23:38.786
minus 88 kilogram worlds,

00:23:40.467 --> 00:23:45.210
well there are there are matchups I that would be interested in because like

00:23:45.210 --> 00:23:51.676
we have it would be cool because I think so we have Brandon Reed is beating and,

00:23:53.710 --> 00:23:57.354
bless you at the heavyweight um Clem,

00:23:59.048 --> 00:24:01.393
Why can't it just give me the things I ask for?

00:24:03.552 --> 00:24:08.823
But so we have Ren and Reed at Heavyweight. Give me the fucking brackets.

00:24:10.983 --> 00:24:14.358
Shit, this is awful. Whatever.

00:24:16.300 --> 00:24:22.008
I can't pull up all of them. There's too many. Yeah, I can't name them off the

00:24:22.008 --> 00:24:23.516
top of my head. I would have to pull it up. That's all right.

00:24:23.765 --> 00:24:28.958
So once I have it, I can tell you, give you the full bit because I don't remember

00:24:28.958 --> 00:24:30.768
who all has been announced.

00:24:30.768 --> 00:24:33.288
I know they've been giving out invitations. I'm on their page right now.

00:24:33.288 --> 00:24:35.798
It just looks like a shit ton of clips. Can't really find any.

00:24:35.798 --> 00:24:40.778
I know a lot of people have dropped out because they were like, no, fuck ADCC.

00:24:42.688 --> 00:24:47.888
Yeah? What are they going to? There's no CGI. UFC, BJJ. Oh, no,

00:24:47.888 --> 00:24:49.598
it's begun. Yeah, it's begun.

00:24:51.036 --> 00:24:57.369
Yeah, so I've seen that where people are like, no, we're out.

00:24:57.770 --> 00:25:02.778
Are you on their page uh I found nothing on their page yeah I don't see any

00:25:02.778 --> 00:25:07.551
of it makes me wonder like did everybody drop out um yeah.

00:25:10.211 --> 00:25:15.032
But ADCC official, I know that there is. Yeah, I think it gives you some answers.

00:25:15.032 --> 00:25:21.862
Because also, a lot of people have been dropping out because they disagree with.

00:25:21.862 --> 00:25:23.452
Oh, here we go, actually. I did find it.

00:25:23.938 --> 00:25:27.982
Their pay practices. Oh, turn the volume off. Sorry, bro. I was trying to get

00:25:27.982 --> 00:25:30.468
the freaking 88 division in front of us here.

00:25:31.362 --> 00:25:35.322
At 88, dude, here's what I have. I have Joseph Chen, Powell Jaworski,

00:25:35.322 --> 00:25:41.872
Jaworski, Nathan Haddad, Pedro Mourinho J-Rod what up bad boy there's one redemption

00:25:41.872 --> 00:25:43.732
story so actually there's the one if,

00:25:44.975 --> 00:25:50.501
if Craig is an 88 he's going against his boys Craig versus J-Rod,

00:25:51.792 --> 00:25:56.502
there's there's your Sith battle well Joseph Chen was a B team too oh Joseph

00:25:56.502 --> 00:25:59.352
Chen I didn't hear sorry I missed the yeah yeah yeah so yeah Joseph Chen,

00:26:00.062 --> 00:26:04.742
99's interesting it's just to put aside all this bullshit we're talking about

00:26:04.742 --> 00:26:11.422
just like the division itself is Felipe Pena Victor Hugo Big Daniel Menesu,

00:26:12.235 --> 00:26:19.178
Pouya Rahmani Francis Pana Heikey Jusula Juicy Heikey.

00:26:20.838 --> 00:26:26.160
I think his name's funny. Tito Giancarla, Brandon Reed, Bilal,

00:26:26.456 --> 00:26:34.293
Itibari, Itibari, Nick Hartman, Pedro Lucas, Roosevelt Sousa. That's a good division.

00:26:35.111 --> 00:26:41.230
Hysam Rita, Mark McQueen, Josh Saunders, and Ruslan Abdullayev.

00:26:42.263 --> 00:26:48.504
Yeah. 77 is PJ Bartsch, Mateus something or other. I'm not going to try to say that.

00:26:49.164 --> 00:26:52.554
Wagner, Dante. Mateusz, that'll be a great division. Well, if it's something,

00:26:52.554 --> 00:26:57.455
I think it's Mateusz, the guy from Marcello, Marcello's guy. Nice.

00:26:57.890 --> 00:27:00.856
No, it's not Mateusz. Different Mateusz? No, no, no, no. Mateusz.

00:27:03.164 --> 00:27:06.914
Different guy then. Polish guy. Elijah Dorsey, Tommy Langeker,

00:27:06.914 --> 00:27:10.080
Kaya Rudolph, Mateusz Gamrot, a lot of Mateusz's.

00:27:10.916 --> 00:27:18.881
Jacob Bornemann, Nikolaj Witrow, Michael Sainz, Magomed Zarbaev,

00:27:19.432 --> 00:27:23.917
Julio Martins Alexandre de Jesus Jesus,

00:27:25.995 --> 00:27:31.411
he's Brazilian so the Jesus Oliver Taza Taylor Perlman nice division,

00:27:32.085 --> 00:27:35.834
yeah start talking about the divisions yeah there's a lot of 66 I'll finish

00:27:35.834 --> 00:27:36.949
I might as well yeah mine's a little,

00:27:37.460 --> 00:27:43.284
my's a little Nico de Mikulsins this is a blah blah Polish bro alright I mean

00:27:43.284 --> 00:27:47.734
they are in Poland but yeah don't they get doesn't don't they get like an automatic

00:27:47.734 --> 00:27:50.028
for someone from that country. Don't know.

00:27:50.394 --> 00:27:57.075
Dorian Olivares, Ryoma An-Kraku, Yigit Hane,

00:27:58.045 --> 00:28:06.677
David Santos, Kawhi Gabriel, Gianni Gripo, Bekzat Kapashov.

00:28:08.047 --> 00:28:12.517
Fabricio Andre, Jacob Will Clocks, Kennedy Maciel.

00:28:12.894 --> 00:28:15.152
That dude looks like he's on some sauce, by the way. I don't know if you saw

00:28:15.152 --> 00:28:17.074
him flexing on Instagram. Which guy?

00:28:18.112 --> 00:28:22.993
Kennedy Maciel. Cobrinha's kid. Oh, yeah. Yoked, bro.

00:28:23.371 --> 00:28:28.442
Diego Pato, Felipe Machado, Owen Jones, Dominic Mejia, and Josh Cisneros.

00:28:28.442 --> 00:28:30.273
Good division, too. I think Dorian's going to win.

00:28:30.714 --> 00:28:33.146
Okay. All right.

00:28:33.878 --> 00:28:39.612
Yeah. The women. They are. far less controversial the women are all very well

00:28:39.612 --> 00:28:44.232
behaved it seems like we don't we don't have enough there's not as much information on the,

00:28:45.152 --> 00:28:48.772
yeah we don't know antics of the women other than just like winning matches

00:28:48.772 --> 00:28:52.562
there's a lot of the worst thing you probably say is just guilty by association

00:28:52.562 --> 00:28:57.452
at this point I don't know enough I mean I'm gonna leave the daughter of one of the accused,

00:28:57.952 --> 00:29:01.102
I will say she's just trying to train dude she's like in high school or something

00:29:01.102 --> 00:29:01.972
dude no I'm saying they're all,

00:29:02.472 --> 00:29:05.872
I'm just saying the ladies have been well behaved the worst I've heard is,

00:29:06.632 --> 00:29:10.132
the worst I've heard about any of the women is oh you train at this place it

00:29:10.132 --> 00:29:12.812
just seems like school I don't know dude it seems like school the boys are causing

00:29:12.812 --> 00:29:16.052
all kinds of problems the girls are probably causing some problems too but these

00:29:16.052 --> 00:29:19.392
ladies look like they're just trying to win fights it's just orders of magnitude right

00:29:19.772 --> 00:29:23.695
oh yeah their problems are just different problems different problems,

00:29:24.972 --> 00:29:26.348
as far as you know.

00:29:27.852 --> 00:29:31.172
Crimes versus problems fair enough

00:29:31.172 --> 00:29:37.372
crimes versus problems fair enough but yeah so I mean just in terms of.

00:29:38.962 --> 00:29:43.682
It's just yeah I don't know the whole Star Wars series fucked it's fucked right

00:29:43.682 --> 00:29:44.592
now I think we're gonna keep.

00:29:45.892 --> 00:29:49.782
Our board game upside down they didn't think about us when they made these decisions

00:29:49.782 --> 00:29:53.649
and it's really disheartening and fucking up our shit yeah so I,

00:29:54.432 --> 00:29:57.482
don't know this is gonna be a short one because that's what we got that's what

00:29:57.482 --> 00:30:00.952
we got yeah well hopefully we get to see some Sith Lords competing against one

00:30:00.952 --> 00:30:05.590
another as you said UFC BJJ is doing what they're gonna do stealing some fighters There's,

00:30:06.604 --> 00:30:09.851
I mean, hey, you know, it's the UFC's game. That's what they do,

00:30:09.851 --> 00:30:11.331
man. They should start snatching them up.

00:30:12.171 --> 00:30:15.151
Back when that all started, that was one of the things we talked about,

00:30:15.151 --> 00:30:17.836
right? The division for ADCC still looks pretty dope, though.

00:30:18.080 --> 00:30:19.130
Yeah, I mean, it's still...

00:30:19.791 --> 00:30:22.101
It's still pretty top tier. You're going to have people, too,

00:30:22.101 --> 00:30:26.341
that, like, they kind of need to do this probably before UFC's,

00:30:26.341 --> 00:30:27.241
like, yo, come over here.

00:30:27.251 --> 00:30:31.251
Because, like, they still want the resumes. Like, there are certain guys...

00:30:31.251 --> 00:30:35.161
They want the big matchups. ...that are still, like, really good that just haven't

00:30:35.161 --> 00:30:42.071
had the match that makes them, you know, like, we want to put you on pay-per-view.

00:30:42.071 --> 00:30:44.684
I've seen them put some people on UFC BJ that just seem like,

00:30:45.322 --> 00:30:49.310
I don't even know, like friends of someone who's been on UFC BJ before.

00:30:49.525 --> 00:30:52.509
Also makes sense. But they have headliners that you were talking about. Yeah.

00:30:52.747 --> 00:30:55.034
The Tackett's aren't there. The Rutolos aren't there.

00:30:56.291 --> 00:30:59.251
But I guess if you want to come in as, like, a big name, you know,

00:30:59.251 --> 00:31:02.711
like if you want to be one of their, like, Headliner dudes.

00:31:02.811 --> 00:31:07.211
The headliner signed-up athletes are going to have to, they want me to do something.

00:31:07.351 --> 00:31:09.671
Nicky Rod's in the UFC BJJ, I believe. I think he's out of ADC.

00:31:10.331 --> 00:31:13.131
He's not competing in ADC. Yeah, he moved over to UFC. A while ago,

00:31:13.131 --> 00:31:18.231
huh? Yeah. Put some paper out of him. I think. I assume. Ethan, I think, is in UFC BJJ.

00:31:20.255 --> 00:31:23.781
I didn't see Nicky Ryan on there. Maybe he's not competing. He's always,

00:31:23.781 --> 00:31:26.131
he had like a million injuries. He had all his knees.

00:31:26.371 --> 00:31:28.660
His knees are destroyed. He's had everything.

00:31:30.181 --> 00:31:34.181
But he's... I mean, he, like, just started, like, really walking last year.

00:31:34.181 --> 00:31:36.051
Really? I mean, that's what... Was it that bad?

00:31:36.491 --> 00:31:39.141
Or maybe earlier. I don't remember. But, yeah, I think it was last...

00:31:39.171 --> 00:31:40.282
Like, he really wasn't...

00:31:40.775 --> 00:31:44.299
He, like, just got back to training last year, I think. Okay, got it. I think.

00:31:44.485 --> 00:31:46.671
So, he's probably just trying to rehab his shit, figure out what's going on

00:31:46.671 --> 00:31:50.471
with his business. If I remember correctly, I could be misremembering.

00:31:50.471 --> 00:31:52.751
But, yeah, I mean, also, he's probably trying to...

00:31:52.851 --> 00:31:57.291
Because he was... He took over B-team, so he's also probably trying to run business.

00:31:57.291 --> 00:32:00.791
To repair the business, trying to put it together. Or whatever. allegations?

00:32:01.528 --> 00:32:04.738
Yeah. The Jedi Council, was it the...

00:32:05.797 --> 00:32:07.942
Fucking old Dave Chappelle thing, the Jedi Council.

00:32:10.702 --> 00:32:17.542
Accusations. Yeah. The Jedi. He's trying to recover the PR. He's doing PR for

00:32:17.542 --> 00:32:19.362
the company. Man, maybe. Maybe.

00:32:19.922 --> 00:32:25.502
He's just trying to put out all the fires that all of his meatheads set. People are still going.

00:32:25.822 --> 00:32:28.542
They're going to be all right, dude. ABCC's all right, dude.

00:32:28.542 --> 00:32:32.092
The criminals are on the run, it looks like. Hopefully. Some of the bad boys

00:32:32.092 --> 00:32:34.628
who aren't criminals are just being bad boys and still fighting.

00:32:35.063 --> 00:32:39.272
Yeah and some of them who are criminals are too true that which ones are the

00:32:39.272 --> 00:32:42.906
criminals well I guess not full criminals,

00:32:43.862 --> 00:32:48.892
bad boys we got some we got some guys that have been you know J-Rod's in there

00:32:48.892 --> 00:32:50.342
he's been dinged he's a wild boy

00:32:50.342 --> 00:32:55.962
just nothing criminal fully criminal just nasty just being kind of nasty,

00:32:57.122 --> 00:33:02.382
morally questionable morally unsound sure and I'm sure that within the next,

00:33:02.991 --> 00:33:06.392
probably hell by the time this posts somebody's gonna do something else fucked

00:33:06.392 --> 00:33:10.091
up that's on that list yeah I mean I'm telling you man like this is like.

00:33:11.755 --> 00:33:16.582
When you take a step back and you're like it's like combat sports you're like oh yeah duh,

00:33:18.135 --> 00:33:22.272
types of dudes that get into it tend to be and then you put a bunch of them

00:33:22.272 --> 00:33:27.022
together they're gonna out bro out out psycho each other like yeah yeah it's

00:33:27.022 --> 00:33:29.662
kind of competitive male fucking environment it's gonna be a bunch of,

00:33:30.242 --> 00:33:34.022
wild shit yeah it's like a college football team that doesn't have anyone kind

00:33:34.022 --> 00:33:36.821
of keeping them out of trouble these guys have no one keeping them out of trouble

00:33:37.245 --> 00:33:40.722
except for themselves it's the it's the Miami there's not enough money there's

00:33:40.722 --> 00:33:44.559
not enough money for like lawyers and like PR teams and like handlers to get involved like dude.

00:33:45.697 --> 00:33:50.451
There's like an entire surrounding business model of people keeping,

00:33:51.235 --> 00:33:54.590
dudes who can generate a lot of money from doing dumb shit so they can make

00:33:54.590 --> 00:33:57.121
money well i mean not that much money it's,

00:33:57.563 --> 00:34:02.932
like an nfl team right like they'll have guys that they know that like if we leave him unsupervised

00:34:03.368 --> 00:34:07.380
we're fine this will be a problem right so they basically like you have a handler

00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:10.030
they build an infrastructure around those guys yeah you're not allowed to have

00:34:10.030 --> 00:34:13.690
your own hotel room yeah they have to keep a buffer around those guys this dude

00:34:13.690 --> 00:34:17.635
we need he's too good at football but he also so self-destructive

00:34:17.809 --> 00:34:21.480
same shit here but the problem is no one's gonna be a handler because,

00:34:22.200 --> 00:34:26.700
and also they're all that guy right like yeah yeah they're all just like similar

00:34:26.700 --> 00:34:29.780
type of person yeah they're all like oh no like that sounds fun let's go do

00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:35.282
it and like that guy might be not a problem but he's totally willing to instigate you know like so,

00:34:36.106 --> 00:34:39.460
you you run into that and yeah so it's the name of the game it's the name of

00:34:39.460 --> 00:34:41.284
the game uh yeah so that kind of,

00:34:42.138 --> 00:34:47.620
that's that that's that that's that so yeah so we're unclear on Star Wars we're

00:34:47.620 --> 00:34:50.607
figuring it out let us know what you guys think let us know if there's a different,

00:34:51.165 --> 00:34:54.444
we would love to hear your theories different doesn't have to be sci-fi,

00:34:55.315 --> 00:34:59.330
could be could be whatever hop on the website and just throw a theory I don't

00:34:59.330 --> 00:35:01.892
care what it is yeah throw a theory I just,

00:35:02.629 --> 00:35:08.430
help we're open for new paradigms yeah help us you know make sense of whatever

00:35:08.430 --> 00:35:10.360
the fucking world we're in whatever this is.

00:35:11.500 --> 00:35:16.480
Whatever the hell is going on yeah dude I get that help me make sense of the

00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:20.264
people involved in this silly ass world that we're in cause I don't,

00:35:21.354 --> 00:35:25.578
I don't get the thought process for some of these.

00:35:25.978 --> 00:35:29.658
I don't get the thought process of people here, dude. It's like, dude, what?

00:35:33.296 --> 00:35:37.138
So, yeah. I mean, hell, it's on the record that, you know, the whole.

00:35:37.138 --> 00:35:40.250
Well, no, Mikey. Mikey's a bad guy, too. Shit.

00:35:40.790 --> 00:35:42.578
I can't believe it is not thinking about that.

00:35:43.878 --> 00:35:45.643
I was just about to be like, you know, and I even talked. It was like,

00:35:45.748 --> 00:35:49.388
fuck, Mikey's also not a good. I think he was just. He's always.

00:35:49.388 --> 00:35:53.619
I think he's always been a bad guy, though. I think, okay. He's just better at hiding it. Okay.

00:35:54.432 --> 00:35:59.358
I think he was just getting a little taste of like, he's like, maybe I can be a bad boy.

00:35:59.798 --> 00:36:02.348
He was spending too much time with Craig Jones, the bad influence on him,

00:36:02.348 --> 00:36:03.808
dude. He was spending a lot of time with Craig Jones. He's like,

00:36:03.808 --> 00:36:05.598
this stuff works for Craig. What if I did it? He's like, no,

00:36:05.598 --> 00:36:06.318
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:06.538 --> 00:36:08.798
He's like, nevermind, nevermind. That's not me. That's not me.

00:36:08.798 --> 00:36:11.568
You're right, guys, I tried. I'm going to go back to making pasta jokes.

00:36:11.568 --> 00:36:13.580
That's right. Not my thing, not my brand.

00:36:14.347 --> 00:36:17.743
He's like, okay, that doesn't work for me. Craig corrupted. I'm too weird.

00:36:17.946 --> 00:36:20.478
Craig was like, drink that whiskey, dude. Wasn't that every day?

00:36:20.938 --> 00:36:24.678
Drink that vodka. She dropped shots of tequila on the, Mikey started,

00:36:24.678 --> 00:36:27.438
do a shot, do a shot, Mikey. Can I just take a sip? No.

00:36:27.958 --> 00:36:31.498
Next thing you know, like you said, like you pointed out, he has like the scumbag

00:36:31.498 --> 00:36:35.418
goggles on. He's like watching babes. Dude, like that was hilarious.

00:36:35.418 --> 00:36:37.282
Dude, that is fucking dude.

00:36:38.158 --> 00:36:42.443
Yeah, so, yeah. Is there anything you want to say about this?

00:36:43.459 --> 00:36:47.505
I just, dude, I just want, like, that was the one that I was just like,

00:36:48.323 --> 00:36:50.718
what the fuck are we doing? Yeah.

00:36:51.158 --> 00:36:52.758
What is this? What are we becoming?

00:36:53.578 --> 00:36:58.819
It made me question jujitsu. Like, I was like, oh shit. What is this?

00:36:59.109 --> 00:37:01.442
The entirety of jujitsu, like.

00:37:04.611 --> 00:37:09.564
Zeitgeist is like a teenager yeah it's like doesn't know what exactly what it's

00:37:09.564 --> 00:37:13.844
doing doesn't know exactly how to portray it so that's what it is like we use

00:37:13.844 --> 00:37:16.070
the high school analogy a lot but like,

00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:19.914
yeah maybe the whole we're just like one symbiotic,

00:37:20.783 --> 00:37:26.804
middle school hormonal being correct just like it doesn't know what it wants

00:37:26.804 --> 00:37:34.074
to be correct it can't figure it out yeah it's like maybe this is who i am maybe this is who i am yeah,

00:37:35.354 --> 00:37:41.635
yeah it's yeah it's kind of fucked uh hill thing we talked about like yeah yeah

00:37:41.902 --> 00:37:46.104
it's it doesn't know what's up yet nobody knows it doesn't know what it wants

00:37:46.104 --> 00:37:48.932
to be it's still in like the growing pains that you know what,

00:37:49.466 --> 00:37:53.154
if you want to liken it to other sports too we didn't get to see any of that

00:37:53.154 --> 00:37:54.383
because there wasn't like.

00:37:55.782 --> 00:37:59.514
Television and like social media in,

00:38:00.269 --> 00:38:04.254
the the like 24-hour news cycle like none of that was like a thing back when

00:38:04.254 --> 00:38:05.748
like football was started

00:38:06.073 --> 00:38:09.584
oh basketball was started so like i imagine it was exactly the same thing with

00:38:09.584 --> 00:38:13.014
all these like mainstream sports well like football started just missed it didn't

00:38:13.014 --> 00:38:15.904
like yale invent football or like that like the first game was like yale and

00:38:15.904 --> 00:38:20.424
harvard like 100 years ago or something it all had to get like newspapered right like yeah

00:38:20.844 --> 00:38:24.404
there was no like immediate response and so like there was time i think those

00:38:24.404 --> 00:38:29.044
yale like rich fuckers were up to some crazy shit you know they were but we just didn't get to see it,

00:38:29.504 --> 00:38:32.604
dude they were able to cover shit up back well they had the secret society that's

00:38:32.604 --> 00:38:34.924
right dude yeah you think skull and bones gonna let them like,

00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.144
nah man they're up to some creep shit too,

00:38:37.704 --> 00:38:43.234
and just the they were still 19 22 year old bros back then well yeah and then

00:38:43.234 --> 00:38:45.407
all that like all that like.

00:38:46.846 --> 00:38:53.005
Aspect of like no like we just won't be obvious about our shit fuckery,

00:38:53.493 --> 00:38:57.412
much easier to hide in like the 30s or 20s yeah and now everyone's like no we're

00:38:57.412 --> 00:39:00.892
gonna tell the world about all the bad things we're doing you know we're gonna

00:39:00.892 --> 00:39:03.542
brag about it online we're gonna brag about what was that bad i didn't know

00:39:03.542 --> 00:39:07.511
any better i better take it down yeah and so maybe that's,

00:39:08.091 --> 00:39:12.952
maybe that's what it is maybe it took us 40 minutes to get there dude it's like

00:39:12.952 --> 00:39:16.172
it's like giving like a nine-year-old a gun, dude. Yeah.

00:39:17.152 --> 00:39:20.692
Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, maybe that's all it is. It's just like,

00:39:20.692 --> 00:39:29.053
it's more obvious and really this is just what sports are. It's just sports. And it's fucked up.

00:39:29.452 --> 00:39:32.552
But, and it shouldn't, it would be great if it wasn't that way.

00:39:32.552 --> 00:39:35.745
That's life, brother. But maybe it's just like the fact that.

00:39:37.033 --> 00:39:41.193
This phase was missed in the other sports in terms of like the ability to like

00:39:41.193 --> 00:39:45.313
see and cover it to the extent at which things are seen and covered today. Yeah.

00:39:46.038 --> 00:39:51.113
And, uh, doesn't make it right. Just, maybe it's just helping me understand

00:39:51.113 --> 00:39:51.993
what's happening better. Yeah.

00:39:52.778 --> 00:39:55.901
You're just listening to us try to figure out what the fuck is going on.

00:39:56.818 --> 00:40:01.478
So. Don't try to figure it out. Just be like, what? Just, what? Yeah. Dude.

00:40:01.861 --> 00:40:05.613
Yeah, just don't do weird shit yourself. Yeah, I mean, that's really all I'm

00:40:05.613 --> 00:40:06.573
trying to do. That's what I'm going to stick to.

00:40:06.733 --> 00:40:10.053
I'm just trying to be a good boy. Yeah. I'm going to just stick to my lane and,

00:40:10.551 --> 00:40:13.087
do my thing. Yeah. Do jujitsu.

00:40:13.285 --> 00:40:16.281
I'm just going to try to, I just want to train fucking jujitsu.

00:40:17.093 --> 00:40:21.293
Yeah, I'm going to train fucking jujitsu. So I'm just going to do that and just

00:40:21.293 --> 00:40:24.823
be confused about how everybody else is. Leave that wild shit to those wild

00:40:24.823 --> 00:40:26.973
boys, man. Why are you wild boys so wild?

00:40:27.333 --> 00:40:30.413
That's what they're going to do, man. Why can't they just be like Steve-O and,

00:40:30.973 --> 00:40:34.845
Chris Pontius and just like. Sporking the frog, dude. This is what the nature.

00:40:35.019 --> 00:40:39.663
Just go like play around in nature like the real wild boys.

00:40:40.999 --> 00:40:46.393
I bet they did some fucking batshit crazy shit too we know that they did because

00:40:46.393 --> 00:40:52.893
Steve-O's told us at least he did he's told us about his fucked up shit you know like,

00:40:53.827 --> 00:41:00.333
just show us you having fun in nature just show us that you have fun just do that and then,

00:41:01.598 --> 00:41:07.873
don't do the fucked up shit I don't know yeah or hide it better I know that yeah yeah uh I mean.

00:41:09.836 --> 00:41:14.693
Hide it better dude no yes I don't know I don't know I don't know how I feel

00:41:14.693 --> 00:41:19.826
about that they're not gonna stop doing it yeah I don't know I could be wrong,

00:41:20.900 --> 00:41:26.333
just yeah disappear into obscurity I guess that's that is the right like I don't

00:41:26.333 --> 00:41:29.533
know um slink into the background yeah yeah,

00:41:31.001 --> 00:41:35.939
Well, that was Fire Street Coffee. What? All right. Well, yeah,

00:41:35.939 --> 00:41:38.309
so jiu-jitsu's fucked up, and.

00:41:40.399 --> 00:41:45.349
We broke jiu-jitsu, guys. Keep training and be a good boy.

00:41:46.189 --> 00:41:50.569
That's all we have for you. And girls, also be good. Just be good people.

00:41:50.609 --> 00:41:53.969
Yeah. And train jiu-jitsu, and just do that.

00:41:54.669 --> 00:41:57.129
Do that and be a normal human being. Just keep training. Try to get better.

00:41:57.129 --> 00:41:59.679
It's already difficult or not. You need to make your life more difficult with

00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.671
like publicly shameful activity.

00:42:02.805 --> 00:42:05.429
Yeah, just to the best of your ability. Be a normal human being,

00:42:05.429 --> 00:42:12.089
train jiu-jitsu, go about your normal daily life and don't try to be Craig Jones,

00:42:12.089 --> 00:42:15.553
Gordon Ryan, anyone in B-team. Just be you.

00:42:16.669 --> 00:42:20.199
Don't try to, yeah, just do you, bro. You do you. If you break laws and you

00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.884
do sleazy shit, like, don't do that. Stay golden, Ponyboy. Don't do that.

00:42:23.122 --> 00:42:25.039
Stay golden, Ponyboy. What are we talking about before the show though?

00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.369
We're like, what are we giving you life advice now?

00:42:27.389 --> 00:42:31.309
Yeah, yeah. talk about guard passes just train jujitsu,

00:42:32.789 --> 00:42:37.205
show up to class clean your geese,

00:42:37.949 --> 00:42:41.109
trim your nails we're not trying to give you life advice but some of these things

00:42:41.109 --> 00:42:44.979
seem like no brainers I'm going to give you life advice specifically related

00:42:44.979 --> 00:42:50.949
to jujitsu which is be hygienic go to bed on time eat your vegetables lift weights,

00:42:51.915 --> 00:42:57.919
run sometimes hear your local and state laws go the speed limit on your way

00:42:57.919 --> 00:43:03.329
to practice yeah so like leave early enough to make it well just leave early enough to make it.

00:43:05.016 --> 00:43:09.589
Set your set the routine all the you know I'll give you advice about how to

00:43:09.589 --> 00:43:12.318
make it to jiu-jitsu class and like don't be gross yeah,

00:43:13.369 --> 00:43:17.419
so yeah do that and that was fighters drinking coffee those are all those last

00:43:17.419 --> 00:43:22.570
few messages are fighters drinking coffee approved behavior yeah 45 seconds

00:43:22.802 --> 00:43:25.287
like follow subscribe review share with your friends,

00:43:25.954 --> 00:43:29.385
yeah yeah do that it's kind of it do that bye it was.