When You Are Alone on the Mat: Conquering Competition Nerves (Episode 72)

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee. We are your hosts,

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Scott Dance and Michael Sutherland.

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And with a combined 40 years of grappling experience, we are here to try to

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make your jujitsu training a little bit smoother.

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And I guess in today it'll be your competition experience a little bit smoother as well.

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I recently got back from the American Nationals, which will be well separated

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by the time you guys are hearing this but everything still stands um,

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it was my first at least recently my first competition where i was flying solo,

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and especially not near my not near home um but first competition flying solo in a long time,

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and uh.

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My nerves were insane, at least, well, leading up day of, it was a rollercoaster ride.

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Um, and it's been a while since it's been that like intense.

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Uh, you know, I've been competing a lot for a long period of time and especially,

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over the past year, I've been competing very frequently.

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So uh it was i don't know this is weirdly enough i kind of liked it but you

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know it was it was definitely um having to be alone in my own head for,

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a extended period of time was a new experience uh normally like framing this

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normally i have like other people are competing,

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or you know there's other people to kind of distract you from the nerves and

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i know scott you have done a lot of solo missions,

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so you know you're definitely have,

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some experience with that specifically uh but you know i i normally am able

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to distract myself with other people and other things because,

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i'm not alone normally when i compete uh so that was that was a new experience

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for me but i i thought this could be,

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beneficial because um a lot of people when they compete for the first time that's

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usually that's that's normally the biggest thing that's usually what gets in

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your way the most are those nerves.

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Um i know we've talked about giving yourself the space to like hey dude you don't you,

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that you're if this is your first time competing you don't have the right to

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have expectations but you know it's easier said than done it is um but yeah

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i thought we get into like nerves and,

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kind of how,

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you're, you can almost be your biggest enemy and your.

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Yeah. Let's go. Um, let's go.

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Yeah. So for me, what, what I ran into is like that, like almost doom spiral

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of like, what's going to happen? What am I going to do?

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Like I'm going to do, they're going to do this. I'm going to do this.

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And maybe they do this and I do that. And like, you know, you almost get in

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that, like, which normally not a problem.

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This also my first like big comp at Brown. So that might've also played into it, but, um.

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But yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a, uh, it's, it's like the first, um,

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fight you have to have is with these challenging intrusive thoughts that,

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uh, present themselves when you're going to go do something that you biologically,

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your central nervous system is telling you is important um which probably i

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i mean certainly is a turnoff for a lot of people when it comes to the subject

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of competitions i think that's what,

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blocks a lot of people from wanting to go and do it as it is don't want to deal

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with that um that thought cycle and um so It's the biggest challenge.

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I think that is the real challenge of competition is.

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Overcoming or learning to live with, perhaps, the mental battles that you have

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to face as you're doing this. So it's normal.

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Everyone does it. Everyone deals with it who goes out and competes,

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probably in any sport for that matter.

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But most it's accentuated in this world because you're doing a one on one sport,

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it's a combat sport so you have the whole.

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The whole ego quest of like how good how tough am I in a martial art,

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you're being very vulnerable going out and kind of expressing that individually

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in front of a bunch of people and like you know a major tournament kind of feels

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like the same thing but multiple times,

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multiplied a couple times. So,

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All normal. We talked about it with one of your training partners this morning.

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Who's going to go out and do his first jiu-jitsu tournament soon.

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And he was like, yeah, man, I'm nervous.

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Which is, you know, me and John gave him, I hope, a couple good perspectives

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from guys, a couple, well, multiple times more experience in this world.

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So hopefully there was some value that he got from hearing that.

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And it was a cool and good teammate thing for him to be honest about that too

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because everyone deals with it.

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And it is certainly the most, I think, challenging part.

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Like the jiu-jitsu part becomes easier the more folks get comfortable with navigating

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these mental battles. So it's part of the game, man.

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When you compete, it's the biggest part of the game. Yeah. In my opinion.

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I think so. I mean, and I think it's also very important because a big thing

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about competing is actually, I mean, just jujitsu in general, right, is,

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getting better and kind of improving upon,

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past you and beating past you.

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And so that little mental struggle is almost like a way for you to break that

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down and beat that person, become that new version of yourself,

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that better version of yourself.

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That really is the fight. That really is the fight game. You're right. You said it well.

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Which is choosing to compete and continuing to compete really becomes more about

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that than anything else.

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And I say that because, I suppose, ultimately the more comfortable you get with

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that quest of calming your mind and allowing yourself to,

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in a public setting, go out and perform the best version of your jiu-jitsu,

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because what I find for myself, when,

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the mental struggles become greater and greater. We tend to like hold ourselves

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back a little bit or we just don't perform our best.

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We know we can do a little bit better if we were in a better head space for our competition.

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So it's like a way of confronting yourself with like these,

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limitation struggles you have mentally that will, if you allow it,

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block you from going out than expressing the physical aspect,

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the martial arts aspect that you know you're capable of.

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And so that is the struggle. That's kind of like, you know, I think maybe as

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coaches we need to do a better job of explaining that to people and preparing them for it.

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And to the best of our ability, like what we were doing this morning with your

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teammate Tiny, who isn't Tiny, ha ha, how about that?

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Most people name Tiny aren't, right? Correct, yeah, that's the fun part of it. That is what's fun.

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But, you know, doing your best to say, hey, here's some tips and tricks to kind

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of like help fast track you through some of these mental challenges,

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emotional challenges, if you're going to call it that, that all of us,

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quite frankly, face to help you overcome it more quickly.

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Because we all want to see you go out and put forth all the skills and hard

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work and the things that you've done in the training room when you get into the sport.

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So if you and you know you'll see some people like i think everyone always admires

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like watching like a uh a strong athlete strong mental athlete who can handle

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these things the mental rigors,

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and be able to go and perform really well and some people have that naturally

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some people i would say most people just have to deal with it in some capacity

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like everyone has differing um.

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I'll call it discipline i don't know what else to call it like mental discipline,

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i suppose there's like a discipline kind of mixed with like humility involved

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too like it's a lot of little,

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and i say little but like important like emotional um,

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habits that like you said like humility discipline strength call it what you

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want it's like all of these different things balanced and it's unique to that

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individual too which is what's kind of cool about it,

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is watching different people struggle to,

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uh to manage these things and find ways to like overcome it um or if they don't

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overcome it like kind of like,

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learn from it and and and take the lesson like no don't beat themselves up about

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it so they can find a productive like you said ultimately it's just meant to

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help you like get a little bit better at really at that quest,

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so that whatever that however you want to describe that barrier well it becomes

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less of a barrier for you and especially like if you're not getting paid or

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recognized based on the outcome like,

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based on the outcome of that like obviously the outcome is important but ultimately

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the outcome is more important to you than anybody else always going to be and it should be that way,

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um and like if you're not getting paid regard you know if you're not getting

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paid based on how that outcome is.

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You gotta find value you need yeah you need to reframe that value like it's not about well if i don't,

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well if i what happens if i don't win gold well if you don't win gold then like

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life will go on you're fine did you did you get better did you like you have

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to do it like you said because to your point like you're not getting paid to

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do it like so as you said like,

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you better find some way to extract value from it or you won't do it again which

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is still okay but um well and it's gonna make the experience better if you take the weight,

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away from results from the results and the medals right like if if the,

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and i mean i talked about this i i i talked about this on like one of my,

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if how you got like i don't know,

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to frame it like in a way that like hey dude.

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If you look at it as like, oh, well, I lost and I got second place.

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Well, that's a whole, and so like this medal is worthless. No,

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dude, it's, it's not like, that's not how that, like, I, I mean,

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I have, I didn't, I lost a shit ton. I still have medals on this wall, right?

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Each one of these reminds me of like what, you know, reminds me of a result

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and actions and it's part of the progress, part of the journey.

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And it keeps you hungry to remember that you aren't the best.

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If you need to be willing, you have to have the humility to be able to face

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those losses and learn from them still and not be tied up on a result in all

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of that. And I think that helps.

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I try to remind myself of that before every match. And it actually helps bring

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me into the match. We've talked about those switches, like flipping switches

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before, and those triggers to help get you in the mindset.

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Um and this helped me a lot with my nerves in vegas like.

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I turned off mode i was like hey dude just tell me what to do so i have like that,

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but i was like hey give me the warm-up and then like before every match so i

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get warmed up and like a part of the thing i do is,

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i it's not always out wow, this is sometimes just me in my own head.

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But I'll remind myself like, hey, dude, one, have like a little pep talk with myself.

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The only person that cares about this result is you. The only,

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you know, nobody, nobody can do this for you.

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The result is going to be a result. Like it, you take everything away.

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You take all the power away from the people around you that they might not even have, right?

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Like that perceived like power to shift outcomes from the outside,

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stuff that shit inside internalize it but remind yourself that like hey you

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just go out and you do your thing and the result will be the result like you know.

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You can only do what you can do you can control what you can control the other

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person on the other side is going to do what they're going to do and at the

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end of the day someone wins someone has to win this it's a it's just how it is,

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and as long as you go out there you play your game you do your job maybe it's

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you maybe it's not but you should be able to still feel good about that because

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you should at least look better than you did the match before and so taking that weight off,

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helps help the shit ton i mean like i i was,

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super nervous sitting in my hotel room watching the bear um probably didn't

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help it's pretty fucking hectic show,

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uh but like you know i'm just like i have nothing else to do i'm just trying

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to keep the energy you know got a couple got to walk in in the morning and just

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try to keep the energy low and not really burn out get just kind of exist the

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weight off like we've talked about and,

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you know just like it's very like especially in a quiet little room very easy

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to just start spiraling and just have to remind yourself of these things right

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like remind yourself why you're doing it and that,

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it's about it is about you it's nobody else really is do we should have john

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come back in and talk about this one of these days but because you know you

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just have so much interesting stuff to share and proper knowledge.

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What I like about those individual experiences is that for the educational aspect

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associated with everything we're talking about.

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Why it's harder for sure, but I think there's value in you having to just sit

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there and kind of stew in it because...

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And you'll, it will, when you have other people around, it is a nice kind of

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distraction to not be stormed with these thoughts with nothing in the way.

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And when you're talking to other people, like, you can kind of,

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like, focus on other people and ask them about how they're doing and stuff like

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that, which is great. Like, there's, and ultimately, what I would say to anyone

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listening, like, you don't have to go and do this on your own.

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If that's not how you are successful, like, write that down.

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You know like there's nothing wrong with saying like nope I do better in a team

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environment would love to have a team around me that's that's fine um now what

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I would just to go back to the individual aspect like the solo mission version

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of this is that I find it to be a,

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heavy dose you know this you just talked about it of that kind of like one-on-one,

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struggle with the intrusive thoughts where what I like about it is it just kind

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of like it allows you to like have that battle yeah and just like face it completely um because i think.

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It can doing that with like just this is nothing it's just you and the thoughts

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and you're like fuck this is really uncomfortable,

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good that's good that's like a jocko good good that is a jocko good because

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then you get to sit there and and look at it and be like all right cool man

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like it's never gonna be more uncomfortable than this and then you,

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like what we talked about with tiny where it's like you just like that's that's

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that big deal yeah you get comfortable with it um and that's ultimately and

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maybe comfortable isn't the right word but like if you get to where you just

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like accept it you're like well all right i'm uncomfortable,

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and then you're just like there it is all of a sudden maybe even laugh for a

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second like shit okay great i'm uncomfortable and then the sooner it's like

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in my in my opinion like trying to avoid it,

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and this is a perhaps just my thought process on it, like trying to avoid it. I find...

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It gives the uncomfortable thoughts more power and authority,

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whereas just like embracing it and be like, yeah, you did it.

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You won thoughts. And then all of a sudden the thoughts are like,

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it's just kind of they weaken in their power.

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They're like, it's like if you personify into some little devil,

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some little demonic voice in your head and you're like, there you go.

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You got it. Then like all of a sudden it's like, ah, this isn't fun anymore.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You're like, got cool.

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You got it, but I'm still going to do it. like we're still gonna go compete

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and then to your point earlier like i think you you went through the right like

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mental cycle of being like yo what you know what,

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and you know i posted this on instagram the other day about like i in my opinion

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like my my and i'd be curious to hear your response to i think you talked about

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it but let's let me yeah see if we can expand on it which was that like,

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when i posted that thought i'd written uh.

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I had written that out uh on like a one and a half page document,

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just as like a way to get, you know, I like to write stuff down as a way to

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get out of my mind and onto paper.

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And I probably sent it to you a while back too. I sent it to a few people just

00:18:23.362 --> 00:18:29.672
as like, Hey, like this, this little explanation of things makes sense to me.

00:18:29.672 --> 00:18:32.852
Let me, let's toss it to a few other folks and see if it makes sense to them too.

00:18:32.852 --> 00:18:35.102
And I think a few folks have given me some positive feedback on it.

00:18:35.102 --> 00:18:39.082
So I turned it into a post, but one of the, one of the slides on that post was

00:18:39.082 --> 00:18:43.982
like, I think one of the common thought patterns that people face I certainly

00:18:43.982 --> 00:18:47.397
face is like when you think about all the things you have to do all at one time.

00:18:47.855 --> 00:18:50.938
So I guess I called it like trying to fight the entire match in your head all at once.

00:18:52.250 --> 00:18:55.122
But you had mentioned something a second ago, which I think aligns with that,

00:18:55.122 --> 00:18:59.326
which was simply like, all right, like, what can I control? What can I not control? I'm like...

00:19:00.673 --> 00:19:06.458
Getting to like putting yourself in the headspace to perform um simplifying

00:19:06.458 --> 00:19:09.008
all of that down to like you know what the very first thing the next thing i

00:19:09.008 --> 00:19:11.658
need to do is exist this weight off and like you're doing that so you're like

00:19:11.658 --> 00:19:12.590
all right check like i'm i'm,

00:19:13.775 --> 00:19:17.808
i'm a big fan of like that and i talked about this with on the podcast and like

00:19:17.808 --> 00:19:20.996
with you and kate and andrea around chicago was,

00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.858
i was just trying to think about the next little thing the next objective that's

00:19:24.858 --> 00:19:27.308
in front of me like doing a good job at that because i think there's value in

00:19:27.308 --> 00:19:32.418
like getting the many victories that leads and like successfully performing

00:19:32.418 --> 00:19:34.973
the small acts that compounds into the larger picture,

00:19:35.600 --> 00:19:37.017
um the larger uh.

00:19:40.197 --> 00:19:44.475
Symphony of actions that you need to take to win.

00:19:44.806 --> 00:19:48.832
And the more you know about the process and having that process,

00:19:48.832 --> 00:19:54.372
having a game plan, I think aligns with this, which ultimately when it comes

00:19:54.372 --> 00:19:57.391
down to starting off the match, it's like, well, what's the first thing you're going to do?

00:19:58.506 --> 00:20:01.867
If you're going to concentrate on anything or think about anything, just think about that.

00:20:02.441 --> 00:20:06.081
If it's a hand fight, if it's a takedown, if it's diving in for the takedown on a guard puller.

00:20:06.546 --> 00:20:10.282
Um the key in on that one that's the first thing you're going to do and just

00:20:10.282 --> 00:20:14.462
kind of like break it down into the actions you want to perform well and like

00:20:14.462 --> 00:20:18.347
if you can shift over to that from all this noise into like all right well like,

00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:23.272
inevitably like i'm gonna make weight i'm gonna go to the bullpen i'm gonna

00:20:23.272 --> 00:20:26.166
stand on the scale the guy's gonna approve me i'm going to do that,

00:20:27.032 --> 00:20:30.822
like i'm not gonna miss weight so let's let's behave appropriately right now

00:20:30.822 --> 00:20:34.222
to make sure that that takes place i'll get my good warm-up in that's the next

00:20:34.222 --> 00:20:37.582
thing i'll go out there but like once the other dude's out there after a high

00:20:37.582 --> 00:20:41.003
five and knuckles him, it's going to be a hand fight. So can I do that well?

00:20:41.692 --> 00:20:44.682
And then follow, and you know, this obviously comes with experience and like

00:20:44.682 --> 00:20:48.601
having like a pretty rock solid game plan from having done this enough times.

00:20:48.937 --> 00:20:51.372
Because these are the things that you talked, you mentioned earlier,

00:20:51.372 --> 00:20:54.862
where it's like we take notes afterwards and we kind of like try to make this

00:20:54.862 --> 00:20:58.161
stuff a bit more analytical insofar as like, what did we, did we,

00:20:58.342 --> 00:20:59.910
where did we not perform?

00:21:00.513 --> 00:21:03.502
Where did we not have a plan or where did we have a plan that just didn't work?

00:21:03.502 --> 00:21:07.752
But you can write these things down and take notes on them. We discussed your

00:21:07.752 --> 00:21:09.633
match after your match and said, what do we want to do?

00:21:10.782 --> 00:21:14.668
Practice-wise, to prepare to handle a situation a little bit better.

00:21:14.668 --> 00:21:18.451
Like, well, we have those notes. So that gives you power over these complicated,

00:21:18.899 --> 00:21:21.568
situations to say, all right, well, dude, that's one thing.

00:21:21.568 --> 00:21:25.628
And if I can do that one thing really well, I know there will always be another

00:21:25.628 --> 00:21:32.759
challenge, but this is becoming the person who is capable of identifying,

00:21:33.629 --> 00:21:36.178
call it a weakness, call it an area for improvement or just something you want

00:21:36.178 --> 00:21:38.028
to work on, but identifying that and then doing the work.

00:21:38.028 --> 00:21:42.638
Like, these are the types of those patterns, those actions that individuals,

00:21:42.638 --> 00:21:45.083
that's what makes you into that's going to turn you into a winner.

00:21:46.847 --> 00:21:50.148
Because I've said this, which is like the guy who actually Dave Porter said

00:21:50.148 --> 00:21:52.748
this to the other day, which I the other day, a couple of months ago,

00:21:52.748 --> 00:21:56.118
which I was like, dude, that resonates because it's like the guy who's like

00:21:56.304 --> 00:21:58.648
won't. If you if you're not if you're not going to quit and you're going to

00:21:58.648 --> 00:22:01.273
come back and you keep doing the improvements, how can you not get better?

00:22:01.592 --> 00:22:04.338
You're only going to get better because it's like you're just you're a relentless,

00:22:04.338 --> 00:22:07.238
unstoppable force at that point. You're just the guy who's always like made

00:22:07.238 --> 00:22:08.924
a mistake, wrote it down, worked on it again.

00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:11.995
Guess what, worked in the next tournament, did a little bit better.

00:22:13.033 --> 00:22:16.948
Won or lost but like made a little different of a mistake but i called a mistake

00:22:16.948 --> 00:22:19.508
or you know just an area for improvement but because maybe you won but you're

00:22:19.508 --> 00:22:21.549
like still taking notes you're still running,

00:22:22.234 --> 00:22:25.368
that's how these guys that's how the highest performers continue to continue

00:22:25.368 --> 00:22:28.448
to perform at a high level which is even when they win they're like there's

00:22:28.448 --> 00:22:30.870
identifying areas that like cool like,

00:22:31.706 --> 00:22:35.078
to get to that point where you win all the time like you've gotten really good

00:22:35.078 --> 00:22:39.067
at just like identifying what you need to do and and executing at that which

00:22:39.212 --> 00:22:42.939
talks shows you these these folks have good habits,

00:22:43.421 --> 00:22:46.078
so like this is kind of like developing the habits and not letting like mental

00:22:46.078 --> 00:22:51.038
barriers block you from continuing to make good habits yeah you have to be your

00:22:51.438 --> 00:22:53.974
you have to you have to be your biggest critic um,

00:22:54.677 --> 00:22:59.599
because really your your coach's initial job win or lose should be to you.

00:23:00.441 --> 00:23:06.558
Know keep you up right like if they're if they they're immediately if someone's coming in,

00:23:07.038 --> 00:23:10.958
that if someone else is coming in immediately hammering hammering you down with

00:23:10.958 --> 00:23:13.380
like what you did wrong and like all of that like

00:23:13.618 --> 00:23:16.408
yeah they can give you like little like hey like this is what we need to work

00:23:16.408 --> 00:23:19.838
on next that's fine but if they're like oh man like that was awful i'm disappointed

00:23:19.838 --> 00:23:22.338
yeah like that's not productive but like you

00:23:22.638 --> 00:23:25.718
maybe there's a rare human out there who responds to that but but nonetheless

00:23:25.718 --> 00:23:28.704
i'm with you 100 you are allowed to

00:23:29.116 --> 00:23:32.692
you're allowed to still be proud of what you did and happy with,

00:23:33.470 --> 00:23:35.177
whatever outcome or,

00:23:35.867 --> 00:23:40.108
you know, performance and all that, but you should also still be your biggest critic.

00:23:40.108 --> 00:23:47.398
You should be able to win or lose, like you said, find the things that were not executed well.

00:23:47.398 --> 00:23:49.668
That's the humility aspect you talked about earlier. It's like you just have

00:23:49.668 --> 00:23:57.212
to be self-aware enough to know that like win or lose, we'll have to continue to do this work.

00:23:57.491 --> 00:24:00.168
And like to your point earlier or what the coach's job is, I think the coach's

00:24:00.168 --> 00:24:05.358
job is to keep you doing it. Yeah. And so like you said, usually that means keep the person up.

00:24:06.146 --> 00:24:07.772
Motivate them to continue to train.

00:24:09.003 --> 00:24:12.155
Just keep them on the mat. Yeah. You know, like it's, it's, um,

00:24:12.753 --> 00:24:19.296
it's that, keep that person on that healthy, constructive, positive pathway that they've chosen.

00:24:19.806 --> 00:24:24.200
Um, so they'll continue doing this work. Um, that's the coach's job.

00:24:24.885 --> 00:24:29.616
And, but to your point, like you individually, but also with your,

00:24:29.616 --> 00:24:32.056
with your coach, whether they're giving you that like immediate feedback of

00:24:32.056 --> 00:24:33.906
like, I think I kind of hit you with immediate feedback with like,

00:24:33.906 --> 00:24:35.076
dude, let's do this. Let's do this.

00:24:35.206 --> 00:24:38.256
Well you know that i you also know that i usually am

00:24:38.256 --> 00:24:42.216
ready for it that's good yeah yeah i'm able to brush off those things very quickly

00:24:42.216 --> 00:24:46.076
you are you are which is impressive we know each other enough we do so and and

00:24:46.076 --> 00:24:48.556
i also just kind of maybe it's like selfishly i was like dude while it's top

00:24:48.556 --> 00:24:51.046
of my mind i just want to write it down yeah i want to get it out of my head

00:24:51.046 --> 00:24:55.262
before i forget not forget but like while it's still relevant i want to say hey let's make this list,

00:24:55.709 --> 00:24:58.486
because like i know you're going to compete again soon i also know like you're

00:24:58.486 --> 00:25:01.026
not gonna i couldn't talk you out of being on the mat so i'm like,

00:25:01.766 --> 00:25:04.756
not that i would but you get what i'm saying i'm like good like like you and

00:25:04.756 --> 00:25:08.826
i know you know you can't discourage me correct no i know that i'm and i knew

00:25:08.826 --> 00:25:10.367
that i wouldn't even by doing what i did,

00:25:10.831 --> 00:25:13.946
but um i also know you have more action coming up so i'm like dude let's write

00:25:13.946 --> 00:25:19.684
this down now let's do this we're gonna i think i did like the construct the the um,

00:25:20.253 --> 00:25:24.566
push the push feedback call like the here are the things we got to work on and

00:25:24.566 --> 00:25:27.206
then i hit you with the here are the things that worked really well too yeah

00:25:27.206 --> 00:25:29.882
um we were gonna do both but um.

00:25:31.598 --> 00:25:36.391
I wanted to get that list into your head for both of us, into both of our heads.

00:25:36.391 --> 00:25:39.499
Like, let's write this down now. We'll face more opponents like this.

00:25:39.992 --> 00:25:43.861
We're going to, like, this is good. Like, let's get it out of it.

00:25:44.526 --> 00:25:49.611
Let's, like, express it in writing to hold ourselves accountable to say,

00:25:49.611 --> 00:25:53.628
all right, cool. Like, you know what? This is, there's a simplicity to it.

00:25:53.762 --> 00:25:55.841
Like, I watched it. You watched it. We rewatched it. We're like,

00:25:55.841 --> 00:25:58.168
bet. Like, this is what we need to do. Cool. Write it down.

00:25:59.189 --> 00:26:03.321
Easy. I mean, it's gonna be work, but it's easy. But it's like, hey, we do this,

00:26:05.749 --> 00:26:11.745
you're gonna work exactly on what is required to improve in some of these scenarios. So that's why.

00:26:12.349 --> 00:26:17.581
Well, I actually kinda like it, the way through text like that too,

00:26:17.581 --> 00:26:24.138
was, and we also hopped on the phone too, but through text it also was still pretty.

00:26:25.422 --> 00:26:29.781
It was kind of good, like, immediately, right? Because we can text about it.

00:26:30.071 --> 00:26:32.946
Because we called, did we talk about the next morning, right? The next morning.

00:26:33.906 --> 00:26:37.006
But, like, you texted me some of the stuff, and, like, we were texting back

00:26:37.006 --> 00:26:39.906
and forth, and, like, it's almost good because a lot of the time,

00:26:40.326 --> 00:26:43.475
right afterwards, you can't really digest.

00:26:44.143 --> 00:26:48.086
Right, right? Like, unless in the case of, like, Chicago, we're like,

00:26:48.086 --> 00:26:51.406
hey, like, this is immediate. Like, do it right away. We were face-to-face,

00:26:51.406 --> 00:26:54.346
and you had another match. Yeah. So that made that exercise.

00:26:54.386 --> 00:26:57.676
That was almost like corner talk, right? This is a little bit different.

00:26:57.676 --> 00:27:03.090
But like when it's over and like it's done and that's like the end of the day,

00:27:03.305 --> 00:27:08.570
it's really hard to digest like a verbal conversation about a match.

00:27:09.126 --> 00:27:15.676
True. Because you're running through everything. Like all of the feelings and

00:27:15.676 --> 00:27:17.951
thoughts are rushing back into your head too.

00:27:18.211 --> 00:27:23.076
Because, you know, you shut all that down when you go out there.

00:27:23.076 --> 00:27:25.906
At least I do. i try to turn my brain off like almost completely because my

00:27:25.906 --> 00:27:31.276
brain is active too active if i'll be thinking if i think too much i will lose

00:27:31.276 --> 00:27:32.986
regardless of everything else um.

00:27:33.786 --> 00:27:38.966
But so like you know you kind of like are opening the floodgates again like

00:27:38.966 --> 00:27:42.244
you start thinking about it you start you're thinking about the match you're thinking about,

00:27:42.795 --> 00:27:46.096
all the other shit you were thinking about all day and you're like everything

00:27:46.096 --> 00:27:51.506
like starts coming back in and it's hard to like listen to the feedback from

00:27:51.506 --> 00:27:56.152
outside because you're you're giving yourself that feedback right now in your own head and like,

00:27:56.803 --> 00:27:59.287
it's just like yeah uh-huh okay,

00:28:00.046 --> 00:28:02.146
then at the end of you're like oh i didn't really hear it i heard none of that

00:28:02.466 --> 00:28:07.315
yeah yeah you know if like once you once you turn flip the switch back off it's hard um

00:28:07.686 --> 00:28:11.166
so writing it down like having value like having it in that like having it in

00:28:11.166 --> 00:28:16.766
like a text message or something where like afterwards you're like all right i'm everything's it's,

00:28:17.508 --> 00:28:19.496
written down noise is settled down.

00:28:19.496 --> 00:28:25.495
I can read this again and like digest it again and like get the full, um.

00:28:26.842 --> 00:28:32.362
Full value of it. But yeah, I mean, I think that was actually super helpful.

00:28:33.402 --> 00:28:40.222
But kind of rolling back a little bit to what you were talking about earlier

00:28:40.222 --> 00:28:43.302
about addressing the first thing.

00:28:44.715 --> 00:28:49.502
That's also super helpful. And on both sides of it, right?

00:28:51.077 --> 00:28:55.502
Like, how do we, if you try to address the entire match all at once,

00:28:55.502 --> 00:29:00.552
either leading up to or afterwards, it becomes this, like, daunting task.

00:29:00.552 --> 00:29:04.643
It's too much, but if you just look at the next thing, then the next thing,

00:29:04.864 --> 00:29:11.072
the next thing, and, like, really chop it up, it helps, especially during the match.

00:29:11.072 --> 00:29:16.142
Like if if you're thinking about if you're sitting in someone's guard and you're

00:29:16.142 --> 00:29:18.410
thinking about how am i going to take their back,

00:29:19.450 --> 00:29:23.049
there's a whole bunch of other stuff in the middle that you're missing that

00:29:23.282 --> 00:29:26.544
there are things you have to address directly in front of you you know it's like,

00:29:27.205 --> 00:29:31.842
it's like being at a you know at a buffet and you have a plate in front of you

00:29:31.842 --> 00:29:34.192
you're thinking about what you're going to put on your next plate but you haven't

00:29:34.192 --> 00:29:37.562
picked up your fork yet you know like Yeah.

00:29:38.922 --> 00:29:42.882
You have to eat this plate, you can't have two full plates, it's not going to work.

00:29:43.384 --> 00:29:49.182
So it's just like, that segmenting helps a lot, especially before,

00:29:49.182 --> 00:29:56.762
but also afterwards, with kind of mitigating that stress and everything.

00:29:58.611 --> 00:30:02.059
If you just, you're taking those little bites, it helps. Um,

00:30:02.251 --> 00:30:03.717
uh, afterwards it helps too.

00:30:03.717 --> 00:30:08.538
Cause it helps like keep you from going back into your spiral of like,

00:30:09.426 --> 00:30:11.577
Oh, well, like this happened, this happened. If you just focus on like,

00:30:11.577 --> 00:30:14.683
all right, I've stepped off the mat matches over. All right.

00:30:15.437 --> 00:30:18.520
I, you know, depending on when is, all right, I need to go back to the bullpen,

00:30:18.978 --> 00:30:23.036
get ready for the next one or Hey, we'll go out.

00:30:23.617 --> 00:30:26.717
I'll say, I'll say, Hey to coach, say hey to whoever was there.

00:30:26.737 --> 00:30:31.477
All right, then we need to go to the podium. All right, go sit at the podium.

00:30:32.196 --> 00:30:35.177
All right, get the medal. Get that done. Like, finish your job,

00:30:35.177 --> 00:30:38.167
right? Like, all right, I need to hop on the podium and you get my picture.

00:30:38.167 --> 00:30:41.477
Like, win or lose. You should be going to the podium regardless.

00:30:43.077 --> 00:30:46.477
If your name is on there, go up there, get your picture. It's out of respect

00:30:46.477 --> 00:30:50.437
for everybody else too. Like, don't be the guy that doesn't show up to the podium,

00:30:50.437 --> 00:30:52.700
holds up everyone else's day. That's crazy talk.

00:30:53.152 --> 00:30:57.347
Um if you want to throw your metal away afterwards whatever dude i don't sure

00:30:57.347 --> 00:31:04.652
i disagree with it but that's fine yeah um on that note man it's like anytime you know um.

00:31:06.365 --> 00:31:12.167
I'll tell people when it when people like feel like i don't know shame or whatever

00:31:12.167 --> 00:31:15.617
for the the metal they've received for whatever the reason is i'm like i always

00:31:15.617 --> 00:31:18.377
ask them like did you show up and compete Yeah.

00:31:18.377 --> 00:31:21.077
I'm like, yeah, go get the fucking medal, man. Like, you did it.

00:31:21.077 --> 00:31:24.727
Like, you didn't, like, yeah, but I lost or whatever. Like, yeah,

00:31:24.727 --> 00:31:27.387
big fucking deal, dude. Yeah, how long did you train for this?

00:31:27.387 --> 00:31:28.507
How long did you, like...

00:31:28.557 --> 00:31:31.797
Did you pay to go do it? How much work did you do to get the weight off?

00:31:32.497 --> 00:31:35.317
Did you fight that fight? Yeah, I did. Like, well, then go get it.

00:31:35.317 --> 00:31:37.967
Yeah. Like, you can still think whatever you want to think, but,

00:31:37.967 --> 00:31:41.211
like, go pick it up, man. Like you said, maybe it is for the whole...

00:31:42.814 --> 00:31:48.239
Uh the whole environment out of respect to the game like go do it man like don't

00:31:48.239 --> 00:31:50.262
don't don't be a crybaby about it well and don't

00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:54.929
don't disrespect yourself by it that that's the biggest part i mean even more

00:31:54.929 --> 00:31:58.458
so like whatever the other people like you still should because,

00:31:59.016 --> 00:32:02.959
you're just holding up other people's whatever like but don't also disrespect

00:32:02.959 --> 00:32:08.304
your your own work and everything else that you put into this like dude every single,

00:32:09.051 --> 00:32:10.688
like especially like right now.

00:32:11.785 --> 00:32:15.094
Which will be after whatever it'll be done when this comes out but,

00:32:15.750 --> 00:32:22.129
right now like 13 dudes are all training their butts off for the past eight

00:32:22.129 --> 00:32:27.059
weeks like i mean talking like busting their asses for eight weeks and we've

00:32:27.059 --> 00:32:30.727
talked about it too with like training partners but everyone's busting their ass for eight weeks,

00:32:31.667 --> 00:32:37.159
and in this in that case too like by you show up you do you do the work i don't

00:32:37.159 --> 00:32:41.949
care if you lose to lose and get a third metal, like third place metal.

00:32:41.949 --> 00:32:45.100
If you get a third place, you know, you did the work for eight weeks.

00:32:46.046 --> 00:32:51.288
Your training partners helped you like showed up and put, put their,

00:32:51.550 --> 00:32:54.342
their time and energy into helping you get ready for this.

00:32:54.661 --> 00:32:58.719
And you not going up there and this is, I'm like derailing this because it's

00:32:58.719 --> 00:33:03.136
fresh in my mind. Cause I keep seeing people posting this shit about like default metals.

00:33:03.572 --> 00:33:06.457
Um, but there's people that help you get ready for this there's people that

00:33:06.619 --> 00:33:11.399
helped you end up where you were you made weight you went out there you fought

00:33:11.399 --> 00:33:15.099
these people watched you fight they are pumped that you went out and did it

00:33:15.099 --> 00:33:17.984
they're proud that their gym is that their gym is being,

00:33:18.901 --> 00:33:23.812
showcased in that you went out there you busted your ass against this other guy you.

00:33:25.048 --> 00:33:29.767
You probably even gave them a hard match, right? Like guaranteed you gave them

00:33:29.767 --> 00:33:31.613
a harder match than they've ever had.

00:33:32.118 --> 00:33:35.557
And then you go up there, you get your medal, you pout about it,

00:33:35.557 --> 00:33:38.577
pout about it, post it on social media that you're pouting about it.

00:33:38.577 --> 00:33:43.457
Like, yeah, they're like, oh, I, I don't deserve this. You shouldn't take participation

00:33:43.457 --> 00:33:47.345
trophies. It's like, dude, well, it's a little more. It's not that. That's not what it is.

00:33:47.977 --> 00:33:51.597
Like there's more to it. It's not like you are a five-year-old that showed up

00:33:51.597 --> 00:33:53.737
to a soccer game. This is a different thing.

00:33:54.197 --> 00:34:01.532
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the show like if it's like.

00:34:36.497 --> 00:34:40.297
A it's like a weak attempt at being humble yeah it's like i don't want to be

00:34:40.297 --> 00:34:43.946
humble so yeah i don't i don't understand that either it's,

00:34:44.737 --> 00:34:48.937
i think it's it's a weird ego thing it's a ego thing and perception of humility

00:34:48.937 --> 00:34:52.277
but that's but it's fake that's not what humility is no it's fake humility because

00:34:52.277 --> 00:34:55.617
you have to you're having to show this to the internet and yeah dude yeah don't

00:34:55.617 --> 00:34:57.482
post that stuff and being being

00:34:57.795 --> 00:35:02.481
being proud of yourself and well and then also like shitting on people for posting about their,

00:35:03.009 --> 00:35:08.297
which i know this is going to see you like i yes i post when i get a medal it's fine like,

00:35:09.097 --> 00:35:13.497
yeah yeah because i'm proud of myself sorry like i you know like that's crazy

00:35:13.497 --> 00:35:16.117
to be like oh you shouldn't be proud of your accomplishments like i don't know

00:35:16.117 --> 00:35:19.117
that's like a silly thing how to feel yeah like i don't know But.

00:35:21.337 --> 00:35:22.647
Yeah, I mean, it's just like a...

00:35:24.730 --> 00:35:28.331
All that to be said, to relate it to what we're talking about,

00:35:29.515 --> 00:35:34.500
everything you're doing, you should be proud of, and that also should help you

00:35:34.500 --> 00:35:37.977
on the front end, know that that outcome doesn't matter.

00:35:38.680 --> 00:35:43.373
Yeah. You know, it's okay to have high standards, and it's good to have high standards.

00:35:43.373 --> 00:35:46.350
Yes. You should want more than what, like, that's okay. Yeah,

00:35:46.350 --> 00:35:49.510
and you know, like, holding your head high is like a statement in and of itself,

00:35:49.510 --> 00:35:50.530
regardless of the outcome.

00:35:50.530 --> 00:35:56.385
Um and there is that uh which i in my opinion like,

00:35:57.227 --> 00:36:02.213
people respect that more um people respect seeing,

00:36:02.930 --> 00:36:07.590
um i think i mean there's definitely haters out there for sure haters but you

00:36:07.590 --> 00:36:11.110
know this isn't for haters you can't fix haters um i don't know how to fix haters

00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:12.810
if you have haters you made it anyways.

00:36:15.090 --> 00:36:19.260
I think there's some truth to that but yeah so so big deal like you can't fix

00:36:19.260 --> 00:36:22.055
haters but like you know i respect it when i see dudes who are like,

00:36:23.088 --> 00:36:29.650
like veteran winners who like proudly post their um their failures and then

00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:33.414
show the world that they're like big deal life goes on i'm gonna keep going you,

00:36:34.012 --> 00:36:37.280
know there's there's there's like there's there's some valor or something to

00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:41.814
that there's like wisdom there's humility um there's a person who like embraces the,

00:36:42.446 --> 00:36:46.930
the lifestyle the challenge that you know i think that's kind of more of what

00:36:46.930 --> 00:36:50.790
this is all about anyways well and if you can find it it's like we talked about

00:36:50.790 --> 00:36:53.528
you have to be able to find value win or lose,

00:36:54.103 --> 00:37:00.773
and if you only see value in it because you won a gold medal then that's,

00:37:01.771 --> 00:37:07.330
that's such a shallow you know like that's it that's that's a shallow journey

00:37:07.330 --> 00:37:11.657
this is going to be a tough journey because you're not always going to win and like if if.

00:37:13.130 --> 00:37:16.380
Um and like i said, it's, it's good to, it's a good thing to have high standards

00:37:16.380 --> 00:37:18.000
and say, I'm doing this to win.

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:22.170
Like I want to win. Like I, I, I, I try to live that way. It's,

00:37:22.170 --> 00:37:23.441
it's a good thing, but like,

00:37:24.625 --> 00:37:32.739
This game's going to beat you down if that's what you have to have to feel value.

00:37:33.666 --> 00:37:39.086
Because you can go on a hot streak for a while, and if that's your psychology,

00:37:39.546 --> 00:37:41.058
that can be really useful for you.

00:37:41.886 --> 00:37:46.265
It's like being addicted to a drug, I suppose.

00:37:48.912 --> 00:37:51.966
But that hit, it's not going to... You know what I mean?

00:37:52.266 --> 00:37:55.046
The second you don't like score that hit of the drug or whatever,

00:37:55.046 --> 00:37:57.446
if you don't get that gold medal and you're just like, you crash out,

00:37:57.446 --> 00:38:01.146
like it's, it's, it might ruin you.

00:38:01.146 --> 00:38:04.846
It might wreck you. And so like, I would, you know, it's, it's a,

00:38:05.186 --> 00:38:06.686
it's a balancing act, right?

00:38:06.686 --> 00:38:11.636
Like be, be competitive, push yourself, like, like go the extra,

00:38:11.636 --> 00:38:14.706
like extra step to deliver on everything we've talked about.

00:38:14.706 --> 00:38:17.026
Because like ultimately what we're talking about is like we want these lessons

00:38:17.026 --> 00:38:20.436
so we can improve our outcome and the point of doing this is is to try to win

00:38:20.436 --> 00:38:23.040
for sure um but it's accepting that,

00:38:23.893 --> 00:38:29.156
that's not always it's certainly not within your control um and while that's that's,

00:38:29.993 --> 00:38:33.506
um a great attitude to have to like push for the gold medal like

00:38:33.906 --> 00:38:38.056
like fight hard for it fight your hardest to get the damn medal that that's

00:38:38.056 --> 00:38:42.106
definitely what you want before like going into a match like you should be right

00:38:42.106 --> 00:38:44.406
like well i guess what i'm saying is like all of these like like

00:38:44.786 --> 00:38:48.446
the thoughts of humility and like embracing the struggle and the grind and everything

00:38:48.446 --> 00:38:49.862
we've talked about up to now,

00:38:50.396 --> 00:38:52.923
is what helps you become a winner and,

00:38:54.086 --> 00:38:54.906
be proud of that.

00:38:54.906 --> 00:38:59.308
But like, I think that's like where you like, there's like underlying principles,

00:38:59.917 --> 00:39:04.294
that turns people into winners that I think, um.

00:39:05.723 --> 00:39:10.923
Are humble perhaps um and it's like you said like you'll see all your heroes

00:39:10.923 --> 00:39:12.823
in jiu-jitsu are dudes who have,

00:39:13.283 --> 00:39:17.883
put in years of taking losses and still kept going and kept working really hard

00:39:17.883 --> 00:39:21.772
and just like would not quit this got better they got they kind of earned through like,

00:39:22.642 --> 00:39:26.003
probably experiencing people like hating on them and shit like that like and

00:39:26.003 --> 00:39:30.205
then like tough losses and continuing to just get better.

00:39:30.823 --> 00:39:35.473
The Gordon Ryan that all of you are new to newer to jiu-jitsu that you see now

00:39:35.473 --> 00:39:42.523
right like this guy who's unbeatable is not the reality of what competitive jiu-jitsu is.

00:39:42.523 --> 00:39:48.293
He's an outlier and but you know like I it's been a while since that man's lost

00:39:48.293 --> 00:39:53.973
but he has lost before and didn't stop him if you know like he's.

00:39:53.973 --> 00:39:55.963
You just haven't heard you just it's just not what's talked about.

00:39:55.963 --> 00:39:58.153
You just don't see it because he just fucking wins all the time.

00:39:58.153 --> 00:40:03.096
Yeah. Which is, which is great, but, um, you know, he's, he, I, I, I,

00:40:05.451 --> 00:40:09.701
I follow him. I wouldn't say I follow him crazy closely, but he's everywhere

00:40:09.701 --> 00:40:11.791
on social media and he's got YouTube channels and stuff like that,

00:40:11.791 --> 00:40:12.751
but the dude's always working.

00:40:14.961 --> 00:40:21.161
There's a process behind that high performer that I think aligns with what we're

00:40:21.161 --> 00:40:24.788
talking about. He's uniquely successful in this space.

00:40:27.359 --> 00:40:31.271
But there are other... Maybe we can pick a more mortal,

00:40:32.351 --> 00:40:38.389
reference point than gordon because he's so uniquely spectacular jiu-jitsu competitions,

00:40:38.847 --> 00:40:42.725
um but there are other world champions out there that you'll watch who like i mean this is actually,

00:40:43.300 --> 00:40:46.051
adam wardzinski has posted this like you see it all the time with like high

00:40:46.051 --> 00:40:48.786
level performers these guys who are like posting like they'll they'll,

00:40:49.372 --> 00:40:52.451
i've seen countless screenshots he's this one that comes to mind i saw it relatively

00:40:52.451 --> 00:40:56.471
recently where he like posts like wait he posted right before worlds right yeah

00:40:56.471 --> 00:41:00.041
i saw the post too he was like dude since 2017 i've been trying to do this it's

00:41:00.041 --> 00:41:03.011
2026 or maybe that was 2025, when he posted it.

00:41:03.011 --> 00:41:05.991
But he's like, dude, here are all the years where I ate shit in competition.

00:41:06.031 --> 00:41:08.961
He posted it right before Worlds this year. And then he went and he fucking

00:41:08.961 --> 00:41:12.941
won. Yeah. It's cool to see these guys who are like, yo, I'm just another person

00:41:12.941 --> 00:41:15.883
like the rest of you who dealt with losses for years.

00:41:17.365 --> 00:41:21.144
No one pays attention to those details as much as he does, but he cares.

00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:25.391
He kept going and he fucking won. If you were to take what he posted and put

00:41:25.391 --> 00:41:30.581
it on a graph, you would see tons of peaks and valleys, peaks and valleys.

00:41:30.930 --> 00:41:34.881
Win this thing, lose these three things, then win this thing,

00:41:34.881 --> 00:41:38.781
get to Worlds, riding high, and then boom, knocked out in the first round,

00:41:38.781 --> 00:41:42.531
and then climbing back up, then knocked out in the first round at Worlds again.

00:41:42.531 --> 00:41:45.961
I think that was a bunch of them in a row, where it was knocked out in the first

00:41:45.961 --> 00:41:47.811
round, Knocked out in the first round. Knocked out in the first round.

00:41:47.851 --> 00:41:50.498
Something like that. Make it to the second round. Make it to third place.

00:41:50.730 --> 00:41:54.311
Knocked out in the first round again. Like, it's going to be ups and downs.

00:41:54.771 --> 00:41:58.751
So you have to put more value in it than victory. For sure.

00:41:59.111 --> 00:42:02.561
And also, I think for what it's worth, when you look at those two,

00:42:02.561 --> 00:42:05.971
it's like you can also see that there was, I mean, I'd have to look at the post

00:42:05.971 --> 00:42:11.571
again, but there's also probably a pattern of slow improvements and some more and more success.

00:42:13.171 --> 00:42:16.661
I didn't memorize the post, but like i'd be willing to bet if we looked at it

00:42:16.661 --> 00:42:21.511
there was probably some like took an l to go win some lose some win a little

00:42:21.511 --> 00:42:27.611
more lose win a little more it was like he he the free the frequency of victory increases

00:42:28.011 --> 00:42:30.541
it did because he because because of all the things we're talking about it's

00:42:30.541 --> 00:42:33.351
like he just kind of kept doing it and kept he didn't want to quit he was like

00:42:33.351 --> 00:42:36.298
i can keep i can do better i can keep pushing myself and like i,

00:42:36.949 --> 00:42:40.361
i'm certain i think he only posts like major it might have been all just it

00:42:40.361 --> 00:42:43.841
might have just been a yearly worlds post that he was showing It was basically

00:42:43.841 --> 00:42:45.991
like the, I think he had a lot of like the Grand Slam.

00:42:46.511 --> 00:42:49.421
Okay, but I'd be willing to bet if he showed his other opens.

00:42:49.421 --> 00:42:54.689
Because I'm pretty sure that he wasn't just doing, he was probably doing a bunch of opens.

00:42:55.083 --> 00:42:58.931
And if you saw the body of his work, it was probably like more golds,

00:42:59.311 --> 00:43:02.971
more silvers, more success, more success than the big boys or what he was posting

00:43:02.971 --> 00:43:04.348
about. But like, yeah, yeah.

00:43:05.011 --> 00:43:10.501
Look, he just, it's a cool example of a guy who's like a jiu-jitsu hero who does really well.

00:43:10.501 --> 00:43:15.681
He is a world champion maybe multiple time world champion now who was just like

00:43:15.681 --> 00:43:18.691
I'm like everyone else man I have to find a way to deal with losses and guess

00:43:18.691 --> 00:43:20.392
what I just kept showing up guys.

00:43:21.268 --> 00:43:27.759
And it worked. Once, like, another one, someone who's widely accepted as one

00:43:27.759 --> 00:43:32.077
of the top, as, like, the top featherweight right now in Kolibate, right?

00:43:32.478 --> 00:43:36.559
He just won his first Worlds. And he's been, like, a, I mean,

00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.309
he's very young, so, like, it's acceptable.

00:43:39.109 --> 00:43:41.289
He's a young man, yeah. He's a young man, but, like, you know,

00:43:41.289 --> 00:43:45.562
it's, he's still someone who, prior to winning that, was still,

00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.231
like, considered the guy in his division, but.

00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:54.569
Regardless of whether he won that world, he just kept going.

00:43:54.569 --> 00:43:57.239
Like you're saying, it's a bunch of guys that are like this where they just

00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:02.409
keep showing up, grinding, win or lose. They show up the next year and they're

00:44:02.409 --> 00:44:04.139
a little bit better. Show up the next year, a little bit better.

00:44:04.139 --> 00:44:07.383
Show up the next month, they're a little bit better. It's just...

00:44:09.264 --> 00:44:12.789
The wins will come the wins will come and and it's like you know we're talking

00:44:12.789 --> 00:44:17.309
about like competition nerves and psychology but if you if you i think that

00:44:17.309 --> 00:44:22.724
for what it's worth like with competitors it's like you you make it like it's there's there is a um.

00:44:24.749 --> 00:44:27.459
It would appear that there's like a relatively simple formula to us which is

00:44:27.459 --> 00:44:29.341
like these guys just kept competing it's like think of,

00:44:29.893 --> 00:44:32.219
you know it's kind of like what we what we mentioned earlier with like with

00:44:32.219 --> 00:44:34.829
tiny and with other newer folks where it's like hey look like you're new doesn't

00:44:34.829 --> 00:44:37.749
mean you can't have high expectations but at the same time it's your first i

00:44:37.749 --> 00:44:40.709
always use the analogy of like other sports or i'm like remember like a game

00:44:40.709 --> 00:44:42.048
you played when you were a kid where like,

00:44:42.507 --> 00:44:46.605
your first game of your first season wasn't like your best performance,

00:44:47.070 --> 00:44:51.365
but if you any i pick other sports because sports have seasoned you'll play so many games or,

00:44:52.277 --> 00:44:54.889
to what i'm trying to get to here is like you got to keep competing you got

00:44:54.889 --> 00:44:59.329
to get treat competition like a different skill set like the amount of like

00:44:59.329 --> 00:45:05.553
you showing up in the gym and training and improving is an example of a workflow,

00:45:06.245 --> 00:45:09.628
that should convey to you like i kept showing up and i got better well,

00:45:10.342 --> 00:45:13.149
much like that but it's very different competitions the same thing it's like

00:45:13.149 --> 00:45:18.169
you just got to keep competing to get better well and the teams just kind of play with your other,

00:45:18.816 --> 00:45:22.779
your analogy there with other sports like the teams that do the best are the

00:45:22.779 --> 00:45:24.644
ones that are better later,

00:45:25.207 --> 00:45:29.389
right like the most successful teams are the ones that get better throughout

00:45:29.389 --> 00:45:34.479
a season or a series of seasons just depending on that's right that's a good

00:45:34.479 --> 00:45:38.077
that's a good analogy it's like yeah like um,

00:45:38.890 --> 00:45:41.459
well let's use the same analogy it's sort of like if you played baseball or

00:45:41.459 --> 00:45:45.369
football or basketball or any sport as a kid like and you played it for years

00:45:45.369 --> 00:45:48.659
it's it's a it's a good analogy to use other sports because like we're usually

00:45:48.659 --> 00:45:51.492
talking to adults about this but um.

00:45:52.694 --> 00:45:52.936
You know.

00:45:55.585 --> 00:45:59.616
You'll play baseball for years as a kid if you keep showing up every year.

00:45:59.616 --> 00:46:02.916
Like, you're going to get better year over year. Like, you're going to play full seasons.

00:46:03.256 --> 00:46:06.586
By the time you become really good or, like, at a high-level competitive level,

00:46:06.586 --> 00:46:08.669
like, you've probably played multiple seasons of it. So, like,

00:46:08.930 --> 00:46:10.167
why would this be any different?

00:46:10.620 --> 00:46:16.666
Why? Like, it might take a couple years for you to, like, crack into the right

00:46:16.666 --> 00:46:18.056
habits to be successful.

00:46:18.056 --> 00:46:21.916
So, like, I would challenge anyone who's, like, struggling with this stuff to

00:46:21.916 --> 00:46:24.856
ask yourself, like, Just write it out. Like, I can see your medals on the wall.

00:46:24.856 --> 00:46:28.296
So, like, it's easy to write down for you, like, quantify, like,

00:46:28.296 --> 00:46:31.168
I've done this 25 times or whatever. Um...

00:46:32.381 --> 00:46:35.647
And there's, there's, and I've learned a lot. Um, but you know,

00:46:35.647 --> 00:46:39.407
maybe it's another 25 before I become like a multiple time black belt medalist

00:46:39.407 --> 00:46:43.027
at all these different awards, but like, that's, there should be like a bit of a, like,

00:46:43.747 --> 00:46:46.929
I, I, I say all this to people to kind of give them like a little bit of like,

00:46:47.294 --> 00:46:48.567
relieve the pressure on yourself.

00:46:48.567 --> 00:46:53.273
Like if you've done four tournaments ever, it's not nothing, but it's not a ton.

00:46:53.732 --> 00:46:57.697
Like give yourself a break. Like it's, it's okay. Like you've done four tournaments.

00:46:57.697 --> 00:46:59.967
Did you think you're going to be like, did you think you're going to be Gordon

00:46:59.967 --> 00:47:02.707
Ryan after four tournaments Gordon Ryan's competed thousands of times maybe

00:47:02.707 --> 00:47:07.838
maybe hundreds of times but like a lot yeah like these guys like like successful competitors they

00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.907
they almost do it like it's their job like they're like this is just part of

00:47:10.907 --> 00:47:14.167
the job like I got to keep competing Cameron Hurd posted that one time a little

00:47:14.167 --> 00:47:16.817
while back and I admired that and he rest he wrestled for a bunch of years so

00:47:16.817 --> 00:47:20.196
it's like I think he had that awareness from his competitive wrestling where it's like he,

00:47:20.776 --> 00:47:22.827
I don't know when he started wrestling but I assume like you know let's say

00:47:22.827 --> 00:47:26.307
relatively young he wrestled in college like four years of college that's I

00:47:26.307 --> 00:47:28.977
don't know how many matches that is i don't know let's say it's 40 matches a

00:47:28.977 --> 00:47:30.185
year i don't even know if it's that,

00:47:30.784 --> 00:47:34.447
that but four times 40 times a lot of matches i don't know what it is but like

00:47:34.447 --> 00:47:38.007
let's just say that it is 40 matches over how deep you get into,

00:47:38.787 --> 00:47:43.727
sure sure sure but let's just just go i'm just picking a number dude at the

00:47:43.727 --> 00:47:47.077
end of his four years of college like that's 160 matches like you haven't done

00:47:47.077 --> 00:47:51.148
160 matches in this sport this guy has yeah like.

00:47:51.932 --> 00:47:54.517
That's going to the kind of developing the expectations thing where i'm like

00:47:54.517 --> 00:47:58.107
well you know like when you when we get to 116 matches we can we can have that

00:47:58.107 --> 00:48:01.317
really high standard and like we can have that approach but if you're like four

00:48:01.317 --> 00:48:04.581
matches four tournaments in give yourself a break,

00:48:05.225 --> 00:48:07.587
you know and you may also like it's it's different when you're a collegiate

00:48:07.587 --> 00:48:09.774
athlete of course versus like a an adult,

00:48:10.442 --> 00:48:13.347
uh who's kind of taking this on as like a side quest it is a different thing

00:48:13.347 --> 00:48:16.507
so you can still temper expectations it may not be 40 matches a year it might

00:48:16.507 --> 00:48:21.047
be four a year which is still good for that person but it just comes that's

00:48:21.047 --> 00:48:24.008
the like the setting expectations part where where, like, give yourself a break.

00:48:25.384 --> 00:48:27.757
If you want to go to where you're doing 40 matches a year, like,

00:48:27.757 --> 00:48:31.217
that's kind of doable these days with, like, local competitions and with a bunch

00:48:31.217 --> 00:48:34.219
of, if you're willing to travel to IBGF, like, you can do it.

00:48:34.782 --> 00:48:36.024
But you've got to be willing to, like,

00:48:36.866 --> 00:48:41.000
do the same work follow the same process like i said it's just like training

00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:45.800
words where like you got to put in some hours in the game just as much as you

00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.131
put it in hours on the mat to like see gains and so,

00:48:49.862 --> 00:48:53.960
you know all going back to like if it's an ego and expectations of results like

00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:58.262
it's going to be tough and and you know what maybe you actually go out and do it which is great,

00:48:58.779 --> 00:49:02.935
but if that's what you need out of that experience it's going to be a challenge

00:49:03.283 --> 00:49:05.730
whereas if you humble yourself and say, all right, well, you know,

00:49:05.730 --> 00:49:08.270
humble yourself, but also still hold yourself to a high ambitious standard.

00:49:08.270 --> 00:49:11.740
Like I'm willing to do the 40 matches a year. I know I'm just picking a number.

00:49:12.059 --> 00:49:17.100
I'm going to do the 15, 20 matches a year. Um, cause I really want to be successful

00:49:17.100 --> 00:49:20.100
at this and I'm just not going to quit until I get what I want out of it.

00:49:20.100 --> 00:49:22.470
Maybe what I want out of it is maybe after you do it enough times,

00:49:22.470 --> 00:49:24.670
it's like, I don't, you stop caring about the results and you're like,

00:49:24.670 --> 00:49:27.900
dude, I should really enjoy the struggle and the improvement process,

00:49:27.900 --> 00:49:31.100
which I would say is what you need to get to because,

00:49:31.721 --> 00:49:35.490
all of us have our unique talents and individuality.

00:49:36.150 --> 00:49:37.950
Someone's going to be more talented than you.

00:49:38.774 --> 00:49:40.492
But that doesn't mean they're always going to beat you either.

00:49:42.650 --> 00:49:46.030
Someone might just have the game that just is the answer to yours.

00:49:46.268 --> 00:49:47.790
There's just a lot of different... There's so many variables.

00:49:47.790 --> 00:49:50.810
There's so many things that just can change those outcomes, right?

00:49:50.810 --> 00:49:53.210
For sure. But I just say that to say, whoever that individual is,

00:49:54.270 --> 00:50:00.003
what's the right amount of work in the game of jiu-jitsu to keep you.

00:50:01.518 --> 00:50:03.957
Skill development-wise, again, wearing the hat of competition,

00:50:03.957 --> 00:50:06.207
like to help you improve competition outcomes.

00:50:06.573 --> 00:50:11.117
What's that look like for you? And to the extent that we can find that and reach

00:50:11.117 --> 00:50:14.407
your capacity, it's an individual choice. Like, do you want to do 40 matches

00:50:14.407 --> 00:50:16.139
here? Like, I would support you.

00:50:17.144 --> 00:50:19.077
That might be too much, but you

00:50:19.077 --> 00:50:21.427
get what I'm saying. I did pretty close to that last year. You did a lot.

00:50:22.427 --> 00:50:25.047
I don't think you need 40 matches here, by the way. I don't think you do.

00:50:25.427 --> 00:50:30.147
But I would tell you it is a lot. um and that there are probably some usually

00:50:30.147 --> 00:50:33.487
younger people with the ability and the time the flexibility to do stuff like that but,

00:50:34.087 --> 00:50:37.477
not everyone can do that but and i would also argue you don't think you necessarily

00:50:37.477 --> 00:50:41.687
need to do that but i would say you know like look if we think it's 12 but you're

00:50:41.687 --> 00:50:44.932
like i think this year i can do 16 like okay cool i think it'll help you that's,

00:50:45.501 --> 00:50:50.727
25 percent more of an output like that's statistically measurable and valuable,

00:50:51.367 --> 00:50:54.877
um but it may not be necessarily realistic but like it i just say that to say

00:50:54.877 --> 00:50:58.437
like it's it's more work and And like most things in life, the harder you work

00:50:58.437 --> 00:51:00.867
at things, you will get more results.

00:51:01.372 --> 00:51:07.837
But my reason for saying all that was just like in a hypothetical one-on-one

00:51:07.837 --> 00:51:10.397
conversation with an individual, it would be something along those lines of

00:51:10.397 --> 00:51:13.807
like what can we realistically do? What do we want to realistically expect?

00:51:13.807 --> 00:51:16.318
And where can we push ourselves? And where we can push ourselves and we can –.

00:51:18.560 --> 00:51:23.059
Have a good system and process for tracking whatever the output is and then

00:51:23.059 --> 00:51:26.759
trying to implement adjustments like that's just going to make you better it's

00:51:26.759 --> 00:51:29.549
going to make you better it's going to make you more confident it's going to help you,

00:51:30.269 --> 00:51:34.472
in those like nerve scenarios too right like mentally it's,

00:51:35.040 --> 00:51:40.584
it's gonna help you rein yourself in when you've been there enough times right

00:51:40.985 --> 00:51:44.892
i mean it's just like it's just like everything else that we talk about like,

00:51:45.339 --> 00:51:48.589
reps reps reps right if if you're,

00:51:49.069 --> 00:51:53.769
getting those mental reps of existing in that space right having to,

00:51:54.289 --> 00:51:59.569
experience those nerve experience that that nervousness that anxious that anxiety

00:51:59.569 --> 00:52:05.214
and like all of that that comes along with that like pre-match pre-tournament pre-match,

00:52:06.090 --> 00:52:13.129
experience i guess existence um probably both of those words but if you're if

00:52:13.129 --> 00:52:17.949
you get those reps of like having to exist and experience that over and over and over again.

00:52:19.204 --> 00:52:20.669
It's gonna get better.

00:52:21.909 --> 00:52:25.856
You're gonna get better. Yeah, and just like you said, you...

00:52:26.887 --> 00:52:30.707
Don't have especially on your first one like you,

00:52:31.531 --> 00:52:35.946
don't really need expectation at that point either right like you you talked

00:52:35.946 --> 00:52:38.875
about we talked about that earlier we're like you,

00:52:39.560 --> 00:52:42.276
you haven't done this before you don't you don't,

00:52:42.936 --> 00:52:47.076
have what you don't have the right is one thing but so it's i think it's i just

00:52:47.076 --> 00:52:51.006
use that phrase because you shouldn't you just don't need to have an expectation

00:52:51.006 --> 00:52:53.155
you don't need to i say that because i use like a

00:52:53.323 --> 00:52:56.716
that's like a bit of a shock and awe like way to say like oh but i say it as

00:52:56.716 --> 00:53:00.536
like a harsh way but like a kind of a like oh like i want to cut through to that person like this,

00:53:01.525 --> 00:53:04.606
is your first time doing it you think you're gonna be the best at it right away

00:53:04.606 --> 00:53:07.996
like i'm not saying you can't i'm not saying you shouldn't go out with an attitude

00:53:07.996 --> 00:53:11.666
of like i am awesome i'm gonna do my best like that's great but it's like i

00:53:11.666 --> 00:53:15.758
intentionally shock and awe people with that statement to say dude just relax,

00:53:16.716 --> 00:53:20.766
dude if you are the best at it like fuck yeah cool i might you know make a youtube

00:53:20.766 --> 00:53:23.296
channel for you and like Let's all be surprised by it, though.

00:53:23.296 --> 00:53:26.726
Yes, exactly. It's almost better that way, too, right? I think it is better

00:53:26.726 --> 00:53:30.696
that way, because it just takes, you might, my hope is that by telling people

00:53:30.696 --> 00:53:33.202
that they actually end up doing better, because it relieves the pressure.

00:53:34.156 --> 00:53:37.336
Just give yourself a break. Like, I don't think you're gonna, hey, prove me wrong.

00:53:38.026 --> 00:53:41.156
Well, another thing that we talked about, and this ties in. I don't expect you

00:53:41.156 --> 00:53:43.886
to be Gordon Ryan on day one. Oh, absolutely not. I just don't.

00:53:43.886 --> 00:53:48.202
But like, we talked about, when we were leaving the gym, how like,

00:53:48.586 --> 00:53:50.472
we were talking about soccer, but.

00:53:51.773 --> 00:53:55.873
Like we're talking about messy probably you know he's a goat right is how he

00:53:55.873 --> 00:53:59.661
just is having fun and when you,

00:54:00.578 --> 00:54:08.253
put those when you just go have fun and like you enjoy the experience have fun is you know maybe but,

00:54:08.851 --> 00:54:13.273
if you just if you allow yourself to enjoy the experience you're probably going

00:54:13.273 --> 00:54:15.770
to have better outcomes anyways,

00:54:16.751 --> 00:54:20.135
and you're going to have you're going to be more like,

00:54:20.728 --> 00:54:26.653
mentally uninhibited it's that and like you'll just you'll be able to do the things you

00:54:27.093 --> 00:54:31.783
can do you'll perform um you'll flow you'll perform by the way to draw a parallel

00:54:31.783 --> 00:54:36.183
with a goat in our world who talked exactly about this was marcelo garcia a

00:54:36.183 --> 00:54:37.233
couple years ago he was like dude

00:54:37.233 --> 00:54:41.184
i just got to where i was like i love jujitsu so much i love it so much,

00:54:41.689 --> 00:54:45.743
like i can't have a bad time and i just this is how i want to do i love i'm

00:54:45.743 --> 00:54:47.181
obsessed with it i love it like,

00:54:48.499 --> 00:54:52.623
how can i lose you know like it's how can you lose when it's like no matter

00:54:52.623 --> 00:54:56.373
what happens this is the best thing ever yeah you just had a great time dude

00:54:56.373 --> 00:55:01.396
I felt that in Vegas I was it's good man I was feeling good I didn't care like I genuinely,

00:55:01.853 --> 00:55:03.869
it's like you get the privilege you get to go do this,

00:55:04.786 --> 00:55:06.513
and like yeah I wanted to win of course.

00:55:07.873 --> 00:55:11.816
Don't like don't get it twisted out of we're in it to win it baby yeah but like,

00:55:12.613 --> 00:55:18.513
I was not did not feel down I felt good like I was happy I was excited like

00:55:18.513 --> 00:55:24.186
the rush that you get from like you I mean, you have to like fighting, but like I enjoy...

00:55:25.676 --> 00:55:29.852
I enjoyed it like i enjoyed being i enjoyed having the nerves i enjoyed,

00:55:30.531 --> 00:55:35.716
getting rid of the nerves embracing them like going out there like competing

00:55:35.716 --> 00:55:42.396
like it is fun jujitsu is fun and you should let yourself have fun don't be

00:55:42.396 --> 00:55:44.951
so serious that it's not fun anymore if it,

00:55:45.671 --> 00:55:48.826
because honestly i'll tell you if it's not fun don't do it why are you doing

00:55:48.826 --> 00:55:51.396
it don't do it if it's not fun it's true and like Like, I get,

00:55:51.396 --> 00:55:55.326
like, maybe you know that it will be fun and you need to get past that barrier.

00:55:55.326 --> 00:55:59.436
Like, I know people who know, like, hey, like, when I am having fun,

00:55:59.436 --> 00:56:04.156
I enjoy this, but it's so hard for them to get past the mental barrier and the

00:56:04.156 --> 00:56:06.096
nerves to allow themselves to have fun.

00:56:06.136 --> 00:56:10.756
Yes. And so they keep doing it because they know, like, I've had fun doing this. I need to do this.

00:56:10.856 --> 00:56:13.856
Chasing the fun. You know, like, it is an interesting way of,

00:56:13.856 --> 00:56:17.046
and that would beg the conversation about how people define fun.

00:56:17.046 --> 00:56:19.356
Because there are going to be people out there, I mean, myself sometimes,

00:56:19.356 --> 00:56:20.935
where it doesn't always feel fun.

00:56:21.277 --> 00:56:23.187
But I always find value in doing it.

00:56:23.988 --> 00:56:28.036
I can't stop doing it. But that just makes me think about what my definition

00:56:28.036 --> 00:56:30.176
of fun is because I keep doing it. Well, it could be enjoyment, right?

00:56:30.196 --> 00:56:32.896
Yeah, yeah. It doesn't have to be like fun fun. Yeah, yeah.

00:56:33.016 --> 00:56:35.376
We're not like riding roller coasters and stuff. But like, you know,

00:56:35.376 --> 00:56:37.456
you have value and enjoyment.

00:56:37.816 --> 00:56:42.726
You receive value from it. You receive value and like enjoyment from it,

00:56:42.726 --> 00:56:46.876
whether or not that's like fun enjoyment, but like you enjoy something about

00:56:46.876 --> 00:56:47.656
it, right? Yes, yes, yes.

00:56:47.796 --> 00:56:51.326
Because if you don't, if you receive zero value, you then maybe don't do it

00:56:51.326 --> 00:56:55.896
it's not for you that's okay which is okay please do something that you do receive value from,

00:56:56.456 --> 00:56:59.776
hopefully it's still jujitsu yeah but um you know if you're listening to this

00:56:59.776 --> 00:57:03.396
podcast i assume it is you you like this stuff a little bit yeah should we do

00:57:03.396 --> 00:57:06.216
a combat confessional oh yeah we will so i think we did i think we did a good

00:57:06.216 --> 00:57:09.956
job on this it was good we'll summarize it real quick with like it's.

00:57:11.147 --> 00:57:14.222
Get out of your own head. It exists in your head a little bit.

00:57:14.409 --> 00:57:17.942
Learn to live with it. Learn to just take it on. It's like data.

00:57:17.942 --> 00:57:20.812
It's like, oh, when I go and do this, this type of stuff is what,

00:57:21.692 --> 00:57:26.352
when I register for X, the feelings of Y are presented to me.

00:57:26.352 --> 00:57:29.293
And it's like, you chose to do it, so let's face these things.

00:57:29.431 --> 00:57:32.154
Well, and they will not go away.

00:57:32.502 --> 00:57:40.026
Yeah. They will not go. You will always have nerves. We have to learn to accept them. Yes.

00:57:40.182 --> 00:57:45.172
You have to almost like, and we talk about it, like we, every single tournament,

00:57:45.172 --> 00:57:52.406
we're like, you, sometimes that's how you feel things or you're able to, like, able to like, you.

00:57:54.188 --> 00:58:00.222
Approach other shit you have to deal like deal with things in your own head

00:58:00.222 --> 00:58:04.028
and like whatever like that's that's part of it and that's good and like,

00:58:05.102 --> 00:58:09.752
but for you know i guess for normal people who feel things on a regular basis

00:58:09.752 --> 00:58:17.882
maybe you know like that that fear and anxiety and the nerves are are a part

00:58:17.882 --> 00:58:19.777
of it and they don't go away and,

00:58:20.555 --> 00:58:23.932
you have to learn to accept embrace and utilize them,

00:58:24.775 --> 00:58:27.254
to where you're able to exist in this space.

00:58:27.643 --> 00:58:33.732
The outcomes will be what they are. The wins will come if you just keep doing

00:58:33.732 --> 00:58:38.512
it and you keep getting the reps in, the mental reps and existing in that space.

00:58:39.052 --> 00:58:42.881
The nerves will go away. Well, the nerves will become controllable.

00:58:42.881 --> 00:58:44.013
They'll become less potent.

00:58:44.378 --> 00:58:50.710
Yeah. And you'll be able to accept them and exist alongside them.

00:58:51.972 --> 00:58:55.732
And then you'll be able to take that and turn it into progress.

00:58:56.582 --> 00:58:59.262
And eventually victories. Make it like becoming like a Jedi.

00:58:59.262 --> 00:59:00.822
Like it's like you got to fight these little...

00:59:00.852 --> 00:59:02.992
Got to go through the trials. Yeah, you got to go through the trials.

00:59:02.992 --> 00:59:05.462
Like you just try to become a Jedi. Yeah.

00:59:05.902 --> 00:59:08.262
That's pretty sweet. Jedis rule Star Wars. Jedis are pretty sweet.

00:59:08.262 --> 00:59:10.602
Walk that line. Don't go to the dark side. Don't go to the dark side.

00:59:10.602 --> 00:59:12.682
If the feelings win, you go to the dark side. That's true.

00:59:13.222 --> 00:59:16.692
That is true. Fear leads to hate. That's right. Hate leads to anger.

00:59:17.715 --> 00:59:19.552
Anger leads to the dark side. It all leads to the dark side.

00:59:19.552 --> 00:59:21.632
It all leads to the dark side. Don't have feelings in you.

00:59:22.472 --> 00:59:26.405
You'll be a Jedi. Join us. Just avoid feelings. Just avoid feelings.

00:59:27.072 --> 00:59:30.932
But yeah, no, it's never going to go away. You'll have the nerves.

00:59:32.953 --> 00:59:37.472
It's okay. Yeah. It's okay. Have fun. It's mandatory fun at jujitsu,

00:59:37.472 --> 00:59:40.352
guys. Yeah. At least that's what I think. Yeah, I like that.

00:59:40.352 --> 00:59:42.712
But yeah, combat confessions.

00:59:43.372 --> 00:59:47.852
Combat confessions. This one, I don't think the guy was following in getting

00:59:47.852 --> 00:59:50.704
his mandatory fun. But...

00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:57.825
This is from a white belt. I feel dumb and embarrassed like a fucking loser.

00:59:59.950 --> 01:00:06.115
Okay. I saw someone at the gym with a shirt from a B. I'm assuming he means a different gym.

01:00:07.299 --> 01:00:11.905
At the gym with a shirt, like lifting, not his jujitsu gym, with a shirt from

01:00:11.905 --> 01:00:15.915
a BJJ school in the area. So I asked if they train. They said,

01:00:15.915 --> 01:00:19.496
yeah, and asked if I train. I said, yeah, and told them where.

01:00:19.803 --> 01:00:25.265
They asked if i knew they just they blanked out the name i asked if they knew,

01:00:25.805 --> 01:00:29.685
so-and-so or they asked if i knew so-and-so it sounded vaguely familiar but

01:00:29.685 --> 01:00:33.455
it was a pretty common name so i said i don't know i might just i might but

01:00:33.455 --> 01:00:37.495
it doesn't ring a bell they just nodded and we both moved on so then i'm thinking

01:00:37.495 --> 01:00:40.597
about it racking my fucking brain for who this person is

01:00:41.009 --> 01:00:44.933
i go to my school's discord and look at end of class photos and then i see the guy

01:00:45.351 --> 01:00:49.045
he's the fucking wrestling coach but I've only met him once because he teaches

01:00:49.045 --> 01:00:53.065
class at 5am and I'm not doing that because I have working whatever,

01:00:53.645 --> 01:00:58.615
doesn't work and sleep to get uh but in conclusion now some dude probably thinks

01:00:58.615 --> 01:01:02.995
I'm lying about training because his buddy is a coach at the gym that I go to

01:01:02.995 --> 01:01:04.320
and I said I don't know him,

01:01:04.860 --> 01:01:09.423
uh but I'm go to the fucking 5am classes because my name isn't Jocko fuck uh,

01:01:11.704 --> 01:01:14.665
but yeah so this guy he's embarrassed about that he's embarrassed that he didn't

01:01:14.665 --> 01:01:19.885
know one of the coaches at his gym sorry or so this the guy that he was being

01:01:20.245 --> 01:01:25.358
the guy I was asking about it's like a coach at the gym and now he thinks that this rando doesn't.

01:01:28.266 --> 01:01:30.542
Doesn't thinks he doesn't train um,

01:01:31.517 --> 01:01:35.074
Which is pretty funny. It is. It's okay, little guy. However,

01:01:35.074 --> 01:01:38.454
a comment on this is, I've been training at the same gym for four years,

01:01:38.454 --> 01:01:40.754
and I don't know half the people's names, which is also true.

01:01:40.754 --> 01:01:41.564
That's also normal, yeah.

01:01:41.584 --> 01:01:44.944
Yeah, there's like, so, Big deal.

01:01:44.944 --> 01:01:48.644
There is a pretty, like, there's people who train at five in the morning,

01:01:48.644 --> 01:01:53.704
and there's people who train at night, and like, you will, there's a very high

01:01:53.704 --> 01:01:58.026
probability that you will never see each other, except for like, maybe at promotions.

01:01:58.432 --> 01:02:03.514
So, there's a very high likelihood that you don't know every human being at

01:02:03.514 --> 01:02:09.340
your gym yeah especially if that coach only coaches at 5 a.m so it's okay um like,

01:02:09.793 --> 01:02:14.684
yeah you can not worry too much about that but it's he was a white belt you

01:02:14.684 --> 01:02:18.624
said yeah this is a white belt so he's new so he doesn't he's a new guy he doesn't

01:02:18.624 --> 01:02:22.034
understand the culture but uh he was maybe thinking he's like oh another dude

01:02:22.034 --> 01:02:24.143
another jiu-jitsu guy like he'll be my friend and then,

01:02:24.770 --> 01:02:29.254
he wanted this guy i don't know what he wanted out of that interaction Well, you know, I think...

01:02:29.364 --> 01:02:32.674
He wanted to, like, yeah, we're friends. He's also, he's still a white belt.

01:02:32.674 --> 01:02:35.504
He's still, he's, like, still a little insecure about his jiu-jitsu,

01:02:35.504 --> 01:02:36.693
I'm sure. You know, like...

01:02:37.809 --> 01:02:41.907
He's like, ah, like, I still don't know anything. And now this guy thinks I

01:02:41.907 --> 01:02:43.037
don't know anything. I'm an imposter.

01:02:43.777 --> 01:02:46.117
You don't know anything. You know what about it? It's okay. It's okay.

01:02:46.117 --> 01:02:49.097
It's no big deal. It's okay. If you actually go to the gym, who cares?

01:02:49.497 --> 01:02:50.297
That coach doesn't know your name either.

01:02:50.857 --> 01:02:54.697
Yeah, true. That's for sure. That coach definitely doesn't know your name either

01:02:54.697 --> 01:02:58.305
because you don't see him ever. That's funny.

01:02:58.787 --> 01:03:05.967
Yeah, and then someone did also affirm the AM and PM classes are two different schools.

01:03:05.967 --> 01:03:10.042
Like, it very much is. we were talking about this today they're like yeah like,

01:03:10.803 --> 01:03:16.127
the am and the pm are very much like so you can have separate identities too

01:03:16.127 --> 01:03:22.680
because it's just different people at different times a day and you know the guy,

01:03:23.127 --> 01:03:26.867
the guys that wake up early versus the guys who go to bed late are two different

01:03:26.867 --> 01:03:31.294
animals right you have nocturnal people these different breeds they have,

01:03:32.206 --> 01:03:35.297
dayernal i don't remember the term for it doesn't matter um.

01:03:37.992 --> 01:03:42.577
This guy says, as a law enforcement officer, you should smoke whatever is decriminalized

01:03:42.577 --> 01:03:45.457
in your region. That's funny. I don't know, but I like that.

01:03:46.017 --> 01:03:48.777
I just thought that was a little funny. That is funny. As a law enforcement

01:03:48.777 --> 01:03:50.777
officer, you should smoke whatever is decriminalized.

01:03:51.871 --> 01:03:55.035
Dude. That's actually pretty good advice. No, that's not bad.

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Oh, oh. Take it easy. Well, this would be a good advice if the poster was not a recovered addict.

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Oh. Yeah. Oh, well. Yeah. All right. Yep. Okay. Well, that changed things.

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So don't smoke. So if you're a recovering addict, don't listen to that cop's advice. Yeah.

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But yeah, that was... That's funny. That was our combat confession.

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I need to get combat confession music.

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That'd be kind of fun. I need to get a little combat confession intro song to play into.

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I'll look into it. I think I have to find royalty-free stuff.

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So I'll do a search. I'll find something.

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It'll be good. Okay. And I will also, as we're wrapping up here,

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And I know most of you are turning off the show as I say that, but...

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I will also fix the, there is a sound that plays and it should actually work

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on this episode, but there is supposed to be a sound that plays as the mid-roll

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of us plugging our website cuts in.

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So I apologize for some weird technical glitch on that.

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It is going to be fixed on this episode. So this will not make sense if this

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is the first time you're listening, but it'll make sense later.

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But thank you guys for listening to the show. is and as always this was fighters

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subscribe five stars on those ratings if you don't have them then if you feel

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so inclined if you don't like the show then that's fine keep it yourself um

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rate five stars and tell us we suck that's cool too uh,

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but it helps grow the community pushes out to more people uh you can hop on

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the website you can drop reviews there that that's actually even more beneficial for us.

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And that'll be www.fdcpodcast.com. And if you have your own combat confessions

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or stories from the gym, jujitsu stories, you can drop them on the website.

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donate to the show that helps keep us rolling here helps us keep upgrading things,

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Drinking Coffee we love you guys bye.