Comfort Is the Enemy: Embrace the Suck to Level Up Your Jiu-Jitsu (Episode 75)

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee. We are your hosts,

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Scott Dance and Michael Sutherland.

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And with a combined 40 years of grappling experience, we are here to help you

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make your jiu-jitsu training a little bit easier.

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We did things the hard way, so you don't have to. That's our tagline.

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So, P.T. Barnum once said, comfort is the enemy of growth.

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And you know think what you will about circuses and pt barnum whatever freak

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shows back in the day the bearded lady uh i mean jujitsu is a little bit of

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a freak show anyways right guys um,

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but it it's very true it's a very true statement especially in jujitsu right

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like we talk about like being,

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comfortable and uncomfortable positions you have to like find a way to,

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beat discomfort.

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And because of that, like the, the discomfort is in fact, what makes you better

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at jujitsu? Like you, you have to be, you have to like do those things that

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are hard. You have to do those things that suck.

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Like you can't just only do the drills that you like doing, right?

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You have to be put in the bad position. You have to work on the things that you're bad at.

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You you have to you know learn new things which is inherently difficult to do

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you need to have those hard roles right like there's all these different it

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can go even further than that um i mean heck you know some gyms you,

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like belt promotions is we're just gonna roll for a long time you're gonna get

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smashed everyone's gonna be coming in fresh and you're just gonna have to like

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embrace the suck for a few hours, right?

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They didn't, it's just how it is. It's what makes you better.

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It's what helps you. One, it shows you who you are.

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It makes you like break out of your shell, be willing to take those risks.

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Competition, we're going to go ahead and break that seal at two minutes and 14 seconds today.

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It's going to happen. It was going to happen. We might as well just get it done.

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But you know, competition is...

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You just have to be uncomfortable, right? Like that's one, that's a big part of it.

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And that's one of the things that helps you get better from competition is that

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forced uncomfortability and, you know, being in front of other people, being willing to,

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being willing to put yourself out there knowing that there's a chance that you lose, right?

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Or that maybe you don't have the best performance, but that's okay.

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We're getting better doing this. I mean, heck, I just posted a video of me getting

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tapped out over and over and over and over again because fuck it who cares dude

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like that's what happens in

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this sport you are as long as you're getting better it doesn't matter um,

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yeah man uncomfortability right,

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discomfort discomfort yeah that's that's probably the uncomfortability uncomfortability

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i'm showing my you hick yeah exactly real billy,

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Uh, yeah, definitely. Like a mustard seed. Yeah.

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Flailing around in the wind, finding the ground to soak into and then crack

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through and develop into, I don't know, I guess mustard.

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Yeah, mustard. But mustard seed's like a thing. It's like a known thing.

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Or a better one, like a butterfly. Ooh. Cracking out of the cocoon.

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You gotta push through the cocoon and break the walls. You gotta- You gotta

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break through. Build that chrysalis and hang from the thing and then you gotta

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break out. Hey, I had a feeling you would know a little bit about- I mean, the butterfly.

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I went to grade school. I learned about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah. You sure did.

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The molting cycles of butterflies or caterpillars or something. Yeah.

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Not to sidetrack it, but I did learn about a moth that doesn't have a mouth.

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I know this is off topic, but like. Mouthless moth. It literally only lives

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for a week after. It only eats while it's a caterpillar, and then it turns into

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a moth, and it lives for a week and dies.

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Just like balls off for a week i can fly and then just dies huh pike doesn't

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have a mouth to eat yeah well

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is that and i do most moths have mouths i admit i don't know a ton about my

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anatomy i guess i mean the fact that it told me that this one specifically doesn't

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you find this on instagram well we saw this giant moth and so,

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where did you see this giant this is at my house okay and like my kid was super

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excited about the moth so we took a picture of it like looked it up to find

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know what kind of moth it was.

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Oh, all right. And that was like the big thing. It was like,

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the thing about this moth is it doesn't have a mouth and only lives for a week. Tight.

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So you were thinking about smashing the mouth. You're like, nah,

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you know what? The moth, I'll let him live for a couple more days. We'll let this play out.

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Yeah, his life meter is about to run out. He's already uncomfortable enough.

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Well, you know, interestingly enough, like much like the moth,

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we're all going to die one day. We are. And as mere mortals,

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we have to make the most of the time while we're here. Thus.

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To bring it back. Yeah, you like that? Live like you're a moth,

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guys. Yeah, live like you're the mouthless moth, man. Like it's gonna,

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we're gonna expire one day. And so, you know, you can try to seek.

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An abundance of comfort. I suppose that's human nature, isn't it?

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Like we do all this discomfortability stuff to maybe one day attain something

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that can provide comfort.

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But will we even take it when we get it it's like what does the the path to comfort,

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take over path to comfort which is probably being uncomfortable and being comfortable

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being uncomfortable well i guess the time make you a,

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conquistador.

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Um i just used a word of like you know the kind of person who like gets good

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at like accomplishing difficult things and and Embracing discomfort Um,

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Is capable of creating comfort for themselves, but maybe they get addicted to

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the process. Well, yeah. And they just can never really feel comfortable being

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comfortable. Yeah, I mean.

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I don't know. Comfort is, I mean, ultimately, right? It's kind of nice from

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time to time. It's what you, I mean, you should probably be seeking. Like.

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There's a balance of life, right? At the end of, like, that is a goal.

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But. Do all of this so I can be comfortable one day? yeah but you know obviously

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you want to have some level of comfort along the way but to,

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become stagnant in that comfort right like i think that's more of what the issue

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is especially when it comes to like jujitsu if you become stagnant you're,

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you're not gonna learn anything new you yeah you will start to lag behind your peers um.

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You won't get better because you're doing the same thing, only the same thing.

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And maybe you're not trying to improve in that thing. Like if you're,

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if you are comfortable in what

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you're doing, you're probably not taking steps to improve those tasks.

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So you may be like, Oh, I do, I do X, Y, and Z move. And that's what I do.

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It works for now. So I'll just do that. And I don't need to get better.

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I don't even really need to practice it.

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I mean, obviously if you're doing it a lot, you are kind of practicing it,

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but like you're not adapting it to other things.

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You might be willing, you know, like, oh, I'll just roll with this guy because

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I know I can beat this guy, you know, training partner, my training partner,

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Bob, I can beat him every day.

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So I'll just, he'll be my training partner. I'll roll with him only and I'll

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just keep beating him. And I don't really need to get better.

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I can just keep doing what I'm doing and it's fine. Um, yeah.

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Versus like oh i'm gonna go try to there's this guy who's better than me and

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is you know i'm i see like you're the blue belt there's this brown belt over

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there and i'm gonna go try to roll with this brown belt,

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and if you had only been doing the same thing with partner bob this whole time

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and you go try to do that same thing to this brown belt now like yeah probably

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not gonna work right because you just it's not that game doesn't work that way

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right so comfort is like a uh,

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like a temptress, like a siren to use, like the Odyssey analogy.

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I haven't seen yet. I want to.

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Yeah, it's beckoning you. You're on those, like, you're on the boat. You're tired.

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Everything's been tough and difficult for a long time. You hear this sweet,

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sweet voice beckoning you. You're like, what is that? That sounds so nice. Like comfort. Oh, yeah.

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And then you get there and it kind of destroys you, I suppose.

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But yeah, yeah, yeah. I joke, but maybe there's something to it. Yeah.

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She makes you stay there until you drown, I believe. I think that's how it is.

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Yeah, all right. Yeah, so don't do that.

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They spike in you to the rock, and then the waves come and take you away. Then you get smushed.

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Your ship runs into the rocks or whatever. It's catastrophic is the point.

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It's terrible. Yeah, but yeah, maybe that's an extraordinary metaphor.

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But I suppose too much comfort is probably a bad thing.

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I think you want, like, there's got to be some balance.

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Before the episode I was saying this is going to be a conversation about chaos

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and order the dichotomy of the two because you probably should seek some healthy

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appropriate balance in everyone's,

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continuum for this might be a little different but what amount of like comfort

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in training or life or whatever um keeps you sustained,

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while you also with the right amount of your scales of,

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comfort discomfort here um yeah i'm not gonna spend time i'm not gonna give

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anyone advice i don't know on their life side of things but we can talk about

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the jiu-jitsu side of it sure i was just you know you know whatever um whatever you're uh,

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yeah that's fine um relegated this we're gonna we're gonna talk about jujitsu

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but anyways um yeah like i mean i like having some split between some comfort

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and and discomfort to keep me uh.

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Developing as a human being yeah i mean in in And more than one.

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Arena of my life. But yeah. Yeah, for sure. And jujitsu, yes,

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of course. Interestingly, it mirrors the same. Well, I'm just saying,

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I'm personally not going to give anyone a fan bias. We're not.

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I would agree. We're talking about a concept that can apply to a lot of things,

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Michael. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Michael? I mean, like, yeah, I do enjoy a level of comfort in my daily personal life.

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But there is something nice about, like.

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I don't know, the hard thing. You've got to quest.

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The hard path, right? Like, very easily, like, I mean, I could have very easily,

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like, stayed at my job, collected the paycheck, even though,

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like, it wasn't really challenging me anymore, right?

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Like, and, you know, just, you could do that, and that's fine.

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Sometimes it is the right answer, right? Like, for some people,

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that might be the better thing to do.

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So, like, I'm not, that's why I'm saying, like, I'm not going to tell you to be, to change that.

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Yeah. we're not telling you to quit your job yeah but for me right like i i

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just you know like that wasn't fulfilling so i was like oh i'm gonna i'm gonna

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pursue this i'm gonna go change the path pursue this other thing because like that that,

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making that portion of things uncomfortable right like,

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let's do something different let's chase this let's try to make this other thing

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work like that for me was stimulating same thing in jujitsu right like you could very easily.

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Keep doing the same thing every day and there is a level of that that's necessary

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in jujitsu and for some people that that,

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aspect of it of like the constant right some for some people the constant and

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the control is what they need and that's okay as well but for other people to achieve their goals,

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they might need to have that mix up maybe they need to do open mats maybe they need to have,

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constant difference in the training sessions right um.

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I guess that's what I'm getting at with that dichotomy. I'm picking up what

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you're putting down. I liked it. I liked what you did there.

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With the dichotomy you're talking about there, right? Yes.

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There is a call to adventure that.

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Every time you try to bring it solely back to Jiu-Jitsu, I'm going to pull you

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right back into the waters of, no, let's make it about everything.

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I'm going to talk about Conquistadors, Odyssey.

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I might. Scott's very into Conquistadors right now.

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I'm reading a lot of books. and it's interesting stuff yeah,

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sure yeah yeah you you you're right i am but uh anyways yeah dude yeah it's

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a little call to adventure is is it's good for you it's not for everybody like you said but um,

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there's um i we can we'll call it skill development yeah we'll call it skill

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development of uh uh which is directly applicable to jiu-jitsu but,

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it still allows me the leeway to take it in whatever direction I want.

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Mike. I'll let you do that. Thanks, buddy.

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I'll allow you. So the skill development aspect of doing that,

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kind of like chasing a quest.

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You're like Frodo taking the ring to Mordor, dude. You'll meet some interesting

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people along the way. You'll meet some allies. You'll form some enemies.

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It's good for you. It's a good story. What stories?

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There are no cool stories about someone who just was constantly having comfort, in my opinion.

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Like, going, don't get me wrong. Like, I like nice, I like the luxuries,

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the finer things in life as much, if not more, than the next person.

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However, in my opinion, I find that they're much more rewarding when balanced

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with, like, of everything we are talking about, too.

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So, in my opinion. So, I do, and I believe, like you said earlier,

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there is this right balance for an individual. And...

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Training way yeah sure training it's in training yeah like have some comfortable

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days have some have have more uncomfortable days and comfortable days in my

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opinion and and and also in my opinion um,

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what you'll notice when you do that is that like what was once uncomfortable

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starts to become comfortable so it's just sort of having an attitude it's a

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lot like what we talked about john earlier where it's like things will change,

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and like if you're like man i don't if you're like self-aware and if you if

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you yearn for that like challenge,

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um you'll always you'll you'll be like you'll you'll be,

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keen enough with your your your two eyes your two ears and your third eye or

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whatever like your awareness your mind to know when you're like all right i

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kind of feel like things are,

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i i you maybe you're plateauing on something and then maybe it's like you know

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jump to the next quest, jump to the next jiu-jitsu move or the next jiu-jitsu

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challenge or whatever, life challenge.

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But yeah, dude, like if you're – some people –,

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myself included, just find crazy shit to get involved in, um.

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Um, all the time to keep that like thirst for like the next thing,

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the, the more, you know, the, the exciting new challenging thing.

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Um, and, um, everyone's different, but, uh, you know, it's, it does help that

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we are competitors cause that's

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inherently like a quest challenging thing that you're like, all right.

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And, you know, like when anyone listening, like if you're a white belt,

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a blue belt, a purple belt, a brown belt, or even a black belt,

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like there's always going to be like a new, like level of the game,

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a new stage you get to play in. So you, this is the nice thing about,

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I'm bringing it back to jujitsu.

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The nice thing about this, this realm that we're in, this martial art,

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this sport, I mean, whether you're competing or not, but the competition thing

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just makes it so simple for you to be like, oh, this is my adventure.

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This is like my new tough thing.

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It's like done for you. You just got to show up and you got to prepare.

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You got to do all the work.

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But like you just have to be like oh I just my job is to try to keep winning

00:16:39.846 --> 00:16:42.986
and try to get better at this thing so it's like it's kind of like that's why

00:16:42.986 --> 00:16:48.286
I like it so much it's just like this is there it's like this is the thing this thing um,

00:16:48.738 --> 00:16:52.456
gives me that challenge and allows me to ask those questions and then kind of

00:16:52.456 --> 00:16:56.046
gets you in that position to ask this comfort versus discomfort thing so I would

00:16:56.046 --> 00:16:58.826
imagine a lot of people don't even think about it Mike well and you can you

00:16:58.826 --> 00:17:02.392
can even think about it is not necessarily,

00:17:03.175 --> 00:17:05.108
discomfort or being uncomfortable.

00:17:07.105 --> 00:17:13.366
But more of like seeking a challenge because obviously like in your brain you're

00:17:13.366 --> 00:17:16.196
not going to want to seek discomfort, right? Well, you know what I mean?

00:17:16.196 --> 00:17:17.607
Oh, we're like hardwired to avoid it.

00:17:17.723 --> 00:17:23.536
So like if you can almost like rewire your thinking and be like,

00:17:23.536 --> 00:17:25.416
oh, well, I'm not uncomfortable.

00:17:25.416 --> 00:17:28.506
This is just like obviously like this is challenging. It's like a trick you

00:17:28.506 --> 00:17:30.436
have to put on yourself. But yeah, I know what you're saying.

00:17:30.436 --> 00:17:34.447
And so you, and yeah, like if you have you,

00:17:35.914 --> 00:17:41.631
If you are constantly like seeking more ways to challenge yourself,

00:17:41.631 --> 00:17:46.001
you will be uncomfortable in a lot of those scenarios, which is,

00:17:46.001 --> 00:17:48.731
you know, that's, that is what we are talking about.

00:17:48.731 --> 00:17:52.174
That is what you need to do to improve. That's what you need to do to get better.

00:17:53.917 --> 00:17:57.131
Or at least to like find out what you need to do to get better,

00:17:57.131 --> 00:18:02.061
right? Like maybe, maybe the, you don't directly learn from those uncomfortable

00:18:02.061 --> 00:18:05.661
situations. Like that's not directly what improves.

00:18:06.101 --> 00:18:10.368
I mean, in a lot of them in jujitsu, like just doing a competition will just

00:18:10.512 --> 00:18:12.330
make you better sometimes.

00:18:13.902 --> 00:18:18.821
But maybe that's not the thing that directly makes you better.

00:18:18.821 --> 00:18:24.801
But that one challenging or that moment of discomfort, you can bring that back

00:18:24.801 --> 00:18:29.321
to like your bastion of comfortability and improve there.

00:18:29.321 --> 00:18:34.910
Right. So you have to have those moments, that discomfort, that challenge,

00:18:35.137 --> 00:18:37.557
and take it and bring that home.

00:18:38.421 --> 00:18:42.441
Maybe be a little more comfortable, and maybe that's where you can improve on

00:18:42.441 --> 00:18:51.199
it. Because not everybody can do that immediately in the uncomfortable setting. Some people can't.

00:18:51.726 --> 00:18:57.401
I mean, like I know personally, like I actually do better in that setting for

00:18:57.401 --> 00:19:00.120
like, I mean, we've talked about it where.

00:19:01.416 --> 00:19:06.865
I actually can improve better on the moment, in the moment, like when it's direct

00:19:06.865 --> 00:19:10.945
feedback right away and can take that in Chicago.

00:19:11.245 --> 00:19:15.285
Yeah, like Chicago, right? Like, all right, this is what happened. Let's adjust right now.

00:19:15.605 --> 00:19:19.963
And that's better for me versus like, well, if I take that and go back,

00:19:20.793 --> 00:19:23.685
take that data, go home, use it there.

00:19:24.065 --> 00:19:28.705
And like once all that time, you know, just you kind of, you can get back into

00:19:28.705 --> 00:19:34.875
the regular flow And then it doesn't really, that situation never arises in that setting.

00:19:34.875 --> 00:19:38.525
And so then you never get to address it. Right. So for some people,

00:19:39.045 --> 00:19:42.365
maybe they are good at that or it also probably depends on what's there.

00:19:42.505 --> 00:19:44.445
Well, I think what you're describing is pretty common. Like it's,

00:19:44.445 --> 00:19:49.245
it's, yeah, that's, that, that's, it's, it's, um, I don't want to call it a

00:19:49.245 --> 00:19:52.055
pitfall, but it's, it's, it's an easy thing to kind of fall back on.

00:19:52.055 --> 00:19:53.567
Like what you said, like just what you've been doing.

00:19:53.938 --> 00:19:56.885
Um, so yeah, to your point, like that immediate opportunity,

00:19:56.885 --> 00:19:58.835
like right away, like, all right, all right, this thing just happened.

00:19:58.835 --> 00:20:01.205
We talked about it. I'm going to make a decision right now. I'm going to do

00:20:01.205 --> 00:20:03.185
it differently. And then you get another chance right away. So that's,

00:20:03.354 --> 00:20:06.082
that is a really good setting to, to do what you talked about.

00:20:06.488 --> 00:20:10.912
And, and that's not always the case, right? You don't always get that opportunity to, to your point.

00:20:11.394 --> 00:20:14.765
Um, but I, I did want to respond to what you were saying earlier about like,

00:20:14.765 --> 00:20:18.853
just like the competition experience or opportunity to, um, um.

00:20:20.310 --> 00:20:25.413
To extract some, some things you can work on and, and, and kind of like maximizing,

00:20:25.726 --> 00:20:30.606
excuse me, squeezing or maximizing the, the value of it, taking all the opportunities,

00:20:31.396 --> 00:20:35.342
out of that, that moment, that experience that day or a couple of days or,

00:20:35.342 --> 00:20:37.949
you know, a couple of minutes or whatever it is at a tournament.

00:20:38.374 --> 00:20:42.792
It's like, um, it's like a good, like compass to a good opportunity to kind

00:20:42.792 --> 00:20:48.463
of set an aim for like a true North where you're like, all right, well, to your point it um,

00:20:49.734 --> 00:20:54.502
i i do think even just doing it will get if even if you're not trying if you're

00:20:54.502 --> 00:20:57.742
not hub if you're not doing all of the work to get the most out of the experience

00:20:57.742 --> 00:21:00.822
it's still you'll still you can't not get better from doing it in my opinion

00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:03.137
um barring some extraordinary like.

00:21:05.064 --> 00:21:10.852
Life-altering injuries and shit like that but putting that even yeah let's just

00:21:10.852 --> 00:21:14.701
let's just say there's other things to be gained from that but yeah perhaps perhaps yeah um but,

00:21:15.526 --> 00:21:19.852
um just going and doing it and kind of like getting that it's like it's thought-provoking

00:21:19.852 --> 00:21:24.452
to to go into it's it's new experience right it's good for your um your mind

00:21:24.452 --> 00:21:28.342
and your body to like go out and do a challenging thing in any case um if you

00:21:28.342 --> 00:21:29.566
want to take it a step further

00:21:29.978 --> 00:21:33.052
it what i like about it is to your point earlier it's sort of like you don't

00:21:33.052 --> 00:21:35.842
always know what you're going to get out of the competition sometimes everything

00:21:35.842 --> 00:21:39.092
goes great and that and that can that's good too like everything goes perfectly

00:21:39.092 --> 00:21:41.722
like that's I mean that's that's really good like we want our people to go out there and,

00:21:42.308 --> 00:21:44.183
like slam dunk smash people and win like,

00:21:44.787 --> 00:21:48.356
um when that happens awesome doesn't always happen of course um,

00:21:49.222 --> 00:21:51.712
or sometimes you have like a an okay win you're like all right man I think I

00:21:51.712 --> 00:21:53.924
can do a little bit better than that but like whatever the outcome is,

00:21:54.388 --> 00:21:58.402
you should be able to walk home with a couple sometimes it's like questions

00:21:58.402 --> 00:22:01.212
sometimes it's like oh I didn't realize this was a question I should be answering

00:22:01.652 --> 00:22:06.463
I wasn't expecting x y and z or maybe you did expect certain things and just didn't quite,

00:22:07.060 --> 00:22:10.522
get what you wanted out of it but like at least in that realm you're like aware

00:22:10.522 --> 00:22:15.814
that this is the thread that I should be thinking about in training but to either however you spin it.

00:22:16.992 --> 00:22:19.977
You should return from that experience with,

00:22:20.910 --> 00:22:23.795
You know, not too many, because, like, for the purpose of what we're talking

00:22:23.795 --> 00:22:25.515
about here, and we've talked about this in the podcast before,

00:22:25.515 --> 00:22:28.765
you know, in my opinion, I prefer, I think, like, less is more a lot of times.

00:22:28.765 --> 00:22:34.275
Like, I try to keep, like, lessons and takeaways, like, two to three things.

00:22:34.275 --> 00:22:36.605
Yeah. Because I think anything more than that can be a little bit too much to

00:22:36.605 --> 00:22:38.016
think about at any given time.

00:22:38.289 --> 00:22:43.655
Maybe that's my own limitation there. But if you get, like, two solid working

00:22:43.655 --> 00:22:46.509
actionable items out of that, like, that's going to inform you.

00:22:46.822 --> 00:22:49.775
Because I do think there's like a process to this of like it's not just the

00:22:49.775 --> 00:22:52.185
competition and doing talking about what we're talking about it's actually like

00:22:52.185 --> 00:22:55.286
implementing it as well like giving yourself the homework to say all right like,

00:22:55.872 --> 00:22:59.872
we're gonna not do guard like this we're not do whatever like we're not gonna,

00:23:00.650 --> 00:23:05.369
get caught in a leg lock so then if you have fewer objectives as a takeaway,

00:23:05.840 --> 00:23:09.045
um I find that it then becomes a little bit easier to implement that as a plan

00:23:09.045 --> 00:23:10.663
for training so that you do,

00:23:11.308 --> 00:23:15.621
further get the most out of that competition experience by actually taking it and working on it,

00:23:16.225 --> 00:23:21.435
yeah um and like you said that like two to three things right if if you come

00:23:21.435 --> 00:23:25.819
away and you just and you just pick apart your entire match and like,

00:23:26.405 --> 00:23:30.509
hyper focus on the like every single little detail you're like well i need to

00:23:30.869 --> 00:23:33.615
do this on my feet i need to do this on i need to do this in this exchange this

00:23:33.615 --> 00:23:36.117
in this exchange this and like then you'll just get,

00:23:36.889 --> 00:23:40.195
there's too many things right yeah you're not going to get better at any of

00:23:40.195 --> 00:23:43.141
those things so if you pick like You're saying the big...

00:23:44.232 --> 00:23:49.109
Moments the like or just the ones that you felt were the most critical sure

00:23:49.312 --> 00:23:53.130
like maybe the biggest red flag so to speak you pick your two or three critical

00:23:53.130 --> 00:23:56.005
moments because like sometimes there's going to be stuff where it's like,

00:23:56.504 --> 00:24:01.830
oh like i got armbar i should armbar escape more maybe that's not the maybe

00:24:01.830 --> 00:24:04.240
we need to work on just like we like you know,

00:24:04.900 --> 00:24:08.600
don't be there um you know like maybe you work on,

00:24:09.542 --> 00:24:14.320
the other things that are just like broader to your game right like Like,

00:24:14.320 --> 00:24:17.900
hey, like, maybe we work on the position prior to that armbar,

00:24:17.900 --> 00:24:19.974
not the actual armbar escapes, because, like,

00:24:20.607 --> 00:24:23.080
you don't have to armbar escape if you aren't in armbars, right?

00:24:23.420 --> 00:24:24.720
That's true. No, no, yeah, you're right.

00:24:25.120 --> 00:24:27.512
So maybe you look, hey, I'm always in this position.

00:24:28.174 --> 00:24:29.270
These are the things that normally

00:24:29.270 --> 00:24:33.660
happen to me here that lead to those submission attempts even, right?

00:24:34.967 --> 00:24:40.865
Let's work on that the arm bars are gonna happen if it's too late like it's too late it's too late so,

00:24:41.573 --> 00:24:45.880
you did you made mistakes prior to that that like all right let's find the moment

00:24:46.136 --> 00:24:49.517
let's find that turning point that tipping point that led to the thing yeah

00:24:49.957 --> 00:24:54.930
and let's put ourselves there over and over and over again um sometimes it is,

00:24:55.638 --> 00:24:59.617
hey this guy uh it always happens because someone throws up the triangle and

00:24:59.957 --> 00:25:04.636
i don't i make this adjustment every time and they switch to the arm bar yeah,

00:25:05.101 --> 00:25:09.197
maybe all right well let's go to that triangle and let's fix that escape maybe

00:25:09.197 --> 00:25:13.297
that is the answer right but yeah well to your point there's there's some discernment

00:25:13.297 --> 00:25:16.017
like like you said from like looking at some data,

00:25:16.497 --> 00:25:18.377
or video or whatever and then like you gotta like,

00:25:18.992 --> 00:25:22.397
this i think kind of speaks to like having a good team around you a good coach

00:25:22.397 --> 00:25:25.660
a good program like in the right set and setting to be able to like actually,

00:25:26.443 --> 00:25:30.117
work on some of these adjustments but i'm we're on the same page insofar as like you,

00:25:30.737 --> 00:25:33.877
could because you know you will you'll watch a video and you yeah if you if

00:25:33.877 --> 00:25:37.084
you're looking for 50 things you'll find 50 things that you can do differently

00:25:37.316 --> 00:25:41.817
and maybe as time goes on that's okay too like if you're not a if you're not

00:25:41.817 --> 00:25:44.845
a competitor who's doing five to eight to ten,

00:25:45.391 --> 00:25:48.015
tournaments a year let's say you do one but that one.

00:25:49.124 --> 00:25:53.019
Six-minute match could be really informative for you throughout an entire year potentially,

00:25:53.931 --> 00:25:59.729
either way you want to use that footage and find four things or 40 things it's,

00:26:00.289 --> 00:26:02.779
and i think and you can tell me if you disagree but i think we're on the same

00:26:02.779 --> 00:26:06.127
page and so far as saying like whatever the amount of takeaways is like it's

00:26:06.348 --> 00:26:10.736
best to at least start and implement maybe just like a couple things two three things because like,

00:26:11.183 --> 00:26:16.039
in my opinion um that workflow of making those adjustments it's not a like one

00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:19.209
and done thing right it's like it needs to become a habit for a little while

00:26:19.209 --> 00:26:22.037
until you going back to the comfort discomfort thing like it may be,

00:26:22.728 --> 00:26:25.809
uh we'll just i'll just use the example you said not even you know let's just

00:26:25.809 --> 00:26:29.679
say that the the one of the takeaways was arm bar escapes rather than prevention

00:26:29.679 --> 00:26:31.650
because i agree with you on prevention but either way,

00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:36.629
if it's just to pick a specific thing sometimes it is that yes well i'm just

00:26:36.629 --> 00:26:38.229
agreeing yeah yeah yeah but,

00:26:38.789 --> 00:26:42.976
let's say it was that like you know you you you have that conversation with your coach,

00:26:43.551 --> 00:26:47.504
you agree we're both on the same page that I should be doing some homework on,

00:26:48.108 --> 00:26:50.168
armbar escapes and defense,

00:26:50.830 --> 00:26:55.648
and um which by the way is still a rather broad um category in and of itself

00:26:55.793 --> 00:26:59.769
nonetheless you say all right cool like you know I'm gonna be through Monday

00:26:59.769 --> 00:27:04.965
through Saturday or whatever it is my training protocols my weekly schedule um and.

00:27:06.154 --> 00:27:08.501
A lot of that's going to be going to classes where there's an agenda already

00:27:08.501 --> 00:27:11.371
cooked in, but like, you know, I'm going to look at my schedule and find some

00:27:11.371 --> 00:27:14.871
time for some open drilling where I can really just focus on this thing.

00:27:14.871 --> 00:27:17.661
But like my point being like you got, you're going to have an action plan that

00:27:17.661 --> 00:27:21.861
you can employ and you should maybe try more than once a week,

00:27:21.861 --> 00:27:25.411
but even just once a week is still, it's better than a lot of people in terms of doing this stuff.

00:27:25.411 --> 00:27:27.231
Cause a lot of people talk about this stuff. A lot of people don't actually

00:27:27.231 --> 00:27:29.981
make the implement, they don't implement the adjustments, but if you're setting

00:27:29.981 --> 00:27:32.601
aside a little block of time once a week, it's not a ton of time,

00:27:32.601 --> 00:27:35.911
but it's not nothing and it will help, but you need to do that for several weeks.

00:27:35.911 --> 00:27:39.771
If not several months before you begin to notice the adjustment like one drilling

00:27:39.771 --> 00:27:45.343
session of a thing it's not enough if you want to truly make that improvement,

00:27:45.917 --> 00:27:48.011
and i'm not saying it needs to be it's like a life sentence i'm not saying you're

00:27:48.011 --> 00:27:51.181
going to be doing this for six years and then after six years you might notice

00:27:51.181 --> 00:27:54.721
that your armbar defense has gotten better it'll hopefully be quicker than that maybe it's like six.

00:27:55.977 --> 00:28:01.461
Six weeks to to three months just as an example but all of that going back to

00:28:01.461 --> 00:28:03.942
like the action plan of of falling up on,

00:28:04.701 --> 00:28:07.781
a tournament and footage and videos it's like you need to give yourself that

00:28:07.781 --> 00:28:11.561
time that's why we agree like we want fewer adjustments for our students so

00:28:11.561 --> 00:28:14.931
it's like they're given the right they're given an opportunity to actually work

00:28:14.931 --> 00:28:17.531
those adjustments if we were serious as coaches which you know,

00:28:18.421 --> 00:28:21.367
i'd like to think we were in that conversation this hypothetical conversation,

00:28:22.058 --> 00:28:23.661
to then give that person the ability

00:28:24.101 --> 00:28:28.731
to work on it so that when whether it's in the training room or the next tournament

00:28:28.731 --> 00:28:32.621
six months later 12 months slate or whatever they notice that they're they're

00:28:32.621 --> 00:28:35.061
more confident they're more comfortable there because they did that work

00:28:35.496 --> 00:28:40.591
and then perhaps or alongside that you can maybe cascade and kind of stack stuff

00:28:40.591 --> 00:28:43.467
as someone starts to develop proficiency you could take the next lesson,

00:28:44.036 --> 00:28:47.193
and then you can keep getting value out of that video as time goes on if that's

00:28:47.542 --> 00:28:50.511
you know things change in jiu-jitsu like you'll do this stuff and your match

00:28:50.511 --> 00:28:53.801
from six months ago that you're like dude like that scorched like we were talking

00:28:53.801 --> 00:28:55.007
to john it's like it's scorched memory

00:28:55.373 --> 00:28:58.091
i don't want to look at it it's like it sticks with the person but like after

00:28:58.091 --> 00:28:59.621
a while they'll get over it and they'll be like, all right, well,

00:28:59.621 --> 00:29:03.541
now the new thing that I got fucked up with was what? Your attention will shift.

00:29:04.081 --> 00:29:07.087
But it's a good habit either way. Yeah, I mean, so...

00:29:08.023 --> 00:29:12.725
I do this with my, there's an exercise I do with my like, well,

00:29:12.725 --> 00:29:16.207
one of the competitors, but also with the private, like the guys that do private lessons for.

00:29:18.121 --> 00:29:22.415
So whenever I get, have someone new that I start working with for that,

00:29:22.415 --> 00:29:26.205
I always ask them like, where do you normally get caught? Where are you,

00:29:26.205 --> 00:29:29.714
where you get stuck in your roles, right?

00:29:30.243 --> 00:29:35.171
What are the, what are the positions or the tasks or whatever that like,

00:29:35.496 --> 00:29:37.405
you just find yourself not knowing what to do?

00:29:37.405 --> 00:29:41.055
All right cool that's what we're gonna work on the private lesson but you know

00:29:41.055 --> 00:29:46.205
that's however you know that's only a couple sessions a week or one session

00:29:46.205 --> 00:29:48.593
a week whatever that frequency might be,

00:29:49.068 --> 00:29:56.272
so i'll tell them because this is something that i do for myself which is give yourself a quota on,

00:29:56.911 --> 00:30:01.265
you know the number of times you hit that in you know you do this this complete

00:30:01.265 --> 00:30:05.575
this task within a role you're recording within a period of time you're seeing

00:30:05.575 --> 00:30:08.095
you're like oh i did it once this week, I did it zero times because I'm still

00:30:08.095 --> 00:30:10.035
new at it, but then like time goes on, you're like, oh, I'm hitting it.

00:30:10.035 --> 00:30:13.447
I'm actually achieving goal three, four, five, like you're quantifying.

00:30:13.726 --> 00:30:18.144
Yeah. That's good. But then beyond like you have to take it in,

00:30:18.840 --> 00:30:23.405
in some cases, because you have however much time you spend on the mats in a

00:30:23.405 --> 00:30:26.325
week or in a month or whatever, and you're like, oh.

00:30:27.374 --> 00:30:31.550
If you just go and just like freestyle it every time that you have open rolling

00:30:31.550 --> 00:30:35.680
sessions, like when you have the time for open rolling, you're going to end

00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:39.332
up just doing whatever. And then maybe you, I mean, yeah, rolling's fun. I get it.

00:30:39.651 --> 00:30:43.480
But maybe you've achieved, you haven't done anything, right?

00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:48.144
Like, yeah, maybe you tapped the dude out, but like, have you done anything that made you better?

00:30:48.318 --> 00:30:51.780
I get what you're saying. And so you can reframe, if you take it and you reframe

00:30:51.780 --> 00:30:54.994
like your goals during rolling, like if there is something that you,

00:30:55.232 --> 00:30:56.990
if you just want to have fun, cool, just go have fun.

00:30:56.990 --> 00:30:58.840
There's nothing wrong with that. That's perfectly fine with me.

00:30:58.840 --> 00:31:01.220
We've talked about this a bunch of times, but I like this.

00:31:01.220 --> 00:31:07.640
Continue. But if you reframe that thought process of the purpose of these roles.

00:31:09.120 --> 00:31:13.272
And you say, well, I'm working on, and we'll keep using armbar escapes,

00:31:14.131 --> 00:31:17.340
then this one's actually kind of fun because it's going to be extra uncomfortable to do in a role.

00:31:17.900 --> 00:31:24.500
If I'm working on armbar escapes, I need to put myself in position to escape armbars in these roles.

00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:28.350
Which means what, Mike? Which means I need to lose these roles,

00:31:28.350 --> 00:31:32.500
right? I'll be tapping quite a bit. Like you are going to give arm bars to your

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:34.510
training partner. And you know what? That's great. They're going to get a lot

00:31:34.510 --> 00:31:35.740
of reps arm barring you. That's right.

00:31:36.060 --> 00:31:40.240
And that's like we talked, like I think we've talked about this on Ego episodes.

00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:45.080
That's really hard to do to be like, I'm going to just, here you go, beat me.

00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.670
I'm kind of allowing you to beat me. Yeah. And so you have to like,

00:31:48.670 --> 00:31:51.254
one, break that mental barrier.

00:31:51.614 --> 00:31:55.750
But you know if you can go and just say like i am going to be put in this i

00:31:55.750 --> 00:31:59.330
did this with triangles personally because i got triangle to shit time when

00:31:59.330 --> 00:32:02.440
i first came back to jujitsu i used to i mean it's just the way that i do jujitsu

00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:04.640
i think i'm very head forward yeah,

00:32:05.280 --> 00:32:08.280
and so i just was like fuck it i'm just gonna get triangled a lot and i'm just

00:32:08.280 --> 00:32:12.330
gonna try to escape triangles until i was escaping triangles all the time yeah

00:32:12.330 --> 00:32:16.104
um same thing with like guillotines just gotta get guillotined a lot and so

00:32:16.418 --> 00:32:18.252
you have to be willing to just,

00:32:18.815 --> 00:32:22.403
tap out a lot get put in these bad positions a lot and like.

00:32:23.865 --> 00:32:26.699
Well, give him, you got to give him up. And same thing if it's escapes,

00:32:26.699 --> 00:32:29.959
if you want to escape, you got to put yourself in position to escape.

00:32:29.959 --> 00:32:32.269
It's like allowing yourself to lose a battle to win the war.

00:32:32.289 --> 00:32:36.719
Yeah. But I think it comes from, um, like the core of this conversation and

00:32:36.719 --> 00:32:40.789
a bit of what we've touched upon around it, which is in my opinion,

00:32:40.789 --> 00:32:42.272
like when I hear these things and,

00:32:43.009 --> 00:32:48.679
um, I think it speaks to like you or whoever in this case, like having like

00:32:48.679 --> 00:32:50.839
a, a true, like challenging goal.

00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:54.979
Like your goal is like hey like this is all and the reason why i like all this

00:32:54.979 --> 00:32:59.209
stuff too is i think it just it brings in an added degree of purpose and value

00:32:59.209 --> 00:33:05.568
behind how you train because you know that each session where you spend time doing that,

00:33:06.444 --> 00:33:10.414
um more difficult challenging thing where like yeah like you said like you're basically.

00:33:11.348 --> 00:33:15.789
Consenting to putting yourself in like a losing scenario over and over again

00:33:16.126 --> 00:33:19.089
in a game where the purpose isn't to lose it's to win but like you know like

00:33:19.089 --> 00:33:21.077
temporarily like i might have to take some l's,

00:33:21.658 --> 00:33:26.279
um to master this skill set that in the big picture will make me a more competent

00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:32.577
and effective competitor to ultimately win my big picture game my big picture goal of like,

00:33:33.082 --> 00:33:36.369
winning some titles hitting some gold medals like you know like winning winning

00:33:36.369 --> 00:33:40.219
a game winning winning the tournaments competing and winning um which is you

00:33:40.229 --> 00:33:42.739
know we've talked so many times this is why we like that stuff because i do

00:33:42.739 --> 00:33:45.412
think it makes it gets people thinking about,

00:33:45.998 --> 00:33:49.419
it gets you out of the world of what you said earlier of just kind of like winging

00:33:49.419 --> 00:33:52.429
it and training which again like for a lot of people that's totally fine but just for,

00:33:53.189 --> 00:33:57.599
the for the few the proud the brave the marines for the few the proud the people

00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:02.069
who in in in the this are listeners the people in the realm of jiu-jitsu who

00:34:02.069 --> 00:34:04.919
are like kind of feel that like a little call to adventure to go compete and

00:34:04.919 --> 00:34:07.260
like they want to win they want to do good they want to get the most out of,

00:34:07.869 --> 00:34:12.722
um this short life and this short window of like fun jiu-jitsu to,

00:34:13.333 --> 00:34:15.172
competitive careers we make for ourselves.

00:34:16.914 --> 00:34:20.990
If you want to do well at that. I mean, your attitude towards how you want to

00:34:20.990 --> 00:34:22.620
treat your competition is completely up to you too.

00:34:22.620 --> 00:34:25.030
Like some people are like, I think I can win multiple world championships.

00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:27.900
So it's going to be a hard goal and it's, that's going to make you very uncomfortable

00:34:27.900 --> 00:34:31.200
because you're going to have to do the, like a lot of what we're talking about.

00:34:31.200 --> 00:34:35.043
Like this has to be how you, your attitude toward training has to be very purposeful.

00:34:35.304 --> 00:34:37.780
It's going to be a lot of, you can't wing it. If you're like,

00:34:37.780 --> 00:34:39.914
I want to be a world champion, you just, you just won't work.

00:34:40.041 --> 00:34:43.440
Winging and training doesn't, unless, unless you have like a rare day off like

00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.560
a quote-unquote day off where your day off is really your training because you

00:34:47.560 --> 00:34:49.643
just can't help it but one this is a good way to actually

00:34:50.003 --> 00:34:52.590
if you're going to be a world champion like that you should be willing to be

00:34:52.590 --> 00:34:55.517
on the mat all the fucking time yeah and there may be days where like.

00:34:56.260 --> 00:34:58.270
You know if you have a good program you've talked to your coach where it's like

00:34:58.270 --> 00:35:01.560
you were four days on full clip intensity and then like that one day off can

00:35:01.560 --> 00:35:05.150
be a winging it like there's a way to do that too but your entirety of your

00:35:05.150 --> 00:35:10.569
training can't just be show up and just do whatever um if you have a purpose of needing to be,

00:35:11.108 --> 00:35:15.720
tight on important skills that prior competitions have informed you that you

00:35:15.720 --> 00:35:19.420
either weren't there or you needed more of it and going into your next tournament

00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:22.910
you you owe it to yourself to do a better job because you're just kind of failing

00:35:22.910 --> 00:35:25.476
on yourself and you choose to just fuck around and then show up to the tournament,

00:35:26.045 --> 00:35:29.530
basically fucking around again if you're not doing that homework so there is

00:35:29.530 --> 00:35:33.000
i mean this is my way of kind of like speaking out i don't know my psychology

00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.280
on how we think about it i imagine and this resonates, right?

00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:37.220
Yeah. It makes sense, right? Yeah.

00:35:37.240 --> 00:35:40.030
Like, you're obviously, like, committed. You talked about it.

00:35:40.030 --> 00:35:42.107
Like, you chose to do this, so you care.

00:35:42.629 --> 00:35:44.900
And you're like, yo, I want to get the best out of my career.

00:35:44.900 --> 00:35:46.275
So, like, I'm going to think more.

00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.390
I'm going to try a little bit. I'm going to write down stuff.

00:35:48.390 --> 00:35:51.490
Like, how many, I didn't write down how many fucking rear naked chokes I got

00:35:51.490 --> 00:35:54.181
this morning when I did back mount drill. It was a decent amount. It was a decent amount.

00:35:54.842 --> 00:35:57.576
That's i'm impressed i maybe i'll do that like that's i like that you do that

00:35:57.576 --> 00:36:00.336
um because it's a good attention to detail because like you fucking care and

00:36:00.336 --> 00:36:03.646
you should um because again we're gonna die one day it's a pretty cool thing

00:36:03.646 --> 00:36:07.437
so let's let's do our best you know let's do our best while we're here um.

00:36:08.285 --> 00:36:11.946
And and we're kind of this is a fun conversation for a lot of reasons because

00:36:11.946 --> 00:36:14.236
we're talking a lot about like little tactical things but i also think there's

00:36:14.236 --> 00:36:18.366
a lot on process too like what you just described like individuals and we all

00:36:18.366 --> 00:36:20.786
have like different little skill sets like i work with kate as you know yeah

00:36:21.146 --> 00:36:23.186
she's really detailed she writes a lot of stuff down too.

00:36:23.186 --> 00:36:28.326
She's like a note taker, detail oriented, data, data, data. And I admire people who do that.

00:36:28.666 --> 00:36:31.376
I try to do a better job of that stuff. I've gotten much better about it in

00:36:31.376 --> 00:36:34.766
my career, but it's not my natural thing. I'm very like, I kind of like gut

00:36:34.766 --> 00:36:36.606
measure things very well.

00:36:37.386 --> 00:36:41.286
I don't like personally write all this stuff down. It's kept up in my head.

00:36:41.286 --> 00:36:44.716
We all have some continuum of like our natural skill sets is what I'm saying.

00:36:44.716 --> 00:36:47.356
Where like some people are like, got it. That's still good.

00:36:47.356 --> 00:36:52.226
You are thinking about it um i didn't even think about it i just was like i did,

00:36:53.226 --> 00:36:56.506
acknowledge how long i stayed in back mount for like the duration of the time

00:36:56.506 --> 00:36:58.816
i was set aside like i think i told you like 10 or 12 minutes i was like i'm

00:36:58.816 --> 00:37:01.866
gonna see if i can stay the whole time i'm gonna get as many minutes out of

00:37:01.866 --> 00:37:04.286
this 12 right right so i'm aware of that but.

00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.376
Um but so like in one way or another we're both kind of thinking for like how

00:37:08.376 --> 00:37:11.876
well are we doing at this chosen little challenge like we want to do well at

00:37:11.876 --> 00:37:14.786
this one there are other little scenarios where like i said there's less about

00:37:14.786 --> 00:37:17.892
me and what i want to get out of it maybe a little more for like for the rest of the team.

00:37:18.606 --> 00:37:20.986
I'm still gaining from that. But like, there was like, that was like the one

00:37:20.986 --> 00:37:23.192
thing for sure that I was like that and octopus card, by the way,

00:37:23.563 --> 00:37:25.406
where I was like, all right, like, these are the things I want to like,

00:37:25.406 --> 00:37:28.036
let's, I want to get, let's, I want to like ride, I want to,

00:37:28.036 --> 00:37:29.146
I want to get better at this.

00:37:29.146 --> 00:37:33.906
I want to see if I can, you know, maintain effectiveness as long as possible. Just as an example.

00:37:34.166 --> 00:37:37.946
You need to develop a metric of success, right? Like if you don't have a,

00:37:37.946 --> 00:37:42.406
like, if you can't measure the success of something. This is a NACAPAN quote.

00:37:42.406 --> 00:37:43.846
What gets measured gets managed.

00:37:43.968 --> 00:37:46.426
Yeah. And he uses it for business. He probably uses it for everything in his

00:37:46.426 --> 00:37:49.646
life that he cares about, To your point, yeah.

00:37:50.586 --> 00:37:53.329
It's choosing, like, hey, we care about this. We care about the outcomes.

00:37:53.329 --> 00:37:56.639
We want to do better. We're not killing ourselves the outcome and exactly what

00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:00.529
we want, but we're going to fucking fight metaphorically and literally,

00:38:00.895 --> 00:38:03.367
spiritually, mentally.

00:38:03.635 --> 00:38:06.009
We're trying to get better. It's the purpose of all this shit.

00:38:07.249 --> 00:38:12.981
Purpose is a good, that's a good word to use too because if you're not measuring,

00:38:13.700 --> 00:38:19.049
if you don't give yourself a way to know that this discomfort is successful, right?

00:38:19.049 --> 00:38:23.354
Like, and you're not measuring, you don't create that measurement of success, then,

00:38:24.897 --> 00:38:32.735
how do you know that you got anything out of it, right? Like that discomfort needs to have a purpose.

00:38:33.849 --> 00:38:36.745
Because otherwise you're just uncomfortable for the sake of being uncomfortable,

00:38:37.105 --> 00:38:42.125
which does not lead to the growth, right? You want to make it, you want to make it.

00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:50.532
You want to make it so it's productive. Like suffering just to suffer is,

00:38:50.834 --> 00:38:53.715
unless you're, I don't know, some people out there, like some people like are

00:38:53.715 --> 00:38:55.805
kind of can do that. We don't kink shame.

00:38:56.365 --> 00:38:58.685
We're not going to kink shame. Yeah, we're not going to yuck your yum.

00:38:59.145 --> 00:39:02.035
But like, and so that might work for some people. For most people,

00:39:02.035 --> 00:39:06.019
like it's, that ends up being, you just end up suffering, which is kind of like

00:39:06.286 --> 00:39:09.685
everyone has some sort of like metric or like continuum of like toughness so

00:39:09.685 --> 00:39:10.523
they can handle this stuff.

00:39:10.854 --> 00:39:15.115
But like, to your point earlier, it's like you should like, you create a purpose

00:39:15.115 --> 00:39:16.925
for it so that you're like, hey, I'm willing to do this tough,

00:39:16.925 --> 00:39:20.462
suffering shit because like it's benefiting me in ways that I,

00:39:20.972 --> 00:39:23.678
it has a purpose. It's serving a purpose.

00:39:24.223 --> 00:39:29.709
Has value to it. And I think that's what you have to like, you have to know what that is.

00:39:31.027 --> 00:39:35.322
And then, you know, you might even end up liking the suffering. You probably will.

00:39:35.891 --> 00:39:38.235
Because you know the suffering is like, this is like, ooh, it kind of sucks,

00:39:38.235 --> 00:39:40.985
but it's like little deposits in my bank account. I know that this is making

00:39:40.985 --> 00:39:43.125
me better. I have to keep, this is good. It hurts.

00:39:43.185 --> 00:39:46.845
It's good for me. It hurts. No, seriously, that's a Jocko good.

00:39:47.176 --> 00:39:53.411
It really is. It's tricking your brain into saying Jocko good for the shitty stuff. Yeah.

00:39:57.014 --> 00:40:00.425
Yeah you do have to say that to yourself I mean Jocko's the man dude for so

00:40:00.425 --> 00:40:03.885
many reasons and like if you yeah if we could summarize our conversation down

00:40:03.885 --> 00:40:05.965
to like just watch the Jocko good just watch Jocko

00:40:06.365 --> 00:40:09.765
save yourself 90 minutes and just like you know or 58 minutes just watch two

00:40:09.765 --> 00:40:13.036
and a half minutes of Jocko good it's got cool music Jocko's voice is awesome,

00:40:13.524 --> 00:40:17.485
he's yeah yeah I'm not even trying to mimic it yeah it's too good just watch it,

00:40:19.404 --> 00:40:20.005
yeah I mean yes.

00:40:22.765 --> 00:40:24.182
Yes, the...

00:40:26.806 --> 00:40:34.991
It pays off in the end. The, like, shitty days, the shitty training days where you get beat up, right?

00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:41.074
And they suck. I mean, it sucks. It does. Like, those days can suck where,

00:40:41.074 --> 00:40:47.784
like, I have plenty of footage proof on my phone of me just getting,

00:40:47.784 --> 00:40:49.317
like, smashed down by Kamal.

00:40:49.695 --> 00:40:53.734
Oh, yeah. You know, and, like. Oh, yeah. And lots of not footage of it, too. Yeah.

00:40:54.134 --> 00:40:57.094
I have lots of. There's a lot of. There's a lot of. mostly not recorded but

00:40:57.094 --> 00:40:59.484
it's like this is like a tip of an iceberg thing like what you all see there's

00:40:59.484 --> 00:41:00.714
like oh there's way more yeah,

00:41:01.434 --> 00:41:04.904
but you know where you're just getting just like smirked smashed yeah right

00:41:04.904 --> 00:41:11.398
and um and like ultimately like it it really does make you better i mean.

00:41:12.454 --> 00:41:16.286
I i'd like to believe that we've evolved beyond the,

00:41:16.930 --> 00:41:21.364
earlier days of like iron sharpens iron but iron does sharpen iron it's that's

00:41:21.364 --> 00:41:25.254
another like good old-fashioned like we quote of like it never gets old it will

00:41:25.254 --> 00:41:29.417
always be relevant it does yeah it's not like necessarily the best

00:41:29.725 --> 00:41:31.504
all the time training method but

00:41:31.504 --> 00:41:35.564
sometimes you just have to do it and like that's that really is like the,

00:41:36.162 --> 00:41:39.419
the super you know if you want to really throw it back to,

00:41:40.255 --> 00:41:45.276
like uncomfortable days make you better like it really does make you better,

00:41:45.810 --> 00:41:49.474
it might not be the smartest way to get better like what we're talking about

00:41:49.474 --> 00:41:53.934
like like now like we just you just create scenarios where you have to deal

00:41:53.934 --> 00:41:57.407
with those like small each little thing,

00:41:58.011 --> 00:42:03.134
you know where the the takeaways that you've decided on or the tasks that you're

00:42:03.134 --> 00:42:04.994
trying to improve on like.

00:42:06.138 --> 00:42:09.585
Rather than we're not creating like those micro goals and dealing with them,

00:42:10.085 --> 00:42:12.778
now we're just talking about like we're just going to have like a rough day

00:42:13.046 --> 00:42:17.965
and it's not the entirety of how you train too right like it shouldn't be 100

00:42:17.965 --> 00:42:22.119
of your training shouldn't be just getting choosing to get beaten up because you know there's,

00:42:22.850 --> 00:42:28.055
like i mean not again we've extolled on the virtue of doing that but i don't

00:42:28.055 --> 00:42:31.115
think it should be all of what you do either like you you also need the days

00:42:31.115 --> 00:42:33.641
where you put it together you're like all right well i did all that for a reason

00:42:34.047 --> 00:42:36.806
um and i funny enough i had a conversation recently with a guy who i've trained with,

00:42:37.298 --> 00:42:42.405
um i've known him for a while but we trained together a little more more recently yeah,

00:42:42.885 --> 00:42:48.565
um and he has now he doesn't know this but he's kind of finding out and we're

00:42:48.565 --> 00:42:51.745
buddies right this is not a competition but like we we he's been one of the

00:42:51.745 --> 00:42:53.925
guys i've trained with on a lot of days where i've chosen to do that where i've

00:42:53.925 --> 00:42:55.020
chosen to be like all right like i'm gonna this,

00:42:55.530 --> 00:42:58.205
dude's good at leg locks he's good at other stuff i'm not so good at so we're

00:42:58.205 --> 00:43:00.453
gonna do that and like he beats me on things,

00:43:01.289 --> 00:43:04.345
yeah he's i think he's kind of gotten accustomed to like being like yeah i can

00:43:04.345 --> 00:43:06.548
beat scott of this stuff which is fine because he can,

00:43:07.007 --> 00:43:10.965
um when we choose to play that game michael and then he's more recently running

00:43:10.965 --> 00:43:13.675
to me on days where i'm like yeah i'm not doing that today and i'm doing what

00:43:13.675 --> 00:43:18.420
i want to do and like i'm fucking i'm highlight reel on him and afterwards he's like,

00:43:18.983 --> 00:43:21.461
hey you were getting me pretty good today i was like.

00:43:22.309 --> 00:43:26.313
Yeah, I was, you know, and we laughed, we were friends, he's a great training

00:43:26.313 --> 00:43:30.133
partner, good buddy, he's good in and of himself as well, but I was sort of

00:43:30.133 --> 00:43:32.613
like, yeah, just, you know, kind of doing my thing today,

00:43:33.073 --> 00:43:36.533
like, I'm not telling him, I'm like, hey, I'm allowing you to put me in scenarios

00:43:36.533 --> 00:43:39.486
where I know you'll beat me, but that's what it is.

00:43:39.788 --> 00:43:45.013
We were playing a different game and now is the day that you die like sorry buddy.

00:43:46.273 --> 00:43:49.273
Lol but like that's what I'm doing I'm like today's the day I'm like nah man,

00:43:50.009 --> 00:43:53.533
I just you know cause I need to do that too you have to have those days where

00:43:53.533 --> 00:43:59.633
you're like in my opinion these again this is it's a lot on process and programming

00:43:59.633 --> 00:44:00.833
thinking through how you want to train,

00:44:01.625 --> 00:44:04.873
mapping out and coordinating your calendars and your dates for events and stuff

00:44:04.873 --> 00:44:09.193
like that going into like a pans or a worlds like you're going to need you really

00:44:09.193 --> 00:44:15.272
need to employ your game where you need to you need to also practice beating people,

00:44:16.015 --> 00:44:19.168
because that's the point of that game you can't always just be in the habit of like,

00:44:19.847 --> 00:44:23.993
because there can be too much of what we are doing where like you get habitually

00:44:23.993 --> 00:44:27.043
comfortable saying no big deal i'm just doing the thing i'm not very good at

00:44:27.043 --> 00:44:31.428
oh i tapped out i tapped out i tapped out i tapped out i got beat i did get better i tapped out less,

00:44:31.915 --> 00:44:35.683
but there needs to You should be the nail a lot of times if you want to grow,

00:44:35.683 --> 00:44:39.015
but also there's value in being like, I'm going to be the hammer.

00:44:39.183 --> 00:44:41.753
Because when the tournament comes around, you need to be a hammer.

00:44:43.229 --> 00:44:47.884
You need to fucking hammer. You gotta practice hammering. Kind of like adding

00:44:48.226 --> 00:44:54.182
a little bit of the theme of this episode to that. If you get too comfortable with,

00:44:55.493 --> 00:44:59.195
being in that losing scenario you know what i mean like a habit you can almost

00:44:59.195 --> 00:45:03.195
yeah it can become a habit or you you like you said you start kind of like maybe

00:45:03.195 --> 00:45:07.415
you lose your edge a little bit yeah you start giving yourself excuses to lose

00:45:07.415 --> 00:45:09.495
be like well this is what i'm working on this is what i'm working on so it's

00:45:09.495 --> 00:45:11.491
okay that i'm losing here this is what i'm working on

00:45:11.805 --> 00:45:17.116
and like sometimes you have to you have to remind yourself why you're doing this and it's to not,

00:45:17.569 --> 00:45:22.545
it's still to to lose less lose less and so you have to like remind yourself

00:45:22.545 --> 00:45:25.360
like no like I'm not supposed to lose here. That's right.

00:45:26.995 --> 00:45:30.005
I'm allowed to lose here because I'm trying to get better at this,

00:45:30.005 --> 00:45:32.105
but I'm still supposed to win here.

00:45:32.418 --> 00:45:37.185
I still need to win here. And force yourself to continue to be uncomfortable

00:45:37.185 --> 00:45:40.295
there and know like, no, this sucks. I need to get better at this.

00:45:40.295 --> 00:45:43.785
I need to get out, right? And so you have to keep reminding yourself of this

00:45:43.785 --> 00:45:46.819
as well. It brings me back to what you were saying earlier about like watching that tape.

00:45:47.272 --> 00:45:50.735
And the word that I was using, but we can call it whatever, was like discernment

00:45:50.735 --> 00:45:52.325
of looking at that clip, like you said.

00:45:52.325 --> 00:45:57.295
Even though we chose the armbar like example yeah to your point earlier and

00:45:57.295 --> 00:46:00.258
i would agree with you for a competitive perspective,

00:46:00.740 --> 00:46:05.720
um a game perspective like in let's just use that same like little micro example that we chose

00:46:06.150 --> 00:46:09.355
where that person was like oh i guess i should be doing armbar skater like you

00:46:09.355 --> 00:46:12.075
said it you're like no no man like for the tournament it's going to be french

00:46:12.075 --> 00:46:15.555
because your mistake we're seeing it in the armbar that's where you tapped out

00:46:15.555 --> 00:46:17.789
but your mistake was three steps ago yeah well you got

00:46:18.126 --> 00:46:21.445
trapped you did this like that's where your fight's going to be so that Like

00:46:21.445 --> 00:46:23.339
you said, again, a lot of this is process.

00:46:23.652 --> 00:46:26.715
A lot of this is good coaching, it's programming, seeing eye to eye,

00:46:26.715 --> 00:46:30.345
educating our students and ourselves on knowing where those moments,

00:46:30.345 --> 00:46:34.185
like where that fight's really taking place for the competitor then,

00:46:34.185 --> 00:46:35.976
like you said, go back into.

00:46:38.520 --> 00:46:40.750
You definitely need to train this way because, like I said, you are going to

00:46:40.750 --> 00:46:43.770
be the hammer when you go and compete. But, like, the hammer has to know,

00:46:43.770 --> 00:46:47.242
like, when he's becoming a nail in a tournament, it could be...

00:46:47.509 --> 00:46:50.860
That's the fun thing, but the really challenging thing about Jiu-Jitsu,

00:46:50.860 --> 00:46:52.980
too, is obviously you don't know. The other guy...

00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:57.047
We always say this. The other guy gets a vote. The other guy is trying to trick you.

00:46:57.593 --> 00:47:01.900
The other guy is trying to lure you into traps. They want you to feel comfortable where you are.

00:47:02.120 --> 00:47:04.900
That's right. So that they can... That's right. You have to discern that.

00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:07.320
So you have to know, like, hey, when I'm in this space, before he even gets

00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.841
me in the arm, there's a moment where he's going to trap my leg.

00:47:10.114 --> 00:47:13.580
He's going to grab my wrist and kind of pull. He's going to break my posture.

00:47:13.580 --> 00:47:16.210
And so that's where you have to know that like, oh, oh, I'm entering arm bar

00:47:16.210 --> 00:47:18.044
range. And the job right, the fight is right now.

00:47:18.618 --> 00:47:22.577
Before I even get, before he catches my arm, if I don't fight right now.

00:47:23.500 --> 00:47:28.120
He's, I'm going to lose the likelihood that I'm going to remain the hammer and

00:47:28.120 --> 00:47:31.894
I'm going to start to become the nail. Like you need to see when you're shifting from hammer to nail.

00:47:32.434 --> 00:47:35.950
And that's a lot of competition. It's like knowing where you're going to be

00:47:35.950 --> 00:47:39.243
attacking and staying there staying on offense this is like

00:47:39.644 --> 00:47:44.610
it's the the concept of the initiative of of combat it's like you want to own

00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:49.243
the initiative of combat which means you must know where you're in control and dictating,

00:47:49.917 --> 00:47:53.230
and to the best of your ability because again a good jiu-jitsu competitor is

00:47:53.230 --> 00:47:54.996
trying to trick you just like you're trying to trick them

00:47:55.437 --> 00:47:58.420
they're trying to trick you into do they're doing the same thing to you if they're

00:47:58.420 --> 00:48:02.200
smart if they're they're they are whether they know it or not um so yeah you

00:48:02.200 --> 00:48:05.960
have to have that like awareness of like all right like when i don't do the

00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:07.610
following things, I always win.

00:48:07.895 --> 00:48:10.450
When I do do the following things, it gets harder. I make mistakes.

00:48:10.450 --> 00:48:12.405
It's like that's, that tells you something.

00:48:13.003 --> 00:48:16.540
There's like little like, little like, decisive moments of battles.

00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:23.080
Yeah, it's those tipping points, right? Like, I tell people that it's a slider. I don't know, like.

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00:48:55.964 --> 00:49:00.793
That like morale slider that you might have had in like tactical video games,

00:49:01.333 --> 00:49:05.363
yeah we're like this team's winning as the slider goes this way but then like

00:49:05.363 --> 00:49:08.543
one little thing happens and the slider starts to slide to the other side and

00:49:08.543 --> 00:49:11.793
like now this team's winning and you're just battling to see who can get it to the other

00:49:12.153 --> 00:49:15.133
all the way over like tug of war it could just be tug of war too right yeah

00:49:15.133 --> 00:49:19.093
you have the yeah it's a flag and you're trying to pass it yeah and so,

00:49:19.593 --> 00:49:24.960
you're you're looking for that one wherever that tipping point was in the case of this arm bar like,

00:49:25.611 --> 00:49:30.103
where was the disruption that led to them being able to go into the arm that's

00:49:30.103 --> 00:49:35.189
right don't look at the arm bar let's start there and let's just start slowly rewinding the tape,

00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:41.045
until we find that moment where like oh this is where it turned over,

00:49:41.910 --> 00:49:45.741
remember that moment slide it back just a little bit further it'd be like all right,

00:49:46.362 --> 00:49:52.193
where was i in control let's start there and not allow us to get to that tipping

00:49:52.193 --> 00:49:54.843
point right so we're not going to worry about the tip we're not going to start

00:49:54.843 --> 00:49:56.950
the tipping point that's not going to be,

00:49:57.461 --> 00:50:00.523
the work the works before that yeah yes so we're going to roll it all the way

00:50:00.523 --> 00:50:02.140
back and we're going to say all right hey.

00:50:03.193 --> 00:50:07.943
Training partner for today this is what i'm working on you know this could be

00:50:07.943 --> 00:50:12.833
during open rolling whatever but like hey you're trying to armbar me I'm going

00:50:12.833 --> 00:50:18.139
to start at this point in your guard or wherever it doesn't matter it could be bottom who cares,

00:50:19.133 --> 00:50:25.973
I'm going to start in this position my goal right now is purely to not let you get to the armbar and

00:50:26.293 --> 00:50:29.873
ideally we'll get to progression as this goes like you're going to try to progress

00:50:29.873 --> 00:50:33.553
the next step but for now hey I'm just going to try to prevent you from being

00:50:33.553 --> 00:50:34.933
able to even get to an armbar,

00:50:35.692 --> 00:50:38.973
and that's the drill that's right and.

00:50:40.249 --> 00:50:45.043
We can still do the armbar escapes at a different that can be part of this like

00:50:45.043 --> 00:50:50.738
if you are constantly caught in armbars maybe you do need to work on that um but,

00:50:51.911 --> 00:50:57.323
let's look at the moments leading up to the tipping point. And every position

00:50:57.323 --> 00:50:58.592
is going to have these tips. That's right.

00:50:58.888 --> 00:51:04.323
It's really easy to see them in submissions because there is definitive.

00:51:04.323 --> 00:51:07.833
And they're like, yeah, you can track it in a video. You can literally timestamp

00:51:07.833 --> 00:51:10.093
the video and be like, pause, watch it progress.

00:51:10.393 --> 00:51:13.693
Yeah, you can see the whole life cycle of the move. You can see it and you can look at,

00:51:14.233 --> 00:51:16.843
with guard passing, sometimes it's a little bit, like with a guard,

00:51:16.843 --> 00:51:20.808
with someone passing your guard, it can be a little more tricky because sometimes,

00:51:21.261 --> 00:51:25.696
there's a lot of other things like it could be oh i went for this thing and they passed,

00:51:26.543 --> 00:51:31.743
okay that's a little bit like harder to oh yeah i went for an armbar they defended

00:51:31.743 --> 00:51:35.333
it they passed like that that's a little bit of a more difficult like muddier

00:51:35.333 --> 00:51:37.953
situation because well maybe don't go for the armbar but also

00:51:38.273 --> 00:51:41.783
i kind of like that you went for the armbar and like yeah so that that's some

00:51:41.783 --> 00:51:46.273
some other scenarios it's a little harder to discern but you'll be able to do

00:51:46.273 --> 00:51:49.884
it just finding the tipping points harder yeah that's not bad it's just

00:51:50.227 --> 00:51:53.013
to point out it is a little more difficult um,

00:51:53.518 --> 00:51:55.513
but yeah that's that is,

00:51:56.033 --> 00:51:59.863
the thing that we're trying to work on is not reaching that um,

00:52:00.385 --> 00:52:05.754
and that is going to be very difficult but once you get your finger on it um.

00:52:07.003 --> 00:52:12.423
So i mean like in in my opinion um and what i would in that scenario kind of

00:52:12.423 --> 00:52:15.253
like talk to the other person about it, the other guy about it,

00:52:15.273 --> 00:52:19.315
it would be like, hey, look, you see right here this moment where,

00:52:20.313 --> 00:52:22.879
maybe you stepped in a little too close or whatever it is.

00:52:26.362 --> 00:52:30.675
Was the first domino to fall before the whole series event kind of went down

00:52:30.675 --> 00:52:32.003
the path towards that guy winning it.

00:52:32.485 --> 00:52:35.425
He gained control as soon as you did that. But I say that because there might

00:52:35.425 --> 00:52:37.790
be an opportunity with that, with the student, with whoever to say,

00:52:39.085 --> 00:52:41.767
hey, dude, look, like this, you can prevent that.

00:52:42.051 --> 00:52:44.705
It's actually really not that. It took some work for us to identify that.

00:52:44.705 --> 00:52:46.675
Like you said, it's difficult to identify, but once you identify,

00:52:46.675 --> 00:52:49.104
you can say, hey, look, the homework might not be that difficult.

00:52:49.656 --> 00:52:53.695
Look, you kind of stepped into it. So what that tells me is you don't have to do that.

00:52:53.695 --> 00:52:57.685
So you have so much agency and control over this situation, you're actually

00:52:57.685 --> 00:53:00.995
maybe a little bit better at preventing arm bars than perhaps you think because

00:53:00.995 --> 00:53:04.540
you can two or three steps back because now that you're aware of it,

00:53:05.236 --> 00:53:07.175
you can better manage your range.

00:53:07.454 --> 00:53:12.425
You can redirect, like if we're standing and we're moving towards a seated player

00:53:12.425 --> 00:53:15.894
where their weapons are positioned, all right, well,

00:53:16.655 --> 00:53:20.405
let's rethink about where we maneuver inwards so that we don't put them in a

00:53:20.405 --> 00:53:23.307
good position for that arm bar that comes three or four steps later.

00:53:23.783 --> 00:53:26.445
Like I say that to say like I think it can be also like a way to like boost

00:53:26.445 --> 00:53:28.865
someone's confidence to say look man like you actually have more control of

00:53:28.865 --> 00:53:31.276
this than you think it's not going to be some crazy complicated.

00:53:33.244 --> 00:53:36.925
Problem to solve because the job's going to be here and it may just be something

00:53:36.925 --> 00:53:39.455
as simple as like you're going to hand fight out here you're going to win the

00:53:39.455 --> 00:53:43.374
hand fights and then like you're only going to close distance when you like your hand fighting.

00:53:44.929 --> 00:53:48.640
Just as an example to say, hey, it's a lot simpler. No, we need to work on it.

00:53:48.791 --> 00:53:52.589
We're going to challenge you to be good at this. You still make it arm bar a

00:53:52.589 --> 00:53:56.229
bunch of times, but know that if you do this one thing well,

00:53:56.229 --> 00:53:57.527
you're already in a better position.

00:53:58.183 --> 00:54:01.609
This is the fight. The fight's right here. And if it's an unforced error,

00:54:01.609 --> 00:54:04.917
if you chose to step in there, well, hey, by the way, that means you cannot do that.

00:54:05.312 --> 00:54:08.539
Make the other guy beat you is better than you saying, oh, I just kind of fucked

00:54:08.539 --> 00:54:12.290
up. Yeah. I did this thing and now I lost. But now I know.

00:54:13.009 --> 00:54:17.309
If you didn't know before, You may feel like some big, it could be this big,

00:54:17.629 --> 00:54:19.799
hard to solve, complicated problem. You're like, and I just,

00:54:19.799 --> 00:54:22.989
you beat yourself. It was like, I just get armbarred. Fuck. Yeah.

00:54:23.469 --> 00:54:26.759
Yes. But that's not really what the issue was, homie. The issue was like right

00:54:26.759 --> 00:54:28.589
here. Like it kind of just stepped in. You're like, oh, I hadn't,

00:54:28.589 --> 00:54:30.869
I didn't see that. Well, that's the coach's job. We come in,

00:54:30.869 --> 00:54:33.250
we said that. We're like, well, you know, I saw it.

00:54:33.738 --> 00:54:37.389
And now, you know, and now you're more informed and you start to pick up on

00:54:37.389 --> 00:54:40.729
these concepts of how important something like initial hand fighting and ranges

00:54:40.729 --> 00:54:42.249
at that first point of contact.

00:54:42.249 --> 00:54:47.459
Like, you know, by the way, there's like, and by the way, I've got three simple

00:54:47.459 --> 00:54:49.969
drills and we're going to add into your, fuck, we'll add it into the warmup.

00:54:49.969 --> 00:54:52.659
You don't even need to think about it. Just do the warmup. And like when you

00:54:52.659 --> 00:54:56.059
do the warmup, just try, try the warmup. Like really think about that initial

00:54:56.059 --> 00:54:58.043
contact, grip, move, grip, move.

00:54:58.438 --> 00:55:00.809
Or like he grips you, grip, grip, move. Like just like little,

00:55:00.809 --> 00:55:03.199
little skills that like, it doesn't have to become some big,

00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:06.729
like, holy fuck, I've got this, this, you know, like equals MC squared.

00:55:06.729 --> 00:55:08.449
I've got this like crazy physics equation.

00:55:08.469 --> 00:55:10.814
I'm going to figure out like, no, no, no, no. It's just like, you just do this thing.

00:55:10.977 --> 00:55:13.319
Trust me. you do this for six months, I'll put it in your warm-up.

00:55:13.319 --> 00:55:14.320
I don't even want you to think about it.

00:55:14.593 --> 00:55:17.799
I don't even, you're just gonna get better at it. Like, it can be done with,

00:55:17.799 --> 00:55:20.439
like, good coaching, good programming, like you said, like the right analysis.

00:55:21.977 --> 00:55:24.845
To make our students' lives a little bit easier. Um,

00:55:25.847 --> 00:55:30.492
But no, that does require a trained eye and good coaching, a little bit of effort

00:55:30.492 --> 00:55:32.707
to take the time to watch the tape. But we're already doing it.

00:55:34.132 --> 00:55:38.216
We like doing that stuff. And that is why it's important to have that outside,

00:55:38.972 --> 00:55:43.612
person looking at it, not yourself. Yeah. Because one, you will always be the

00:55:43.612 --> 00:55:44.817
most critical of yourself.

00:55:45.444 --> 00:55:48.411
That's just how it's going to be. You're going to just be like, no, I just suck at this.

00:55:48.694 --> 00:55:50.432
And then you have to have someone come and be like, no, dude,

00:55:50.432 --> 00:55:53.852
actually, you normally do this just fine. But this time you did this.

00:55:54.692 --> 00:55:57.392
Like you said sometimes that is all the case it's quite preventable actually

00:55:57.392 --> 00:56:02.042
dude let's simplify give yourself a break and like anything else like multiple

00:56:02.042 --> 00:56:05.132
sets of eyes are always a benefit rather than you just looking at it overnight

00:56:05.132 --> 00:56:07.792
like let's get more eyes on this yeah look at it as if,

00:56:08.507 --> 00:56:11.992
look at it as if it's not your own video too that would help that might be hard

00:56:11.992 --> 00:56:15.642
to do but yes if you want to take if you maybe you don't have someone that can

00:56:15.642 --> 00:56:18.027
evaluate it for you just to like throw this one out there.

00:56:19.092 --> 00:56:22.452
Because this is how I try to evaluate my own videos I don't always do it the

00:56:22.452 --> 00:56:24.556
first time but when i go back and watch them later

00:56:24.870 --> 00:56:27.312
i try to look at and be like all right how would i coach someone else if this

00:56:27.312 --> 00:56:30.542
wasn't me what would i what would i say like if this was just like one of my

00:56:30.542 --> 00:56:34.552
guys how would i see this and like that's how i try to frame it when i go back

00:56:34.552 --> 00:56:36.271
and look at them sometimes you do have to,

00:56:36.729 --> 00:56:40.152
you know take your medicine and like yep look at it as if it is yourself and

00:56:40.152 --> 00:56:43.642
just play no like that was just a shitty performance that's fine okay every

00:56:43.642 --> 00:56:47.782
every so often you do have to do that but um to remind yourself.

00:56:48.712 --> 00:56:52.482
Yeah yeah no no it's even like you said there's a comfort that's the comfort

00:56:52.482 --> 00:56:56.812
discomfort but that is also i find that these personally

00:56:57.252 --> 00:57:01.772
i what i like about that feeling that sting of like fuck that sucked god damn

00:57:01.772 --> 00:57:04.605
it it's on video too crap everyone can see on the internet okay okay okay okay,

00:57:05.174 --> 00:57:08.322
it's like a good reminder as to why we care about these training sessions it

00:57:08.322 --> 00:57:10.561
should give you a little bit of a fire to be like man i just don't want that

00:57:10.799 --> 00:57:14.512
if i'm gonna lose again i'd like to lose differently yeah you know like i'd

00:57:14.512 --> 00:57:17.272
like to lose in a different way i don't want to i want to

00:57:17.652 --> 00:57:21.652
reduce the amount of repeated silly mistakes. So, you know,

00:57:22.489 --> 00:57:25.764
kind of like sometimes like we embrace that like discomfort of like fuck man

00:57:25.764 --> 00:57:28.468
i got beat on tv i got choked out or whatever like big deal like,

00:57:28.990 --> 00:57:33.425
all right cool like let it let it like like you convert it into like a beneficial,

00:57:33.884 --> 00:57:37.134
motivational thing that like then we take back we do all the shit we're talking

00:57:37.134 --> 00:57:39.134
about here and it's like when you go into that practice room you're like no

00:57:39.134 --> 00:57:42.139
no i'm going to try at the hand fighting drill yeah

00:57:42.528 --> 00:57:45.934
i'm gonna try because i want to get i don't want to lose that same way i would

00:57:46.274 --> 00:57:50.864
piss me off i am going to get better at this that's right thing yeah yeah if i.

00:57:51.798 --> 00:57:55.354
Damn it if i get it better be something different yeah it's not gonna be that

00:57:55.354 --> 00:57:59.194
fucking thing it's gonna be something different yeah exactly yeah and um and

00:57:59.194 --> 00:58:03.144
there's there's value there's there's valor in that yeah you're the guy who's

00:58:03.144 --> 00:58:05.354
like i can see a problem i can fix a problem yeah

00:58:05.774 --> 00:58:09.274
and there will be other problems but when i find those problems i'll fix those

00:58:09.274 --> 00:58:13.174
fucking problems too because i'm a goddamn terminator and i'm unstoppable and

00:58:13.174 --> 00:58:15.140
like i'm too stubborn to quit yeah,

00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.434
bitch i'll outlast you like gotta be the terminator yeah you gotta be.

00:58:19.954 --> 00:58:22.234
Be unwilling to die the same way twice.

00:58:22.234 --> 00:58:25.674
That's right. I think that's a good way. We should write that down. Yeah.

00:58:26.348 --> 00:58:30.110
Put that on something too. Be unwilling to die the same way twice. That's right.

00:58:31.590 --> 00:58:36.391
Yeah, man. I mean, it's, it is hard to do. It is, it is.

00:58:37.570 --> 00:58:41.007
It's not that hard. It's hard at first. And then you're just like,

00:58:41.262 --> 00:58:43.614
I think if you accept it, like, this is the job. Well, I just mean,

00:58:44.095 --> 00:58:48.384
it's difficult to be the appropriate level of critical of yourself.

00:58:48.384 --> 00:58:49.354
Yeah. You know what I mean?

00:58:49.794 --> 00:58:54.914
I totally get what you're saying. It's very easy. It's easier to be overcritical

00:58:54.914 --> 00:58:58.674
of yourself. And it's also easy to be too easy on yourself. Totally.

00:58:58.674 --> 00:59:00.982
Like, it's easy to go and make the excuses.

00:59:01.307 --> 00:59:06.804
It's easy also to to tell yourself that that wasn't that like no that was just

00:59:06.804 --> 00:59:10.434
a it was just really bad like all these things were bad i did all these things

00:59:10.434 --> 00:59:14.200
wrong i know until i just kind of like cop out and be like no it's just i'm just bad

00:59:14.537 --> 00:59:17.434
versus to look at it like through a realistic lens and be like no,

00:59:17.994 --> 00:59:23.347
i did this one very specific thing wrong and that's what i need to get better at because like.

00:59:24.322 --> 00:59:28.200
It it's easier just to be like i just need to be better at everything i'm just going to do everything,

00:59:28.717 --> 00:59:31.614
like it's easy to say that because then there's kind of a cop out and you're

00:59:31.614 --> 00:59:34.054
not going to work on anything i understand you know what i mean like you're

00:59:34.054 --> 00:59:37.464
just going to go and do the same things over and over the same thing you let

00:59:37.464 --> 00:59:39.754
me give you a thought exercise that i've kind of fucked around with because

00:59:39.754 --> 00:59:41.854
if i've i've watched people out there

00:59:42.242 --> 00:59:44.704
who have just like mastered humility,

00:59:45.296 --> 00:59:50.219
in a way that i admire so much man that like they,

00:59:50.956 --> 00:59:57.121
are so humble that they I end up becoming freakishly successful, and I'll tell you why.

00:59:57.649 --> 01:00:00.184
Because I've seen guys do this, and it's almost like flipping around what you

01:00:00.184 --> 01:00:03.974
just said, to an extent. It's almost like, yes, you want to be confident.

01:00:03.974 --> 01:00:06.924
Yes, you want to be like, I'm gonna fuck, I can do this, and I will do it.

01:00:06.924 --> 01:00:07.935
Here's how I'm gonna do it.

01:00:08.754 --> 01:00:10.356
And I'm ready, I'm prepared, I've done the work.

01:00:12.688 --> 01:00:15.548
I see that same work ethic come through with people who do the following,

01:00:15.548 --> 01:00:20.208
which is like, I've talked to guys who just like basically, they say that like, dude, I suck.

01:00:20.208 --> 01:00:24.408
I am a piece of shit, but I work and I'm going to work. And it's almost like

01:00:24.408 --> 01:00:28.325
they like say to themselves like, man, I'm so crappy at this,

01:00:29.144 --> 01:00:30.630
but I'm still going to fight for it.

01:00:31.117 --> 01:00:35.698
And it like gives them a break when the thing goes wrong. Not that they don't

01:00:35.698 --> 01:00:38.148
hold themselves accountable for it because it's almost like they have that work

01:00:38.148 --> 01:00:41.788
ethic because they believe they're like, look, I'm always going to be a work in progress.

01:00:43.598 --> 01:00:47.384
So like telling myself that I'm the guy is really just something I it's like,

01:00:47.988 --> 01:00:50.868
you could be the guy for the day for that three fights that you win but like,

01:00:51.408 --> 01:00:54.428
you compete enough times someone's going to beat you and then you're going to

01:00:54.428 --> 01:00:56.778
feel that way again so you just almost just like invert it you're like dude

01:00:56.778 --> 01:00:59.648
I'm always I'm just I'm I'm a work in progress,

01:01:00.228 --> 01:01:03.684
and I'm gonna continue to I have to continue to get better so like.

01:01:05.001 --> 01:01:07.563
I may be kind of crappy to all this, but like, I can put it together fairly

01:01:07.563 --> 01:01:08.734
well for a guy who's pretty crappy.

01:01:09.012 --> 01:01:10.603
Also, kind of like, it's funny when you say that, you're like,

01:01:10.603 --> 01:01:14.922
also, maybe that means everyone else is crappy too. We're all crappy. We're all shitty.

01:01:15.823 --> 01:01:16.463
And we're all just trying to

01:01:16.463 --> 01:01:19.663
get better. Who's the best, shittiest person in this? That's what it is.

01:01:20.083 --> 01:01:22.913
And I've seen these guys do that. And like, there's also like a,

01:01:22.913 --> 01:01:26.159
kind of like a looseness to these guys. And they let it, they,

01:01:26.885 --> 01:01:29.633
despite saying that, they don't really believe they're shitty.

01:01:29.633 --> 01:01:32.719
They just believe that like, they're like, I know how much more I need to do.

01:01:32.957 --> 01:01:34.739
So this is now my chance to do it.

01:01:35.029 --> 01:01:38.483
So they're like, all right, it's like, it's like, it's such a humble way to

01:01:38.483 --> 01:01:42.813
look at things that like, you're so humble that you treat that opportunity as

01:01:42.813 --> 01:01:47.453
like an opportunity to say like, man, this is my chance to be a little less crappy.

01:01:47.453 --> 01:01:49.793
Yeah. So like, I'm going to care about these little details.

01:01:49.793 --> 01:01:53.373
And I see these guys, I'm giving you like a kind of like an extreme example.

01:01:53.373 --> 01:01:57.823
I've seen people have with this mindset kick fucking ass because they don't

01:01:57.823 --> 01:02:00.223
squander that opportunity. They treat it for what it is. Like it's a chance

01:02:00.223 --> 01:02:03.119
for me to be less shitty today. And like, I'm going to take it.

01:02:03.514 --> 01:02:06.743
And then if I like we said like if I did my homework from the last time I was

01:02:06.743 --> 01:02:10.805
shitty I'm a little less shitty this other thing maybe I'll be shitty a different thing but that's okay,

01:02:11.862 --> 01:02:16.083
does that make sense well yeah I mean yes yes it does all right you can tell

01:02:16.083 --> 01:02:19.223
me if it doesn't make sense I'll phrase it the way that I kind of think because

01:02:19.223 --> 01:02:25.083
I do always I know I'm not the best person out there yeah right like it's just,

01:02:25.543 --> 01:02:28.843
there's plenty of data to show that I am not it's fine.

01:02:30.323 --> 01:02:36.003
You know what I mean I understand but like you we will talk about confidence

01:02:36.003 --> 01:02:39.563
because that is something that we that's actually a super important that's not

01:02:39.563 --> 01:02:42.953
on this episode that's going to be a different episode because like we don't

01:02:42.953 --> 01:02:44.923
have time for that well okay,

01:02:45.883 --> 01:02:49.203
I would like to I want you to finish your thought but I'd like to kind of instill

01:02:49.203 --> 01:02:52.023
a little hope in all of this too in people for the confidence thing but we'll

01:02:52.023 --> 01:02:56.652
do that we'll get to that I think I can do it I think I can do it but there's.

01:02:58.779 --> 01:03:03.099
For me there's plenty of data to show that i'm not the best at this i know this

01:03:03.099 --> 01:03:09.144
but like every single match and then maybe this is just because like i've always been like an average,

01:03:10.259 --> 01:03:15.129
like level person at all like all the sports i'm decent enough like i'm not

01:03:15.129 --> 01:03:19.168
like i'm on like the slightly better side of average i guess but like i'm not,

01:03:19.859 --> 01:03:24.939
not great i'm not amazing like i'm not like the next well i'll never be i'm

01:03:24.939 --> 01:03:28.419
not like the next like big thing it's not what's gonna happen But like I have,

01:03:28.419 --> 01:03:34.759
I know that the confidence comes from knowing I have the capability to reach a certain level, right?

01:03:34.759 --> 01:03:37.657
Like you know that you have the ability to do this because one,

01:03:38.406 --> 01:03:41.949
everyone is beatable, including yourself. You know you're beatable.

01:03:41.949 --> 01:03:43.265
There's something about like...

01:03:44.514 --> 01:03:50.005
It's almost, you have to know that you can lose. That's right.

01:03:50.243 --> 01:03:52.194
Everyone else can also lose. That's right.

01:03:52.821 --> 01:04:01.087
You're showing up. You have to have the confidence in what you've done, but not arrogance.

01:04:01.325 --> 01:04:04.848
And you just know, I've done the work. I belong here.

01:04:05.336 --> 01:04:09.315
But it doesn't mean that I automatically win. That's right. You still have to

01:04:09.315 --> 01:04:11.035
show up. You have to earn it. You have to earn it.

01:04:11.430 --> 01:04:13.845
You put in the work, and no matter what, you get better. I mean,

01:04:13.845 --> 01:04:18.475
people, the guys that I train always say, dude, like, how do you brush off losses so, so well?

01:04:18.475 --> 01:04:21.635
And I'm like, because it's just part of it, dude. You just, it's the job.

01:04:21.635 --> 01:04:25.675
If you think, if you go in and expect to win, like, like, I don't know what

01:04:25.675 --> 01:04:28.475
else, I don't know what to tell you. Like, that's just not, that's not like

01:04:28.475 --> 01:04:29.983
a, that's not the right mindset.

01:04:30.324 --> 01:04:33.083
If you, you don't, same thing with a new guy.

01:04:33.704 --> 01:04:39.602
Honestly, the thing you say about like, you don't have the right of expectation kind of.

01:04:39.735 --> 01:04:42.975
It's true. It kind of continues past the first time.

01:04:42.975 --> 01:04:47.195
It never you're you always yeah it's it's i mean that's a it's actually

01:04:47.535 --> 01:04:51.905
a constant it's a constant like it is a constant the only thing that you can

01:04:51.905 --> 01:04:56.505
expect is another fight that you're gonna get another match that's right and

01:04:56.505 --> 01:05:00.645
that's really it like that other guy everyone could be better than you,

01:05:01.208 --> 01:05:05.895
and like until you're at a level where like literally you beat everyone that's

01:05:05.895 --> 01:05:10.155
available to you you really don't have the right to expect to win that's just

01:05:10.155 --> 01:05:12.282
how it is that's just how it is um

01:05:12.630 --> 01:05:16.502
and honestly it is about getting better so buster douglas beat mike tyson.

01:05:17.790 --> 01:05:20.896
Like to your point like anyone can be beat like.

01:05:23.395 --> 01:05:28.475
Uh who was the matt sarah knocked out fucking george st pierre yeah like under

01:05:28.475 --> 01:05:33.825
like these guys like you said like these like everyone's beatable um and yes

01:05:33.825 --> 01:05:38.259
i guess what i'd say on on the confidence thing i think the.

01:05:41.596 --> 01:05:44.865
People want like a shortcut to confidence. Yeah.

01:05:45.514 --> 01:05:48.678
And I understand that because the stuff is, like you said, it's uncomfortable.

01:05:48.678 --> 01:05:51.319
The stuff is uncomfortable. Like you're constantly being tested.

01:05:51.783 --> 01:05:56.258
And there's like, there is this impossible ego battle.

01:05:56.258 --> 01:05:59.998
As many times as you do this, it's still there. Like you want to like.

01:06:01.124 --> 01:06:02.398
Kind of like you want to puff your chest.

01:06:02.398 --> 01:06:05.188
You want to like trick yourself into confidence when you're kind of learning.

01:06:05.188 --> 01:06:08.648
And what I would argue what we're talking about here is the habit forming,

01:06:08.648 --> 01:06:14.236
the difficult long road of habit forming that builds true confidence.

01:06:14.573 --> 01:06:18.668
That's what we're like trying to like build the machinery of decision making

01:06:18.668 --> 01:06:22.322
and effort that allows you to have a confidence that just is unquestionable

01:06:22.717 --> 01:06:26.948
versus the like tricking yourself into confidence, which you know you're trying

01:06:26.948 --> 01:06:29.298
to do. And I'm not saying you shouldn't even try to do it.

01:06:29.318 --> 01:06:32.108
Like you want to get to that confident position. However it works for you,

01:06:32.108 --> 01:06:35.318
John could probably give us some different versions of that.

01:06:35.318 --> 01:06:38.588
Yeah, true head shrinking. But what I would argue is like what we're describing

01:06:38.588 --> 01:06:43.428
is like learning how to build like machinery of effort, like a habit of effort

01:06:43.428 --> 01:06:47.898
that, and what my, my version of this was like, it's kind of,

01:06:47.898 --> 01:06:49.558
I've, this is a process thing.

01:06:49.558 --> 01:06:52.498
It's like what we're talking about. I think this is kind of what works for me.

01:06:52.498 --> 01:06:56.398
I'm still working on it, but it's that discernment thing of like finding the,

01:06:56.398 --> 01:07:01.118
finding the issue, addressing the issue, improving on the issue and then doing

01:07:01.118 --> 01:07:03.126
well and doing well and doing well until you find the next issue.

01:07:03.439 --> 01:07:07.788
But like, I think that's part of the habit forming that helps you because I

01:07:07.788 --> 01:07:10.868
find that it's, there's something about you just saying like, oh, okay, like.

01:07:12.128 --> 01:07:15.059
To your point, there isn't, like, you don't deserve the expectations.

01:07:15.425 --> 01:07:17.374
Even if you have a good resume, like, you should always feel,

01:07:17.374 --> 01:07:21.334
like, a humble, challenging, kind of, like, nerve push to be,

01:07:21.334 --> 01:07:23.554
like, I don't know what's going to happen. Then this is in the sports psychology

01:07:23.554 --> 01:07:26.112
books I told you that I have over there. I'm going to make everyone on my new gym read.

01:07:26.794 --> 01:07:29.328
But, like, Jordan talks about this. Gretzky talks about this.

01:07:30.083 --> 01:07:33.177
Baseball players you've heard of. Mike Tyson, like, these, the greats.

01:07:33.502 --> 01:07:36.524
They're all, like, yo, like, we don't control outcomes. We control actions and

01:07:36.524 --> 01:07:40.034
behaviors. Like, they control process. Yeah. And the process is a connection

01:07:40.034 --> 01:07:44.644
to the workflow. and kind of like a gritty, relentless decision to continue

01:07:44.644 --> 01:07:46.470
to compete, which is what you're like.

01:07:47.725 --> 01:07:50.569
Thing gets you to a point where you're like, well, I am confident because,

01:07:50.569 --> 01:07:53.209
and I, you know, you'll, you'll get to the point where you'll have a resume

01:07:53.209 --> 01:07:54.699
that's like, yeah, the resume speaks for itself.

01:07:54.699 --> 01:08:00.179
But like, I'm building the resume by like not choosing not to quit and not allowing

01:08:00.179 --> 01:08:05.719
some fleeting positive, whether it's fake or not, like confidence boost.

01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.662
That's just, it comes and goes anyways. So it's sort of like,

01:08:08.964 --> 01:08:11.309
it's almost like you're more confident in your process. Cause you know,

01:08:11.309 --> 01:08:13.858
like whatever happens, like this is just, here's the thing, I'm doing the job.

01:08:14.206 --> 01:08:17.809
I'm a professional professional does his job win lose whatever good day bad

01:08:17.809 --> 01:08:21.209
day just doing it we're professionals we do this shit and we write part of being

01:08:21.209 --> 01:08:25.589
a professional means like not maybe maybe you get confident and really confident

01:08:25.589 --> 01:08:28.969
almost like not arrogant but like you get like fucking like maybe your,

01:08:29.609 --> 01:08:31.702
your your your ego is around like my workflow,

01:08:32.497 --> 01:08:35.149
because like that's something you can attach to to rather than like oh i'm the

01:08:35.149 --> 01:08:39.189
guy who beats everyone they're like i'm the guy who figures out what's going on and fixes it well yeah,

01:08:39.789 --> 01:08:43.389
your confidence should be in your actions not in that's your person right that's

01:08:43.389 --> 01:08:47.689
right like that's right if you're confident in what you've done in the work

01:08:47.689 --> 01:08:49.909
you can put in like that's a different thing,

01:08:50.869 --> 01:08:56.509
uh i think that's more that lasts longer it's more foundational and then.

01:08:57.603 --> 01:09:00.649
You almost won't even think about having to have that fake confidence like you

01:09:00.649 --> 01:09:03.129
know mindset thing the day of the tournament you don't have to sit there and

01:09:03.129 --> 01:09:06.996
be like i'm the man i'm the guy like you just be like no like i put in the work i'm,

01:09:07.569 --> 01:09:10.359
i can do this yeah and that's and i'm gonna keep putting in the work yeah after

01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.709
this is over and that kind of lends to what you were talking about with like

01:09:12.709 --> 01:09:14.649
those guys who are like so humble, right?

01:09:14.649 --> 01:09:17.369
Like I think that's what I was trying to get across.

01:09:17.829 --> 01:09:23.089
That's where it comes from because it's not it's not them that they're they're

01:09:23.089 --> 01:09:26.296
not confident in their self. They're confident in what they can do.

01:09:26.697 --> 01:09:31.196
And I think that's ultimately what I mean I'm sure we could probably like,

01:09:32.066 --> 01:09:35.334
But if you went and looked at a bunch of like match,

01:09:35.893 --> 01:09:40.145
or pre-match like interviews with some of like the top guys and like you could

01:09:40.145 --> 01:09:44.565
probably correlate that like what they talk about and like when they discuss

01:09:44.565 --> 01:09:47.810
like why they're going to win, you can probably look at like,

01:09:48.414 --> 01:09:51.530
I'm sure if you like really dug into it, like with MMA fighters,

01:09:51.821 --> 01:09:56.385
Jiu Jitsu guys, whoever, and you just look at like what they discuss and they

01:09:56.385 --> 01:09:57.725
discuss why they're going to win.

01:09:57.939 --> 01:10:02.695
You can probably correlate the guys that win with the ones that talk about because

01:10:02.695 --> 01:10:05.315
they did the work, because they've been practicing this thing.

01:10:06.255 --> 01:10:09.455
Versus the guy that's just like, I'm going to win because I'm the best.

01:10:09.815 --> 01:10:13.575
That guy usually loses. You get a lot of that in pro sports where it's like

01:10:13.575 --> 01:10:16.495
it becomes a bit performative for selling things, which is different.

01:10:17.361 --> 01:10:20.839
What you're saying is if we get to that true analytical conversation,

01:10:21.175 --> 01:10:25.875
which is tough in combat sports. The real interview, not the promos. Yeah, totally.

01:10:26.395 --> 01:10:30.219
Totally because you'll see that with a bunch of guys like heck you can watch

01:10:30.440 --> 01:10:32.309
you know some of the guys that are the more like

01:10:32.704 --> 01:10:36.875
fuck that guy I'm gonna win if you go back and watch like the they usually have

01:10:36.875 --> 01:10:40.390
a separate interview with a different you know not the one that's

01:10:40.732 --> 01:10:43.545
pumped out on the commercials it's usually a post fight interview yeah and like

01:10:43.545 --> 01:10:45.935
the kind of like the edge is kind of off like they kind of did the job and they're

01:10:45.935 --> 01:10:48.215
kind of like disarmed and like whatever happens doesn't already happen so they

01:10:48.215 --> 01:10:49.103
don't need to put on errors

01:10:49.463 --> 01:10:52.475
and they generally it's usually a post fight or a post game where like you hear

01:10:52.475 --> 01:10:56.365
like more analytical perspective yeah like well I knew he was really good at

01:10:56.365 --> 01:10:59.875
this thing and I knew, but I had been working on this. Yeah.

01:11:00.195 --> 01:11:03.667
And so like you see the real confidence. You see the process stuff in that,

01:11:03.968 --> 01:11:05.930
in that, in that, that arena.

01:11:06.041 --> 01:11:08.804
And which is a lot of what we're talking about here. Like that discomfort,

01:11:08.926 --> 01:11:15.565
that comfort, like that discomfort comes from, is put into the process specifically

01:11:15.565 --> 01:11:18.975
to make you confident. To build your confidence. In what you're going to do.

01:11:19.515 --> 01:11:23.049
And I mean, we'll get deeper into confidence on a future episode.

01:11:23.177 --> 01:11:25.335
That's just, that's when we're. Yeah. We're running up on time.

01:11:25.855 --> 01:11:28.965
And it's a whole conversation. And I would say maybe this links to the next

01:11:28.965 --> 01:11:30.578
episode, but it really is a like...

01:11:31.223 --> 01:11:34.990
You have to like do the, you have to like build a, it's like a,

01:11:35.118 --> 01:11:40.006
you're kind of building a road that you can, a confidence road you can walk down for men.

01:11:40.151 --> 01:11:42.990
Obviously, you know, jujitsu is what we're talking about, but like other shit in life too.

01:11:43.286 --> 01:11:47.332
Like you're building your confidence brick by brick by like proving it to yourself

01:11:47.721 --> 01:11:49.497
that you can handle like uncomfortable stuff.

01:11:49.921 --> 01:11:54.478
And so what we're saying is like, kind of like the way to build the confidence is like.

01:11:55.435 --> 01:11:59.739
Kind of challenging your confidence a lot of times um and still kind of like

01:11:59.739 --> 01:12:02.659
bouncing back from it and like just keep putting the bricks on the road like

01:12:02.659 --> 01:12:05.879
build that road one step at a time and then like you might get to where like

01:12:05.879 --> 01:12:06.869
the better you get at that like

01:12:07.249 --> 01:12:09.959
you'll notice the bricks get a little bit bigger yeah and like the road starts

01:12:09.959 --> 01:12:13.209
to look a little more like you're like oh okay but like it doesn't come overnight

01:12:13.209 --> 01:12:17.859
for me for some people it does but it's like a normal person like who has like normal healthy like,

01:12:19.531 --> 01:12:24.799
uh confidence and lack of confidence issues like every human being does it's

01:12:24.799 --> 01:12:28.209
gonna be a decision over time, which is probably another reason why I'm encouraged

01:12:28.209 --> 01:12:30.067
what we do, because we want to see the best come out of our people.

01:12:30.200 --> 01:12:34.689
Absolutely. So yeah, guys. That's a fun episode. Comfort and discomfort.

01:12:34.689 --> 01:12:38.949
And speaking of uncomfortable situations, I've got a combat confession from you guys.

01:12:39.749 --> 01:12:43.203
Oh! For you guys here. This one comes from someone who...

01:12:44.892 --> 01:12:48.132
And they're on, I guess they were on Tinder and one of their Tinder profile

01:12:48.132 --> 01:12:49.832
pictures is of them doing jujitsu.

01:12:49.832 --> 01:12:55.382
Phenomenal. Um, so the, it's actually a pretty funny picture.

01:12:55.382 --> 01:13:02.142
Um, it's a dude, uh, he appears to be, you know, they're doing jujitsu on a mat.

01:13:02.142 --> 01:13:06.482
It's him and a buddy in, you know, they're half naked cause they're doing,

01:13:06.482 --> 01:13:10.862
I guess, one, he's wearing socks, which by the way, he's wearing socks and doing

01:13:10.862 --> 01:13:12.512
jujitsu embarrassing for him.

01:13:12.852 --> 01:13:19.212
Yeah, that is hilarious. But so he posted the person responding to one of his

01:13:19.212 --> 01:13:20.556
Tinder profile pictures.

01:13:21.692 --> 01:13:24.411
I don't really know. I've never been on Tinder. I have no idea how it works.

01:13:25.272 --> 01:13:26.092
I can tell you how it works.

01:13:27.752 --> 01:13:30.772
This was at 1.15 a.m., so that's kind of cool, I guess.

01:13:31.612 --> 01:13:35.434
Because they have the time stamp on it. Phenomenal. Is this someone you know?

01:13:35.614 --> 01:13:38.752
No, no, this is not someone. This is a random person. Okay.

01:13:39.532 --> 01:13:42.232
Most people I know are married. Got it. Well, at least the people that would,

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give me combat confession. I understand.

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So tell me more about what you're, this is the message from the,

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I get, maybe lady, could be a guy. I don't have other preferences.

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So tell me more about what you're looking for on here.

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And also, what's going on in that one pic on your profile with you putting a

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dude's face between your legs? Nice.

01:14:04.732 --> 01:14:06.413
This probably is a woman. Do they have the picture in there?

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Oh, yeah. I'll show you the picture in here in just a sec.

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We should describe it for the listeners. So his question, and we're going to

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answer this, and maybe I will also respond to it. This is from three years ago.

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I'm not going to respond to it.

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But how do you, how do I tell her I'm in a club where me and my,

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me and a bunch of other guys dress up in pajamas and roll around on the ground together?

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The pictures of him, I guess, training with his friends. Was this guy's face

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on the one? Yeah, I'll show you.

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Yeah, we should describe it for the listeners so we see what this poor woman

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had to see. I want you to describe it. I'll do that.

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Oh, I mean, okay. I mean, this is, okay. So guys, I suppose it's the dude on

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top. I imagine so. It'd be crazy if he was the guy on the bottom.

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I kind of wish it was the guy on the bottom. It's like the guy whose tender

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it is. There's a dude on, all right, this is Nogi. Guys wear a tank top.

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So his muscles are kind of pumping out. I guess that might help.

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Weirdly, in the background, there's another dude.

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Watching. Correct. There's a guy in the background in this picture,

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also wearing socks, by the way.

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Just like a pair of cargo shorts and socks, which is funny. But the guy who

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we assume the Tinder profile is for, you can't see his face,

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but he's like leaning in from top side control on an armbar.

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So his legs are sitting over the opponent's face and the opponent's face,

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like his face is very close to his balls. But that's normal,

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right? That's armbar stuff. It's just an armbar. That's just armbar stuff.

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And in this individual, in the theme of our conversation, this guy,

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the defendant, he's wearing socks.

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And so, yeah. Which again, he should be embarrassed about the socks.

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So tell me more about what you're looking for on here and also what's going

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on in that one pic on your dating profile with you putting a dude's face between your legs.

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LOL. He should have responded. He should have been like, yeah,

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babe, let me tell you all about that.

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The fact that she was willing to message him off of that picture,

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great. She must have been okay with his jacket-ness, I guess. Yeah, yeah.

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He does look kind of strong. He's in decent shape. He's in decent shape.

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He got muscles and veins on his bicep.

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You know, he must at least, that or he just has some really good...

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You know might is might actually have like other good pictures on his profile

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maybe oh yeah how many i don't know how many pictures i assume she was,

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interested in one of the other pictures because that one doesn't even show his

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face that's just like a dude yeah is she and i'm like,

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um i guess she doesn't know anything about grappling probably not i would assume

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so like she's not like oh you do jiu-jitsu that's so cool let's like what are

01:16:43.997 --> 01:16:47.557
you interested in like she's hitting him with a sincere question like what's

01:16:47.557 --> 01:16:48.961
up with that picture I mean,

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yeah we should interview a girl one of these days get her like a total non-jiu-jitsu

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girl and be like do you know anything if you saw this picture what would you

01:16:55.977 --> 01:16:59.527
think yeah tell me about jujitsu I would think even as a non-jiu-jitsu person

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like any person would look at it be like oh that's too like it doesn't,

01:17:03.077 --> 01:17:07.877
it looks like he's trying to grab his arm which maybe I'm so deep that it looks

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like some version of grappling I gotta think they would at least think it was some kind of a fight,

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I like that one of the guy in the background with the socks is awesome the guy

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just watching yeah why are they all wearing socks I do like that uh.

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One guy just says OP original poster is definitely not doing any type of BJJ

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I'm familiar with that's funny comment below that is this is the smell my asshole

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Akana that's awesome classic to force,

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subservience yeah and exert dominance over the weaker male asserting dominance

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yeah asserting dominance um I hope he's got a sense of humor I hope I mean I

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imagine did he follow up did he Did anyone ask if he got the date?

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I hope one of the dudes. They usually do. So, um...

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What? Let's see if he... They usually do ask. No one asked. I mean,

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this is on the Jiu-Jitsu Reddit.

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Nobody gets dates. He didn't get dates. Yeah, it's Reddit. People don't get dates.

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Oh, that's very funny. Homeboy didn't get the date.

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I hope he had a good sense of humor.

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He said, someone says, I guarantee a lot of people are swiping left based only

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on that photo. Is that the bad way? Does that mean they're...

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Yeah, it means they don't want to talk to you. No? That's enough.

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I'm learning a lot. I'm learning... That's a wild picture to post.

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It's not like the coolest picture to post. But, you know, whatever.

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It got a response out of this girl, so who am I to judge?

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He might have had other better pictures, but phenomenal.

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Someone says, I bet it would do great on, I bet it would do numbers on Grindr. It would.

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Yeah, he should, you should hit him up and be like, yo, did you get the date,

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dude? I do want to, I might. Fuck these haters. You'd be like, hey, screw these dorks.

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I'm going to do that right now, and then I'll follow up on it at a later date.

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He's like, we're married now.

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She trains with me. How do I, where's the thing? I mean, it's up to you.

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I'm going to, I'm going to respond to this. Yeah, I'm going to find out.

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But I want to comment. Can I comment?

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All right. Well, I'm not going to take more of your time with me trying to figure

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out technology, but I am going to. That's a good one.

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I am going to. That's a good combat confession.

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So if I hear if I do figure out a comment on this and I do find out I will follow up by the way.

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Nicky, one of the guys I train with, did say that we should start a IBJJF Missed

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Connections. Oh, that's funny.

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And like a BJJ dating show. So maybe we'll do that.

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This might be the kicking off point. Who knows, guys? Yeah, that's funny. Dude, how the hell do I?

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This has been Fighters Drinking Coffee, guys. This has been Fighters Drinking

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Coffee. Mike's trying to figure out. He can read Reddit, but he can't interact on Reddit.

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I'm not going to drag you down my technological illiteracy.

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It might just be locked at this point. Yeah, fuck it. Maybe he locked it because

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he is dating the girl and doesn't want her to find out.

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