(Ep 45) Jiu-Jitsu as Jazz: Finding Creativity Between the Moves

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Welcome back to fighters drinking coffee, guys.

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Yeah. So we're just going to get into it.

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Get into it.

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So for today's episode,

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I figured we would talk about creativity

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and self-expression in jujitsu.

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Kind of like how that.

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Can help you with learning.

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Can competition like all of it, right?

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Like just. It's.

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A liken, you know, jujitsu is a liken to an art form a lot

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and like a big part of art is self-expression, creativity, all of that.

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So I figure we kind of go down that pathway and,

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you know, we explore that.

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I mean, I think that would be kind of cool.

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It's also something I've been thinking about

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is like.

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The part outside of just like doing specific moves and stuff like that,

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just being creative in my jujitsu as well

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and just trying to kind of be more explorative and all of that.

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So I'd be kind of cool to talk about it, you know,

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kind of work through some things on it as well.

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So, yeah, so I guess like a question to start off

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or kind of a frame framing for it.

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It was something that kind of popped up through like the.

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The like CLA space.

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I was thinking about it, too. Yeah.

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Because that's I have thoughts on it.

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Yeah, like that, that like exploration of of position

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and like movement through areas of jujitsu.

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Like that's kind of where that thought process came up for me was like,

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you know, you watch the you watch games for CLA and like all of that stuff.

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And when or when you're doing doing games, right?

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Like you, you kind of have the ability

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to freestyle and just come up with new solutions.

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And so like I've been trying to focus on that.

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Like I'm out of out of season right now, at least for a couple more weeks.

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Before I have to start another camp.

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But, you know, like for the rest of this month, I'm just kind of trying to enjoy

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jujitsu. We were talking about that the other day when we were training to like,

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all right, let's just kind of like have fun with it.

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And it was cool, like even in that session,

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it led to a cool new drill that I'm going to test run tomorrow.

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Well. Last Friday was tomorrow for you.

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Tomorrow for me in our in real time.

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Yeah. But, you know, it's like I was just kind of trying to think of that.

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I don't know, like I have to say, yeah, excellent.

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Don't worry, buddy. Oh, I know you always have something to say.

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Dude, I've like I've like said this thing before, and I know I like.

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Coming up with phrases and stuff.

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So this one's a bit of a work in progress, but I think it applies

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to what we're talking about, dude,

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which is that I don't listen to jazz.

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But I've heard people say that like jazz is like listening

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in between the notes or whatever in between the yeah.

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However, that shit works.

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I use the jazz analogy for jiu jitsu all the time.

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Do you really? Yeah.

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Well, it's sort of like the jiu jitsu takes place in between the moves,

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so to speak, I think.

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So when you were like texting me about this thread, I'm like,

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this is a great thread.

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We can talk about this for a while, so we'll get some content out of it, homie.

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But but yeah, like my my stance or my view on this

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is that as you've indicated

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and with, I guess, this analogy is jazz analogy.

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You and dude, like when you prompted it, like you brought up CLA in the games.

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Yeah, I think that's why that's such a useful training device

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that Greg has gotten credit for and like people who are using that

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or have historically used that version of training

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get a lot of value out of.

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I know we have in our training and using that

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that framework or whatever, but it's really

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I think that works well because you can demo an armbar,

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you can demo a guard pass, you can demo all of these things,

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but it's like your ability to connect and kind of apply them

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within the range of movement.

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That you as the individual

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applying this and playing this game or sport or art,

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art of jujitsu, like you get to connect these things and actually apply them.

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And like most of this is why CLA makes sense, like showing disparate moves.

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I don't think it has no value, in my opinion, but.

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We've just done that as like a training mechanism,

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historically, to get people to like, all right, now go out and apply it,

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because like all of those disparate moves that you show

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have to be like set up and then delivered.

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And that's really where it's like the connectivity, the connective tissue

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between all of the things that you want a person to do.

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Like by the time if you're watching like a match or whatever,

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you see a guy get to an armbar or something, just an armbar as the example.

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He's done most of his work already.

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All the skill set was really in getting to it.

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Not like the finishing of the armbar, the highlight that you'll see

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isn't also awesome and it's not like a jujitsu stop there.

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But most of the work, all like the really impressive things

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was how that dude moved his way into this position where

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follow me on this example, this guy's about to win

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because of the way he expressed and kind of.

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Pressured and passed and worked his way into this compromising position.

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Well, I think it's also, you know, it's it's tough to explain to somebody like.

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How to move their body when you don't have it right,

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like how to move their body through all a million different scenarios

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to get to that position, right, like it's that is a hard thing to teach.

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Regardless of how good of a teacher or coach you are, like it's just

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there's too many what then you're just going to go down the rabbit hole.

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Right. But the thing that.

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CLA does well is create and they always use the

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you know, they use the terminology of like novelty, right, like giving them

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something, you know, creating novelty so that people can

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because that's what people enjoy and can learn from,

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which would be the games.

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But like, you know, creating, just forcing them into like,

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are you going to start here is what you're trying to do

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and just letting it all happen.

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But like you kind of just have to, you know,

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there's an amount of coaching and instruction, but like

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they have to experience some of that.

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You can't just you can't force that because then it still isn't real.

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Right. Like if you force that, that's in between.

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It's tough to teach the in between.

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That's the hard part about what we do, which I think is why, as you said,

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the CLA format is really useful for people to kind of figure that out

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themselves. And no two people move the exact same way.

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You'll see people who have like very similar like athletic profiles and stuff.

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And that's that's great where you can.

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Get that similarity between, you know, athletes and practitioners or whatever,

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but as you said, they have to fill in the gaps.

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And so like giving them a confines of a game format to do so

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works really well because I mean, dude, imagine having to like walk

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through every possible movement with a person like I mean, I've actually

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I've probably done that in like the many years that I've taught.

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And maybe it's worked a little bit.

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It's probably not worked to zero.

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Like it's probably worked somewhat, but

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that's hard. Yeah.

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And it's like a really long way to explain.

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So I think that's I think the concept behind like that games slash CLA

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teaching style is meant to like speed up the process for the person

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to sort of learn for themselves and fill in those gaps in between the notes.

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Jazz concept like, yeah, we're going to toss, toss you into this scenario.

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And like, I'm certain because I know this works when I've done it, it works.

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But I'm betting the other coaches.

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I was like, I give Greg credit for just because he's the guy who came out

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and really talked about a lot.

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He's not the first person to do it, but like he's

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I think we give him credit. He deserves it.

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Well, and he's he's the one that's educated, trying to educate people on

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why he doesn't like, you know, he has he has a lot of proof cases.

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And, you know, so it's a good he's a good person to credit.

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No, totally. No, no.

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But anyways, I just kind of I'll call him out and I give him credit for that.

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When when we talk about it.

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But what I like about that formatting, too, and like

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like a good drill, I call them drills still

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this, you know, drill, I don't know.

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It's like a lowercase d drill.

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Like anything you work on can be a drill, but whatever.

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Anyways, so if it's a drill, like a good drill

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will have a good game to use their language, I suppose.

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Will be like a use case for a person to extract,

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like not just like the tactical things

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we're discussing of pulling off like a closing,

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delivering on a move or whatever the theme of the game that you've set up is.

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Like, let's just say it's like half guard and you shield.

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We want to go chest to chest.

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That's one we've done before. Yeah.

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Anyways, like if you're like, you know, you basically your job

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for the next couple of minutes is just to try to like with with resistance,

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try to close the distance and smoosh your chest to the chest.

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If that's what you're going to do.

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And I just again, just use it as an example of like this is your deliverable

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and you give them like a start, like relatively around this position

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and then go from here and try to bridge that gap

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in doing that, if the person does that enough times,

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trains enough times and they get the value out of it,

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they'll pick up those tactical, small, but really impactful things.

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But the small and impactful things should should reveal to them bigger strategic

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or like structural philosophical principles that they'll.

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I guess my way of saying if you like take that one small thing

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and have a person do it enough times, they can get maximum value out of it.

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This could take months or years.

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So I like doing the same drills over and over and over again.

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I've always been a fan of that.

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I've always been a fan of like bringing some bring a person back

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to the same thing for a while.

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I mean, you structure a training session and weeks and months and years over time.

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Like I'm not saying this is the only thing they're going to do, but like

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you have a lot of time to work with and you get a person,

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you know, doing certain things repeatedly like they'll continue to get more out of it

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because like most people, if you give them five minutes to do a thing,

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that's not enough.

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Anyways, my my reason for bringing this up is because if like me

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and you do that knee shield drill over and over and over again,

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like the first time we do it, we'll pick up a couple of things.

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We might get two percent of the value out of that.

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That's actually a lot if you do it one time, five minutes.

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But as time goes on, like you'll continue to draw from that repetition

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of that game to say, you know, man, me and Mike have done this enough times.

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Now, what I've really learned from this is the principle of like distance

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and timing and leverage and this and that words we hear all the time.

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In Jiu-Jitsu, I would say like words like that, like this for me,

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because maybe I'm a dumb dumb, like when I first started doing it,

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like I would hear people say that type of shit, like leverage.

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And I'm like, what the fuck are you mean when you say leverage?

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Like, what is it?

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I just didn't my my framework for like understanding it in this environment

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wasn't developed.

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But like as time went on, I'm like, yeah, no, I kind of get what you're saying.

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And so like you need like that, like simple but valuable

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limitation exercise to help you gain those things.

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Like once you get, let's just say that's let's use that example.

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Continue with that example.

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Pardon me, me not understanding as like an early

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like a white belt or whatever, purple belt, maybe what leverage really meant.

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It's kind of a limitation in Jiu-Jitsu because leverage is fucking everything.

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Right. It's about every almost everything that we do involves

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like understanding capital L leverage and lowercase L leverage.

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Like leverage can be used in lots of words.

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Like that word has a lot of layers to it.

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Well, and like.

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It's like you're saying, like it's one of those things

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like the buzzwords that are getting thrown out.

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But until you really feel it and apply it for the first time,

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you don't really you have you don't understand the concept because.

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You know, you think you know what leverage is, you can pull it up

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in the dictionary, but like how it applies to like person to person is

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is vastly different.

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And like, you know, it's.

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I'm going to try not to like visualize stuff, like create

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for people to visualize things, but like, you know, like you.

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You. Don't really know it until, you know, like if you're doing John Wayne,

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I'm going to force you guys to visualize it, but you know that that's all

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like that little tiny lever like that, it's a hip lever.

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And so that you don't really know until you hit it the first time

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or like I explained to other people.

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I like to use the example of because I'm claiming is my signature move now.

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But the dorsal Kimura, right?

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Like everyone always complains about breaking that grip.

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And I'm like, you'll know the first time you feel that that grip break

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and you can free that free that arm, like free their arm out.

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You'll know, like once you feel that they don't have a grip anymore,

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like you just feel it, like you just know that that first time you feel it,

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you're like, oh, this this arm's mine now, like they no longer are able to stop me.

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And so, you know, there's just that like you just don't know

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until you experience it for the first time.

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And so a lot of those buzzwords are like that.

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A lot of like the jiu jitsu buzzwords that they use.

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Like you can say them to people all the time.

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Like, yeah, use your leverage.

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And they just you don't know until you know, it's just it's one of those things.

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And so like like you're saying, playing those playing those games

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and forcing people to experience jiu jitsu creates that.

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And so like.

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It's eye opening, too.

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Yeah. Like you said, to your point, like it's it sounds trite

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because we say this shit all the time, maybe because we've been doing this long

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after we actually do have an understanding of it.

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But like when you're early on, you might be like, all right, I hear this stuff.

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OK, I'm going to practice.

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I'm just going to go with it.

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But once once you get that, once the eyes open to that, you're like, oh, man.

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Well, dude, now that I and this is what I was trying to get across earlier,

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which was that like once that one training drill, one game

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gets you to that, like, oh, yeah, all right.

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Well, dude, that's kind of what I'm trying to do when I'm in a different scenario.

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And a different scenario and a different scenario.

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And you're a coach or instructor.

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You're like, yeah, there you go.

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So anyways, I also find from a coaching standpoint when

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when I have students like playing these games and stuff like that

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or going through drills that are like, you know, specific drills

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for positional and like the goal, the actual goals that they're trying to attain.

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You find a lot of cool teaching moments, too, because like they're doing

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the things that their body they want to do.

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And so you can like you can actually kind of get those specific,

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you know, in the concept of like creativity and self-expression.

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They're doing the things that they feel is right or they feel like is the way to go.

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And you can actually find one.

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You might find new new pathways because you're seeing all you know,

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you're seeing, you know, 20 different people do something

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and they're all doing it a slightly different way

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because their bodies move differently or whatever.

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But they also kind of create those key those key details themselves

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that you get to, you know, oh, yeah, no, like this was the point.

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This is the point that you need to make that decision or whatever.

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So there's a lot of cool little points of like.

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Those lightbulb moments that people will have or those teaching moments

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that pop up because they're doing these things in like a.

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Controlled, but live scenario, it's so just from like that self-expression.

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Yeah. And I'll stop cutting you off now.

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That's OK. They well, you know, like.

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We also might engineer a drill or a game with the with an idea in our head.

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This is one of the things to your point on creativity

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and it's sort of like why this is an art form,

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because there's depth to all of the things.

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There's so much depth in this martial art that we might go into it thinking,

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all right, well, let's do this game and here's why we want to do it.

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We have this one reason, this one thing we want them to learn.

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But there might be like 50.

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There's definitely 50 other things.

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So they might what I'm trying to get across here is like, you know,

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on the theme of creativity and like art, like it is an individual thing.

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I think we kind of talked about at the very beginning, which is that like,

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I guess my way of getting to this is that we might set up this drill and say,

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I want Mike to understand pressure that you should have.

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I wanted to drive through and smush my chest.

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So that guy could probably do that.

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Say this individual student X could be playing the game and kind of doing that,

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but they might see something completely different as they're doing it.

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It just might not get what we wanted out of it.

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Might not be what they get,

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but they may get like two to three other really useful things out of it, too,

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because it is an individual thing.

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I might say, hey, Mike, I really want you to pay attention to pressure

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that you might just walk around like, fuck, man.

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Well, it wasn't really the pressure that I got out of it.

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It was kind of like keying in on range.

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And granted, again, this is all a matter.

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I have the beholder. It's all like perspective to think about.

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And so what I would say, I guess, like maybe a call to action for us

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as coaches is to try to like keep things and this is.

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Certainly a creativity slash like frame of mind thing for

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for folks who are practicing and or instructing or doing both,

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which is that like we should keep an open mind.

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And just like you give people the tools and the keys and again, game CLA stuff.

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It's like you give them environments where they can learn things.

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And it's like if they were, they might walk with five things

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and none of them are what we wanted them to learn.

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But like, still, we got five things out of it. It's pretty good.

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Yeah. And like I, that's at least from

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I don't understand it as well as.

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Others might, but like that's the a little bit of the risk,

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but I think that's something you have to understand going into it.

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Like, I think that's a lot of the resistance.

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It's just turning into a CLA episode, but that's fine.

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But I think that's a lot of the resistance that people have

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because they don't want they want people to just get what they're trying to push on.

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And but like that's not possible when you put people in life scenarios, right?

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Like things just happen when both people like, you know,

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you always say the other person has a say, right?

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Like the other person has a vote.

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So I had a feeling it was going to come out.

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Yeah, it's going to drop.

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But so, you know, like the other person has a vote.

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So like if you give both people a goal.

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And they're both trying to accomplish it, like.

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You can't force them to do like they're going to both.

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Self-expression, I'm going to use buzzwords, you know, like

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they're going to create whatever scenarios allow them to get to their goal.

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And so it's very difficult to.

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Tell them, oh, well, you have to learn this concept.

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You have to understand that there's multiple concepts in that scenario.

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They're going to pick up one of them, like you're saying.

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But just to kind of like frame that from like both people are doing

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some form of expression of what they're trying to do,

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of jujitsu to try to accomplish their goal.

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You can only control that.

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You can only, you know, the constraints are what create the control.

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But like you can't try to then like over control it and be like,

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that's like, no, you're only allowed to do pressure.

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Learn this one thing when there's like five other things.

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It's like being at a buffet.

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And then you can only have that one item on the buffet.

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Well, if we go to the buffet, I'm like, you know, it's really, you know,

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that buffet, the picanha is also on the buffet.

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Like, well, I mean, I took a bite of it, but I actually ended up eating

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all this other shit, still a buffet.

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But yeah, I don't know.

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Maybe that applies.

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Brazilian steakhouse, the picanha comes around one time.

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But I like that cheesy bread stuff, man.

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That was awesome.

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Anyways, filled up. Yeah, dude, you're right.

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I mean, I think that's like that's sort of the challenge and the role of the coach

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is like you and yeah, just have an open mind.

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Look, at the end of the day, like I guess my thought process

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and all of that is like just this goes back to that thing.

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I've said a bunch of times, as long as people keep showing up,

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the frequency is that they'll pick up.

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They'll end up eating all the items in the buffet.

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Just keep showing up to the buffet.

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Yeah. Keep munching. Right.

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It's a cruise ship. You can try everything.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You'll circulate through all of it and you'll just just keep showing up.

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You got to eat. You got to train.

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But yeah, to your point, like as the coach, I think it's also like at that point,

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like, well, you know, like imagine showing up in a training room

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and there are a lot of coaches who will do this.

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A lot of like definitely top down, like do it like this.

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Do it like this.

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I think maybe sometimes that's OK.

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Like, no, no, no. I need you guys.

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Like that would be useful if you're having like a really informed conversation

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with the student that, you know, needs to imagine like after a comp season.

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I'm like, Mike, you got to do this one thing.

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Yeah. Just for me, even just for like, you know, a month or a couple of weeks,

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a couple of days out of the month.

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Really key on this one thing, that's an informed conversation with a coach,

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right, versus and this kind of goes back to I think what you're saying about like,

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hey, this is a good like reset type of type of time to to be like,

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you don't have to do everything so rigidly at the moment.

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Rigidity is the I think the point here, which is that like this

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to kind of depends on the student and like the student and the coach

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and the dynamic there and the goal and what they're working on.

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But like this stuff, training should be fun.

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I think I'd sent you that.

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I sent a few folks.

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You were one of them who got like that little Q&A sheet for 2026.

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And at the bottom of it, I think I put down like, how we keep this fun.

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Yeah. Yeah, dude.

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Like it should still be fun.

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Like you should you should have.

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I think even like a perhaps even more important

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for like a competitive athlete.

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Because of what I said earlier about like, keep showing up,

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just keep being consistent on the mat, like

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everything shouldn't be so, so, so formulaic

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because that gets a little boring, dude.

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Like it's good to have like a little bit of embedded like wiggle room time.

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Like you're just going to roll.

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I'll often like tell folks who are newer competitors or

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mid-tier competitors, it doesn't matter what competitors in general that like,

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you know, when you're on the mat throughout the week and you have like

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however many hours or how many rounds by the end of the stage,

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50 sparring rounds a week or whatever, say 50.

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And if you're competing pretty soon, all right.

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Like a good amount of those 50 rounds should be.

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Rounds that will replicate what how you want to compete,

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meaning go to that round and try to win it.

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But let's like I've I've often like for like new folks who maybe aren't

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like full on competitive, they want to compete for the first time.

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I always tell them, let's all just go 50, 50.

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Alternate it.

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Comp round, flow, fun round, comp round.

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Example would be like if we're all always redefining our game

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in quotes for a tournament, when you go into game mode in a tournament,

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like you're going to play your game, you're going to play like a game

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plan, you're going to review like I'm going to take him down

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on the passage and I'm going to submit him from back there.

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Like that's my game plan.

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So like we'll go in trying to limit what the other person does.

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We're basically imposing our limits on that other person,

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like this is where I want the fight to be and this is how I'm going to do it.

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So if you have like a comp round, you might just do that over and over

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and over again just to continue to refine that better and better and better

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while the other person, as we discussed, already gets their vote.

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They're trying to stop you. Right.

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But really, that's all you're doing.

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Potentially. Let's use an example.

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Lots of people have.

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I'm sure you ask.

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I can ask like five different like high level black belt coaches.

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They might all have different ways of doing that.

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But like I think you get what I'm saying.

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All right. Well, like if we only I mean, I've done this.

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You've probably done this.

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Like we've I've gone through bouts of time where like I just like

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all my training has been like train to win, train to win, train to win.

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Fine for a little while.

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But like mix that in with like, all right.

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Like like I said, this is just something I've done.

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And I often I'll just make the recommendation to people where I'm like,

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you know, just you got like an open mat session, split it 50 50.

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You maybe even have some fun with it.

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If like you're like, hey, I'm like, I just had a.

467
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,780
Five win bracket to get to gold, so like if I've got 10 rounds on an open mat,

468
00:24:26,199 --> 00:24:28,939
half of those I can just like simulate tell myself, I'm like, I got to go.

469
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,239
I got to win five back to back matches.

470
00:24:31,699 --> 00:24:35,040
And my five my five rounds of my open mat to like get my gold medal.

471
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,939
And then once I've done my gold medal, then I'll be like, all right,

472
00:24:36,939 --> 00:24:38,920
five rounds will be fun, though. Yeah.

473
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,979
I'll still try to win them or I'll do I'll do something different.

474
00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:43,079
I'll do like B game shit, C game shit.

475
00:24:43,479 --> 00:24:46,020
You know, let the other dude kind of smash and pass my guard

476
00:24:46,020 --> 00:24:47,380
and then I'll just play defense.

477
00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:48,680
I think you get what I'm saying, right?

478
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,020
We're just kind of like some rounds.

479
00:24:50,020 --> 00:24:51,380
I'm like, oh, I'm going to be really competitive.

480
00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:52,579
I am giving up no points.

481
00:24:52,579 --> 00:24:54,579
I'm going to submit this to you as many times as possible.

482
00:24:54,579 --> 00:24:55,920
Other rounds, I'll be like, all right, cool.

483
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,140
Like that really was effective for my offense.

484
00:24:59,739 --> 00:25:01,040
Let's do something different. Let's do defense.

485
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,439
Maybe I'll like help out a teammate.

486
00:25:02,439 --> 00:25:04,420
Maybe me and Mike are going or me or whoever.

487
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,760
I'm like, dude, do your thing now and then I'll respond to it.

488
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,099
So you see what I'm saying?

489
00:25:08,099 --> 00:25:09,959
Yeah. Yeah. A way to like work the.

490
00:25:09,959 --> 00:25:12,000
That was all about experimenting.

491
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,119
Don't be so rigid all the time, especially like when you get really good to

492
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,219
like if you can constantly beat the shit out of everyone like cool, man.

493
00:25:18,219 --> 00:25:18,819
That's great.

494
00:25:18,819 --> 00:25:22,420
But, you know, you got to you got to find a way to change the game up,

495
00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:25,199
change your training and find new things, because like otherwise

496
00:25:25,199 --> 00:25:27,459
you're just beating people and it gets boring.

497
00:25:27,459 --> 00:25:31,119
Well, you know, that's like that can be long term.

498
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,619
That can also be detrimental to you, too.

499
00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:37,119
Yeah, because then you're just you just do the same thing over and over again.

500
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,000
And you got to see some different.

501
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,420
Yeah, just that's the word.

502
00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:44,819
I think what one thing I've been what I think I'm going to do this year

503
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,199
as a way to like keep things interesting and like

504
00:25:49,099 --> 00:25:52,900
like keep that creative outlet open while in season is like

505
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:55,199
I'm going to try to pick like leading up to each comp.

506
00:25:55,199 --> 00:25:59,060
I'm going to try to pick one thing like I'm going to add this to my game

507
00:25:59,060 --> 00:26:00,260
so I can just try to like.

508
00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:05,699
Have some way of experimenting and, you know, adding something new,

509
00:26:05,699 --> 00:26:08,239
especially like this, you know.

510
00:26:08,459 --> 00:26:11,060
I'm not going to go into that, but, you know, like as a way to like

511
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,260
have some some way to create something, because I mean,

512
00:26:15,459 --> 00:26:18,260
I tell people all the time kind of back on the jazz thing, like

513
00:26:18,699 --> 00:26:21,760
I do like two moves and everything in the middle is just jazz.

514
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,640
That's what I how I always tell people that because like it's like, yeah,

515
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,959
I have like the guard pass I do and then stuff happens

516
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,599
and then I end up in the position I submit people from.

517
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:34,739
And like, that's just that's jujitsu.

518
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,939
But like, you know, so like that way, there's.

519
00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:44,739
Oh, well, now instead of going to my Kimura set up,

520
00:26:44,739 --> 00:26:48,099
I'm going to try to, you know, I'm going to try to get there this way.

521
00:26:48,099 --> 00:26:51,300
Instead, I'm going to add this thing in or I want to start doing Mountmore,

522
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,339
like just try to come up with some sort of.

523
00:26:54,459 --> 00:26:57,500
Thing that I want to add, like, you know, creating a goal

524
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,079
so that there's something to work towards.

525
00:27:00,579 --> 00:27:02,000
You want to make it ready for game day?

526
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,099
Yeah. Like rather than just doing the same thing over and over again.

527
00:27:05,099 --> 00:27:07,880
And like, all right, we're just trying to get in shape for a cop, right?

528
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,839
Like at some point, it just turns into that if you keep it too rigid.

529
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,880
So, you know, that way, have some sort of like creative outlet for each one.

530
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,800
And like, you know, it gives me a way to still like have that self-expression

531
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,479
like during rolling and practices and stuff like that.

532
00:27:23,479 --> 00:27:27,439
Like I have something that I'm working on and like kind of playing with.

533
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,839
So that I have it gives me something to do in those other 50 percent.

534
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,199
Yeah. So what keeps training from getting stale?

535
00:27:35,239 --> 00:27:38,380
Yeah. Because if you like you said, if you just did the two

536
00:27:38,939 --> 00:27:42,479
bookends of the world, like your goals for like.

537
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:46,599
How you beat everyone, like I pass the guard,

538
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:49,000
I wait, no, wait, no, wait, and then I grab the arm and rip it off.

539
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,380
You know, I'm not saying that's what you do, but like if it was all right,

540
00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:55,040
like you keep doing that, but like, why not also add another thing?

541
00:27:55,380 --> 00:27:58,880
And that prior framework might get kind of boring to you.

542
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,119
Like you just get to where you could do it all the time.

543
00:28:01,979 --> 00:28:04,579
And sometimes I do. Yeah.

544
00:28:04,579 --> 00:28:08,680
Well, I mean, like it gets it gets repetitive.

545
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,579
Yeah. Yeah. So can you just give me something else?

546
00:28:11,819 --> 00:28:14,339
You know, like how about like I'll just I'll give you an example,

547
00:28:14,339 --> 00:28:16,839
like I'm like a year and a half, maybe two years now.

548
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:19,339
I've decided I was like, dude, like I haven't been crap at Mount.

549
00:28:19,420 --> 00:28:20,479
I'm a black belt in Jiu Jitsu.

550
00:28:20,479 --> 00:28:21,979
He's competed a bunch of times.

551
00:28:21,979 --> 00:28:24,280
I'm like, man, I'm not kind of shitty, dude.

552
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,819
And so I decided I was like, you know what, when and where I can.

553
00:28:27,819 --> 00:28:29,760
And I made it. I made it.

554
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,660
I went on my way to do it.

555
00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:33,420
I made it a goal to say I'm going to get more riding time out

556
00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:34,719
to where I can smash people.

557
00:28:34,719 --> 00:28:37,359
I'm out like my mouth was fucked up.

558
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,180
It's like the second best position in Jiu Jitsu.

559
00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:41,160
Why am I so bad at this? It's supposed to be good.

560
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,180
I suck at this.

561
00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:44,660
So anyways, well, I just went there. I spent time there.

562
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,619
Yeah, it's like, well, like you don't really unless you sit there

563
00:28:47,619 --> 00:28:50,979
and just try to hold Mount, you don't figure out how to hold Mount. Right.

564
00:28:50,979 --> 00:28:52,959
Like, well, you said it just said it.

565
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,939
I knew I was bad at Mount.

566
00:28:54,939 --> 00:28:57,099
I was like, well, I'm not even really doing it that much.

567
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,699
That's why I'm not good at it.

568
00:28:59,699 --> 00:29:02,099
It was relatively simple.

569
00:29:02,099 --> 00:29:05,500
And so far as like the logic behind it was like totally valid was like, duh.

570
00:29:05,939 --> 00:29:07,359
Well, I'm always doing this other shit.

571
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:08,660
That other shit works.

572
00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:11,040
But like it's one thing that I should be able to do. I'm not doing it.

573
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,300
So like, all right. So I spent some time in Mount.

574
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,459
And then in twenty twenty five, I was able to use Mount

575
00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:18,040
submit people from Mount in tournaments.

576
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,199
So like, all right, right on the work paid off.

577
00:29:20,439 --> 00:29:21,640
And I just made it.

578
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,099
I made it an objective to spend time doing something I know is valuable.

579
00:29:28,239 --> 00:29:32,140
And I put in enough time to be able to apply it when I needed it.

580
00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:33,979
So, yeah, like it.

581
00:29:33,979 --> 00:29:36,579
Otherwise, like it just gets stale.

582
00:29:36,579 --> 00:29:39,339
And then like we as competitors become stale, we become predictable.

583
00:29:39,339 --> 00:29:42,140
So like, yeah, like, yeah, people can watch your tape

584
00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:44,680
and every single tape looks exactly the same.

585
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,900
And you've talked about it off camera even before this, like you're going to run

586
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,239
into some of the same guys here pretty soon, right?

587
00:29:50,239 --> 00:29:54,640
Like our divisions are like there's a anyone can show up to.

588
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,839
But it's also like there's going to be some familiar names.

589
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,180
And so people all know each other. Right.

590
00:29:58,180 --> 00:30:00,939
So like, how can we stage it's a little bit unpredictable.

591
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,040
And so, yeah, dude, it's like if you don't adapt, you will die.

592
00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:08,640
So like we got to adapt a little bit.

593
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,479
And like this is kind of like the fun thing about like talking

594
00:30:11,479 --> 00:30:14,079
to self-expressionist art forms are forms always evolving,

595
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:17,040
whether you are participating in the evolution or not.

596
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,780
And if you go out and compete, you'll be exposed

597
00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:23,780
or you'll at least see other people be exposed.

598
00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:28,839
And so like we actually have to hold ourselves accountable to continue

599
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:32,280
to like at least take in the data, like taking the data and say, man, do I

600
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,079
like other people are doing this?

601
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:37,140
I'm seeing some things happen. Like, do I need to do that, too?

602
00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:38,500
All right. Maybe you do. Maybe you don't.

603
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:41,880
But I should at least kind of experiment and play around and figure that out.

604
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,880
So I think it's like you just you have to impose that discipline

605
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,619
and accountability on yourself to always be reassessing what you do

606
00:30:48,619 --> 00:30:50,359
and how you do it.

607
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:51,859
And you still may be able to pull off this.

608
00:30:51,859 --> 00:30:54,160
Like, I mean, I can talk about like they're there.

609
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,420
They're guys like really high level guys who I've trained with.

610
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,859
For years, even to this day, you kind of still do the same four or five things

611
00:31:01,859 --> 00:31:03,260
and it still works.

612
00:31:03,260 --> 00:31:07,219
Oh, yeah. And that's cool for them, man, because like it just hasn't stopped

613
00:31:07,219 --> 00:31:09,979
working yet because they're just that good at it.

614
00:31:09,979 --> 00:31:11,979
And that that's great.

615
00:31:11,979 --> 00:31:15,319
But for those of us who are less gifted,

616
00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:18,859
you know, like the limitations of like our abilities

617
00:31:18,859 --> 00:31:21,619
when we go out in these tournaments or in the training room, like, oh, crap, man.

618
00:31:21,619 --> 00:31:22,619
Like, well, that might work really.

619
00:31:22,619 --> 00:31:25,119
But this dude seems to be able to figure out how to do four things.

620
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:26,619
And that's all I need to do.

621
00:31:26,619 --> 00:31:29,219
Credit to him. But like, unfortunately, for better or worse, I'm not that guy.

622
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,119
This is going back to what we talked about, RJ, months ago,

623
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,020
about the adaptation where he's he's constantly like auditing.

624
00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:36,920
He's like, fuck, I can't do X, Y and Z.

625
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,520
So his his ability to like take in data and adapt and make a change.

626
00:31:40,719 --> 00:31:44,400
That's why I was like kind of like I was like, you know, cream of my jeans

627
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,719
and talking about how useful the skill that is, because it is a really cool skill.

628
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,160
I think that's a more valuable skill than just being like

629
00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:54,660
kind of an immovable object when you're out there, because like eventually

630
00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:56,800
someone will expose those dudes that I'm talking about.

631
00:31:57,219 --> 00:32:00,560
Yeah, eventually they'll run into that level of competition and talent.

632
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,800
But like if they're not accustomed to the exercise of having to adapt,

633
00:32:04,819 --> 00:32:06,359
they might struggle, man.

634
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,260
Yeah. I mean, like there's happens all the time.

635
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,199
We I was talking with I was talking to someone about that,

636
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,359
not specifically with jiu jitsu, but just like.

637
00:32:17,859 --> 00:32:20,260
I'll we were talking about Bo Nickel.

638
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:26,199
OK. Because, you know, he had lost that UFC fight

639
00:32:26,199 --> 00:32:31,959
and like kind of fell off for a second there and like went back to RAF,

640
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:33,300
like went back to wrestling.

641
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:36,459
And I was like, I was telling John

642
00:32:37,459 --> 00:32:42,339
about this and I was like, yeah, like I was kind of worried that not worry.

643
00:32:42,339 --> 00:32:45,739
But I kind of expected him to not go back to the UFC

644
00:32:45,739 --> 00:32:49,699
because he was that guy that was always so good at what he was doing.

645
00:32:49,699 --> 00:32:51,140
He was an amazing wrestler.

646
00:32:51,140 --> 00:32:53,199
He went into international competition.

647
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,560
But like once he hit that first roadblock in international competition

648
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,400
for wrestling, he dropped out and went to the UFC.

649
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,760
And I was like, I was I kind of expected because he was so used to being the best.

650
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,540
You know that once he hit that time where he realized he wasn't the best,

651
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,199
I kind of expected him to drop out.

652
00:33:12,199 --> 00:33:15,000
But at the same time, I was glad to see he came back like to.

653
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:17,599
But so like that's the thing you have to worry about, right?

654
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:21,939
Like with those guys that are if you don't have the ability to adapt or you're,

655
00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:25,599
you know, once your thing isn't working, you just think you're done.

656
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:29,839
That's you know, that's kind of the it's like the classic talent.

657
00:33:30,099 --> 00:33:34,040
Yeah, it's hard work, you know, fucking paradigm or whatever,

658
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,540
where it's like these really talented dudes used to having to work as hard.

659
00:33:37,579 --> 00:33:39,180
Yeah. Like what works for them?

660
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:40,979
What do you do when something stops working?

661
00:33:40,979 --> 00:33:42,619
But I always put it. It's always works.

662
00:33:42,619 --> 00:33:43,680
And now it doesn't work, I guess.

663
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,739
It's just like the sport's stupid.

664
00:33:45,739 --> 00:33:47,780
Now, yeah, this thing's done.

665
00:33:47,780 --> 00:33:50,939
But yeah, but you know, like that was I get what you're asking for sure.

666
00:33:50,979 --> 00:33:52,280
Yeah, that does happen.

667
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,119
Yeah. I mean, there's plenty, you know, there's plenty of people

668
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:58,719
that that happens with or like, you know, those guys that are unwilling to adapt

669
00:33:58,719 --> 00:34:00,420
are always just going to fall to the wayside.

670
00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:03,640
And once their thing stops working, they're just out of it.

671
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,319
And they're, you know, because they just don't want to put in the effort

672
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:11,080
of adapting to it or just don't have that skill of adapting what you're saying.

673
00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:13,580
Woe to the unadaptable.

674
00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:16,620
But I'll move it back to all shifted back

675
00:34:16,620 --> 00:34:20,439
because I had a point on the fun thing or just an example. Yeah.

676
00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:26,040
So as a way to like force, force, fun,

677
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,879
force it, have I'm going to have fun, damn it.

678
00:34:29,959 --> 00:34:34,260
Smile. But in those of you who are listening, you probably are going to be

679
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,719
those who come to my class on Tuesday mornings, if you listen to this

680
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,260
on your drive, you'll be playing this right afterwards.

681
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,419
You should make it hard.

682
00:34:41,419 --> 00:34:43,120
Oh, you should make it. You will have fun.

683
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,659
Otherwise, I won't get promoted.

684
00:34:44,659 --> 00:34:46,860
But so not the fun. They have to listen to the show.

685
00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:50,360
No, no, just you must listen to the show, which is fun.

686
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,360
Yeah, this we have fun here.

687
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,419
Damn it. Yeah.

688
00:34:54,419 --> 00:34:57,620
I will not recommend you for stripes if you don't listen to my podcast.

689
00:34:57,620 --> 00:35:00,020
You need it. You need like a I told this to a scene this week.

690
00:35:00,020 --> 00:35:01,260
Do you need to put up like a picture?

691
00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:03,860
Jason, he probably wants to do this.

692
00:35:03,860 --> 00:35:06,600
Put up a picture of yourself like Kim Jong-un, like your leader.

693
00:35:06,919 --> 00:35:08,219
You have to. Yeah.

694
00:35:08,219 --> 00:35:09,860
Michael, like the Craig Jones.

695
00:35:09,860 --> 00:35:11,419
Yeah, I love that. Craig Jones picture.

696
00:35:11,419 --> 00:35:12,500
I think that's so funny.

697
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:17,699
Do salute to do their kiss, like bow to my feet and like, you know, worship me.

698
00:35:18,419 --> 00:35:20,100
Make them do that.

699
00:35:20,959 --> 00:35:22,060
It might be a little much for me.

700
00:35:22,060 --> 00:35:24,899
It's just an idea. But anyways, but

701
00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:28,540
but outside of the worshiping me, don't.

702
00:35:28,540 --> 00:35:33,239
But but so we we play this game in the mornings.

703
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,239
I'm bringing it back.

704
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,800
We used to play it with the the other and the other coach, other morning coach.

705
00:35:40,340 --> 00:35:43,439
So we have flashcards that have like one move on it.

706
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,500
So it's either one submission or like one

707
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:52,080
or like I even have some where it's just like just stall on top.

708
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,060
So like there's there's a bunch of different ones you're partnered or you're

709
00:35:56,060 --> 00:35:58,860
you know, your partner for each round doesn't know what you have.

710
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:00,360
So you have one.

711
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,659
I want to add an adaption, but I'll get to it after the description.

712
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,379
You each have a move. So

713
00:36:07,580 --> 00:36:10,159
it's a game, not it's kind of it's that's a game.

714
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:13,959
It's more broad than it's not quite as constrained as you like.

715
00:36:13,959 --> 00:36:14,879
It's just a live round.

716
00:36:14,879 --> 00:36:16,679
This is a lowercase G game.

717
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:20,379
Yeah, and actually just a game for like we're not putting on a hat.

718
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,520
Like we're not putting on a hat for CLA.

719
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,959
The CLA would game is a totally poo poo this.

720
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,879
Maybe they wouldn't.

721
00:36:26,879 --> 00:36:28,520
They might because I think it is fun. Continue.

722
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,719
But it's fun. This is this is a fun game is a game for fun, not specific.

723
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,020
Like there's a there's a I get a learning aspect to it.

724
00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:39,459
But this is this is you know, this is just something to play.

725
00:36:41,219 --> 00:36:43,919
But so like you each have your secret move,

726
00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:46,459
and that's the only thing that you're trying to accomplish,

727
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,100
regardless of, you know, like where you are.

728
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,399
You have to find a way to get to this thing and do it. Right.

729
00:36:53,399 --> 00:36:59,000
So it's edging on CLA, but it's not quite constrained enough.

730
00:36:59,340 --> 00:37:02,000
It's just a live round. And like, I want to do this.

731
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,560
It's more like training for competition where it's like,

732
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,560
I need to do this one thing. This is the only thing I can do. Right. Like

733
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:13,399
and so, you know, you might have like armbar and but your other

734
00:37:13,540 --> 00:37:18,399
your partner has hold Mount and you're trying to hit armbars

735
00:37:18,399 --> 00:37:20,300
and you have to figure out how to get to an armbar. Right.

736
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:21,580
Like, but they're on top of you.

737
00:37:22,879 --> 00:37:25,879
So, you know, like there's all these different ones.

738
00:37:25,879 --> 00:37:28,699
I have it to the point where some of them are super specific

739
00:37:28,699 --> 00:37:31,840
or it's like you have to armbar somebody from back control

740
00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:37,800
to very broad, like, you know, I have some that are just

741
00:37:38,739 --> 00:37:42,239
past the guard or

742
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,479
some are just wildcard, do whatever you want. Right.

743
00:37:45,540 --> 00:37:50,179
So it's a way for like people to have a goal to work towards in the rounds

744
00:37:50,179 --> 00:37:56,179
and like take rolling and make it instructional and, you know, educational

745
00:37:56,179 --> 00:38:00,879
in a very specific way versus just like, you know, free flow.

746
00:38:02,179 --> 00:38:05,580
Whatever happens, whatever happens is, but it does give people

747
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,939
it still gives people that like creative outlet because now you're trying to

748
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,739
figure out how to you're trying to create the scenario that you need to get to

749
00:38:13,919 --> 00:38:16,879
from wherever the other wherever you are.

750
00:38:17,739 --> 00:38:20,540
The other person still has something they're trying to do to you.

751
00:38:20,540 --> 00:38:24,219
So it's not, you know, like you're in, you have to

752
00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:27,520
you just pass the guard, go to this, do the do the move like you.

753
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,040
They're trying to do something completely different from you.

754
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,620
They might have a similar move to which is even harder

755
00:38:33,979 --> 00:38:37,820
if you both have armbar, you know, you're both trying to hit armbar.

756
00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:40,620
Someone like an armbar that can be trickier, too,

757
00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:42,959
because you're both trying to be in roughly the same positions.

758
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:47,719
So like it creates this live scenario where you'll have like a goal

759
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,560
and you're trying to make up a way to get there.

760
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,919
So like it forces the jazz and the jujitsu forces people out of their comfort zone.

761
00:38:53,919 --> 00:38:56,320
You can't. So like it's it's fun.

762
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,860
I want to add an additional twist to it, though, where knives every time.

763
00:39:01,899 --> 00:39:03,459
Oh, that would be crazy.

764
00:39:03,459 --> 00:39:04,959
That's a different twist. OK.

765
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,500
Every time you if you hit your move

766
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:11,340
and your partner does it, you get to take their move

767
00:39:11,939 --> 00:39:14,159
and you get to collect more moves, they'll draw a new one.

768
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:15,860
I have enough that they should be able to do it.

769
00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:17,600
But then you can collect moves.

770
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,560
Oh, that's kind of so now you have multiple moves that you can try to do.

771
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,500
I got an incentive.

772
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:23,939
So like this is like two point.

773
00:39:23,939 --> 00:39:26,899
Oh, I want people to be battling, battling it out.

774
00:39:26,899 --> 00:39:28,760
I have to see if I have enough cards by the end of this.

775
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,500
But you always get more.

776
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:31,239
I'll know on Tuesday. I might have to make more.

777
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,040
That's fine.

778
00:39:32,659 --> 00:39:34,540
But I think that'll be fun.

779
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:35,040
That is fun.

780
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,340
I think that's a fun way to, like, get creative in your roles and like.

781
00:39:39,439 --> 00:39:40,939
I don't know, it forces it,

782
00:39:40,939 --> 00:39:44,020
forcing you to have fun in the role versus like just doing the same.

783
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,540
It's different, but I like it.

784
00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:47,120
And it's still jujitsu. God damn it.

785
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,120
Yeah. Yeah. We're forcing the jazz. Have fun.

786
00:39:50,580 --> 00:39:53,919
But yeah, like I said, that's a that's kind of like an example

787
00:39:53,919 --> 00:39:58,340
of a of one of those fun, fun roles, you know, like the other 50 percent. So.

788
00:40:00,580 --> 00:40:04,520
But on another note, on the self-expression thing, right?

789
00:40:04,580 --> 00:40:09,919
Like I was having this this conversation with Jason of like,

790
00:40:10,540 --> 00:40:14,520
because we're you know, we were doing our review, like reviewing the season

791
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,139
and stuff and like, you know, we're talking about stuff.

792
00:40:17,139 --> 00:40:21,120
But like one of one of the things he talked about was like, yeah, like you have,

793
00:40:21,739 --> 00:40:25,840
you know, you like to scramble and that can either be good or bad.

794
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,120
But you don't have to stop doing scrambling

795
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,179
because that's how you express jujitsu like that, like being mobile and active.

796
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,919
Is. Your self-expression, like so there's those little

797
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:44,080
it's kind of it can also be how you find what your game is

798
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,620
and like a game you enjoy playing

799
00:40:47,219 --> 00:40:51,040
because you can have these moments within, you know,

800
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,340
like your jazz moments and all of that, but like.

801
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,780
You also want to have fun doing it like.

802
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,280
And so that that's kind of where the self-expression comes in

803
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,219
in the ways that you you put jujitsu into the world, right?

804
00:41:05,219 --> 00:41:10,820
Like how you put it out there is I mean, it's important because we're doing this.

805
00:41:11,479 --> 00:41:12,679
Yeah, it's a sport.

806
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:17,260
We do it competitively like we take it seriously.

807
00:41:17,959 --> 00:41:22,520
But at the same time, like this, this could be another topic for another day.

808
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,020
But like sometimes the sport takes itself way too seriously and.

809
00:41:27,959 --> 00:41:31,860
You should have fun out there, like it's not like we're getting paid

810
00:41:31,860 --> 00:41:36,260
millions of dollars to get a role like at that point, maybe that'd be pretty fun.

811
00:41:36,260 --> 00:41:38,560
But at that point, we'll take it only seriously.

812
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,500
Sure, sure. But you know, like you should have fun with it.

813
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:45,600
Like you should enjoy what you're doing, not just like.

814
00:41:46,919 --> 00:41:48,860
Oh, I need to do these.

815
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:53,659
I need to only do the things that work because otherwise I'm going to lose them.

816
00:41:53,659 --> 00:41:55,500
I'm not going to get my medal at the end of the day.

817
00:41:55,500 --> 00:42:00,439
Well, I mean, yes, but no, do like you still need to do your jujitsu,

818
00:42:00,439 --> 00:42:02,000
go out there and like do the stuff you do.

819
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,939
You don't have to like emulate someone else

820
00:42:03,939 --> 00:42:05,639
because you think that's what will win the medals.

821
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:11,080
So express yourself in the words of that musical artist.

822
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,000
I'm on my phone. I can't look at that.

823
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,040
But express yourself.

824
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,340
Yeah. Well, yeah, I think you said it well, man.

825
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:23,139
I feel like what like what you're doing as a coach,

826
00:42:23,139 --> 00:42:24,719
what you're doing as a coach, when you like bring people in,

827
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,280
you try to like impose ideas on them is really just meant to get an individual

828
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,840
to a point where they like, as you said, do it their way.

829
00:42:32,540 --> 00:42:37,780
Yeah, it's basically you just you expose them to enough information in time.

830
00:42:39,379 --> 00:42:42,520
Put the two together and then eventually these guys will get the understanding

831
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,879
and then they'll have their own game.

832
00:42:43,879 --> 00:42:48,919
It's like figure this out, like how figure out how you can and should do jujitsu.

833
00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:51,879
And you will just just take time.

834
00:42:52,219 --> 00:42:53,820
Yeah, you're giving them consistency.

835
00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:56,760
You're giving them the information that they need to then.

836
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,719
You know, translate it to whatever works for them, right?

837
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,419
Like I told this to Andrea recently

838
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,719
when she got her brown belt, even though it was true before that.

839
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,120
But I was like, look, you're a brown belt now.

840
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,659
Like, you know, I think you officially know jujitsu.

841
00:43:11,479 --> 00:43:15,719
So like you, you're like qualified to like vote slash weigh in

842
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,719
on like how things should play out.

843
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,719
Like you're just you're educated enough on this.

844
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,520
You're experienced enough to know.

845
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,060
Granted, like, well, we still ask questions, still work on things together.

846
00:43:26,060 --> 00:43:30,459
I feel like dumb answers, but like, you know, you know, shit, you know, plenty.

847
00:43:30,459 --> 00:43:33,659
So, hey, like, what do you think?

848
00:43:34,060 --> 00:43:36,100
You know, like this is like you don't like this.

849
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:37,659
I'm not like talking to a white or a blue belt

850
00:43:37,659 --> 00:43:41,020
who I feel like doesn't really have the the data yet

851
00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:43,120
to make an informed opinion on things.

852
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,320
Your opinion is informed, man.

853
00:43:45,659 --> 00:43:48,560
Yeah. We're not working together on this.

854
00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:50,540
You've earned the right of self-assessment.

855
00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:52,100
That's right. Yeah, that's what I have.

856
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:54,000
Like the you have the background knowledge.

857
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,500
Yeah. And you've put in the time and you've proven it.

858
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:58,760
And the data is out there that you can do that.

859
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,540
You've demonstrated that.

860
00:43:59,540 --> 00:44:02,500
So and like, you know, she's compete.

861
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,899
She competes, obviously.

862
00:44:03,899 --> 00:44:07,600
It's not the only way to do this, but it's certainly a really good way

863
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,760
to, I think, accelerate that learning.

864
00:44:09,899 --> 00:44:12,639
That's really just an awareness and knowledge thing for when someone's like,

865
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:17,100
hey, like you're at that level now, like we're like you're you've got your jujitsu.

866
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:18,780
Like this is what I do when I show things.

867
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:21,280
This is what I this is what works for me.

868
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,280
But that's kind of like almost like the way I'll explain it differently to other folks.

869
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:26,899
I explain it that way to like anybody, even when I put something else.

870
00:44:26,899 --> 00:44:31,580
But, you know, like you're at that point now where it's like this is just

871
00:44:31,580 --> 00:44:34,439
just because I do this a certain way doesn't mean you're going to do it like that.

872
00:44:34,439 --> 00:44:38,100
Like the will I'll demonstrate a thing.

873
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:42,239
And like the way I do it will have some value insofar as like.

874
00:44:43,439 --> 00:44:45,979
That other person here, Andrea, just using her as an example,

875
00:44:45,979 --> 00:44:48,679
because she's different, she's different than me.

876
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:51,320
Duh. You know, we what?

877
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,179
You're different than me. Oh, duh.

878
00:44:53,179 --> 00:44:56,520
But anyways, you get the idea like like, hey, like I'm going to show this

879
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,820
like, well, let's both do this thing.

880
00:44:58,820 --> 00:45:00,879
And I'm demoing it for a reason.

881
00:45:00,879 --> 00:45:04,120
I have like a thought process for the purpose of me saying what I'm saying.

882
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,320
But when you hear it like make this make sense for you, man,

883
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,280
because like that's the whole point.

884
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,580
Like I'm not just I don't need carbon copies of myself.

885
00:45:12,919 --> 00:45:14,679
I don't want carbon copies of myself.

886
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:16,780
I'm barely handling myself on my own.

887
00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:18,959
So like I don't need like 15 more of me.

888
00:45:18,959 --> 00:45:21,360
Like, here's what I'm doing.

889
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,659
Take from this what you will.

890
00:45:22,659 --> 00:45:25,060
But like we get the whole point of me doing that is like, let's

891
00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:26,379
let's find the value for you.

892
00:45:26,379 --> 00:45:31,219
So. So, yes, like individuality, like people when they practice long enough,

893
00:45:31,219 --> 00:45:32,820
like that's we want them to get to that part.

894
00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:33,820
We're like, shit, all right, cool.

895
00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:35,719
Like I've got my own little style here.

896
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,719
That's what makes it awesome.

897
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,679
That person gets that style.

898
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:38,979
Then you listen to what they have to say.

899
00:45:40,459 --> 00:45:42,560
Yeah, you get to be the student again.

900
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,040
Yeah, I mean, that's in, you know, it's kind of like.

901
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,139
You get the idea of like what?

902
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,239
Different people need different body types, different whatever.

903
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,300
And I mean, I ran into this with teaching.

904
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,459
I have a lot of I mean, half the class is people that are over 200 pounds.

905
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,500
They have a vastly different.

906
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,860
You're not 200 pounds.

907
00:46:07,860 --> 00:46:09,239
I'm not. I know.

908
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,399
Like, I might look big, huge, bro.

909
00:46:11,939 --> 00:46:14,939
But like, you know, you.

910
00:46:14,939 --> 00:46:19,100
You have to do things differently and like things I might get away with.

911
00:46:19,899 --> 00:46:22,939
With people that are my size.

912
00:46:22,939 --> 00:46:26,540
They can't get away with on people that are their size, because like

913
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,899
it's vastly different when someone weighs 155 pounds

914
00:46:30,899 --> 00:46:35,739
versus when someone weighs 200 plus like you, you can't get away with certain

915
00:46:35,739 --> 00:46:38,199
like you can't carry weight the same way.

916
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:41,199
And so like, yeah, I might be able to force stuff.

917
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,340
Force it on people that are my size, but like if they go try to do it,

918
00:46:46,340 --> 00:46:47,699
it's not going to work the same way.

919
00:46:47,699 --> 00:46:50,739
And so I've actually found out different ways to do techniques

920
00:46:50,739 --> 00:46:55,100
because I've had to adjust it for them because, oh, like, look at this.

921
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:55,699
It doesn't work.

922
00:46:55,699 --> 00:46:57,699
And they're like, well, show me, show me on me.

923
00:46:57,699 --> 00:47:00,399
I'm like, well, one, it's a little bit different.

924
00:47:00,399 --> 00:47:01,840
But at the same time, it's like, OK, cool.

925
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,840
Like, let me figure out how to move this post or whatever

926
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,139
so that I can still do this sweep on you.

927
00:47:07,479 --> 00:47:10,899
And then we'll that should if I can do it, it should work for you

928
00:47:10,899 --> 00:47:13,580
now on someone your size, if someone my size can do it.

929
00:47:13,580 --> 00:47:18,500
So I mean, like those different perspectives are super important to like.

930
00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:22,080
So, yeah, I mean, we're we're

931
00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:27,580
starting to not ramble, but like, OK, so we're expanding this.

932
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,479
We're expanding this. We did it.

933
00:47:29,479 --> 00:47:31,280
Yeah. So we did do it.

934
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,639
We did it. We did the thing.

935
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:36,379
But thank you. Yeah, we did it.

936
00:47:36,379 --> 00:47:38,239
Thank you. Thank you for listening.

937
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,120
And just like that, we're done.

938
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,820
And hard stop hard.

939
00:47:42,820 --> 00:47:45,620
But no. So, you know, thank you, guys.

940
00:47:45,620 --> 00:47:47,179
We're getting back in the groove here.

941
00:47:47,179 --> 00:47:49,580
We're having coffee.

942
00:47:49,580 --> 00:47:52,739
Well, we would have had to create three episodes worth of content

943
00:47:52,739 --> 00:47:53,679
if we just keep going.

944
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:55,780
So we need to milk this.

945
00:47:57,479 --> 00:48:01,139
So but thank you guys again for listening.

946
00:48:01,139 --> 00:48:04,919
We're we're going to keep those promises to you that we made last week.

947
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:11,679
And as always, like, follow, subscribe, hit that like button.

948
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:14,179
That's cool. Five star reviews are big.

949
00:48:14,179 --> 00:48:15,679
Comments are big, too.

950
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:19,820
I know I've been I think I've been saying that they like apparently comments

951
00:48:19,820 --> 00:48:22,120
and reviews like anything you interact with.

952
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,340
The episode makes a big difference for bumping up the show in the in the algorithm.

953
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,479
So keep that up.

954
00:48:29,479 --> 00:48:30,939
You guys are doing a good job.

955
00:48:30,939 --> 00:48:32,979
You're giving us the love. I appreciate it.

956
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,520
We appreciate it.

957
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,520
Other little bits of housekeeping, dropping the discord.

958
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:43,719
And we said we're going to work on some cool stuff for you.

959
00:48:43,780 --> 00:48:45,679
It's coming. Don't worry.

960
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:47,219
Stuff moves slow.

961
00:48:47,219 --> 00:48:50,320
So we'll get there. Don't worry.

962
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,479
But. As always, keep listening every Tuesday, 5 p.m.

963
00:48:56,959 --> 00:48:59,560
and thank you, am either way.

964
00:48:59,860 --> 00:49:01,219
Well, you know, you can listen to 5 p.m.

965
00:49:01,219 --> 00:49:03,080
to it'll drop at 5 p.m. for sure.

966
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,219
Just listen on Tuesdays.

967
00:49:05,219 --> 00:49:06,479
If you subscribe, doesn't even matter.

968
00:49:06,479 --> 00:49:07,260
Yeah, pop up on your.

969
00:49:07,260 --> 00:49:08,780
That's that's why you should.

970
00:49:08,780 --> 00:49:10,020
Yeah, why you should subscribe.

971
00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:12,419
It'll just be there downloaded.

972
00:49:12,419 --> 00:49:13,560
Done easy.

973
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,760
Make your life easy.

974
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,060
Subscribe the first time.

975
00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:20,219
But yeah. So thank you, guys.

976
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,120
We love you. Bye. See ya.