(Ep 57) Fighting, Food and a New Sleep Supplement: David Bergida on Training and Business

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Welcome back to Fire's Drinking Coffee. On today's episode, we sit down with David Birgitta.

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We talk about some ideas around health, eating,

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his new business that he's starting, his MMA career, and getting into the world

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of mixed martial arts, kind of what brought him there,

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as well as his fighting and rituals around his fights kind of in line with our

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rules of the road that we got into last week.

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Where exactly in Florida, Dave? Tampa, Florida. Tampa, Tampa. Cool. I like Tampa.

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And tell us about yourself, kind of what got you into MMA, how we know you,

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and that can be the other part, was the connections here.

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We have quite a few, but I know you used to train up here at DMA and we also

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have the common link of good old Asim Faiz of Nova Barbell Club.

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But yeah, tell the listeners about yourself, Dave.

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Yeah, so I guess they can all segue into each other.

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So how I kind of got into fighting, I have a wrestling background,

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a former Division One wrestler at Virginia Tech.

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And yeah, when I graduated college, I was just doing like coaching high school wrestling.

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Actually loved it, loved coaching. And when I moved to Northern Virginia,

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my day job didn't really allow me to make a high school practice It was just

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too early in the day So I started looking around for places that I can grapple at Came across DMA,

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saw that they had one, had a wrestling class And two, was also run by somebody

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who actually knows how to wrestle Shout out Mark I saw he was a D1 wrestler

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at American Blair Background.

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So I popped in there. I think the first person I spoke to at DMA was you, Scott.

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And yeah, it was in the old location on the second floor. And...

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Yeah, I mean, it was, you know, a tiny space, but yeah, did the wrestling class

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and then figured, you know, why not try the jujitsu and started doing the jujitsu classes.

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And, you know, I really liked the Saturday rolls.

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I, you know, it was a lot of fun. So I'd go from work to straight to DMA and,

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you know, get training in. And then I also was thinking, why not try some MMA?

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Fighting sounded interesting to me. I wasn't fully invested in competing as

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a fighter right then and there.

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But in the back of my head, I thought about it.

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And I'm like, this would be kind of cool to give it a shot.

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Obviously you know a lot of wrestlers end up

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transitioning into into mma so yeah

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i started taking some of the mma classes with with

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kamal and you know really liked it they found that i really like hitting people

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too i thought that was that was a lot of fun and then yeah i felt like i kind

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of had a good um a good leg up with my wrestling background i just think it you know naturally,

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I was able to be in good positions and have a good feel for, you know,

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where I should be in jujitsu positions or even for taking people down in MMA.

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So yeah, I got my start there. And then, you know, one thing led to another.

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And actually, it was it was,

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in COVID, during COVID, you know, that whole period where I feel like we were

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all trying to train and we couldn't train.

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And it was kind of right when I started getting into, you know,

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training at DMA is when COVID hit.

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And I kind of sat down and I was really thinking to myself, it's like,

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hey, do I really want to fight? Like, is this something that I really want to invest my time in?

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And, you know, I didn't want to hit almost where the age I'm at now.

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I didn't want to hit like 32 or 33 and

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be like what if what if I

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tried fighting um and yeah like honestly like I'm really happy that I decided

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to do it you know it's it's been a lot of fun um you know I'm obviously trying

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to trying to get to the highest level um I I just love I love the grind I love competing.

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I just never lost that since graduating college.

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And yeah, that's kind of, I know it's a long-winded story there,

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but that's what brings me to today.

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Yeah. And so obviously, David, you and I met years ago.

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I remember those conversations when you first came in the room too. It was awesome.

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You've always been a hardworking dude. So it seems like making the transition

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to like MMA after wrestling and maintaining that, like, what would you call,

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I guess like training lifestyle, like just staying at your best.

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You're really good at that, man. And maybe this is a good opportunity to talk

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a little bit about like some of the projects you're working on too,

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man, because obviously I've known you for a while, but I've also,

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you know, we follow each other on social media and you're always like posting

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cool, like optimization, like you're an optimization guy.

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Is that fair to say? Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent.

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Yeah. Yeah. I,

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I, again, like talking about COVID, I feel like that changed, changed a lot for me.

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You know, I started taking health into my own hands. I think that happened for a lot of people too.

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They kind of had that, uh, kind of realization that, you know,

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the people who you thought were like trying to look out for you actually aren't looking out for you.

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And, you know, you have to take, take health into your own hands.

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And yeah, I mean, I guess a little before that I was

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experimenting with like keto and stuff like that so

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I was starting to dip my toe into you

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know different ways of optimizing my health and

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then yeah I just really became infatuated with

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just trying to be the best possible version of myself and in every regard and

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you know health is a really big aspect of that I mean I actually I probably

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should take a step back and you know explain.

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You know, another reason why

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I was really invested in my health was back in, I think it was like 2015.

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So almost like my second to last year in college, found that I had a cyst in my pituitary gland.

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And what that cyst was doing was, it's called prolactinoma.

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And what that cyst was doing was it was disrupting my hormones.

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So I had extremely low testosterone for the majority of my my wrestling career.

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And, you know, I started getting it leveled out a little bit my my final year

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of wrestling, but never got it to quite where like a normal, healthy male was at.

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So I, you know, I was put on medicine for that. And, you know,

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honestly, I'm still on that medicine.

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But yeah like I I just I started

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trying to figure out ways of you know fixing it

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myself like I don't want to be on medicine the rest of my life um

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and yeah so like my my number one goal was like hey how do I naturally raise

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my own testosterone and that's what dove me into you know the all the different

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diets and the you know the whole health realm and biohacking and all these different

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things to optimize my health.

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And yeah, I just got really...

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I found it really interesting. And...

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Yeah, I just, I do. I love learning about it. I love doing all these different things.

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And yeah, I guess like taking me to where I am today.

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You know, one thing that really helped me just in the health regard of and optimizing

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testosterone is like sleep.

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Like sleep is super important for, you know, just being a healthy individual

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and even performing at a high level.

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And I, I just never really had my sleep locked down for for a really long time.

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I would wake up in the middle of the night and just kind of be wide awake.

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And it was like a really consistent thing. So, you know, through a lot of research,

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I started taking just raw honey, and raw honey before bed.

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And you know, what it does is or what it did for me is it leveled out my.

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My uh my glycogen stores

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overnight so when your glycogen stores drop

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and you it triggers your

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body to wake up um and that's the you know like glycogen stores is like signaling

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low low blood sugar so when i took the honey it kind of kept me stable overnight

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and then you know there's also other things that I'm sure, sure you both have

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heard of, like, you know,

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magnesium, magnesium glycinate is really good before sleep.

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I also take L-phalene, L-phalene, you know, helps calm your mind.

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That's, that's something that's naturally in, uh, in green tea.

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And then, um, yeah, it was just like those, those three things I was taking really consistently.

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And I was like, you know, why, why not combine everything and make it easier

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for myself and not have to take all these different things before bed so gave me the idea to.

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Start producing pretty much a supplement. And I added a tart cherry in there

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because tart cherry has been shown to, you know, really help with sleep and

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recovery, especially for athletes.

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It has a natural, it naturally produces melatonin for you.

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And, you know, I also avoid just taking melatonin as a supplement,

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because the more you take it, the less your body produces it itself.

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And it also when i would take

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it i became heavily reliant on

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it and you know i wouldn't be able to sleep without it and then i also woke

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up in the mornings like super groggy it was really tough

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to get out of bed so i knew that was something that wasn't

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a good fit for me um but yeah

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when i combined all these started taking it really

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worked for me and yeah that that's where

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hibernation honey was born uh and for my company farm to fuel foods so yeah

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it's been i've been developing that since last june and it's looking like you

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know in the next few weeks it should be ready to launch that's awesome man out

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of curiosity like what time do you recommend people take the honey.

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Probably like 30 to 60 minutes before bed okay yeah

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it's about like when um gosh uh

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when that's like the recommendation on magnesium and

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stuff too so um that makes sense um and

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so you you have that all packaged in together and uh is

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this in like a are these in packets how is the

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yeah they're in uh they're

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in individual packets so easy to travel with

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so you can take a few of them if you're traveling uh but yeah it's like a it's

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a tear off uh they're called like uh like tear off pouch and it's it's a liquid

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form so you can take it straight up you know it's not going to taste bad it's

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honey honey and uh with like a little bit of like tartness from the cherry.

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But you can also put it into tea, into a smoothie, into, you know, Greek yogurt.

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You know, if you're, if you're doing a snack before bed, they can drizzle on

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like, honestly, whatever you're about to eat. So super convenient.

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Um, and yeah, easy to, easy to travel with.

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Yeah, that's awesome. Um, and then are you, so you're already,

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I assume you're already, uh, you've already been testing these out on yourself, right?

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I, that's where like, I would never sell something that

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I don't take myself and don't believe in myself.

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So like, I wanted to make sure if I'm putting something out there into the world,

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this is something that I can stand by and say like, hey, I take this every night, this works for me.

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You know, I fully recognize it might not work for everyone too.

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You know, I think that's a, it's a really real, very real thing to be prepared

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for. But, you know, I think testing it out myself and then sharing it around

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at the gym I go to here seems to work for a handful of people.

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I would imagine like the other guys, especially in your gym,

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who have like similar lifestyles, right?

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Like you're probably surrounded by professional athletes and dudes you train

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just like professional athletes, too.

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And by the way, dude, you were looking diced up in your weigh-in pictures.

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Was that 155 in your last one, man? It was 160. 160.

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Woo-hoo! You were looking good though, man. So whatever you're doing is probably

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working, man. Um, and I know you've been, yeah, shout out Asim, dude.

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Heck yeah. We shout him out like, you know, two or three times a month.

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So we never get sick of it.

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But, um, but yeah, dude, I'd be curious to know, man, like, cause I,

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you'd mentioned earlier that you've experienced or experimented with.

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Um, a couple different versions of diets too.

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And like, you've been on this, like, you've been a professional athlete for

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a couple of years and you've trained like a professional athlete for dude i

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bet for what like more than a decade with wrestling and everything.

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For like years right so in you

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i think you'd mentioned you you tried keto like what's what's your

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take on like what the demands that your body goes through

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like what's after like i guess all the years like what's what's

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if you've found something i'm sure it's kind of like an ongoing process

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too as we age we all kind of like figure out as things shift

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like what what adaptations we got to make but what um

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is there like a specific diet or anything that you're like what kind

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of protocols are you following right now that you find work well for you yeah i

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i would say and this is usually like the advice i

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give to somebody when when they ask me like

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what i'm eating or like what my diet looks like i i think the number one thing

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is is eating one cooking your own food like not relying on on others but yeah

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i would say nutrient nutrient nutrient density,

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and avoiding processed foods.

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Like, I think those two things are, like, the top priority for me.

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Like, I'll eat red meat every day. I'm not somebody who, like,

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and I'm not, you know, I don't fall into the idea that, you know,

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red meat causes, you know, high cholesterol and all these different things.

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Like, I don't think that's bad for you. that's just my opinion like don't don't

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come after me yeah it's just an opinion guys it's just.

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Yeah i mean like i definitely not a doctor um but yeah red meat like almost

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daily uh eggs daily um you know meat oh yeah i said me um milk,

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um milk rice honey maple syrup uh you know i do eat vegetables i a lot of potatoes.

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Um you know i still eat salad i avoided greens for a while i was like on that

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whole um you know carnivore kick yeah not fully carnivore but like hey like

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vegetables are bad and you know they have these oxalates and all these different

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things so i avoid them for a while and then i started of reintroducing them.

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And I actually, you know, I feel I like eating salads, like I don't eat them as my main meal.

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But I do like having some greens, it makes me feel good. So I,

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it's definitely helped me get in tune with my body.

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And I think that's what a lot of people don't do enough or really know how to

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is like, listen to their body.

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Like if you eat something, and it makes you run to the bathroom immediately

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after, or you feel super sluggish and groggy after like, it's probably what you're eating.

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It's not like anything else going on in the day. And a lot of people don't know

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how to look for those cues or really be aware of those cues.

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So a lot of it's like being in tune with my body. But yeah, I think the number

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one thing also is, again, just avoiding processed foods, you know,

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processed oils, all those different things.

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That was probably the biggest shift I noticed in my, probably just the way I looked.

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Like I always kind of carried a little bit of fat around like my,

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like my abdomen area, like my lower abs.

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And when I removed processed foods, like it, it went away.

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And I'm sure it also helped, you know, eating nutrient dense foods.

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Like, again, I was avoiding steak, eating steak every day, even though I love

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steak, because I thought it was bad for me, or avoiding eggs every day.

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I thought it would like give me a heart attack.

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But I, you know, I think it's a combination of all those different things that

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really help transform my my health.

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Well, and I think is, um, I think that's, that's a really good point is people,

00:18:03.375 --> 00:18:09.655
uh, we tend to look at what other people are doing, right. And just try to do that.

00:18:10.235 --> 00:18:14.135
And it doesn't work for everyone. Right. So like that, that point you were making

00:18:14.135 --> 00:18:17.115
about, uh, about just listen to your own body, right.

00:18:17.235 --> 00:18:22.295
Like we feel like we should be able to do whatever the other person is doing.

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Why is that not working for us? I think there's like a little bit of some psychology

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mixed in with that um and i

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think there's also we're on like the back end of like

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as a culture recovering from diet culture

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and like widespread eating disorders everyone's

00:18:38.235 --> 00:18:40.935
also kind of afraid of developing you know of like

00:18:40.935 --> 00:18:44.075
the stigma of developing an eating disorder whatever and like diets

00:18:44.075 --> 00:18:48.055
are bad and all this weird shit right um and

00:18:48.055 --> 00:18:51.695
so like i think a lot of people have gotten and i guess we're in like a resurgence

00:18:51.695 --> 00:18:56.355
of diet culture everyone feels like they also need to be on you know no carbs

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no this is bad this is bad and like everything everyone's telling you that a

00:19:00.015 --> 00:19:07.175
food is bad at this point every single food is bad according to i don't know influencers in the.

00:19:09.664 --> 00:19:14.004
But yeah, I mean, I think that point on listening to your body is crucial because,

00:19:14.004 --> 00:19:18.424
you know, not everyone is able to eat the same things.

00:19:18.564 --> 00:19:22.624
People have allergies and whatever else, like find what works.

00:19:22.784 --> 00:19:23.744
I think that's a really good point.

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Yes. Social media has done.

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I think it's done a lot of good for at least for me personally, for my health.

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But yeah there's just One there's so much information out there That is.

00:19:40.764 --> 00:19:43.684
You know Goes against what the next person Says

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but then you have also These health influencers

00:19:47.304 --> 00:19:51.304
Who are selling these programs who are Also drugged up

00:19:51.304 --> 00:19:56.204
to The gills and all these different Things and yeah they look Amazing these

00:19:56.204 --> 00:20:00.664
dudes are Freaking roided up and all These different things and they don't disclose

00:20:00.664 --> 00:20:07.524
that And now they're pushing these lifestyle or these diets and these programs to, you know,

00:20:07.644 --> 00:20:12.724
people who just want to look like them and not realize that it's impossible to look like them.

00:20:13.944 --> 00:20:18.464
It's it's challenging. I feel like it's just, again, it's really cool with the

00:20:18.464 --> 00:20:20.584
amount of information we have access to nowadays.

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But it's also, you know, you have that other end where it's just like it's it's

00:20:25.964 --> 00:20:30.464
too much information and you have too many people saying all these different things.

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It makes it really difficult for not even just the average person,

00:20:34.404 --> 00:20:39.664
but for an athlete to be like, how should I eat? What is actually best for me?

00:20:40.464 --> 00:20:43.164
I think what you said there makes a huge difference too.

00:20:44.524 --> 00:20:47.864
Specifically the part where, like you said, as an athlete, that's why I was

00:20:47.864 --> 00:20:49.144
asking you specifically with...

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Being a professional athlete, but you watch these influencers or even like people

00:20:55.766 --> 00:20:57.506
out there not putting out bad information necessarily.

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But when you think about maybe a regular person to differentiate between a regular

00:21:04.286 --> 00:21:06.946
person or like a high level athlete, someone who's on the, like who's on the

00:21:06.946 --> 00:21:10.286
mat or just like doing two workouts a day, minimum,

00:21:10.586 --> 00:21:13.286
most weeks, five to seven days a week,

00:21:13.926 --> 00:21:17.446
like they're going to need something different than what this influencers

00:21:17.446 --> 00:21:21.146
recommending to the broader public

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that isn't they might not be working working out five

00:21:23.926 --> 00:21:27.526
days a week much less two times a day for five days a week um

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and just like for myself just to give an example like i

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started drinking orange juice again like i love orange

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juice when i was a kid i was a freak for orange juice i used to like demand

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it when i woke up as a baby and i was

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the same way dude i love it but you know it's funny david

00:21:42.866 --> 00:21:45.506
like you mentioned like earlier that something that stood out to me when I

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it's one of the first things I do when I wake up now it's like I usually drink

00:21:49.366 --> 00:21:53.166
a little bit of water first but then like right beside that is a big cup of

00:21:53.166 --> 00:21:56.406
and I try to get like quality orange juice which by the way guys sidebar comment

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and then David you might not have this because you're in Florida where you guys

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have like nice fresh oranges like everywhere you look but orange juice is expensive these days man.

00:22:04.386 --> 00:22:10.246
Florida has a they're gonna be out of oranges sooner than we think yeah Florida

00:22:10.246 --> 00:22:13.706
we don't get oranges there's oranges nowhere what like,

00:22:14.436 --> 00:22:18.856
You can't plant trees in Florida anymore. You can't plant orange trees.

00:22:19.556 --> 00:22:22.476
Maybe we need to talk about this because I'm kind of worried now.

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Do you guys remember growing up, there was a big Florida orange juice was an

00:22:28.736 --> 00:22:31.336
advertising campaign that I grew up on.

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What the heck, man? I had the assumption that I would be able to go to any restaurant

00:22:36.896 --> 00:22:39.596
or cafe and have fresh squeezed orange juice everywhere.

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And they are non-existent. Really?

00:22:42.976 --> 00:22:47.676
Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. So citrus greening disease is what it's called.

00:22:47.816 --> 00:22:52.476
Get the fuck out of here. A bacterial infection spread by the Asian citrus psyllid.

00:22:52.736 --> 00:22:54.496
Yeah, so basically there's a giant blight.

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The production of oranges has dropped 90% since 2003.

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Are we blaming Asia? Is that what it is? You said some sort of Asian thing?

00:23:03.896 --> 00:23:07.836
I mean, dude, someone has to pay for this. You can blame something.

00:23:08.016 --> 00:23:10.836
That's crazy. So then I guess it's California oranges or whatever.

00:23:11.036 --> 00:23:15.216
That's wild. I didn't know about that. but uh you can blame globalization i

00:23:15.216 --> 00:23:19.396
guess i guess how all this stuff gets over here whatever man but i digress but

00:23:19.396 --> 00:23:23.956
like when i drink it in the morning man like i feel like it i feel great so

00:23:23.956 --> 00:23:29.076
it's kind of like you said like getting dialed into when you put something in your body um,

00:23:29.936 --> 00:23:32.856
almost immediately like if you you know like you know you guys know it is like

00:23:32.856 --> 00:23:37.056
i mean david i doubt you eat fast food on a monthly basis but i'm sure from

00:23:37.056 --> 00:23:39.216
time to time you you probably have a cheat meal i don't know you could tell

00:23:39.216 --> 00:23:42.636
us i'm not trying to put you on the spot but yeah no no i do asim listen to

00:23:42.636 --> 00:23:47.036
the show by the way dave's on top of it like if like dave if you have a you you,

00:23:47.676 --> 00:23:50.996
yeah i'm not questioning your decision making on this bro but um

00:23:50.996 --> 00:23:53.716
but like when i do if i'm like on top of

00:23:53.716 --> 00:23:57.976
my diet like you said if i'm if i'm pretty if i'm if i'm cooking a lot like

00:23:57.976 --> 00:24:00.996
and i can control what's going into it and you know when i have a cheat meal

00:24:00.996 --> 00:24:04.896
i feel okay after one meal but like if i do it a couple days a week i i will

00:24:04.896 --> 00:24:10.756
notice pretty shortly after i eat that i just don't feel right um but to contrast

00:24:10.756 --> 00:24:13.596
that with the oj it's like i drink the oj like dude oh i feel good man.

00:24:14.823 --> 00:24:21.163
It's interesting because people make the assumption that I, and even my parents

00:24:21.163 --> 00:24:25.623
do too, people just have this assumption that I won't eat anything unhealthy.

00:24:25.823 --> 00:24:28.223
I'm super, super strict with my diet.

00:24:29.063 --> 00:24:34.703
It's just not true. I live by the 90-10 rule.

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You know 90% of what I do is like what I eat and consume is good and then you know I leave that 10%,

00:24:42.903 --> 00:24:45.803
of you know enjoying myself from time to time like

00:24:45.803 --> 00:24:48.643
I'll never do a cheat day like I won't

00:24:48.643 --> 00:24:51.343
have a day where I just completely unload and go off the

00:24:51.343 --> 00:24:54.163
rails but I'll 100% have a

00:24:54.163 --> 00:24:56.803
I guess I wouldn't even call it

00:24:56.803 --> 00:25:00.323
a cheat meal like I'll eat things that are unhealthier but

00:25:00.323 --> 00:25:03.463
if you're at least in my opinion if you're

00:25:03.463 --> 00:25:06.363
doing right 90 or even 80

00:25:06.363 --> 00:25:09.283
20 like if you're doing right 80 of the time

00:25:09.283 --> 00:25:13.003
that meal is not gonna move the

00:25:13.003 --> 00:25:16.003
needle at all for you like that that unhealthy

00:25:16.003 --> 00:25:22.003
meal is not gonna do anything drastic to your your progress for the week or

00:25:22.003 --> 00:25:26.003
the month but if yeah like you said like if you do it on a daily basis like

00:25:26.003 --> 00:25:31.163
that's that's where you do throw things off but i eat i eat ice cream all the

00:25:31.163 --> 00:25:33.543
time i mean i kind of you make your own ice cream don't you,

00:25:34.023 --> 00:25:39.243
i will yeah i do but i still buy ice cream from the store like i eat ice cream

00:25:39.243 --> 00:25:42.423
all the time like what's your what's your favorite kind man.

00:25:43.126 --> 00:25:46.986
Uh that i buy yeah what's your favorite brand um

00:25:46.986 --> 00:25:49.946
because there's some good brands that actually have decent quality ingredients too

00:25:49.946 --> 00:25:53.266
i've noticed i also like ice cream so like yeah there's there's

00:25:53.266 --> 00:25:56.706
two that i i predominantly get one is uh ice

00:25:56.706 --> 00:25:59.546
cream for bears uh i don't know if you guys no i've

00:25:59.546 --> 00:26:02.646
never heard of that you guys maybe maybe mom's carries it

00:26:02.646 --> 00:26:05.886
uh near you guys but it's like

00:26:05.886 --> 00:26:09.106
five or six ingredients and it's

00:26:09.106 --> 00:26:12.206
it's raw honey like milk

00:26:12.206 --> 00:26:16.726
uh cream and then whatever whatever

00:26:16.726 --> 00:26:22.286
flavor the the ice cream is but super simple ingredients and it's sweetened

00:26:22.286 --> 00:26:26.706
by honey it tastes good uh i guess we're keeping on the the honey train yeah

00:26:26.706 --> 00:26:31.006
there's there's another brand that's that's pretty clean but yeah there's a

00:26:31.006 --> 00:26:35.206
few brands that are clean ice cream and it's like you look at the back of the ingredients.

00:26:35.386 --> 00:26:37.846
And I think that's another important part of like, if you are,

00:26:38.046 --> 00:26:42.266
because I say like remove processed foods, like I, in a sense,

00:26:42.406 --> 00:26:46.726
I do still eat processed foods, but I read the labels, you know,

00:26:46.886 --> 00:26:52.726
if, if I look at a packaged food and on the back, the, the label is pretty simple.

00:26:52.946 --> 00:26:56.226
Like I can one understand, I know what these ingredients are.

00:26:56.366 --> 00:27:00.686
You know, you start seeing all these different chemical compounds, probably not good.

00:27:01.846 --> 00:27:05.546
But yeah, there's a lot of really good brands especially in the last like two

00:27:05.546 --> 00:27:10.686
two years or so that they're really making a resurgence you know you can go

00:27:10.686 --> 00:27:12.986
to Costco and actually get really high quality.

00:27:14.646 --> 00:27:20.346
Products now and like packaged products because people are really taking you

00:27:20.346 --> 00:27:22.606
know wanting to eat good quality food and,

00:27:23.321 --> 00:27:26.481
It all comes back to the convenience factor.

00:27:29.561 --> 00:27:33.801
I recognize that it's a big part for a lot of people. I'm busy.

00:27:33.981 --> 00:27:39.381
People are busy. People aren't able to always just make every single meal for

00:27:39.381 --> 00:27:43.041
themselves or source all these different high-quality ingredients.

00:27:43.661 --> 00:27:47.921
You want to be able to just have a quick, easy snack here and there.

00:27:48.241 --> 00:27:51.781
So yeah, just reading the nutrition label is a really big thing.

00:27:51.781 --> 00:27:54.661
But yeah ice cream love eating ice cream

00:27:54.661 --> 00:27:57.841
uh i'll i'll eat donuts like i i

00:27:57.841 --> 00:28:00.661
there's a donut spot that that we go

00:28:00.661 --> 00:28:03.521
to uh here in tampa there was

00:28:03.521 --> 00:28:06.781
one in uh that i still think about in in

00:28:06.781 --> 00:28:10.481
arlington was it duck no it

00:28:10.481 --> 00:28:13.801
wasn't duck um um it's slipping

00:28:13.801 --> 00:28:16.521
my mind it's gonna bother me that i can't think of

00:28:16.521 --> 00:28:19.281
it which neighborhood it was in

00:28:19.281 --> 00:28:22.561
boston is it good good food company yeah good

00:28:22.561 --> 00:28:25.501
food oh my god they're nice man those donuts those donuts

00:28:25.501 --> 00:28:28.241
were but like i guess like when i say like when

00:28:28.241 --> 00:28:31.281
i say when i'll cheat i'll make sure like i'm

00:28:31.281 --> 00:28:34.621
if i'm gonna cheat or eat an unhealthy meal it's

00:28:34.621 --> 00:28:39.101
gonna be a good quality unhealthy meal like i'm not gonna go to dunkin donuts

00:28:39.101 --> 00:28:43.941
to get my donut i'm gonna get a good quality donut if i'm gonna get pizza i'm

00:28:43.941 --> 00:28:47.861
gonna go to a really good pizza spot i'm not gonna get dominoes or any like

00:28:47.861 --> 00:28:52.841
any garbage like that like I do try to, if it is going to be unhealthier,

00:28:53.161 --> 00:28:59.121
I try to get the best quality possible of unhealthy, if that makes sense. It does.

00:28:59.861 --> 00:29:04.021
But again, I guess rounding it out, 80-20, 90-10.

00:29:06.241 --> 00:29:13.221
I wholeheartedly believe if you follow that, these meals aren't going to pull

00:29:13.221 --> 00:29:18.681
you back away from your goals, even as an athlete. Like, I think too many athletes just...

00:29:19.631 --> 00:29:23.291
Especially fighters who people are even even in

00:29:23.291 --> 00:29:25.931
jujitsu people cut weight you just get in the

00:29:25.931 --> 00:29:28.731
realm of like after you're done cutting weight and

00:29:28.731 --> 00:29:31.931
you you know you're in between fights or matches

00:29:31.931 --> 00:29:35.831
you just go off the rails because you

00:29:35.831 --> 00:29:38.771
know you just deprived yourself for a little bit and then people just

00:29:38.771 --> 00:29:41.711
eat like garbage 24 7 until they

00:29:41.711 --> 00:29:44.971
have to cut weight again like that's definitely

00:29:44.971 --> 00:29:47.751
not the way um and you're honestly just making

00:29:47.751 --> 00:29:51.691
it harder for yourself to cut weight over time but

00:29:51.691 --> 00:29:54.971
yeah like again you can still enjoy yourself and.

00:29:54.971 --> 00:29:57.951
I i think people like kind

00:29:57.951 --> 00:30:00.851
of have this idea that i'm a little neurotic about what i eat

00:30:00.851 --> 00:30:03.931
and in a sense like i i do i am always thoughtful

00:30:03.931 --> 00:30:06.991
about it but i i'm i'm

00:30:06.991 --> 00:30:09.871
more open-minded than people think it's this

00:30:09.871 --> 00:30:13.231
is a it's a martial arts fighting

00:30:13.231 --> 00:30:16.031
jiu-jitsu whatever dude it's like if you compete it's it's

00:30:16.031 --> 00:30:19.411
mentally and like emotionally taxing right so like you it

00:30:19.411 --> 00:30:22.131
does kind of help and if like you said a second

00:30:22.131 --> 00:30:24.931
ago some guys they go like all in they get really dialed in but there's

00:30:24.931 --> 00:30:27.751
like a mental fatigue you get from that after a while and like

00:30:27.751 --> 00:30:30.431
you have to think about the long game and like do you want to do

00:30:30.431 --> 00:30:34.051
this for years hopefully the rest of your life and have

00:30:34.051 --> 00:30:37.691
some type of healthy athletic uh journey

00:30:37.691 --> 00:30:41.271
that you'll do until you know until you're an old guy um and

00:30:41.271 --> 00:30:45.111
so i think part of that like you said is like kind of having that like 90 10

00:30:45.111 --> 00:30:47.731
80 20 whatever having that break where you're like you know what man i'm just

00:30:47.731 --> 00:30:51.071
maybe i'll go get pupatella pizza i don't know if you ever got that dave i'm

00:30:51.071 --> 00:30:54.891
sure you did up in arlington so good i think i have yeah dude they well they.

00:30:54.891 --> 00:30:58.291
Advertise on the website they only have like four ingredients in their in their

00:30:58.291 --> 00:31:00.451
dough it's like the yeast and.

00:31:01.068 --> 00:31:03.868
Filtered water sea salt and like olive oil

00:31:03.868 --> 00:31:07.488
and or whatever yeah wheat or whatever the hell they import

00:31:07.488 --> 00:31:10.348
all the ingredients from me seriously right so well like you said

00:31:10.348 --> 00:31:13.988
man it's like you know okay dude like you're gonna be we're gonna be on this

00:31:13.988 --> 00:31:18.808
this grind for for years whatever it may be like have some pizza man like because

00:31:18.808 --> 00:31:21.588
you know the the mike's got a tour me and mike have a tournament come up in

00:31:21.588 --> 00:31:25.068
two weeks and i was kind of like complaining to him i'm making a joke about

00:31:25.068 --> 00:31:28.988
how i'm kind of husky right now and and i've got to start to and i i've been

00:31:28.988 --> 00:31:29.828
pretty good about my diet.

00:31:29.988 --> 00:31:33.368
And I think it seemed to have me pack on some weight, which is good because

00:31:33.368 --> 00:31:36.028
I would like to be heavier in my weight class.

00:31:36.748 --> 00:31:41.368
However, I got to like pay attention for the next 10 to 14 days for sure.

00:31:41.508 --> 00:31:46.348
Just, I can eat, I can eat every day. I can eat real good. If I'm eating smart, should be just fine.

00:31:46.628 --> 00:31:48.968
Um, but we're going to have those times where it's like, all right,

00:31:49.028 --> 00:31:50.988
like now I got to get fairly locked in here.

00:31:51.488 --> 00:31:54.788
Um, so if there's a moment, as you said, where it's like, all right,

00:31:54.928 --> 00:31:56.388
dude, like let's savor this.

00:31:56.528 --> 00:31:58.848
Let's make the most of it. Like you said, like you're going to go in on some

00:31:58.848 --> 00:32:00.708
donuts, man, go in, enjoy it.

00:32:00.848 --> 00:32:05.428
Like, just do it, get it done. And then, you know, the, the 10 days of me watching

00:32:05.428 --> 00:32:10.748
the meals, it, it, it becomes a more, like, I think a long-term balance for a human being.

00:32:10.768 --> 00:32:13.068
Cause we are human beings still, even if like we train nonstop.

00:32:13.528 --> 00:32:19.428
Well, and, um, there's, I mean, I know on my end of things, like the,

00:32:19.428 --> 00:32:24.148
it's one part of the whole equation that you can control, right? Like the food.

00:32:24.848 --> 00:32:27.708
Um, and so like, it's, it's hard to like.

00:32:28.498 --> 00:32:31.398
When that's not possible to like relinquish it

00:32:31.398 --> 00:32:34.458
but like you there is a flexibility you have to be willing to have

00:32:34.458 --> 00:32:37.438
so that uh you know so you don't go

00:32:37.438 --> 00:32:41.858
crazy you don't have to you don't have to eat whatever just because people are

00:32:41.858 --> 00:32:46.138
telling you to or they think you're weird but uh because they usually do think

00:32:46.138 --> 00:32:49.438
you're weird but that doesn't matter but like you know you have to understand

00:32:49.438 --> 00:32:54.158
when like all right like i do need to eat something and i'm not gonna be able

00:32:54.158 --> 00:32:55.718
to eat the thing that I want,

00:32:55.958 --> 00:32:57.798
or I think I need to eat today.

00:32:58.038 --> 00:33:00.898
So like, I need to just, I need to make do.

00:33:01.198 --> 00:33:04.358
And like, like you're saying, then, all right, well, let's find the best possible

00:33:04.358 --> 00:33:07.958
option rather than the, the perfect option, right?

00:33:08.018 --> 00:33:10.938
Like, so you have to be willing to like, get out of your own way a little bit

00:33:10.938 --> 00:33:13.798
and accept like, all right, well, I can still have something.

00:33:14.338 --> 00:33:19.518
I just need to be smart enough to not go off the rails like you talked about.

00:33:19.738 --> 00:33:22.478
So, so, Hey, Dave, quick question. this is kind of just as mike

00:33:22.478 --> 00:33:25.658
was talking about me thinking this um because like in mike and

00:33:25.658 --> 00:33:28.518
i's last episode of the show we kind of did this um like

00:33:28.518 --> 00:33:31.438
rules of the road kind of rant about like traveling and competing

00:33:31.438 --> 00:33:34.278
and stuff like that and like you just i think if i if i understand correctly

00:33:34.278 --> 00:33:37.358
your last flight was in was it in toronto uh it

00:33:37.358 --> 00:33:40.218
was montreal montreal okay but like you had to travel right and like you're

00:33:40.218 --> 00:33:43.238
you're a pro athlete so you're gonna be traveling quite a bit um how

00:33:43.238 --> 00:33:45.898
do you like do you have like a protocol when you're on the road for like keeping an eye

00:33:45.898 --> 00:33:49.218
on some of the things especially like you're getting close to an event like you

00:33:49.218 --> 00:33:51.998
probably want to be even more dialed in like what's your uh i'd be

00:33:51.998 --> 00:33:54.858
curious because like i said me and mike just kind of ranted on this yeah like

00:33:54.858 --> 00:33:57.938
how do you handle some of that like the demands of being like all right like because

00:33:57.938 --> 00:34:00.798
when you're at home you can like overseeing everything we're

00:34:00.798 --> 00:34:04.158
talking about it's simpler right like it's still work but like you get dialed

00:34:04.158 --> 00:34:06.718
into your community you're like i know that place over there if i do feel like

00:34:06.718 --> 00:34:11.758
getting pizza every other week or whatever those guys are good um i buy my vegetables

00:34:11.758 --> 00:34:15.678
over here my meat over there like you know we all kind of have this like system

00:34:15.678 --> 00:34:19.358
around where we live but we at the road it gets kind of tricky Like,

00:34:19.398 --> 00:34:20.358
how do you usually do that?

00:34:21.063 --> 00:34:25.003
Yeah, it's funny you say that because my coach made a comment to me about,

00:34:25.003 --> 00:34:29.383
you know, how I'm usually like, I'm always locked in and prepared for whenever we go somewhere.

00:34:29.603 --> 00:34:32.843
And yeah, I mean, maybe it's a little bit because, you know,

00:34:32.943 --> 00:34:36.663
as, as we're getting closer to the fight, like, I'm really hungry. So I can't.

00:34:37.438 --> 00:34:45.358
I, I, I like the idea of like figuring out where I'm going to eat after and I'll search the area.

00:34:45.678 --> 00:34:51.498
So like, yeah, even like a week, week or two in advance, I'll pull up Google

00:34:51.498 --> 00:34:56.538
maps and I'll start scoping out where I'm going to go, where I'm going to go eat after weigh-ins,

00:34:56.738 --> 00:35:00.098
where, where I'm going to go grocery shopping, uh, you know,

00:35:00.218 --> 00:35:03.798
where, what's like the high quality grocery store in the area.

00:35:03.798 --> 00:35:08.978
Like I'll do that I'll 100% do that ahead of time one because you know it takes

00:35:08.978 --> 00:35:14.598
my mind off of food and you know being deprived it's a little weird I actually

00:35:14.598 --> 00:35:15.778
even in wrestling season.

00:35:16.458 --> 00:35:19.158
I I like I liked watching like the food

00:35:19.158 --> 00:35:22.658
network people think that's a little crazy like

00:35:22.658 --> 00:35:27.158
it helped I don't know what it what the psychological explanation

00:35:27.158 --> 00:35:29.898
is but it helped me you know I just made me

00:35:29.898 --> 00:35:32.898
like excited to eat food instead of like miserable

00:35:32.898 --> 00:35:36.358
and you know depressed about not eating the food but

00:35:36.358 --> 00:35:39.598
yeah like I I won my

00:35:39.598 --> 00:35:42.558
my number one go-to after weigh-ins is is eating

00:35:42.558 --> 00:35:45.698
pho I love I love pho and

00:35:45.698 --> 00:35:49.118
I eat it because one like

00:35:49.118 --> 00:35:51.978
I do a water cut so I you know

00:35:51.978 --> 00:35:55.378
I'm one flushing my entire system of

00:35:55.378 --> 00:35:58.558
water on the week of i'm extremely low

00:35:58.558 --> 00:36:02.138
carb uh i'm at a

00:36:02.138 --> 00:36:05.178
certain point i limit my sodium intake

00:36:05.178 --> 00:36:08.398
so when i do after i

00:36:08.398 --> 00:36:11.298
do weigh in i one need to hydrate a

00:36:11.298 --> 00:36:14.238
ton need to put that water back in i need to

00:36:14.238 --> 00:36:17.018
get as much carbs in me as

00:36:17.018 --> 00:36:19.978
possible because when i'm competing the next day

00:36:19.978 --> 00:36:23.438
and you definitely I need the carbs to perform

00:36:23.438 --> 00:36:29.358
and then sodium like I need to get a lot of sodium in and what has all of that

00:36:29.358 --> 00:36:35.738
it's pho it's like a big brothy soup that is a massive sodium bomb and has a

00:36:35.738 --> 00:36:40.818
ton of noodles and it has good good quality protein you know you get the.

00:36:41.561 --> 00:36:49.641
You get the tripe and the cartilage, and then you get the ribeye or whatever

00:36:49.641 --> 00:36:51.121
kind of meat they're putting in there.

00:36:51.581 --> 00:36:56.081
So I always go for a big bowl of pho. That's like my go-to after weigh-ins.

00:36:57.281 --> 00:37:03.001
And then, yeah, I'm usually looking at finding a good quality grocery store.

00:37:03.161 --> 00:37:04.801
It's where I can get coconut waters.

00:37:06.181 --> 00:37:09.101
Actually, it was really cool, and I've been wanting to try them,

00:37:09.181 --> 00:37:11.361
but they're like nowhere, anywhere.

00:37:11.561 --> 00:37:14.421
At least in my area of they have

00:37:14.421 --> 00:37:20.561
uh they had maple water in in Canada and that's like their version of I don't

00:37:20.561 --> 00:37:26.441
want to say their version of coconut water but maple syrup has a ton of uh nutrients

00:37:26.441 --> 00:37:34.061
and minerals in maple syrup so they have like water sweetened with maple syrup,

00:37:35.181 --> 00:37:39.321
and it was really good and I was able to get a handful of those when I was in

00:37:39.321 --> 00:37:43.081
Montreal And that helped hydrate me and a drink that the day of the fight.

00:37:43.875 --> 00:37:48.595
But yeah, I, I prepare my, I pretty much prepare my, my grocery list.

00:37:48.715 --> 00:37:50.435
I prepare where I'm going to eat.

00:37:50.595 --> 00:37:53.735
I prepare where I'm going to eat the following day.

00:37:53.935 --> 00:37:56.715
If there's time before the flight, like I'm going to, I'm going to figure out

00:37:56.715 --> 00:37:58.815
what the quality food in the area is.

00:37:58.995 --> 00:38:02.435
And I was, I was actually really surprised. I didn't know Montreal is like known

00:38:02.435 --> 00:38:05.535
for food, really good, high quality food.

00:38:05.675 --> 00:38:11.135
There was, I got, I got a good bagel in there and I'm really strict about my bagels because,

00:38:11.135 --> 00:38:14.175
you know coming from jersey like i feel

00:38:14.175 --> 00:38:17.095
like you know new jersey new york is like there's nothing

00:38:17.095 --> 00:38:19.935
better out bagel capitals man bagels and pizza

00:38:19.935 --> 00:38:23.295
right yeah bagels and pizza i'm definitely very

00:38:23.295 --> 00:38:26.875
stingy about about those um i

00:38:26.875 --> 00:38:29.935
actually got good quality both of those in montreal there

00:38:29.935 --> 00:38:32.715
was a good pizza spot too that we grabbed a slice from

00:38:32.715 --> 00:38:35.695
so yeah like i guess uh as a

00:38:35.695 --> 00:38:38.975
long-winded way of answering your question but yeah i'm i i

00:38:38.975 --> 00:38:42.015
do my research before going wherever i go and

00:38:42.015 --> 00:38:44.775
i'm i'm always prepared do you have a

00:38:44.775 --> 00:38:48.535
specific post fight ritual like

00:38:48.535 --> 00:38:53.015
is there specific food that you seek out in each city or do you do that sit

00:38:53.015 --> 00:38:56.555
like place by place do you have like just look up whatever the best option is

00:38:56.555 --> 00:39:01.095
there's something you're specifically looking for yeah it's definitely a place

00:39:01.095 --> 00:39:06.195
by place basis i'll i'll see what they're kind of known for again depends on

00:39:06.195 --> 00:39:08.235
where i'm going. If I'm going somewhere that's just.

00:39:08.946 --> 00:39:12.966
Not a fun place to be at. You know, sometimes you travel and you're just like

00:39:12.966 --> 00:39:17.486
not in a city that you would actually want to ever go to and not the best options.

00:39:17.486 --> 00:39:19.306
I'll just hold off until I get home.

00:39:19.886 --> 00:39:23.666
But yeah, I think it's just a place by place basis.

00:39:23.806 --> 00:39:28.346
Like Montreal was cool. Cause I, I got to look up some places that I, I wanted to try.

00:39:28.906 --> 00:39:32.966
Um, trying to think of where else did you Did you sneak in any poutine up in

00:39:32.966 --> 00:39:34.966
Montreal? I know they're known for that.

00:39:36.086 --> 00:39:41.446
I didn't. I actually didn't, but my coach had some poutine. Yeah,

00:39:41.586 --> 00:39:43.026
there you go. Someone had some poutine.

00:39:43.246 --> 00:39:46.626
Was that before or after you weighed in? Did he smash that in front of you?

00:39:47.006 --> 00:39:49.466
It was after I weighed in. Oh, good.

00:39:50.846 --> 00:39:54.446
What's your take on week of, Dave? Well, I guess maybe in general,

00:39:54.566 --> 00:39:55.706
too. Are you a creatine guy?

00:39:56.746 --> 00:40:01.086
Yeah, I am a creatine guy. Mid-cut, do you remove it?

00:40:01.406 --> 00:40:04.466
Or do you kind of keep it in the, in the fact, like in the game until like,

00:40:04.606 --> 00:40:07.186
uh, till you get, you know, till the day of or whatever?

00:40:07.886 --> 00:40:11.626
I remove it like, uh, about a week out. Okay.

00:40:11.886 --> 00:40:18.286
So I think, I think Tyler, Tyler from Nova, he, he told me to remove it.

00:40:18.406 --> 00:40:21.386
I think we were like nine or eight days out from, from weigh-ins and that's

00:40:21.386 --> 00:40:22.906
when I cut it this time around.

00:40:24.326 --> 00:40:28.226
But yeah, I always remove, I mean, especially doing a water cut,

00:40:28.366 --> 00:40:32.286
you know, like creating will hold onto the water for you. And it is interesting

00:40:32.286 --> 00:40:37.746
because like two, almost always like, it's like two or three pounds that I drop

00:40:37.746 --> 00:40:39.006
whenever I remove. Damn.

00:40:39.166 --> 00:40:41.706
No kidding. Yeah. Huh.

00:40:42.666 --> 00:40:46.286
Intracellular water, man. Cause it keeps the, it draws it all in.

00:40:46.926 --> 00:40:48.346
That's why it makes you look jacked.

00:40:50.346 --> 00:40:51.526
Um, yeah.

00:40:52.337 --> 00:40:59.957
Any other little rituals or specific bits you have for the road?

00:41:00.097 --> 00:41:06.637
Is there certain things that you feel like you need to travel with or do when

00:41:06.637 --> 00:41:09.877
you're on travel for fights?

00:41:11.657 --> 00:41:18.197
Yeah, I mean, I guess something maybe interesting that I do and kind of going

00:41:18.197 --> 00:41:20.377
around the biohacking realm,

00:41:21.537 --> 00:41:27.697
um definitely focus on like my light environment one well considering it's not

00:41:27.697 --> 00:41:32.417
a place that's freezing cold like when i was in canada but i do try to get outside

00:41:32.417 --> 00:41:38.257
as much and soak in as much sun as possible uh i have a red light device that

00:41:38.257 --> 00:41:41.057
i bring with me that i travel with and um,

00:41:41.634 --> 00:41:46.414
I'll use that after the flight. I'll use it on my face or if I have any lingering

00:41:46.414 --> 00:41:51.794
kind of injuries going into the fight that I'll make sure I hit the red light on those.

00:41:52.674 --> 00:41:58.734
I wear, I'm that weird guy in the airport that's wearing those either yellow or red tinted glasses.

00:41:59.494 --> 00:42:06.094
And I'll be wearing those to block out the blue light from my eyes.

00:42:06.094 --> 00:42:15.274
I, I guess even funnier, I'm also the, the guy who I guess, so to say is, uh, fearful of EMFs.

00:42:15.534 --> 00:42:20.154
So I'll wear, I'll wear a hat that is like an EMF blocking hat.

00:42:20.354 --> 00:42:23.054
It's like lined with, with silver on the inside.

00:42:23.494 --> 00:42:29.134
I'll also wear, also have, I have boxers that do the same. So got to protect

00:42:29.134 --> 00:42:31.254
the boys for when I'm traveling.

00:42:31.394 --> 00:42:34.354
And yeah, so I, you know,

00:42:34.474 --> 00:42:37.294
I have, I guess like my ritual in a sense like

00:42:37.294 --> 00:42:40.034
I always protect my my head and

00:42:40.034 --> 00:42:43.374
my balls and and and try

00:42:43.374 --> 00:42:48.254
to keep my keep my eyes like from straining too much from the blue light um

00:42:48.254 --> 00:42:52.354
you know just all these like little things that you know can make a difference

00:42:52.354 --> 00:42:57.674
especially when I'm cutting weight and I'm deprived and you know I'm you know

00:42:57.674 --> 00:43:00.694
really don't have a ton of nutrients in me I I don't want to be.

00:43:01.754 --> 00:43:04.814
Doing any more harm to my body than i already am

00:43:04.814 --> 00:43:07.734
yeah your your process is dialed in

00:43:07.734 --> 00:43:10.894
buddy you got it down i like it hey

00:43:10.894 --> 00:43:13.434
man why don't we talk a little bit about like uh like your team your training

00:43:13.434 --> 00:43:20.274
right now man so i i um is it kaizen in uh tampa yeah it's kaizen so i ironically

00:43:20.274 --> 00:43:23.874
you know yeah it's kind of funny because i was you know you know i would cross

00:43:23.874 --> 00:43:29.994
train at the the kaizen in Northern Virginia and just happened to end at Kaizen in Tampa.

00:43:31.234 --> 00:43:36.034
Cool. So like, who's your head coach? Is it Jamie Varner? Is he one of them?

00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.920
He's one of them. Yeah, my head coach is Vince McGinnis. So he was he's the

00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:46.800
owner of it's Kaizen Pro now when we train at we train out of Inside Control

00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:51.160
Academy, which is part of the Gracie network down here in Florida.

00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:56.000
But yeah, Vince McGinnis, he's my head coach. And then, yeah,

00:43:56.180 --> 00:44:00.220
I, ironically, I guess that's kind of a funny story of, you know,

00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:01.820
how I how I met Jamie Varner.

00:44:01.820 --> 00:44:06.820
Um you know I was competing I think it was only like my second month down here

00:44:06.820 --> 00:44:14.080
in in Tampa and I was competing in a in a jiu-jitsu uh competition and Jamie

00:44:14.080 --> 00:44:15.760
Varner was in my bracket and.

00:44:16.500 --> 00:44:20.460
Me not being probably as up-to-date

00:44:20.460 --> 00:44:23.340
or like long-term UFC fan as

00:44:23.340 --> 00:44:26.920
I should have like I had no idea who he was um

00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.400
and yeah I actually

00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.860
just lost a match and he he

00:44:33.860 --> 00:44:39.740
came up to me and introduced himself and I mean we started talking and he's

00:44:39.740 --> 00:44:42.740
like asking if I fight I'm like oh yeah yeah I fight I'm kind of looking for

00:44:42.740 --> 00:44:47.120
my first pro fight right now and he's like oh yeah I used to fight too and you

00:44:47.120 --> 00:44:50.940
know he told me his name and I'm like oh what weight did you fight at he's like oh I was

00:44:51.080 --> 00:44:54.140
uh i was a 55 pounder you know i actually fought

00:44:54.140 --> 00:44:57.180
in the ufc i'm like oh no way like do you know do

00:44:57.180 --> 00:45:00.200
you know kamal ashloris and he's like yeah i

00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:03.100
fought him and i'm like

00:45:03.100 --> 00:45:05.860
no way come all come all with my coach and you

00:45:05.860 --> 00:45:09.920
know kamal still is my coach as well um but he's

00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.400
like oh yeah and like ironically they they

00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.500
fought to a draw like so like they didn't

00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:19.380
even there's not even uh you know i don't

00:45:19.380 --> 00:45:23.280
want to say like bitterness i mean maybe there is bitterness because i'm sure

00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.980
they both wanted to win but you know like what are the odds that my my coach

00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:34.300
in virginia ended up fighting my my now coach in florida and they fought to

00:45:34.300 --> 00:45:37.040
a draw it just kind of seems like one of those like.

00:45:37.691 --> 00:45:41.151
Just like the universe aligning yeah and you

00:45:41.151 --> 00:45:43.971
know it's it's really cool i mean like they've already both of them have

00:45:43.971 --> 00:45:47.591
been in my corner uh for some of my fights and it's

00:45:47.591 --> 00:45:50.711
just like a really cool like um you know

00:45:50.711 --> 00:45:53.571
coming together moment of like wow like these these two

00:45:53.571 --> 00:45:56.791
guys who were competitors somehow ended up

00:45:56.791 --> 00:45:59.591
like coming back into each other's lives just

00:45:59.591 --> 00:46:02.851
because you know they're they're helping train uh the

00:46:02.851 --> 00:46:06.631
same fighter but yeah so uh jamie

00:46:06.631 --> 00:46:09.651
i also work with jamie um you know

00:46:09.651 --> 00:46:12.691
i cross train at a couple different gyms here in tampa uh

00:46:12.691 --> 00:46:15.691
you know i bounce around a little bit for my jujitsu and

00:46:15.691 --> 00:46:19.891
sometimes for for sparring but

00:46:19.891 --> 00:46:22.791
more or less like yeah like uh my coach vince

00:46:22.791 --> 00:46:26.251
mcginnis has me has you know really transformed

00:46:26.251 --> 00:46:29.171
my my striking you know i think

00:46:29.171 --> 00:46:32.251
especially at DMA you know working like

00:46:32.251 --> 00:46:35.431
grappling was a big focus and you know

00:46:35.431 --> 00:46:38.651
getting getting my my wrestling to blend with

00:46:38.651 --> 00:46:42.511
my with my jiu-jitsu was you

00:46:42.511 --> 00:46:46.771
know really really pivotal in my career and then Vince being

00:46:46.771 --> 00:46:49.931
the you know the the the striking

00:46:49.931 --> 00:46:53.651
guru he is he's really helped develop my

00:46:53.651 --> 00:46:56.751
my striking to blend with my wrestling so

00:46:56.751 --> 00:47:00.051
now you know very heavy boxing to to

00:47:00.051 --> 00:47:03.471
getting to my wrestling and yeah.

00:47:03.471 --> 00:47:10.811
It's been it's working really well um um yeah i'm i'm trying to think of kind

00:47:10.811 --> 00:47:13.831
of what else there is yeah yeah that's where i'm at now that's cool man you.

00:47:13.831 --> 00:47:18.471
Get so you're what's the cross training situation like in tampa uh what do you

00:47:18.471 --> 00:47:23.031
mean like well like okay so is the i mean And I feel like it's 2026 now.

00:47:24.422 --> 00:47:27.262
Most places especially like a big city like tamp i feel like there's

00:47:27.262 --> 00:47:30.002
gonna be a good culture for it but like it used to be back in the day it was kind

00:47:30.002 --> 00:47:32.802
of like you'd have to find some friendly places to go.

00:47:32.802 --> 00:47:36.582
To and some places would let you in but it might be a little bit hostile i'm.

00:47:36.582 --> 00:47:39.922
Curious like what it's like down there it's good it's.

00:47:39.922 --> 00:47:43.142
I one like yeah

00:47:43.142 --> 00:47:45.922
i'm lucky that i have a i have a head coach that

00:47:45.922 --> 00:47:48.802
is totally cool with with cross training i

00:47:48.802 --> 00:47:51.542
know some people some coaches like or like that's a

00:47:51.542 --> 00:47:54.802
big no-no um and they get super super bitter

00:47:54.802 --> 00:47:57.642
about it but Vince is really cool about it

00:47:57.642 --> 00:48:01.242
you know he's all about like hey whatever's best for for for

00:48:01.242 --> 00:48:04.102
us you know I actually even cross train at uh

00:48:04.102 --> 00:48:07.042
I go to a boxing gym as well to

00:48:07.042 --> 00:48:09.902
work on my boxing I mean Vince comes with me to those

00:48:09.902 --> 00:48:13.002
to those sparring sessions but yeah everyone's

00:48:13.002 --> 00:48:15.822
everyone's super cool about it uh especially I guess

00:48:15.822 --> 00:48:18.682
if you're you know being a pro fighter you know they know

00:48:18.682 --> 00:48:22.382
that you know having another like a good body in

00:48:22.382 --> 00:48:25.242
there for their guys is beneficial for them and

00:48:25.242 --> 00:48:28.242
getting getting to roll with somebody

00:48:28.242 --> 00:48:31.502
different or getting to spar with someone different than they already spar

00:48:31.502 --> 00:48:34.322
with on a daily basis like it's good

00:48:34.322 --> 00:48:37.322
for everyone uh and you know it's it's

00:48:37.322 --> 00:48:40.462
what we should be doing because you know

00:48:40.462 --> 00:48:43.202
it was like the same thing with wrestling it's like you you wrestle and

00:48:43.202 --> 00:48:46.322
you fight these same people every single day like

00:48:46.322 --> 00:48:49.222
you you develop an understanding of how

00:48:49.222 --> 00:48:54.442
how that person wrestles or how that person fights or you know how they roll

00:48:54.442 --> 00:49:01.002
in jujitsu and you know you go from being able to you know test things out and

00:49:01.002 --> 00:49:04.482
work to work on things to like this person knows exactly what I'm going to do

00:49:04.482 --> 00:49:08.682
and even if I'm better than this person by like head over heels.

00:49:09.892 --> 00:49:12.792
I'm not going to be able to do my best against them because they already know

00:49:12.792 --> 00:49:15.712
what's coming they just understand how i how i roll

00:49:15.712 --> 00:49:20.112
or how i fight so like being able to cross train and get different bodies in

00:49:20.112 --> 00:49:24.392
it like it really does help everyone so yeah i guess i am really lucky that

00:49:24.392 --> 00:49:29.252
you know the gyms that i cross train at are you know super cool they're they're

00:49:29.252 --> 00:49:34.072
they're they're really open um again i don't want to say it's like for for everyone

00:49:34.072 --> 00:49:35.172
they're open for everyone but,

00:49:35.692 --> 00:49:39.132
at least for me like they've always been really cool to me they've been letting

00:49:39.132 --> 00:49:41.052
me come in Whenever I want.

00:49:42.452 --> 00:49:48.032
And Yeah like super welcoming About letting me train with their guys And I think

00:49:48.032 --> 00:49:50.832
the other good part Especially sparring wise too is,

00:49:51.510 --> 00:49:55.910
And something that I'm usually nervous about is, you know, when you go and spar

00:49:55.910 --> 00:49:59.490
at a new gym, like the guys just want to take your head off.

00:49:59.610 --> 00:50:03.510
Like, I don't know what it is, but maybe it's just like, hey, you're coming to my gym.

00:50:04.070 --> 00:50:06.910
I'm going to try to embarrass you. I'm going to try to hurt you.

00:50:07.610 --> 00:50:10.970
It's not the case here, or at least the places that I've been,

00:50:11.170 --> 00:50:16.390
which is nice because, you know, when I do spar, I'm like not trying to get hurt.

00:50:16.530 --> 00:50:21.110
And I'm not trying to get in a full like 100% fight. I'm trying to get better.

00:50:21.530 --> 00:50:25.410
Um, so it, it's good that I don't have to worry about that here.

00:50:26.070 --> 00:50:29.290
Well, I know my take Florida also has a really good jujitsu scene.

00:50:29.410 --> 00:50:33.210
I've, I've gone to South, South Florida mostly. So a little bit further down

00:50:33.210 --> 00:50:37.170
the way, but Florida in general has always had a good, uh, grappling scene as

00:50:37.170 --> 00:50:38.690
well for at least for like a jujitsu side.

00:50:38.790 --> 00:50:42.410
I don't know as much about wrestling, but, um, my question, David,

00:50:42.470 --> 00:50:43.950
have you, uh, have you worn the gi ever?

00:50:46.750 --> 00:50:50.090
I, I still have, I still have not worn the gi.

00:50:51.210 --> 00:50:53.650
Have you worn it a single time? No, I'm just having fun with you.

00:50:54.130 --> 00:50:58.750
No, no, I know. I have never put on a gi. Oh, man.

00:50:59.510 --> 00:51:03.450
Keep going until you absolutely have to. Well, it is nice and hot down there.

00:51:03.650 --> 00:51:05.690
So, you know, it's just not really good gi weather.

00:51:06.390 --> 00:51:11.730
Yeah, it's just that'll be my excuse. It's just not gi weather down there.

00:51:11.750 --> 00:51:15.410
Yeah, dude, it's not gi weather. Can't repurpose a gi to go to the beach.

00:51:18.090 --> 00:51:20.970
When you retire from fighting you can have some fun in the gi dude you're

00:51:20.970 --> 00:51:23.970
like you know what let's just see what this is all about i will

00:51:23.970 --> 00:51:26.910
mess around with it i mean

00:51:26.910 --> 00:51:32.310
i i plan on i plan on putting i plan on putting my kids in jiu-jitsu yeah man

00:51:32.310 --> 00:51:37.110
i think i think if they're gonna be putting on the gi then then it's only it's

00:51:37.110 --> 00:51:40.090
only right that dad puts on they'll like that they'll love seeing dad do that

00:51:40.090 --> 00:51:44.430
too that's awesome man but no but no jokes i mean jokes aside florida jiu-jitsu

00:51:44.430 --> 00:51:45.630
is some of the best jiu-jitsu in the world.

00:51:46.903 --> 00:51:50.403
Yeah there's there's definitely really good gym i mean obviously like there's

00:51:50.403 --> 00:51:51.943
a really good mma scene too same

00:51:51.943 --> 00:51:58.543
in the same place like miami area is is great for for mma uh we go there.

00:52:00.083 --> 00:52:03.063
Every maybe a couple times a year go go to

00:52:03.063 --> 00:52:06.623
my coach bring some of us to to kill cliff and

00:52:06.623 --> 00:52:09.443
train with some of those guys and you know being able to train with

00:52:09.443 --> 00:52:12.743
some of the top guys in the world is really cool uh but

00:52:12.743 --> 00:52:15.443
yeah and then jujitsu wise as well like i know

00:52:15.443 --> 00:52:18.303
that there's tons of guys who are out here

00:52:18.303 --> 00:52:22.003
competing on a daily basis and they're doing the adcc stuff um

00:52:22.003 --> 00:52:25.283
the gracie gracie uh

00:52:25.283 --> 00:52:28.043
tampa south the place that i train at on

00:52:28.043 --> 00:52:30.743
mondays like i cross train at like they have a bunch of guys

00:52:30.743 --> 00:52:34.143
that do the adccs and is that matt arroyo's place

00:52:34.143 --> 00:52:36.983
yeah it's matt arroyo yeah i know matt arroyo it's a

00:52:36.983 --> 00:52:41.223
really good place yeah one of the best he's he's like again like speaking about

00:52:41.223 --> 00:52:45.583
somebody who's like been super cool about me cross training they're like the

00:52:45.583 --> 00:52:49.303
nicest guy like he he's he's let me come in and roll with the guys on monday

00:52:49.303 --> 00:52:54.643
and yeah like i get really high quality rolls you know rolling with those black belts and,

00:52:55.543 --> 00:52:59.583
it's definitely helped i mean like matt matt too like rolling with matt even

00:52:59.583 --> 00:53:04.463
though he crushes me every time we roll um you know it's it's helped level up

00:53:04.463 --> 00:53:08.923
my jujitsu game so it's there's there's definitely tons of really great partners out here.

00:53:09.303 --> 00:53:13.383
If you make it down to like South Florida, dude, check out Fight Sports and Wagner Hotels.

00:53:13.623 --> 00:53:16.443
I mean, they've always been really welcoming to me. When I go down there,

00:53:16.543 --> 00:53:19.583
they also have a good culture for like, I mean, those are, you probably know,

00:53:19.743 --> 00:53:21.763
Fight Sports is cyborg, so I'm sure you've heard of that, dude.

00:53:22.563 --> 00:53:27.423
Wagner just competed in the UFC BJJ event like two days ago against...

00:53:28.402 --> 00:53:31.202
Uh william andrew tackett who is like

00:53:31.202 --> 00:53:34.602
20 or 21 or something so he's like 21 years

00:53:34.602 --> 00:53:37.742
older than him dude but he like it was super

00:53:37.742 --> 00:53:40.542
competitive um i mean all i'm saying really is

00:53:40.542 --> 00:53:43.462
that these guys are like top of the sport um they love

00:53:43.462 --> 00:53:46.142
visitors they love especially like someone like you they'd love to have you on

00:53:46.142 --> 00:53:50.022
the mat man just someone's gonna keep like the integrity of the training uh yeah

00:53:50.022 --> 00:53:53.062
kind of like protocol it's just like a guy who wants he's there to do take care

00:53:53.062 --> 00:53:55.922
of business like get better good attitude kind of

00:53:55.922 --> 00:53:58.642
understands like hey we're not here to hurt each other but like let's let's bang

00:53:58.642 --> 00:54:02.002
it out let's make this a good one um so they've

00:54:02.002 --> 00:54:05.302
always been really cool to me but like i there's a bunch of other places in

00:54:05.302 --> 00:54:08.342
south florida that i've heard are amazing i just generally hone in on those

00:54:08.342 --> 00:54:13.942
two when i go down there why mix it up well it's like if i go travel like it's

00:54:13.942 --> 00:54:18.222
like i could mix it up but if i'm by the time i get from you know virginia to

00:54:18.222 --> 00:54:20.222
south florida i'm just gonna go to where i know you.

00:54:21.515 --> 00:54:24.595
And they're good and they're cool. And like the times of the day too, I love it.

00:54:24.695 --> 00:54:30.395
It's like they train, their pro practice at fight sports is around 9am, Monday through Friday.

00:54:30.575 --> 00:54:32.975
And so they will shift like gi, no gi, like every other day.

00:54:33.035 --> 00:54:36.095
So I forgot the specific days. Like I thought, I think it's Tuesday,

00:54:36.215 --> 00:54:38.295
Thursdays for no gi, something like that.

00:54:38.475 --> 00:54:41.775
But it's like, and dude, like they, they, because of what you said,

00:54:41.875 --> 00:54:44.895
Dave, where they're like, they're training for ADCC and stuff like these guys,

00:54:44.995 --> 00:54:46.095
they're not really pulling guard.

00:54:46.295 --> 00:54:49.415
Like you might see some of that, but which, you know, is, is relevant when

00:54:49.415 --> 00:54:51.995
you're doing the sport of jiu-jitsu because people are going to do that so you

00:54:51.995 --> 00:54:54.875
got to see it but yeah those guys are like they want to fight on the feet like

00:54:54.875 --> 00:54:57.575
so they'll they'll bang it out they'll wrestle with you which is cool too so it

00:54:57.575 --> 00:55:00.835
gives you like probably for what you're doing too like a better

00:55:00.835 --> 00:55:04.015
version of grappling anyways and then some dude just trying to grab your grab

00:55:04.015 --> 00:55:07.495
your leg and sit to guard yeah uh 100

00:55:07.495 --> 00:55:10.815
it's funny i actually learned that pretty pretty quickly

00:55:10.815 --> 00:55:13.635
because i mean i i didn't i wasn't used to it because

00:55:13.635 --> 00:55:16.815
not many people do that at dma like i mean at dma everyone was

00:55:16.815 --> 00:55:19.735
down to wrestle and i came

00:55:19.735 --> 00:55:22.815
here and i had to get really quickly

00:55:22.815 --> 00:55:25.675
accustomed to people pulling guard and trying to

00:55:25.675 --> 00:55:28.675
leg lock me and heel hook me for

00:55:28.675 --> 00:55:31.675
literally everything that i did so one i

00:55:31.675 --> 00:55:34.935
guess my defense got a lot better in that regard but yeah

00:55:34.935 --> 00:55:37.615
it is it is nice going with people who are you know

00:55:37.615 --> 00:55:41.395
down to wrestle down to move on your feet and yeah they'll

00:55:41.395 --> 00:55:44.035
eventually pull guard but yeah eventually they will

00:55:44.035 --> 00:55:46.935
they'll give you like a good minute when they're like nah man

00:55:46.935 --> 00:55:50.355
i want to wrestle with this guy i'm gonna go for a heel hook it's you

00:55:50.355 --> 00:55:53.695
know but you know man i feel like once a year you'll see

00:55:53.695 --> 00:55:56.355
some mma highlight somewhere like i said

00:55:56.355 --> 00:55:59.355
once a year not a ton where some dude in some

00:55:59.355 --> 00:56:02.335
fight somewhere and it's i mean occasionally the

00:56:02.335 --> 00:56:06.035
ufc but like it's usually like you know like a different program or different

00:56:06.035 --> 00:56:09.115
event or whatever but someone once a year will make like a highlight reel leg

00:56:09.115 --> 00:56:12.875
lock in mma but you don't see it too much more than that no every once in a.

00:56:12.875 --> 00:56:16.755
While you get like the that like weird Ryan Hall moment right like this guard

00:56:16.755 --> 00:56:19.635
sit butt scoot into the legs yeah.

00:56:20.455 --> 00:56:26.095
That's probably once every two to three years yeah for good reason you get that highlight yeah,

00:56:27.571 --> 00:56:33.631
yeah it's it's tough i mean like if you get it like it's obviously it's it's

00:56:33.631 --> 00:56:37.131
really really tough to get out of it's just as long as you can protect your

00:56:37.131 --> 00:56:38.391
face because you're gonna be,

00:56:39.351 --> 00:56:43.051
as long as the guy knows what he's doing or able to slightly defend it like

00:56:43.051 --> 00:56:47.391
you're about to get you're gonna blast in a bunch of yeah you're gonna blast into the face.

00:56:50.391 --> 00:56:53.231
Yeah some people's body body like the

00:56:53.231 --> 00:56:56.011
way they're built it just works out well for them if they're long and

00:56:56.011 --> 00:56:58.731
they can get their face away from somebody and the other person might be

00:56:58.731 --> 00:57:01.531
shorter or shorter arms and yeah if

00:57:01.531 --> 00:57:05.291
you get your face away from that like yeah it's like you're gonna get stuck

00:57:05.291 --> 00:57:12.111
there for sure dude um what let's go ahead and plug your shit because uh we're

00:57:12.111 --> 00:57:15.851
coming up on an hour here so let's go ahead and any of the stuff you want to

00:57:15.851 --> 00:57:19.271
direct people towards you know um so the honey biz,

00:57:20.102 --> 00:57:23.282
Are you still running the Farm to Fuel?

00:57:24.042 --> 00:57:28.442
Yeah. So like the Farm to Fuel transitioned to the honey biz.

00:57:28.642 --> 00:57:30.122
So that's where it's under.

00:57:30.402 --> 00:57:35.322
But yeah, so farmtofuelfoods.com is the website.

00:57:35.762 --> 00:57:38.822
Our flagship product is Hibernation Honey.

00:57:40.242 --> 00:57:46.982
Simple, clean ingredients. I guess going back to me calling out the clean,

00:57:47.122 --> 00:57:51.982
good label, is, you know, there's nothing more than it's just raw honey,

00:57:52.442 --> 00:57:56.422
glycine, L-thalene, magnesium glycinate.

00:57:58.162 --> 00:58:02.762
Organic tart cherry powder, purified water, and salt.

00:58:03.042 --> 00:58:09.462
Like, those are the only ingredients that should be ready to launch in the next couple weeks.

00:58:09.722 --> 00:58:14.462
So, yeah, keep an eye out for that. Pre-orders are open, so if you want to place

00:58:14.462 --> 00:58:16.542
an order, pre-orders are open.

00:58:18.262 --> 00:58:21.182
And yeah like uh i'm you know definitely be

00:58:21.182 --> 00:58:24.382
focused on on growing that biz along with

00:58:24.382 --> 00:58:27.822
you know continuing to you know fight and

00:58:27.822 --> 00:58:31.342
and trying to trying to work my way up the ladder there well

00:58:31.342 --> 00:58:35.882
and outside of uh hibernation honey how can they follow your mma career where

00:58:35.882 --> 00:58:40.522
can they find out what's going on for you there and uh you know your socials

00:58:40.522 --> 00:58:46.862
that stuff you know yeah good call um uh you can follow me at uh burguita mma

00:58:46.862 --> 00:58:51.262
uh so it's that's my that's my um,

00:58:52.078 --> 00:58:54.838
What would you call it? The last name? That's my tat. Yeah, well, yeah.

00:58:56.238 --> 00:58:59.338
Plus MMA. We could put that in the show notes for you too, bro.

00:58:59.418 --> 00:59:02.438
We'll put that in your website. So like, it's also easy for people to click on.

00:59:02.658 --> 00:59:05.278
Yeah, so everything will be down in the show notes. So they can,

00:59:05.538 --> 00:59:07.998
you know, highlight, copy, paste, click.

00:59:08.638 --> 00:59:11.878
It'll hyperlink. The link should be hyperlinked. Usually does. Perfect.

00:59:12.158 --> 00:59:17.058
But so all that, I'll throw all that in there so they can very easily get there.

00:59:17.998 --> 00:59:20.318
Last thing though, Dave, hey, what's, so like on the fight career,

00:59:20.398 --> 00:59:22.638
what's next for you, man? I know you just came off of a good win.

00:59:23.138 --> 00:59:24.278
What are you thinking next?

00:59:27.118 --> 00:59:31.158
Yeah, obviously I want to fight as soon as possible. I have a newborn at home.

00:59:32.018 --> 00:59:34.178
Congratulations, man. Congrats. Thank you.

00:59:35.098 --> 00:59:38.178
Yeah, she is definitely my world.

00:59:39.038 --> 00:59:44.098
And my wife's been doing a great job holding it down while I've been training for this last fight.

00:59:44.598 --> 00:59:48.818
But yeah, just need to figure out some stuff at home and whatnot.

00:59:49.158 --> 00:59:54.118
But yeah, trying to fight as soon as possible. So hoping for early summer to

00:59:54.118 --> 00:59:55.378
try to get another fight.

00:59:55.518 --> 00:59:58.418
It'd be great to fight on that same promotion that I just fought on.

00:59:58.538 --> 01:00:02.158
It's called Samurai up in Canada and they're on Fight Pass.

01:00:02.478 --> 01:00:07.378
They did a great job and they treated me very well. So would like to stick with them.

01:00:07.618 --> 01:00:11.878
But at the end of the day, I follow wherever the options are.

01:00:12.078 --> 01:00:17.998
So if someone offers me a fight that makes sense, I definitely will take that

01:00:17.998 --> 01:00:22.438
on. But yeah, next thing for me is just try to get another fight,

01:00:22.438 --> 01:00:27.018
either at 160 or even making it down to 155 this time.

01:00:27.278 --> 01:00:30.938
So that was a new weight class for me. I've been fighting at welterweight for

01:00:30.938 --> 01:00:35.858
my entire career and finally made my way down to that lower weight class.

01:00:35.858 --> 01:00:37.158
I think it's a good fit for me.

01:00:38.298 --> 01:00:41.738
And yeah, that's probably what's next on the horizon. It's just,

01:00:41.818 --> 01:00:44.698
you know, the next couple months, try to get another fight down there.

01:00:45.651 --> 01:00:51.451
Awesome, man. Congratulations on the recent win. Congratulations on the newborn kid.

01:00:52.091 --> 01:00:56.371
I'm a dad myself. It's fun. So enjoy that part of it, too.

01:00:57.091 --> 01:01:01.451
Appreciate it. So that's awesome, man. Thanks for coming on the show.

01:01:01.751 --> 01:01:03.411
This has been Fighters Drinking Coffee.

01:01:04.271 --> 01:01:10.971
Everybody, definitely go check out Dave's Hibernation Honey and follow him on

01:01:10.971 --> 01:01:14.731
Instagram. There's some cool, you can watch his career unfold.

01:01:15.911 --> 01:01:17.391
If he's on Fight Pass now, you

01:01:17.391 --> 01:01:21.211
can also hone in on when he's actually fighting, so you can watch that.

01:01:21.791 --> 01:01:25.971
So that'll be fun, especially now, if we're going to be watching that ourselves.

01:01:26.611 --> 01:01:31.051
Ooh, we could do a fight companion for one of those. That would be kind of cool. That would be awesome.

01:01:32.311 --> 01:01:35.751
But, yeah, man, so thanks for coming on the show. This has been Fire Drinking Coffee.

01:01:36.011 --> 01:01:40.811
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01:01:41.371 --> 01:01:45.811
All of those things helps us out. So definitely hop on, do that.

01:01:45.911 --> 01:01:48.011
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01:01:48.691 --> 01:01:53.351
I appreciate you guys having me. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Stay healthy. Keep fighting, man.

01:01:54.131 --> 01:01:55.831
Take care of the family. It's awesome talking to you, dude.