Why You Keep Training: Finding Your 'Why' in Jiu-Jitsu (Episode 65)

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Do you ever struggle to find the motivation to train?

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On today's episode, we get into that and why you should continue to train and

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the why behind the reason you started training in the first place.

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So we all have different reasons why we do jiu-jitsu why we train for jiu-jitsu

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um so scott why do you like to train why do you train for jiu-jitsu well why

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do i like why do i why i chose to train um why i keep training yeah um you know

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this is a good question man um,

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i'll go back to i guess my origin stories uh for for jiu-jitsu and getting into

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martial arts in general, but, you know, when you ask the question,

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and I can probably make this entire episode about myself, which I won't do,

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but I could, because I could give that, and that answer's, it's a long answer,

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but I'd say like the quick,

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I think, honest answer is, for me, when I started training 21 years ago, when I was 18, and.

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This is there's like a what i like about this too

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this concept is like the why i think hopefully for people listening to

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and for ourselves for a little bit here we can kind of go like a little bit deeper on

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our psychology in a cool way um and

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for me to touch upon that like i said i'm

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not gonna make i'm not gonna go all the way to the depths of my childhood

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and uh psychology but i will i will touch

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on some of it because i think that would just take too long and we're gonna make this episode like

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an episode like a therapy thing for me but um so so

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for me i like i said i was 18 i graduated from high

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school and i was this is

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the the direction i'll take it i was a pretty competitive swimmer

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uh but i never really gave a shit about the

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sport i just did it because it was this is key to my story it was like a sport

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that i was my parents put me in um and i played a bunch of other sports growing

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up like every sport you think of baseball uh basketball all that never really

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liked soccer i was never very good at it i always wanted to use my hands but

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um i just bring that up because, um,

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swimming was the one that I did the most and I was competitive at it.

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And, uh, there was like, I'll, I'll never forget this.

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Like I was in high school and I started getting like scholarship offers for,

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for, for college, for swimming, but I just didn't really care about swimming that much.

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Um, but I remember having this moment where I was like, damn dude,

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I'm actually pretty good at this.

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People are like offering to let, to pay for school for it, but I don't really

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want to continue doing, I don't like it that much. But then again,

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a scholarship would be nice.

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And I'll never forget because like throughout all of that, like I always, I swam.

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Consistently from the age of six until 18 every year.

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And while I was competitive at it, there were people who were doing it,

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who like invested more, who like just clearly worked harder than I did, who always beat me.

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And I would like on talent and some degree of work compete with these dudes.

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I beat them sometimes I get beat some other times.

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And then there were dudes out there who just like their work just stood out

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and like naturally they were bigger and like, well, Well, I'd say that that's

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a bit of like the context, but like some of these guys were just like built for swimming.

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Plus they also outworked me like a ton.

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And those guys always beat me. I would get close, but they would just consistently always beat me.

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I remember thinking like, I had this moment where I was like,

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you know, comfortable with my choice of like, I never really cared about swimming

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enough to like really want to do it a lot.

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But I remember thinking like having this moment of like, dude,

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if I'd have tried harder, I could have maybe gotten a little more out of this

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sport of swimming. And while I'm fine not doing that, because it's never really

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something I was that passionate about.

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For me, when I got out of high school and I was like, I'm done with swimming,

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I was actually coaching something.

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I still like being around and I enjoyed that process and everything and being around the team.

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Like, there's a lot of great things about it, just the sport itself. I just like being fast.

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Yeah. I like quick. I like looking at the times. I like the numbers. I like the improvement.

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I like the competition aspect of it, which, you know, we'll come back to, I guess, in jujitsu.

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But the reason I bring it on up is when I graduated, as a kid, I was always into...

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I loved anything involving violent fighting movies and cool punching and kicking

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and shit, like Jet Li movies and shit, like martial arts shit,

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Arnold Schwarzenegger beating the shit out of everyone. I was like,

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all right, dude, I want to know how to fight. I was 18. They say you're a man when you're 18.

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Anyways, and I was off, out of the house. I'm like, I need to grow up. I had...

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A family friend who had, uh, and I, you know, expressed some interest in martial

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arts and a buddy who had done it, who kind of like pointed me towards what was my first gym.

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But I say all that to say that I, after that, I like, I wanted to still have

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a sport, something athletic and something cool to learn like martial arts.

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Um, it had always been on my mind and that just, you know, I kind of got lucky.

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It just kind of came to me at a time. I was like, this sounds like a pretty cool thing to do.

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Um, I went and I did it. And once I took like my first,

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it was actually i went in for judo because i didn't know what jiu-jitsu was

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this is in 2005 and in kentucky um there

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was jiu-jitsu but it wasn't like as big and mainstream as it is

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now but i uh i went in and i talked to the uh the owner of the gym shout out

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to mike o'donnell who was a truly unique and amazing cool as hell human being

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subject for another day very interesting awesome guy um i did a private lesson

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with him and he like he was like yeah look you can come here we have judo at

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this gym that's no problem we got that if that's what you want he said you should

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consider checking out jiu-jitsu.

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He's like, it's kind of picking up. It's going to become the new thing.

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It's this hot new thing we got. Seriously. That's what it was.

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He was like, you should try that too. He's like, we got a bunch of that.

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So we have a little bit of judo, but you should consider that.

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I was like, all right, cool, man.

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And he's like, it's with your membership, so you should do it. So I did.

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And I remember doing it, and obviously like most people, when you first do it, you're bad at it.

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But I remember thinking like, I want to know how to do this stuff.

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This is so cool. Yeah, I just remember thinking like, this is something I want to be good at.

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What it was for me. It was like, I chose once I was exposed to it,

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I decided I wanted to do that.

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And so I referenced the swimming story because I remember thinking as time went

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on, I was like, dude, this is like, since I'm, I'm choosing this sport,

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this martial art, and like, I want to get the most out of it.

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I don't want to like look back one day, like I did with swimming and say,

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fuck man, like if I had tried a little bit harder, I could have done a little bit better.

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So I think I, I say that to say maybe the challenge of it.

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Um, I mean, it's, you know, when you.

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People listening to this and we now obviously know intimately

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like what this martial art involves but i remember like observing like

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whoa dude this is like it's like you wrestle with dudes and then like you get them to

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tap out i'm like fuck yeah if i want to be good at anything i want to be the

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best at this i can possibly be this is this is

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exciting i this i was all

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in on wanting to do it and then i you know my my.

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Investment in it it scaled up as time went on

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but yeah i guess that's my story there was like this is cool

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I chose it rather than it being chose for me like most

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sports when you're a kid by your parents um and so

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my thing was and this time has gone on I've

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tried to invest as much as I possibly could in it um that's

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my thing my thing is like I want to do as best I can in

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this and be the best I possibly can at it I had

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um I said my current why but

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like i have a similar origin story with

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like high school sports getting out

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of high school sports and like i mean i i had

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always wished i started wrestling sooner and uh

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so like i mean i came from wrestling instead of so there's a slightly

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different transition right like it was a little more

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linear yeah but i didn't have

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to get out of a pool to do the sport um but i

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was so ready to get out of the pool but the

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uh but my that like

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i mean you might have felt it too like the there's like a hole when you're not

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competing like that like gap right like you feel like there's some missing aspect

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um i like because i started jujitsu in college like went in college as well and um that.

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Like space like i didn't start

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until later in like the first semester so i had

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like a couple i mean i had from whenever i dislocated

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my knee i guess i still wrestled some in the

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summer but of course you did with the dislocated knee after no

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in but at post dislocated i healed my

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knee basically you know like at least six to

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eight months of no like competitive sport and then i was like i like need something

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uh but i initially got into jiu-jitsu to do mma but like that the thing that

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drove me there was like i need this get this like.

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Gap in my being to be filled by some thing. And I need to find like a new competitive

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sport to like hone in on or like have something to focus on.

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And, uh, that was what jujitsu became.

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Um, and we've talked about obsession and all of that.

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There was definitely obsession involved, but like that competitive sport, something to, I mean.

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I competed within like the first month or too you've told

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that story i like that story but you know i i needed

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that and like structure i mean i

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you know fight camps and stuff but like something to hone

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in on and focus on and try to

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like solve because like problem solving and

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like puzzles and stuff is challenges man yeah something

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hard challenging competitive to

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like focus energy on and that so

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like similarly to you like that was what kind

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of drew me into it and like i initially was like i just need to like learn sub

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jiu-jitsu so i can fight and then i mean i ultimately just

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fell in love with the jiu-jitsu jiu-jitsu aspect of it because like getting

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hit in the head sucks so you know i if

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i could do it i don't know i wouldn't change anything it was fine the

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way it all played out is great but uh i would

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you know i i needed that aspect of

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it was what brought me to it and like that's i mean

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that's still part of it but you know some of the some of

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the i guess that's the why the motivation is

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slightly changed right like because the motivations there is

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a separation between motivation and like why you do

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something yeah um so like the motivation and like why i do it now has evolved

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from that initial reasoning and like so now it's still the the challenge and

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the problem solving is still part of it now there's a little bit of like a little

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bit of outward motivation as well like i want to show...

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These people in my life that I, that this is, you can do hard things,

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but ultimately it all still kind of inwardly selfishly is around that one filling

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that, that hole in my being, I guess. I get it.

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Um, the, the missing part, trying

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to rebuild a missing part of my soul or something. I don't know. Yeah.

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That's most likely what mine is too, man. For me, like just to add to it a little bit,

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like I actually didn't start competing until like rather I say,

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I'll say late in quotes in my tenure it's been a long time but i like i had

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competed a little bit i actually competed in judo a couple times when i was

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still a white belt uh and then i did a few jiu-jitsu tournaments,

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um around blue belt and then

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i moved to dc and like i i moved around a little bit so it wasn't as consistent

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on the mat and then in virginia around brown belt was when i decided and this

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i guess like to your point like if we're talking about the roots of like our

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souls that pushes us to do this stuff um.

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For me and i think this is still kind of my call to action

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on the like doing the best i possibly can and i like i for

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early on i was

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just trying to like get better at the martial art and just kind of enjoying

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it for what it was you know let's say white through purple belt um and you know

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i'm the kind of guy who like for something to like he's the kind of guy who's

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got some addd and adhd and all the versions of that.

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And so it's, you know, it was like as time went on, it was like the only consistent

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thing that I wanted to do all the time.

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You know, I'll have interest in all sorts of other things. Like any person with

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AD, I'll get like really sidetracked on like a movie or a book or like a historical

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thread that I'll read a bunch of shit on.

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I'll get super excited about and I'll go deep on it. No, I get it.

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Right? Yeah, of course you get it.

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But this was, but the one thing I kept on doing was jujitsu and I kept on wanting to do it.

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And I was like, So I say that to say, for me, what I've tried to do,

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or what I say tried to do, maybe it just kind of happened to me,

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is I've continually just...

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Keep making deposits into my jiu-jitsu account to

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keep on pushing it a little bit more like i decided around brown button

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you know this because it's like about around the time we started working together

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a lot this was like yeah 13 or 14 years you're hitting a circuit hard together

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yeah that was what i wanted like i i i didn't think that i didn't know when

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i started that i'd make a career out of it uh or that you even could for that

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matter i mean it was very difficult at that time to,

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outside of like, outside of, well, the path. The business path.

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Yeah, but outside of that, there wasn't like, even that was still somewhat shaky

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at the time. Yeah. Compared to it is now.

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Oh, totally, totally. And quite frankly, there wasn't a lot of competition back then.

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There were competitions, especially around here, to contrast that with Kentucky,

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which is just not as, like, it's not a metropolitan area.

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Like, there's not as, where I was in central Kentucky wasn't like as, it's not as dense,

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and there's not as much of a prevalence of

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the community to like constantly have competitive opportunities and

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there were a lot more in this area when i moved up here um

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and i say that to say that um at that around that

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phase because i wasn't like we weren't we were kind

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of the competitive culture of that gym of

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no of mma there weren't dudes doing that so we kind of had to like spearhead it

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yeah we i mean we chose to do it it worked yeah

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like we weren't there wasn't like it wasn't a competitive gym where like

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everyone does this it was sort of like let's make let's kind of make this

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push and we were in a position too to create it

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because we were the top of the grappling program so

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we had we had the kind of

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the leeway to build that competitive culture

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as well which i mean most of those guys competed but you know almost everyone

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the exception like less people didn't fewer people didn't compete than competed

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i think yeah well and so and at the end of it yeah i know what you mean um when my choice was around,

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like, I think I remember having this like decision or this like thought process

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of like, well, okay, like, I mean, okay, well, I'm coaching, like what's, you know.

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I'm a head coach, which, you know, in quotes. So I need to continue my development

00:15:16.747 --> 00:15:20.287
too to continue to like have something valuable to share to people.

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And so it just made sense. I was like, well, like I gotta, I guess I have to go compete now.

00:15:25.987 --> 00:15:31.427
I gotta go like, go out there and sort of like face the unknown and figure out what more I can gain.

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Cause there wasn't really a head coach giving me advice at that time.

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I had to seek out, my coaches were spread out. So I had to like do that kind

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of almost like virtually.

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So in a lot of ways, it was like, that was the only way for me to go out and

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like continue my progression to then have something valuable.

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Because like if, like an object in motion tends to stay in motion,

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like if we stop doing that, well then, I would, I don't think you have to compete necessarily.

00:16:01.227 --> 00:16:03.827
I think it's the best possible way. I'm sure we're gonna talk about this a lot in this episode.

00:16:04.147 --> 00:16:06.327
I think it's the best way to continue learning. Yeah, I mean,

00:16:06.407 --> 00:16:07.687
turn a Toshan position, right?

00:16:07.867 --> 00:16:10.587
Like it's not the only way to do it. like there's a lot of other ways to seek

00:16:10.587 --> 00:16:13.347
out new information um but i think it's the best way to learn

00:16:13.347 --> 00:16:16.087
um and so that was my position in

00:16:16.087 --> 00:16:19.027
my in my decision i was excited and like challenged and kind of nervous about

00:16:19.027 --> 00:16:21.887
it i'm like i'm gonna go be a competitor now that's what i was

00:16:21.887 --> 00:16:24.707
saying about i continue to make more deposits in the bank of jiu-jitsu of like

00:16:24.707 --> 00:16:27.207
i want to get a little more out of this i want to get a little more out of

00:16:27.207 --> 00:16:29.147
this i think i can do a little bit better i can do a little bit better i can

00:16:29.147 --> 00:16:30.107
do a little bit better so that's

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um in in an environment where we weren't

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being like there were not like you

00:16:36.027 --> 00:16:38.867
said a moment ago wasn't like everyone in the room was already doing

00:16:38.867 --> 00:16:41.707
this yeah sort of like let's go do this for everyone

00:16:41.707 --> 00:16:45.067
else in the room and for ourselves of course um because

00:16:45.067 --> 00:16:48.407
that will pay dividends down the road and

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so i think even just since then it's like i've that's been my um i guess my

00:16:54.027 --> 00:16:57.127
my motivation continue to do this stuff is like i think i can do a little more

00:16:57.127 --> 00:17:00.447
i think i can do a little better just keep pushing myself a little bit yeah

00:17:00.447 --> 00:17:04.907
um and and that's that's yeah the motivation aspect of it because we have the

00:17:04.907 --> 00:17:06.747
why and, like, the motivation of, like...

00:17:07.908 --> 00:17:12.328
I'm doing this to achieve getting better, right, right?

00:17:12.448 --> 00:17:16.628
Like I want to get better at jujitsu, so I'm going to keep doing jujitsu and

00:17:16.628 --> 00:17:23.708
I want to get better because of this core reason why, right?

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And I mean, just to frame as well,

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the motivation to compete is

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especially driven when you don't have

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someone that you can learn from every day

00:17:38.088 --> 00:17:43.268
right like if you're dedicating more of your mat time to well outside of just

00:17:43.268 --> 00:17:47.528
like drilling but there's not like the mat time where you're explicitly learning

00:17:47.528 --> 00:17:54.408
you might still be getting better but you're not learning right um that going

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out and competing i mean especially like when we were teaching every class, right?

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Like, we weren't... There were fewer classes that we were students in than we

00:18:01.568 --> 00:18:04.408
were teaching at the time, and probably even now, right?

00:18:05.068 --> 00:18:08.548
I mean, you still learn from roles and whatever. But it's different.

00:18:08.688 --> 00:18:12.468
You're right. But so you have this opportunity when you compete to...

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Learn something which is a whole other

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topic but you have this opportunity to to

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like battle test it and learn things from

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those moments of like live and

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almost like high stakes interaction with the

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sport and with like another battle test

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a competitor right like someone else who's game to sit to like

00:18:36.593 --> 00:18:39.313
they want to beat you yeah like this is so you get to

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try it out and you'll actually learn a lot doing that and

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so you know that's helps when your motive when your motivation for training

00:18:47.473 --> 00:18:54.953
is to get continuously get better that competition especially when you don't

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have other you don't have someone to learn from is the way that you learn right like that's.

00:19:01.273 --> 00:19:09.753
Yeah that's yes yeah yeah well said yeah so um you know that kind of fills the gap of having,

00:19:10.533 --> 00:19:14.133
an instructor who's instructing you every day because you

00:19:14.133 --> 00:19:16.993
don't have someone who's like correcting your stuff all the time because you're

00:19:16.993 --> 00:19:20.893
the one that's doing that right so it gives

00:19:20.893 --> 00:19:23.993
you that opportunity for that like oh shit

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like i need to do this this stuff's not being i'm not doing these things correctly

00:19:28.413 --> 00:19:31.893
let's fix it and let's do it again let's fix it let's do it again you get like

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this opportunity to do that through competition so like it helps you meet i

00:19:36.573 --> 00:19:39.253
explain you know i I guess I'm explaining the motivation for that.

00:19:39.473 --> 00:19:41.133
Yeah, you're saying exactly right. Yeah.

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That's exactly what, yeah, spot on, dude.

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And so, you know, that's our reasoning, right?

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And just to reiterate the difference, it's like why is the why that we're discussing

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here is the reason for...

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Getting into the sport in like the core

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driving aspect the motivation is probably more

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current um and it's what is

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supported by the the

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why to drive your training

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forward so um at least that's how

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i'm defining it i think it makes sense i think that's i don't know if that's

00:20:20.789 --> 00:20:23.969
fully textbook but it seems close enough yeah um it

00:20:23.969 --> 00:20:26.669
does and so like that's our

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reason there's plenty of other reasons out there like you have

00:20:29.309 --> 00:20:32.349
people that the reason why is

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they want we talked about this on another episode where the

00:20:35.829 --> 00:20:40.209
reason why is they want to be able to defend themselves in you

00:20:40.209 --> 00:20:44.869
know just a random situation out in public or there's people that just want

00:20:44.869 --> 00:20:48.609
to learn stuff you know they just like learning so people just like to learn

00:20:48.609 --> 00:20:54.849
new things there's some people that um kind of enjoy this i mean similarly but

00:20:54.849 --> 00:20:59.469
people that are into the problem-solving aspect there's people that.

00:21:00.409 --> 00:21:03.609
Some people just like the general frustration

00:21:03.609 --> 00:21:06.249
of learning new things this was a new one that

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came up in my messages the other day and we're like i was

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like i don't think i would like this if i wasn't so

00:21:11.949 --> 00:21:14.689
frustrated by it i'm like yeah so you know some

00:21:14.689 --> 00:21:17.469
people enjoy that aspect complexity of it yeah

00:21:17.469 --> 00:21:20.709
um some people i

00:21:20.709 --> 00:21:23.469
don't know i imagine there's people that like beating people up there's people that

00:21:23.469 --> 00:21:26.409
like getting beat up i don't know well you know i mean like there's all those tons

00:21:26.409 --> 00:21:29.809
of other yeah yeah i think all of those things i respond to all those things

00:21:29.809 --> 00:21:33.709
too and maybe at any given point in the last like 21 years i've done it any

00:21:33.709 --> 00:21:36.929
one of those could have been like the number one we'll say motivating factor

00:21:36.929 --> 00:21:40.769
at any given time um but yeah those are all like selling points this episode's

00:21:40.769 --> 00:21:46.109
about selling jiu-jitsu yeah um but it sells itself that's the cool thing about it um.

00:21:47.951 --> 00:21:51.571
Yeah, I think all of those things. And you made this comment earlier about how,

00:21:51.571 --> 00:21:55.391
like, the why or the motivation, if it's, like, a Venn diagram,

00:21:55.411 --> 00:21:56.451
they overlap or whatever.

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Like, these things will, like, they'll evolve or expand as time goes on.

00:22:04.551 --> 00:22:06.971
Or maybe it even contracts down to, like, one construct.

00:22:07.091 --> 00:22:09.311
You have an even simpler answer as time goes on, too.

00:22:09.471 --> 00:22:12.671
If you do this long enough. And they'll shift. And I'm sure there's times where it'll separate.

00:22:12.931 --> 00:22:15.591
And that's when people get lost. There have been lots of times,

00:22:15.671 --> 00:22:18.091
too, where I haven't felt super motivated to do it. But like,

00:22:18.211 --> 00:22:22.651
interestingly enough, I guess my why took over because I've only done more and

00:22:22.651 --> 00:22:24.411
more jujitsu over the last 21 years.

00:22:24.471 --> 00:22:27.471
Like I look at my calendar, the amount of time I've been on the mat,

00:22:27.731 --> 00:22:30.691
a lot of that has to do with owning an academy, but it's like,

00:22:30.691 --> 00:22:34.511
that's what I want to do, whether I'm aware of it or not.

00:22:34.611 --> 00:22:37.471
And like, maybe some days I'm like frustrated and in physical pain,

00:22:37.611 --> 00:22:43.911
but I'm still doing it like 25, I'm on the mat a ridiculous amount of times. Well, I'm sure it is.

00:22:44.231 --> 00:22:47.271
Like, this is where I want to be. Well, I'm sure that you run into this too,

00:22:47.391 --> 00:22:51.231
where like there's days and you mentioned there's days we're not motivated,

00:22:51.371 --> 00:22:54.211
but there's days like there's, you don't have the motivation to do it,

00:22:54.291 --> 00:22:56.371
but you like have to remind yourself why you do it.

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And so like, that's what puts you back on the mat. So like, that's why that's

00:22:59.731 --> 00:23:05.171
the real like powerful force of getting you out there. The force it's back. It is the force.

00:23:05.991 --> 00:23:09.491
You're right, man. And like with that plus, I also think, and like you'll hear

00:23:09.491 --> 00:23:12.151
like, there's like all kinds of athletes and there's like, you know.

00:23:12.971 --> 00:23:16.051
In the day and age of social media, there's like a trillion...

00:23:18.577 --> 00:23:21.557
Motivational slash like role model type people posting shit

00:23:21.557 --> 00:23:25.197
about motivation you gotta like have the discipline which is all true um

00:23:25.197 --> 00:23:28.057
you just have to do it i mean i think the good thing

00:23:28.057 --> 00:23:30.777
about like the last 21 years and me choosing to make

00:23:30.777 --> 00:23:34.477
a career out of this is that now it's like my job which is there's i

00:23:34.477 --> 00:23:38.337
don't negotiate with myself that's what i'm saying yeah i can't not

00:23:38.337 --> 00:23:41.237
do it yeah if i'm sick or i'm truly injured all right

00:23:41.237 --> 00:23:44.577
cool when that happens but like you just have to hold yourself accountable um

00:23:44.577 --> 00:23:47.837
and it this it's a privilege to be able to do these things it's like it's pretty

00:23:47.837 --> 00:23:52.877
cool so like any day that i don't feel motivated it's like that's just my problem

00:23:52.877 --> 00:23:56.437
i'll deal with it because i'm gonna go do it yeah coach train whatever like

00:23:56.437 --> 00:23:59.917
it's just a job i'm gonna do it and we've talked about the days where you feel

00:23:59.917 --> 00:24:01.217
flat and you're like all right maybe i.

00:24:01.677 --> 00:24:04.977
Downshift that you know like maybe this is a like day to like i'm overtrained

00:24:04.977 --> 00:24:08.417
or my knee's a little fucked up so i'll modify what i'm doing like you'll have

00:24:08.417 --> 00:24:10.937
those days but you still show up yeah

00:24:11.037 --> 00:24:13.897
and it gets easier yeah it definitely gets

00:24:13.897 --> 00:24:16.757
easier and um but i mean all of that is to

00:24:16.757 --> 00:24:20.617
to frame that like find just

00:24:20.617 --> 00:24:24.097
you know give yourself a little quiz right like why are

00:24:24.097 --> 00:24:27.697
you doing this and i it will ultimately help

00:24:27.697 --> 00:24:30.717
you continue doing it right like if

00:24:30.717 --> 00:24:34.477
you kind of forget or you'd never really go through

00:24:34.477 --> 00:24:38.137
that thought exercise of like why you're doing jiu-jitsu um

00:24:38.137 --> 00:24:41.077
you know think about it right like think back

00:24:41.077 --> 00:24:43.817
to like why did you sign up after that

00:24:43.817 --> 00:24:46.897
trial class and then that you know kind of go

00:24:46.897 --> 00:24:49.717
through all those things all the things like you like about it

00:24:49.717 --> 00:24:52.677
and figure out why you're doing it and

00:24:52.677 --> 00:24:55.457
ultimately to help you find that motivation yeah over and over

00:24:55.457 --> 00:24:58.297
again um and so you

00:24:58.297 --> 00:25:03.557
know that that'll help you like focus in and direct your your why will help

00:25:03.557 --> 00:25:07.617
you focus in and direct towards motivation which will help you get back on the

00:25:07.617 --> 00:25:11.897
mats like every you know whatever your cadences but over and over again um you

00:25:11.897 --> 00:25:16.097
can also like talk to your coach right so there's.

00:25:17.830 --> 00:25:22.950
The meat of this episode is using the why and the motivation to direct your

00:25:22.950 --> 00:25:25.790
training. That's kind of where I want to get this to.

00:25:27.090 --> 00:25:36.610
And so if you know why you're doing it and you know that why is creating a motivation for you,

00:25:37.390 --> 00:25:43.470
you can take that and focus and direct your training to have the – well you

00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:49.490
can use the motivation and the why to create a measurable success right like,

00:25:50.350 --> 00:25:55.570
and for some people this might be daunting but you and this might be something

00:25:55.570 --> 00:25:59.550
i do with your coach might not be able to figure this out alone but you can

00:25:59.550 --> 00:26:03.010
create a measurement of what is.

00:26:04.370 --> 00:26:07.250
Success from my training like what what is the goal

00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:10.050
that i'm trying to reach knowing that this is why

00:26:10.050 --> 00:26:13.550
I do it and this is what motivates me to do it so what

00:26:13.550 --> 00:26:17.230
is how do I measure that I've I'm successful

00:26:17.230 --> 00:26:20.230
in my training it doesn't have to be I mean

00:26:20.230 --> 00:26:23.310
you know if your motivation is to get a black belt on something cool that's fine

00:26:23.310 --> 00:26:26.130
but you know that and that's a goal right like

00:26:26.130 --> 00:26:29.590
that's a very easy that's an easy translation like

00:26:29.590 --> 00:26:32.810
if your goal if your why is that you enjoy create

00:26:32.810 --> 00:26:35.910
getting you enjoy attaining knowledge

00:26:35.910 --> 00:26:39.770
your motivation is to

00:26:39.770 --> 00:26:43.170
attain enough knowledge to reach the top like

00:26:43.170 --> 00:26:50.850
have all of it i guess or have a a mastery in the sense of knowledge of the

00:26:50.850 --> 00:26:56.970
of the sport and your goal is to reach black belt you can now take these things

00:26:56.970 --> 00:27:00.910
and direct your training from point A to point whatever.

00:27:01.090 --> 00:27:04.910
There's more than one, but you can direct your training to achieve your goal

00:27:04.910 --> 00:27:10.370
knowing your pathway can be set using those three points, right?

00:27:10.470 --> 00:27:12.910
Does that sound reasonable?

00:27:14.210 --> 00:27:15.670
Yeah. So...

00:27:17.974 --> 00:27:20.654
Let's do that for ourselves let's do that for

00:27:20.654 --> 00:27:23.734
ourselves let's um so let's let's use ourselves as

00:27:23.734 --> 00:27:26.794
examples here right so both of us have similar whys of the

00:27:26.794 --> 00:27:35.354
kind of like competitive spirit and um problem solving similar you know there's

00:27:35.354 --> 00:27:39.654
a there's a very similar why and motivation involved there so we can almost

00:27:39.654 --> 00:27:44.914
do do this once um yeah well yeah maybe different goals like yeah Yeah.

00:27:45.254 --> 00:27:50.714
I mean, ours are probably pretty similar, but, um, yeah.

00:27:51.054 --> 00:27:55.914
Um, if you're taking the why and like the big picture perspective and bringing

00:27:55.914 --> 00:27:58.834
it down to like day in, day out habits and behaviors on the mat.

00:27:59.888 --> 00:28:03.968
Yeah, I'm saying we'll create the seams. I get what you're saying.

00:28:04.108 --> 00:28:07.068
We'll create a seams fusion of the two of us.

00:28:07.388 --> 00:28:13.828
Sure, sure, sure, sure. And create like one pathway so we don't just create

00:28:13.828 --> 00:28:16.188
an example of doing this and then we can get deeper into it.

00:28:16.468 --> 00:28:23.908
For sure, right? And while we may have fairly unique, bigger picture goals,

00:28:25.008 --> 00:28:29.548
to contrast with a lot of other people who are on the mat with us who may have

00:28:29.548 --> 00:28:32.768
similar but different goals or to a lesser degree or whatever.

00:28:34.208 --> 00:28:37.408
But if we're going to use, I'll use my, you know, I'll speak for myself.

00:28:38.968 --> 00:28:41.628
Back to what I was saying earlier about like kind of doing the best I can.

00:28:41.708 --> 00:28:46.848
I mean, because I have a career investment in this and I've chosen that.

00:28:49.268 --> 00:28:52.348
What I'm going to get to, I'll work kind of like what you just said,

00:28:52.408 --> 00:28:56.228
I'll kind of talk myself backwards into like the day-to-day habits.

00:28:56.368 --> 00:29:00.268
And then we can kind of, If there's something to be gained from that process,

00:29:00.288 --> 00:29:02.568
we can make that applicable to any person listening.

00:29:02.808 --> 00:29:10.328
But because of what I said a second ago about having this decision that was

00:29:10.328 --> 00:29:15.488
made to have a career in this martial art, and many careers,

00:29:15.688 --> 00:29:19.968
and this is a bit of an emerging market, I'll say too.

00:29:19.968 --> 00:29:25.348
Like the martial arts in the United States, like making a career out of it,

00:29:25.448 --> 00:29:28.188
which, you know, in my case, and probably most people's case,

00:29:28.368 --> 00:29:30.908
it means like having a gym or finding a way to monetize it.

00:29:31.008 --> 00:29:34.568
It's not like it's like you go to college and you get a degree and you just get hired by a company.

00:29:34.848 --> 00:29:37.448
It's different, right? You have to like build your own path in a lot of ways.

00:29:37.568 --> 00:29:39.568
So I say that because, um...

00:29:41.263 --> 00:29:45.583
I have, and you definitely have, and like the people listening now,

00:29:45.703 --> 00:29:48.143
like they're coming in, we've said this to me, I was like, they got it so good.

00:29:48.343 --> 00:29:50.523
There's like definitely, there's so many ways to monetize this,

00:29:50.623 --> 00:29:55.903
but like there's been years and years and years and years and years and months

00:29:55.903 --> 00:30:02.223
and years of just me spending money and time on this martial art,

00:30:02.323 --> 00:30:04.143
like making deposits in the bank,

00:30:04.263 --> 00:30:07.903
man, making, making the investments and getting like virtually no money in exchange

00:30:07.903 --> 00:30:11.083
for it until you get to a point where you know how to monetize it,

00:30:11.083 --> 00:30:13.203
like an academy or something like that. Yeah. It's just like a simple, simply put.

00:30:13.783 --> 00:30:16.103
Um, but so I said that because like, I think you have to have,

00:30:16.463 --> 00:30:19.463
um, at least in, in my case, you just have to have like a certain love of what

00:30:19.463 --> 00:30:24.343
you do, um, to be kind of willing to do that. Um, um.

00:30:25.077 --> 00:30:28.517
But with that, I think there, there are many rewards you can give and you can,

00:30:28.517 --> 00:30:31.977
you can make money. Like, I mean, there's, there's definitely a business model for it.

00:30:32.157 --> 00:30:34.837
You just got to go build it and you got to be willing to kind of like fight

00:30:34.837 --> 00:30:38.817
literally and metaphorically to, to, to make that a success.

00:30:38.937 --> 00:30:45.417
But, um, as I indicated earlier about like, I say that because like with my

00:30:45.417 --> 00:30:51.817
career choice to like be ultimately my business model is on being a coach, right?

00:30:51.817 --> 00:30:54.417
Like instructing people and that's what they pay me for.

00:30:55.077 --> 00:30:58.117
To teach them this martial art and I've been paid to compete

00:30:58.117 --> 00:31:01.097
and other stuff like that but like the bulk of the of the business model

00:31:01.097 --> 00:31:04.737
is around being an instructor um now the

00:31:04.737 --> 00:31:07.577
funny thing about that in my opinion is like however you

00:31:07.577 --> 00:31:10.517
want to frame it and for the purposes of what we talked about earlier where

00:31:10.517 --> 00:31:14.617
like I am the head coach um therefore

00:31:14.617 --> 00:31:17.357
my continued progression to me points to

00:31:17.357 --> 00:31:20.917
going out and competing too because that's where I'm gonna you know

00:31:20.917 --> 00:31:24.117
I'll cross train I'll absorb lots of knowledge with other academies

00:31:24.117 --> 00:31:27.517
but like day in day out when i'm on the mat barring instances

00:31:27.517 --> 00:31:30.597
where i'll go to someone else's class and i get to take a chance and listen to another coach

00:31:30.597 --> 00:31:33.197
but like even then if it's my jam i'm still kind of

00:31:33.197 --> 00:31:35.897
paying attention to everything i'm watching i'm making kind of keep an eye on that

00:31:35.897 --> 00:31:38.577
coach yeah you know but it's like you can't really turn that off

00:31:38.577 --> 00:31:41.417
it's you're still thinking about everyone else even if

00:31:41.417 --> 00:31:45.517
you get a slight reprieve from having to completely wearing

00:31:45.517 --> 00:31:48.877
the coach's hat for like that hour yeah you're not allowed to be inherently

00:31:48.877 --> 00:31:52.737
like you i can't be completely selfish yeah you have to you have to kind of

00:31:52.737 --> 00:31:58.197
be um so so with that said like i think like the the true progression for people

00:31:58.197 --> 00:32:01.117
in that position is to go out and compete and i also like we've talked about

00:32:01.117 --> 00:32:03.997
i feel like i have an obligation to the people who pay me.

00:32:05.357 --> 00:32:12.157
Um to extract as much wisdom and knowledge and skill by doing that as possible

00:32:12.157 --> 00:32:16.537
because while yes that's for me it's also for them um and i'll be able to do

00:32:16.537 --> 00:32:19.557
a better job and i think it's it's symbolic in a lot of ways too.

00:32:19.637 --> 00:32:22.177
I think it kind of shows these people that you're willing to put yourself on

00:32:22.177 --> 00:32:24.297
the line to go do this stuff. Um,

00:32:25.338 --> 00:32:31.118
And so I say that to say, like, if that's like, that's my Matt time,

00:32:31.338 --> 00:32:35.978
I feel like I've talked about this on the show before, but in the past,

00:32:36.058 --> 00:32:40.278
like if you, if I labeled all of the, in a hierarchy, like a list format,

00:32:40.638 --> 00:32:45.038
like top down, the goals are like the different roles you'll have in a position

00:32:45.038 --> 00:32:46.958
like mine are linear in nature.

00:32:46.958 --> 00:32:50.178
Um but they're all aligned like

00:32:50.178 --> 00:32:53.438
being a business owner a head

00:32:53.438 --> 00:32:56.898
coach a manager of other coaches i'm

00:32:56.898 --> 00:32:59.698
still a student and a competitor it's like to me it's like i think

00:32:59.698 --> 00:33:02.678
all of that kind of at least at this point in my life kind of points to i just

00:33:02.678 --> 00:33:05.938
continue to go compete to do a better job at all of those things yeah because

00:33:05.938 --> 00:33:13.478
it educates me on what each of those um listed out duties it educates me more

00:33:13.478 --> 00:33:17.998
on what each of those levels or so, dots, bullet points on a sheet,

00:33:19.278 --> 00:33:25.138
need to hear or be briefed on.

00:33:25.258 --> 00:33:28.278
I feel like the knowledge that comes from the competition path,

00:33:28.378 --> 00:33:29.778
it helps at every level there.

00:33:32.378 --> 00:33:36.978
So the behavior patterns lend towards, there's many tasks, but that's the main

00:33:36.978 --> 00:33:41.378
task that fuels everything else. So it's a hard job, but,

00:33:43.568 --> 00:33:47.628
It keeps you like oriented in one direction, which is like, I just got to keep getting better.

00:33:48.048 --> 00:33:50.888
And that makes me better at the other things that I do, which then helps my

00:33:50.888 --> 00:33:52.788
team get better, which then helps my students get better.

00:33:52.888 --> 00:33:57.448
Yeah, the competition isn't the goal. The competition is the means of attaining.

00:33:57.708 --> 00:33:59.108
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

00:33:59.648 --> 00:34:04.188
And it can be a goal. Yeah. But this was a really long- It's not the ultimate goal. Yeah.

00:34:04.968 --> 00:34:09.088
That's a philosophical question, my friend. Yeah, yeah. That is a tough one.

00:34:09.208 --> 00:34:11.388
It steps along the way. Yeah, I mean, I think it goes back to what I was saying,

00:34:11.448 --> 00:34:12.988
I just want to do the best I possibly can.

00:34:12.988 --> 00:34:16.888
And that's a good way for me to judge, because as my skills have increased,

00:34:17.008 --> 00:34:18.528
and this is something that I'm sure you've noticed this too,

00:34:18.608 --> 00:34:24.528
it's like as you get better within your environment, I think the call to,

00:34:24.628 --> 00:34:26.948
for me at least, the call to action, the call to adventure,

00:34:27.208 --> 00:34:29.648
has been to go test that in a different environment.

00:34:29.868 --> 00:34:32.708
I mean a bigger environment, then a bigger environment. And it's like if I continue

00:34:32.708 --> 00:34:37.268
to see success, I got to keep going until I start running to the roadblock.

00:34:37.388 --> 00:34:40.088
And then at that roadblock, I have an obligation to say I got to figure this out.

00:34:40.408 --> 00:34:42.668
I got to try to get better at it.

00:34:43.008 --> 00:34:46.688
Um, cause I believe I can, and if I can, and I learned how to do that,

00:34:46.828 --> 00:34:49.748
well, wouldn't that be something cooler than share with everyone else who I,

00:34:49.968 --> 00:34:52.668
on my team? Yeah. Now you have something to bring back.

00:34:52.828 --> 00:34:55.888
And so like, especially with, with how you've laid that out, right? You have.

00:34:56.676 --> 00:35:00.396
The the business side you have the coaching the

00:35:00.396 --> 00:35:03.396
mentor mentoring i'm gonna say and overseeing like

00:35:03.396 --> 00:35:06.456
the other coaches yeah it's like like the coaching of the coaches yeah it's

00:35:06.456 --> 00:35:09.416
like the you know you have the coach the coach aspect

00:35:09.416 --> 00:35:12.356
so that's the coaching the students you have the mentoring the coaching

00:35:12.356 --> 00:35:15.316
of the other coaches the business aspect and the competitor

00:35:15.316 --> 00:35:18.276
aspect right like yeah and if you to get

00:35:18.276 --> 00:35:21.376
the to become the best at all of those right like

00:35:21.376 --> 00:35:24.156
you're trying to become the best version of scott or

00:35:24.156 --> 00:35:27.056
the best version of mike right in those aspects of things yes

00:35:27.056 --> 00:35:30.656
that you have to continuously battle test

00:35:30.656 --> 00:35:33.396
and try right work on it and

00:35:33.396 --> 00:35:36.236
struggle publicly by the way your peak right like

00:35:36.236 --> 00:35:39.176
it because i i think i think that

00:35:39.176 --> 00:35:41.976
best the best version of

00:35:41.976 --> 00:35:44.796
yourself is a really good ass really good way

00:35:44.796 --> 00:35:48.216
to frame it too because it's not about being like the

00:35:48.216 --> 00:35:51.556
best in the world it would be really cool if that's the best version of myself

00:35:51.556 --> 00:35:56.976
but the best in the world isn't that's not really the goal right like it would

00:35:56.976 --> 00:36:04.936
be a really cool thing to do but like really the i think it's a good way to

00:36:04.936 --> 00:36:06.756
frame it that you're saying there too like,

00:36:08.046 --> 00:36:14.386
being the best that you can be versus like i need to be better than somebody else is a much.

00:36:16.326 --> 00:36:19.146
Uh because that's like an attainable goal right like you know i mean like

00:36:19.146 --> 00:36:22.086
it's that's much it's better measurement well let's

00:36:22.086 --> 00:36:25.146
say it's probably a a more long-term motivating thing

00:36:25.146 --> 00:36:27.946
because it's like how can you can the the good and

00:36:27.946 --> 00:36:30.806
bad thing about that is you're never going to finish it yeah but that's also life right

00:36:30.806 --> 00:36:33.726
like we're always we gotta i think if we stop trying to do that then

00:36:33.726 --> 00:36:36.406
we kind of decay yeah i'm complacent and like and like i said

00:36:36.406 --> 00:36:39.346
and the people around us some philosopher said that i'll

00:36:39.346 --> 00:36:42.266
find out who it's find out because i'd be curious stagnation is death

00:36:42.266 --> 00:36:45.026
right yeah yeah well i think that's true and and

00:36:45.026 --> 00:36:48.326
just one other thing on that too that you mentioned earlier that i'll um

00:36:48.326 --> 00:36:50.966
i'll kind of link with what i was saying too is there's like

00:36:50.966 --> 00:36:54.666
i think the underlying aspect of all that too and you mentioned this earlier

00:36:54.666 --> 00:36:59.326
about leonard sweet fucking leonard sweet dude and ellen hopkins also said something

00:36:59.326 --> 00:37:04.466
like that uh also frederick douglas and me and you said that we have now said

00:37:04.466 --> 00:37:08.706
it frederick douglas uh was probably the one i was inaction is followed by stagnation,

00:37:09.326 --> 00:37:13.266
is followed by pestilence and pestilence is followed by death because that sounds

00:37:13.266 --> 00:37:19.006
cool as shit that sounds like what Yoda said about the dark side and hate leads

00:37:19.006 --> 00:37:24.386
to I've tried to quote him a bunch of times fear leads to hate or hate leads to fear,

00:37:25.206 --> 00:37:30.466
I'll find that one too you were on a train of thought you keep going what I was going to say was.

00:37:32.106 --> 00:37:37.306
Maybe this is like an articulation of why I like doing it is there's like a

00:37:37.306 --> 00:37:40.806
continued problem solving that you mentioned earlier about saying like, all right, well, like,

00:37:41.786 --> 00:37:45.686
you know, I started off just wanting to compete and like kind of get some information there.

00:37:45.806 --> 00:37:48.646
And then I started winning a little bit, but I'm sorry, losing a little bit too. It's kind of like,

00:37:50.122 --> 00:37:54.182
50 60 percent win rate so mostly winning but still losing a lot and i'm like

00:37:54.182 --> 00:37:56.222
well i can do a little bit better than that and then like you get promoted then

00:37:56.222 --> 00:37:58.662
you're like all right well how do i do at this level then you're like okay doing

00:37:58.662 --> 00:38:01.122
pretty good but i can do a little bit better then you push there and you keep

00:38:01.122 --> 00:38:02.582
pushing you keep pushing keep pushing then you're like

00:38:02.882 --> 00:38:05.522
i got third in the world well now i gotta get first in the world well then

00:38:05.522 --> 00:38:08.402
how many times did i get first so you know what i mean like you do these things but really

00:38:08.402 --> 00:38:11.242
that is it's an example for again like in the position that

00:38:11.242 --> 00:38:13.942
i'm in and you you in as well as a coach too like for people who like

00:38:13.942 --> 00:38:17.422
follow your classes and like follow your leadership there's

00:38:17.422 --> 00:38:20.342
like the the demonstration to these folks that

00:38:20.342 --> 00:38:23.302
you're you are trying to improve you're trying to continually solve

00:38:23.302 --> 00:38:26.242
problems because like i said like in the hierarchy of like all the different jobs that

00:38:26.242 --> 00:38:29.002
i have all i'm really doing any given time any given day is

00:38:29.002 --> 00:38:33.162
like just solving lots of problems and making decisions so i think it i think

00:38:33.162 --> 00:38:37.502
it helps with all of those things by the way because i do want to address to

00:38:37.502 --> 00:38:41.342
the root of your actual uh purpose in bringing this up which is like all of

00:38:41.342 --> 00:38:46.442
that said this does then lend towards how i spend my time on the mat.

00:38:48.102 --> 00:38:50.842
Which like you and like a lot of other folks i mean i have like i

00:38:50.842 --> 00:38:53.642
said i'm i'm doing this is probably the the if i

00:38:53.642 --> 00:38:56.282
had like a stack of hats that i wear this would be

00:38:56.282 --> 00:38:59.262
the top hat but every hat underneath it gets the benefit

00:38:59.262 --> 00:39:02.402
of that that's the nature of it i was in that list of things and like a like a

00:39:02.402 --> 00:39:05.742
flagpole order you know top down

00:39:05.742 --> 00:39:08.882
um if the main purpose of the way i spend

00:39:08.882 --> 00:39:11.722
my martial arts training and my training off the mat is

00:39:11.722 --> 00:39:14.722
to prepare me for more better and higher level

00:39:14.722 --> 00:39:17.642
jiu-jitsu performance in a competitive setting which it is

00:39:17.642 --> 00:39:20.602
that does dictate how i train day in

00:39:20.602 --> 00:39:24.202
day out week in week out month in month out yeah which

00:39:24.202 --> 00:39:27.082
informs me and i like that because we've talked

00:39:27.082 --> 00:39:29.962
about this lots of times and hopefully this is maybe a more thorough discussion

00:39:29.962 --> 00:39:37.182
on that thread which when you do that i think it when you have a true um you

00:39:37.182 --> 00:39:40.522
can call it long term or medium term or whatever like you have like a a more

00:39:40.522 --> 00:39:45.622
intentional goal behind the time you spend training on the mat it,

00:39:47.008 --> 00:39:49.468
It informs you a little bit more of how to behave on the mat,

00:39:49.688 --> 00:39:52.188
which I think gives you to what you were mentioning at the very beginning.

00:39:52.348 --> 00:39:55.548
It's like better, just better, perhaps it's outcomes if you want to think of

00:39:55.548 --> 00:39:57.648
it that way or like how you want to use your time on the mat.

00:39:57.728 --> 00:39:59.848
And this requires some discipline because there are definitely days I'm on the

00:39:59.848 --> 00:40:02.908
mat and I feel like I just kind of disexisted. You just showed up.

00:40:03.348 --> 00:40:06.748
And like a lot of this, like you mentioned someone just wants to get a black

00:40:06.748 --> 00:40:11.308
belt. Like for what it's worth, I would say that's a rather simple goal. You can do that.

00:40:11.788 --> 00:40:13.828
Show up on the mat three to five days a week for about 10 years.

00:40:15.308 --> 00:40:18.668
You'll get a black belt. if you're in front of your coach. It doesn't mean it's

00:40:18.668 --> 00:40:21.408
easy, but that's simple. Three to five days a week for about 10 years.

00:40:22.308 --> 00:40:26.708
And you can do things to speed that up. Some goals will be simpler, right?

00:40:27.028 --> 00:40:30.448
Some of them, some whys and some goals will have a simpler way of achieving,

00:40:31.188 --> 00:40:35.528
in which case you just find new goals. Like the goal is temporary.

00:40:35.888 --> 00:40:39.308
That's part of it. That goal is temporary. The goals should change over time.

00:40:39.308 --> 00:40:43.348
The why is really the only permanent part of this, right? Like the why is permanent.

00:40:43.508 --> 00:40:47.028
The motivation will shift. Comes and goes. and drift around and

00:40:47.028 --> 00:40:49.868
hopefully mostly stays mostly stays but sometimes it'll

00:40:49.868 --> 00:40:53.748
be you'll have a new motivation sometimes you have multiple motivations um

00:40:53.748 --> 00:40:56.428
sometimes but all of it you know like

00:40:56.428 --> 00:41:00.028
that as long as you maintain your why you'll find

00:41:00.028 --> 00:41:03.608
those other things and like even if you attain the goal right

00:41:03.608 --> 00:41:06.988
you you reach your goal you get whatever that thing is that's

00:41:06.988 --> 00:41:09.828
the tricky thing with goals find another one you'll find another because you have

00:41:09.828 --> 00:41:12.628
that because now you're the guy who likes hitting goals yeah and like once you

00:41:12.628 --> 00:41:15.648
hit the goal you just want the next goal which is you you still have the why

00:41:15.648 --> 00:41:20.288
as long as the why is constant you'll find those other things that's right um

00:41:20.288 --> 00:41:23.328
because you'll still be hungry dude you're gonna be hungry for that next one

00:41:23.328 --> 00:41:29.708
it's never gonna end for that next one and it's endless um and then you know it's uh it's.

00:41:30.849 --> 00:41:33.809
Similarly similarly to what you were talking about with like you know you get

00:41:33.809 --> 00:41:36.529
that all right my my goal is be the best me that's a

00:41:36.529 --> 00:41:39.269
moving goalpost right um which but

00:41:39.269 --> 00:41:41.909
yeah it you were mentioning so like

00:41:41.909 --> 00:41:45.109
the day-to-day right and if my

00:41:45.109 --> 00:41:51.449
if i'm training for because i have some like goal-wise it kind of is similar

00:41:51.449 --> 00:41:54.289
like i want to be the best version you want to win a higher level higher level

00:41:54.289 --> 00:41:59.409
yeah and so that i can disseminate that information down be better and like

00:41:59.409 --> 00:42:02.849
better perform my, you know, ult my job, right?

00:42:02.989 --> 00:42:07.309
Like as an athlete, as a coach, as, you know, all these different aspects.

00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:09.809
Sorry to step on your toes, but like, I just, this is, maybe it's another,

00:42:09.889 --> 00:42:12.129
it's not just selling jiu-jitsu, it's selling competition in jiu-jitsu,

00:42:12.209 --> 00:42:14.469
which we will do day in, day out. We will do it every time.

00:42:14.709 --> 00:42:18.349
It teaches you so much more about it. You're going to, you'll really learn,

00:42:18.509 --> 00:42:22.289
like, I do think that competing teaches you like, you know, this may be like

00:42:22.289 --> 00:42:25.149
a crude example, but like one competition is, like.

00:42:26.627 --> 00:42:29.927
And if you're paying attention to how it goes and what you learn from it,

00:42:30.107 --> 00:42:32.947
it's like, it's months, if not years of training wisdom.

00:42:33.067 --> 00:42:35.107
If you really do your job to like understand it.

00:42:35.347 --> 00:42:38.647
So it's like you are, you're on this quest to really deeply understand the martial

00:42:38.647 --> 00:42:40.347
art that people are like looking to you to teach them.

00:42:40.547 --> 00:42:46.667
So yeah, it makes you a more aware, smarter professional.

00:42:47.267 --> 00:42:53.167
Yeah. And so, and when you're doing those additional training sessions,

00:42:53.227 --> 00:42:55.967
like when you start it, you know,

00:42:55.967 --> 00:42:58.767
know if I was just showing up and just coaching like I could do

00:42:58.767 --> 00:43:01.967
I could still get better at jujitsu just like teaching someone

00:43:01.967 --> 00:43:05.827
and answering questions and practicing and

00:43:05.827 --> 00:43:09.007
doing all that like within just the training room but when I'm able to go out

00:43:09.007 --> 00:43:15.507
and have my own training sessions with the mindset of I'm doing this to prepare

00:43:15.507 --> 00:43:19.707
for a competition or I'm doing this to get better at jujitsu to prepare for

00:43:19.707 --> 00:43:24.067
this competition so I can then get even better jujitsu so that I can take that

00:43:24.067 --> 00:43:25.067
information, pass it down.

00:43:25.207 --> 00:43:30.127
I find I, the focus shifts to where I'm looking for these things that are making

00:43:30.127 --> 00:43:33.027
me better and I'm honing in on those.

00:43:33.187 --> 00:43:36.847
And then I can take those. And this is where it translates to the other aspects

00:43:36.847 --> 00:43:39.747
of like the, the motivations and the goals, right?

00:43:39.827 --> 00:43:44.207
Where I can now take these things that are, all right, this has made me better at X, Y, or Z.

00:43:44.387 --> 00:43:50.847
I can take this training method or this drill or this game or, Oh, that's right.

00:43:51.027 --> 00:43:54.447
This technique was actually a really good thing. I can take those and I can

00:43:54.447 --> 00:43:58.807
build structure and take those and back to my class and I can use those to coach

00:43:58.807 --> 00:44:02.787
them now attaining the other aspect of the goal, right? So like.

00:44:03.644 --> 00:44:06.584
That comp that's why like competition is part of the pathway not

00:44:06.584 --> 00:44:09.504
like you know if the end goal is to be the best me best coach best

00:44:09.504 --> 00:44:12.224
athlete best you know the best i can be at this

00:44:12.224 --> 00:44:15.144
sport i can use that competition to build those

00:44:15.144 --> 00:44:18.364
that's right things so you know it gives me like direction tangible

00:44:18.364 --> 00:44:21.144
things you can do differently for example like you're right

00:44:21.144 --> 00:44:23.744
and just to give like people listening an example but i know exactly what you

00:44:23.744 --> 00:44:27.384
mean yeah let's use like let's say like we went to a tournament and hey

00:44:27.384 --> 00:44:30.524
this happened to me it worlds yeah um in

00:44:30.524 --> 00:44:34.164
my final my last match in the semis where um i

00:44:34.164 --> 00:44:37.124
had about a minute left and i was in attack position i

00:44:37.124 --> 00:44:39.804
could take this guy's back and i drilled that lots and

00:44:39.804 --> 00:44:43.384
lots and lots of times but i didn't pull it off yes

00:44:43.384 --> 00:44:49.024
i was tired yes i was fatigued um yes i was facing a very good opponent who

00:44:49.024 --> 00:44:53.064
was well basically just had to exist and even if i took his back he was i needed

00:44:53.064 --> 00:44:55.604
to probably submit him as well i don't remember what the points were exactly

00:44:55.604 --> 00:45:00.064
you needed more than just the back take i think you need like it was either six or eight.

00:45:00.284 --> 00:45:03.544
It was more than four. Let's just say that. Yeah. Right. So,

00:45:03.604 --> 00:45:06.284
but my purpose of saying that is like, he just had like 45 seconds to survive.

00:45:06.484 --> 00:45:09.544
Like I had my work cut out for me, but this is a position I've been in.

00:45:10.024 --> 00:45:15.844
Um, I failed at doing that. So, Hey, takeaways could be, there's so many things

00:45:15.844 --> 00:45:16.564
you could take away from something.

00:45:16.664 --> 00:45:18.984
This is like a kind of like a thought exercise for people listening of like

00:45:18.984 --> 00:45:21.084
how we use competition to inform

00:45:21.084 --> 00:45:25.224
the day to day littlest of things like structuring a practice. Yeah.

00:45:25.584 --> 00:45:29.044
How can I drill a back take differently where I have like 45 seconds,

00:45:29.084 --> 00:45:30.764
not just take the guys back, but also choke them out.

00:45:31.064 --> 00:45:34.484
Like that's a little bit, so then that could tell me like, I can manufacture

00:45:34.484 --> 00:45:39.444
a drilling and practice environment that puts me in a position to be better at executing.

00:45:40.419 --> 00:45:43.259
And so then when me and you go to coach a class and if that's the subject matter

00:45:43.259 --> 00:45:47.199
of the class, well, guys, we've done lots of backmount drills in the past,

00:45:47.319 --> 00:45:50.399
but like, turns out the backmount drills that we've been doing, I've been doing this.

00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:55.599
We have to take account for what we do right or wrong from our tournaments and

00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.119
it's public and everyone sees it. That just comes with the job.

00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.539
So we wear our failures on our sleeve. It makes us better.

00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.419
Hey, we, we, maybe we weren't doing this correctly enough.

00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:09.579
So we're going to audit that. So the same thing, this is why I've used a lot

00:46:09.579 --> 00:46:13.779
of times in my teaching for the last like 21 years, like an arm triangle.

00:46:13.959 --> 00:46:15.179
But the way I've taught arm triangles

00:46:15.179 --> 00:46:19.579
now, the way I teach them now is way different than it was 15 years ago.

00:46:19.759 --> 00:46:24.859
It's the same move, same anatomy of a human being's shoulder and arm and neck.

00:46:26.099 --> 00:46:28.719
The way I teach it is different because I've learned more and more about it.

00:46:29.139 --> 00:46:34.839
And so with backbound in this example, like, I mean, we're going to go back

00:46:34.839 --> 00:46:36.959
to something we've done, but we're going to do it better now because we're more

00:46:36.959 --> 00:46:38.599
informed of like what needs to be done.

00:46:38.839 --> 00:46:40.819
Maybe the circumstances can be played around with a little bit,

00:46:40.899 --> 00:46:44.899
but like, hey, let's replicate this circumstance because I went and figured out that I fucked it up.

00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.279
Quick sidebar, we were playing that game at the gym this week.

00:46:49.419 --> 00:46:52.639
There you go, man. Front headlock. Yeah, yeah. One minute score as many points

00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.399
as you can. So there you go. We literally played it.

00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.239
You're doing it. Yeah, we literally played the game from what you had.

00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.919
We're putting ourselves right in the situation and be like, let's work on it, guys.

00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:04.659
And like if you're not doing, if like you can do jiu-jitsu without these.

00:47:07.177 --> 00:47:13.717
Specific um scenarios that have like in our cases very very vivid use cases

00:47:13.717 --> 00:47:17.517
yeah um and that's fine too and you still get better but you know i maybe we

00:47:17.517 --> 00:47:21.117
interview a student sometime and ask them how much they value like the you know

00:47:21.117 --> 00:47:24.417
a coach telling them like hey man i can tell you exactly why this matters here's

00:47:24.417 --> 00:47:26.837
why because you might need to do this just like i needed to do this one day

00:47:27.257 --> 00:47:32.037
i think people respond to that i think people appreciate that um and it may

00:47:32.037 --> 00:47:34.957
be selfishly for us it's like a good way for us to go in and solve our problems

00:47:34.957 --> 00:47:39.457
yeah well yeah i'll make everyone solve our problems um it's definitely make

00:47:39.457 --> 00:47:43.237
everyone so everyone solved this we're gonna we're gonna solve my problems together

00:47:43.237 --> 00:47:47.237
that's what we do um yeah that happens a lot more um.

00:47:48.457 --> 00:47:51.297
So so yeah i mean so that's kind of an example right

00:47:51.297 --> 00:47:54.257
for how we take our why our

00:47:54.257 --> 00:47:57.217
convert that like a motivation and

00:47:57.217 --> 00:47:59.937
a goal and then it educates us and

00:47:59.937 --> 00:48:02.917
how we yeah how we work how we

00:48:02.917 --> 00:48:05.737
use that to create like a pathway to work towards this goal

00:48:05.737 --> 00:48:09.317
um and in in

00:48:09.317 --> 00:48:12.937
this case it it kind of like spreads outwards

00:48:12.937 --> 00:48:17.617
because we're using that to hopefully help our students reach their goals um

00:48:17.617 --> 00:48:27.857
and And that also allows us to direct our training and stay focused on the task

00:48:27.857 --> 00:48:30.557
at hand in this case, you know, like the goal, the task at hand.

00:48:30.777 --> 00:48:36.597
Um, and so let's bring this back to like how the, how this can work for the

00:48:36.597 --> 00:48:38.637
listener. Right. So, um.

00:48:39.726 --> 00:48:44.486
You know we'll give you kind of an exercise for this in which like you can so

00:48:44.486 --> 00:48:47.986
you we've already talked about finding why you do this you can look back at

00:48:47.986 --> 00:48:53.186
what caused you to maybe even look at why you initially even looked at the jiu-jitsu

00:48:53.186 --> 00:48:58.526
gym um then why you because why you looked at it might be,

00:48:59.086 --> 00:49:02.046
a better instance than why you signed up right

00:49:02.046 --> 00:49:04.706
like why you signed up may be that that is the

00:49:04.706 --> 00:49:07.686
place that it's right next to my house is closest to

00:49:07.686 --> 00:49:10.486
your house or you know hey it felt like this is

00:49:10.486 --> 00:49:13.506
the place that's going to fulfill my reason for

00:49:13.506 --> 00:49:16.706
wanting to do jiu-jitsu too so um now that

00:49:16.706 --> 00:49:19.886
i've thought about it that might be a better way to frame that um

00:49:19.886 --> 00:49:25.626
why did you seek out jiu-jitsu in the first place and then probably also why

00:49:25.626 --> 00:49:30.646
you fell in love with it because why you picked why you signed up might be more

00:49:30.646 --> 00:49:33.906
on the other end of it might be a little more practical that might be more practical

00:49:33.906 --> 00:49:38.406
or it might be that hey um they gave me a great deal gave me a great deal or.

00:49:39.226 --> 00:49:43.186
You just felt like that was the place that was going to help you like

00:49:43.186 --> 00:49:46.066
a little more than the money but yeah the why too you

00:49:46.066 --> 00:49:48.946
know yeah um that might feed the why

00:49:48.946 --> 00:49:52.026
rather than be the why uh but so

00:49:52.026 --> 00:49:55.566
you know let's look back at that let's find and

00:49:55.566 --> 00:49:58.526
center in on what that why is which

00:49:58.526 --> 00:50:01.306
we've already done um and then

00:50:01.306 --> 00:50:04.066
we'll take that why we'll convert it into

00:50:04.066 --> 00:50:06.926
a goal and use that goal and like

00:50:06.926 --> 00:50:13.526
that's our motivation like that conversion is the motivation um and then we

00:50:13.526 --> 00:50:19.806
start looking at all right well how do i achieve the goal in our case are the

00:50:19.806 --> 00:50:25.726
the achieving the goal was well we're going to go.

00:50:28.248 --> 00:50:33.328
The training for that and train for competition, compete, reevaluate,

00:50:33.568 --> 00:50:35.688
train for competition, compete, reevaluate.

00:50:35.828 --> 00:50:39.468
And that helps us reach that ultimate goal of getting better and better and

00:50:39.468 --> 00:50:43.188
becoming better at those, those aspects and those pillars that we want to get

00:50:43.188 --> 00:50:49.328
better at for someone, uh, someone who has different goals.

00:50:49.488 --> 00:50:52.848
Maybe that's not, it's going to be different, right?

00:50:52.948 --> 00:50:56.648
And so if your goal is, and we talked about the black belt, right?

00:50:56.728 --> 00:51:01.268
If your goal is to achieve your current goals to achieve black belt then yeah

00:51:01.268 --> 00:51:05.868
let's let's look at those things right you got to continuously show up that's

00:51:05.868 --> 00:51:14.208
step one so consistency so we're going to consistently show up to to the training we're going to uh,

00:51:15.825 --> 00:51:18.705
attain knowledge so so we're

00:51:18.705 --> 00:51:21.605
gonna need purpose for why we're training so we're gonna use

00:51:21.605 --> 00:51:25.465
the why and the goal to train like

00:51:25.465 --> 00:51:29.405
actually direct and be purposeful in what we're learning so that we're not just

00:51:29.405 --> 00:51:35.645
like showing you're not just showing up to class that's part of it but we also

00:51:35.645 --> 00:51:42.825
need to be purposeful and like actively attaining knowledge and getting better um and then.

00:51:44.885 --> 00:51:47.965
Showcasing that we're better and you know just continue you

00:51:47.965 --> 00:51:50.785
know so doesn't mean you have to compete to get black

00:51:50.785 --> 00:51:55.025
belt not every gym does that some some might they might have like to see you

00:51:55.025 --> 00:51:59.365
compete once maybe once at a belt who knows but you know some places want you

00:51:59.365 --> 00:52:02.685
to coach a little bit if you're gonna get a black belt yeah so start disseminating

00:52:02.685 --> 00:52:06.565
knowledge another is you're gonna have to find out what your coach looks for

00:52:06.565 --> 00:52:09.785
in a black belt yeah yeah um so you know there's,

00:52:10.345 --> 00:52:15.365
you'll have to figure out all of these things for yourself in some cases but like that's where,

00:52:16.005 --> 00:52:18.785
inferring with your coach because your coach will if you tell them why you're

00:52:18.785 --> 00:52:24.225
doing jiu-jitsu that will also they'll like that they'll like that and it'll

00:52:24.225 --> 00:52:28.725
actually help them direct the path that they have because belts are subjective

00:52:28.725 --> 00:52:34.005
right like there's not like this is a this is what you need to do blue be blue

00:52:34.005 --> 00:52:37.105
belt this is what you need to do like there's not like a uniform thing,

00:52:37.565 --> 00:52:42.645
and so if you tell them why and they can kind of see what your journey is like

00:52:42.645 --> 00:52:47.225
if you tell them why you're doing jiu-jitsu and what your goals are they can

00:52:47.225 --> 00:52:53.605
almost set that path for you of like well here is how we achieve that and um.

00:52:54.976 --> 00:52:58.196
Then they can start helping you to direct your training and

00:52:58.196 --> 00:53:01.476
uh in like my case

00:53:01.476 --> 00:53:04.676
i have guys that i know that want to

00:53:04.676 --> 00:53:07.356
compete so i and i have

00:53:07.356 --> 00:53:10.156
guys i know that just want to show up and train right they

00:53:10.156 --> 00:53:12.976
want to do they want to show up and do jiu-jitsu there's guys that

00:53:12.976 --> 00:53:15.796
want to show up and just like learn so they don't necessarily

00:53:15.796 --> 00:53:18.736
they're not super worried about like applying it in

00:53:18.736 --> 00:53:22.236
any sense um there's guys that have that

00:53:22.236 --> 00:53:25.236
want to do jujitsu and they might have different applications they

00:53:25.236 --> 00:53:29.056
have in mind some just want to be able to do it in the gym um some

00:53:29.056 --> 00:53:32.056
might want to be able to have something that's more applicable

00:53:32.056 --> 00:53:34.776
for self-defense right or whatever and so

00:53:34.776 --> 00:53:37.956
you can almost for each individual person

00:53:37.956 --> 00:53:41.176
you might have like your blanket framework that

00:53:41.176 --> 00:53:44.376
you or blanket framing for the entire class

00:53:44.376 --> 00:53:47.616
and if some if i know what someone's

00:53:47.616 --> 00:53:50.516
goals are i can then once when

00:53:50.516 --> 00:53:53.336
we break out go to that person like all right well like

00:53:53.336 --> 00:53:56.456
your goal is this so you.

00:53:56.456 --> 00:54:00.216
Know think of it this way or you know try

00:54:00.216 --> 00:54:04.016
to if your goal is competition i might

00:54:04.016 --> 00:54:06.756
say hey like if we're doing escape drills i need you

00:54:06.756 --> 00:54:11.176
to escape to a position where you can now be on offense or you can start to

00:54:11.176 --> 00:54:15.676
look to score um whereas if someone is worried about self-defense like hey let's

00:54:15.676 --> 00:54:19.296
just mitigate damage right let's escape to a position where we're not going

00:54:19.296 --> 00:54:24.076
to get hurt like it's your your path your direction for training changes based

00:54:24.076 --> 00:54:25.576
on what your goals are right like.

00:54:26.636 --> 00:54:29.556
You know if you're worried about self-defense you're not worried about points

00:54:29.556 --> 00:54:34.296
so we're going to change your training methodology to be focused away from those

00:54:34.296 --> 00:54:40.056
things um or well less focused on scoring or whatever, right? So, uh,

00:54:41.716 --> 00:54:46.996
So, yeah, I mean, that's kind of a way to create that, like, path and direction.

00:54:47.776 --> 00:54:53.756
You can all be in the room doing the same things, but done within the framework

00:54:53.756 --> 00:54:57.836
of what you individually want to achieve, is what you're saying. Yeah.

00:54:59.556 --> 00:55:03.076
Well, I guess, like, that, you know, that helps you get out of, if you know...

00:55:04.546 --> 00:55:09.866
Know why what your goal is you can get out of like just doing the the boilerplate

00:55:09.866 --> 00:55:17.366
training session right like it will make you get more from the training session right yeah i mean.

00:55:19.286 --> 00:55:24.746
Thinking about these questions for the individual listening it um i think it

00:55:24.746 --> 00:55:28.946
like to your point like you've you've got your why and you've you've got some

00:55:28.946 --> 00:55:32.246
motivation because of your why and then you You have like a tangible goal,

00:55:33.226 --> 00:55:35.206
a semi-tangible goal associated with it.

00:55:36.746 --> 00:55:39.346
It makes you feel like you have a little more purpose behind the time you spend

00:55:39.346 --> 00:55:40.866
on the mat. So it's a little less aimless.

00:55:41.066 --> 00:55:44.266
It's a little less like just going through the motions. And it's a little more

00:55:44.266 --> 00:55:49.966
directed at, you know, why are you doing this? What do we want to achieve out of this?

00:55:50.446 --> 00:55:54.086
You know, interestingly, like what is jiu-jitsu?

00:55:54.246 --> 00:55:59.366
Jiu-jitsu is just the game. It's a martial art focused on controlling and submitting opponents.

00:56:00.626 --> 00:56:03.386
That's it yeah controlling and

00:56:03.386 --> 00:56:06.146
submitting opponents that's the purpose of jiu-jitsu is to be able to

00:56:06.146 --> 00:56:09.626
control them so you can tap them out um and

00:56:09.626 --> 00:56:12.986
when you go and compete that's the good thing about the competition is that's

00:56:12.986 --> 00:56:16.406
it's a game of doing that as best you possibly can against really good competitors

00:56:16.406 --> 00:56:19.506
who are trying to do that to you too so back to what we're saying about like

00:56:19.506 --> 00:56:23.406
coaches who have that competitive awareness um and i say that because i think

00:56:23.406 --> 00:56:26.286
that just means you have to be able to understand that the purpose of the martial

00:56:26.286 --> 00:56:28.186
art in a more difficult setting.

00:56:28.706 --> 00:56:31.426
So if you understand that, and if you've kind of gained that wisdom from competing,

00:56:31.646 --> 00:56:34.726
when you go back and if you have another competitor, well, you can explain that to them.

00:56:35.086 --> 00:56:38.026
At the end of the day, you've got to control to submit this guy. Yes, that's hard to do.

00:56:38.306 --> 00:56:39.986
That's why we have these drills. We're going to practice it.

00:56:40.126 --> 00:56:42.726
But to the guy who's like trying to do this for self-defense,

00:56:43.086 --> 00:56:46.266
you can attach that same, because that's just the purpose of the martial arts.

00:56:46.906 --> 00:56:50.906
Self-defense comes from you getting better at controlling and being able to

00:56:50.906 --> 00:56:54.366
submit the opponent. Maybe you don't care as much about submitting the opponent if you just want to,

00:56:55.625 --> 00:56:58.665
apply self-defense maybe just in a nasty situation in

00:56:58.665 --> 00:57:01.425
life you just want like you had a like you mentioned in the last episode the guy

00:57:01.425 --> 00:57:04.305
hold the guy down well if you can if you

00:57:04.305 --> 00:57:07.505
can control and submit the opponent well then that holding them down becomes

00:57:07.505 --> 00:57:10.325
easy because yeah the control part's done you got the control maybe you just

00:57:10.325 --> 00:57:13.005
want to use the control part but you should also understand the submission because

00:57:13.005 --> 00:57:16.545
the better you get submissions also it just means your control is that good

00:57:16.545 --> 00:57:21.585
yeah so just just a way of your path of doing this in a competitive setting,

00:57:22.105 --> 00:57:25.645
at the most difficult level of the martial art controlling and submitting,

00:57:26.605 --> 00:57:28.325
makes you better at helping these other.

00:57:29.625 --> 00:57:34.165
Perhaps not as intense versions of your goal, but still the same goal, do their job.

00:57:34.285 --> 00:57:38.025
And you can go in and frame a practice around stuff that helps the competitor,

00:57:38.845 --> 00:57:42.725
the self-defense guy, the brand new person doesn't have any idea what they want to do just yet.

00:57:42.785 --> 00:57:45.665
They're all going to still get the same thing from the same practice that you've

00:57:45.665 --> 00:57:48.885
engineered because of the work you've done oriented towards your competition.

00:57:49.225 --> 00:57:52.525
Yeah, the lessons you've learned from your competition that informs

00:57:52.525 --> 00:57:55.305
you on how to make a better practice because it'll

00:57:55.305 --> 00:57:59.205
teach you you're like yo i know that i need a better practice because i fudged

00:57:59.205 --> 00:58:01.985
up that one thing six months ago or whatever and like i'm using

00:58:01.985 --> 00:58:05.265
that knowledge to make a better drill that makes everyone better at controlling

00:58:05.265 --> 00:58:08.685
and submitting including myself yeah not all these guys are going to go compete

00:58:08.685 --> 00:58:13.705
but if they can control and submit a competitor in my practice you bet your

00:58:13.705 --> 00:58:17.065
ass they can control and submit some some bum they need to hold down until the

00:58:17.065 --> 00:58:19.805
cops arrive yeah the the guy in the Walmart parking lot. Yeah, exactly.

00:58:20.785 --> 00:58:24.465
Yeah, that's the beauty of it. It's like, it's difficult to do and figure out,

00:58:24.545 --> 00:58:26.365
but like, you just got to think about these things, but it really does kind

00:58:26.365 --> 00:58:28.785
of come down to the lowest common denominator, which is what is Jiu-Jitsu?

00:58:28.925 --> 00:58:31.645
Why are we doing it? And the reason why we compete is because we want to get

00:58:31.645 --> 00:58:36.165
the deepest level of understanding we possibly can out of it to do our jobs

00:58:36.165 --> 00:58:39.465
as best we possibly can for as many people with diverse needs as possible.

00:58:39.645 --> 00:58:44.405
Oh, yeah. And as the students in the class too, like.

00:58:45.930 --> 00:58:50.670
And just in general, like if you have, if you have like the why and the goal,

00:58:50.890 --> 00:58:53.490
you can create like measurements of success, right?

00:58:53.610 --> 00:58:58.870
It's easier to tell because we were talking about on, um, on the episode about

00:58:58.870 --> 00:59:02.070
the, about unsticking your progress, right?

00:59:02.210 --> 00:59:09.750
Like if you know you're, you'll also be less likely to get stuck if you know

00:59:09.750 --> 00:59:12.630
how to measure your progress, right?

00:59:12.730 --> 00:59:15.470
Like, am I getting less stuck less often? Like if you know what the goal is

00:59:15.470 --> 00:59:18.590
and you know why you're doing it, then it's going to be easier to like measure

00:59:18.590 --> 00:59:22.030
it because you know why and like what the goal is.

00:59:22.070 --> 00:59:25.850
And so you can, it's easier to see that progression because you'll,

00:59:25.850 --> 00:59:27.190
you'll see the little tick marks.

00:59:27.310 --> 00:59:30.090
And part of that is like our job as coaches when we do what we're describing

00:59:30.090 --> 00:59:32.710
here and taking that practice with that group of people and saying,

00:59:32.850 --> 00:59:36.370
hey, everyone, we're going to play this situational drill a game.

00:59:37.405 --> 00:59:41.265
Whatever the cla i think it's a good games with it but like nonetheless like um

00:59:41.265 --> 00:59:44.045
you tell them this is how we're going to play this game like i want like

00:59:44.045 --> 00:59:48.045
the way you'll judge your performance is like are you okay we're

00:59:48.045 --> 00:59:51.485
going to do this drill 10 times today the very beginning you might find that

00:59:51.485 --> 00:59:56.425
like maybe the drills get out of side control bottom side control um it might

00:59:56.425 --> 00:59:59.125
start off really shitty you might find that you're not getting out of side control

00:59:59.125 --> 01:00:02.525
at all but like by the 10th round you might be tired maybe by like 6th or 7th

01:00:02.525 --> 01:00:04.445
round like you should be trying to get out of side you

01:00:04.465 --> 01:00:06.285
should be able to get out of sight control a little bit more quickly.

01:00:06.625 --> 01:00:07.545
Yeah. With less thinking.

01:00:07.945 --> 01:00:10.985
And that's a tangible thing that, like you said, you can go to that person and

01:00:10.985 --> 01:00:13.505
say, can you measure success? Well, how did you do?

01:00:13.805 --> 01:00:16.605
Yeah. And if they're still having a problem, well, let's keep figuring out the

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problem. But that gives them a specific thing to look towards.

01:00:19.465 --> 01:00:22.805
Yeah, exactly. And, you know, in that case, it's like the micro goals that we've

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talked about on prior episodes. Right, right.

01:00:25.185 --> 01:00:27.885
And that keeps the training fresh and fun and, like, gives you,

01:00:27.985 --> 01:00:33.485
like, a little piece of the broader puzzle that gets you closer to the mastery

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that you mentioned. Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, and you just keep building upon it, and you keep stacking those things up.

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And lo and behold, you do that for 10 years, you get your black belt.

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You get your black belt, and there you go. You teach a few white belts along

01:00:45.165 --> 01:00:48.245
the way how to do it, show the coach that you care about everyone else, not just yourself.

01:00:48.425 --> 01:00:51.425
And then now you've achieved goal one. Now you're going to pivot.

01:00:51.445 --> 01:00:52.985
You'll have a new goal. You create a new goal.

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And then you're going to have to start measuring your success differently.

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But that's life, and that's the fun thing. That's how it is. Yeah, we evolve, man.

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And, like, hopefully you're not the kind of guy who just, like,

01:01:01.765 --> 01:01:06.025
you hit one goal, and then you're done. And you know what? I don't want to besmirch people with.

01:01:07.040 --> 01:01:09.800
Fewer ambitions but some people they might do that like

01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:12.640
they might not give up that like i did it that's more power

01:01:12.640 --> 01:01:15.480
to go more power to like and then now you're like knack and

01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:18.380
you're on your side quests do he's got like 50 other

01:01:18.380 --> 01:01:21.040
competitive goals now you have a bunch of different martial arts you're trying

01:01:21.040 --> 01:01:25.140
to master one wasn't enough yeah and now he's trying to be a master and all

01:01:25.140 --> 01:01:29.400
of them all yeah yeah i mean that's that's the case of a man who's continuing

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to do better and better doing the best he's definitely taking that i want to

01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:35.500
be the best i possibly can be to a high level.

01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:37.900
That's why he's such a good role model for our community because,

01:01:38.120 --> 01:01:40.980
yeah, winning a world championship since jiu-jitsu wasn't enough.

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He's like, I got to do it in three sports.

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Now I need to do it in three sports all within one calendar year.

01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:45.620
But that's a good example of a guy.

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Like, I mean, his accomplishments, I mean, you got a stack of medals on the

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wall in here, man. Like, one wasn't enough for you. No.

01:01:51.820 --> 01:01:54.720
No, like, it's like... I'll need more walls. It'll never be enough.

01:01:54.740 --> 01:01:56.720
I'm into that. Yeah, but that's a cool example.

01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.340
It's like, these are the type of dudes you want to be around.

01:01:59.340 --> 01:02:02.720
You want to be around the people who just continue to keep pushing it.

01:02:03.340 --> 01:02:07.000
Yeah cause life is a series of games,

01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:12.340
and like the games in quotes like can be martial arts can be just part of it

01:02:12.340 --> 01:02:17.560
being a good dad it's not a game I mean I already I have a not on the wall I

01:02:17.560 --> 01:02:21.780
have a stack of medals from my brewing career too it's what I need.

01:02:23.220 --> 01:02:27.160
It's what I have to have the problem solve of quests that we talked about be

01:02:27.160 --> 01:02:30.760
around people who just like constantly want to get better at shit dude that's,

01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:37.220
and just do that in life we'll do we'll do just a general episode on just competition

01:02:37.220 --> 01:02:41.500
in general not specific like obviously jiu-jitsu will be part of it but like

01:02:41.500 --> 01:02:44.540
how could it not be we'll add because like there's it's,

01:02:45.489 --> 01:02:49.609
i i just i'm learning like a million things about myself just as a.

01:02:51.369 --> 01:02:58.289
Maybe we'll have john on to like psychoanalyze as we talk um but like i'll go deeper with that

01:02:58.669 --> 01:03:05.529
stack of metals in there from brewing telling your story now exact same reason

01:03:05.529 --> 01:03:10.709
and like exactly yeah it's dude we'll do it we'll do the pair we'll do the parallels

01:03:10.709 --> 01:03:13.729
and all of that on like a computer like competition.

01:03:13.969 --> 01:03:18.809
Because we, one of the topics we have in like our topic list is why compete.

01:03:19.269 --> 01:03:24.729
So, I mean, every episode is why you should compete if you guys haven't figured that out yet.

01:03:24.889 --> 01:03:28.269
It's a quest, man. It's like, yeah, I think the Greeks called it arete, dude.

01:03:28.369 --> 01:03:31.049
It's like your personal virtue, man. You have to like, you know,

01:03:31.189 --> 01:03:33.229
keep pushing it, dude, in life. Yeah, but.

01:03:33.629 --> 01:03:36.389
It's good for you. It's good for the community. It's good for your kids.

01:03:36.489 --> 01:03:38.409
It's good for your wives. It's good for everything. It's good for everybody.

01:03:38.529 --> 01:03:41.029
Michael getting better at everything is good for everyone.

01:03:41.409 --> 01:03:44.689
It benefits everyone for tons of different reasons.

01:03:46.249 --> 01:03:50.049
That's right, man. And so it's good. But, you know, it's funny you mentioned

01:03:50.049 --> 01:03:52.349
that, but there's something valid about that that I think is really good for

01:03:52.349 --> 01:03:54.529
this episode too, which is like what you said about how you're like,

01:03:54.589 --> 01:03:57.249
this has taught me a lot about myself. Jiu-Jitsu does that. Yeah.

01:03:57.689 --> 01:04:04.369
What teaches you, like, we've joked about how it's like we want to feel things. Like, it's true, man.

01:04:04.509 --> 01:04:08.309
Like this stuff, like it pulls deep from within you, man, to like go and continually

01:04:08.309 --> 01:04:11.329
put your sack on the line to get those fucking medals and get beat up on TV.

01:04:11.969 --> 01:04:15.949
You know, like, or ideally dish some fucking beatings on TV,

01:04:16.169 --> 01:04:20.749
right? If you have the right, like, like, reason for doing it,

01:04:20.769 --> 01:04:24.169
too, then, like, you're continuing, like, you don't mind that.

01:04:24.309 --> 01:04:25.329
Right, you know what I mean? Of course.

01:04:25.529 --> 01:04:29.609
There's people, there's, this is, it's okay, it's the end of the episode.

01:04:30.029 --> 01:04:34.669
We'll do it. It's the end of the episode. We can dish however much we want. But so, like.

01:04:35.902 --> 01:04:42.702
There's people that don't think they get value out of a competition if they

01:04:42.702 --> 01:04:48.882
don't have like a million matches in that one competition, which is fine.

01:04:48.942 --> 01:04:50.482
I get it. Money's worth, whatever.

01:04:50.642 --> 01:04:56.902
But I think, I mean, one match, even if it's $150 for that one match,

01:04:57.942 --> 01:05:05.042
is worth so much more than $150 a month at a gym.

01:05:05.222 --> 01:05:07.942
I agree. I mean, obviously, like, you need both things, but,

01:05:08.062 --> 01:05:13.882
like, you need that $150 a month gym membership to make that.

01:05:13.882 --> 01:05:16.262
To put yourself in a position to. To make it worth it.

01:05:16.462 --> 01:05:20.722
Like, if you're just doing the competition, you don't have the gym part.

01:05:20.942 --> 01:05:25.502
It doesn't help. Well, that's what we go back to. Maybe in some other parts of it.

01:05:25.742 --> 01:05:27.182
I know what you're saying. It goes back to what we talked about with,

01:05:27.202 --> 01:05:29.842
like, investing in this sport because you know the value you're going to get

01:05:29.842 --> 01:05:33.142
out of it. Yeah, and if you don't find value in the competition,

01:05:33.382 --> 01:05:35.542
then that doesn't help you achieve.

01:05:35.662 --> 01:05:38.482
Yeah, then don't do it. This isn't the right thing for you. It's just not helping

01:05:38.482 --> 01:05:43.342
you achieve your purpose for doing jiu-jitsu. That's what that means, and that's fine.

01:05:43.762 --> 01:05:47.742
If you don't find value in competition, it means that it's not helping you achieve

01:05:47.742 --> 01:05:51.342
your goals within the sport. And if it's not helping you achieve your goals in the sport, then.

01:05:51.582 --> 01:05:54.482
Just think about what your goals within the sport are. Then that thing isn't.

01:05:54.642 --> 01:05:56.642
It's not for you. It's not for you. That's fine.

01:05:56.862 --> 01:05:59.582
The sport can still be for you, but obviously competition is not.

01:05:59.582 --> 01:06:03.022
On helping you achieve your goal. That's perfectly fine. Um.

01:06:04.142 --> 01:06:10.102
And I don't know, any of my guys who are listening, I know I push competition

01:06:10.102 --> 01:06:12.742
on everyone, but I'm okay with it if you don't compete.

01:06:12.942 --> 01:06:16.682
You're still going to do competition camps when everyone else is competing.

01:06:17.022 --> 01:06:22.402
But you'll still gain the benefit of everyone else competing.

01:06:22.502 --> 01:06:23.802
Some of them, some of the benefits.

01:06:23.922 --> 01:06:26.162
Yeah, you'll still get. Not as many as the competitors, but that's okay.

01:06:26.342 --> 01:06:28.802
And you'll still get the back end. We still appreciate you.

01:06:29.742 --> 01:06:32.482
Yeah, I mean, they're still doing. They're helping. They're helping too.

01:06:32.482 --> 01:06:36.022
It's, and they're still going to get better because we're all going to get better together.

01:06:36.362 --> 01:06:43.822
Um, but yeah, so before this turns into just a rant, um, let's sum it up a little bit here, right?

01:06:43.942 --> 01:06:48.722
So we talked about finding your why, um, we've summed this up a few times every

01:06:48.722 --> 01:06:53.142
time we added the next thing, but, um, you know, your why is the core aspect.

01:06:53.522 --> 01:06:59.902
That's why you started jujitsu. That's why you continue to jujitsu,

01:07:00.102 --> 01:07:03.842
do jujitsu. That's, you know, that, that is the driving force.

01:07:04.002 --> 01:07:05.742
That's the main plot point, right?

01:07:07.522 --> 01:07:15.422
Your goal is whatever it is that you're trying to attain to help you fulfill your why.

01:07:15.602 --> 01:07:21.462
And the motivation is kind of a, the thread that ties those things together.

01:07:22.842 --> 01:07:27.022
Your motivation is what is directly related to both of them.

01:07:27.022 --> 01:07:29.722
And then you just need to

01:07:29.722 --> 01:07:32.862
find a way to use you then use

01:07:32.862 --> 01:07:35.582
those to direct your training so that you are able to

01:07:35.582 --> 01:07:38.482
stay focused and achieve your goals and

01:07:38.482 --> 01:07:41.402
fulfill your why and so if you continuously do

01:07:41.402 --> 01:07:44.142
that then you know you'll you'll be able to keep showing up on

01:07:44.142 --> 01:07:48.062
the mats you'll find you'll get better at jujitsu for sure you'll be able to

01:07:48.062 --> 01:07:54.182
continue progressing um you'll be able to measure your success on the mats and

01:07:54.182 --> 01:07:59.442
you'll just enjoy it more you will enjoy it you'll enjoy it more and you'll

01:07:59.442 --> 01:08:02.622
you'll have you'll find it a lot easier to keep going to um,

01:08:03.728 --> 01:08:09.188
like just from experience we talked about it but from experience like.

01:08:11.208 --> 01:08:15.308
Even on days that you don't feel like going or you feel like i don't really

01:08:15.308 --> 01:08:18.208
i don't know if i want to train today and then you just all you have to do is

01:08:18.208 --> 01:08:19.368
think about like why am i doing this

01:08:19.768 --> 01:08:22.708
and then it makes a lot easier to go and train you just do it you're

01:08:22.708 --> 01:08:25.548
like you know what dude i get it it's i mean it's

01:08:25.548 --> 01:08:28.348
today's a nice day but like you know if it's a shitty day

01:08:28.348 --> 01:08:31.628
out and like you just slogged through i

01:08:31.628 --> 01:08:34.528
mean i trained essentially two days

01:08:34.528 --> 01:08:38.148
two times a day on the mat one time a day in the gym and

01:08:38.148 --> 01:08:44.708
like you just if i just slogged through my first training session and then i

01:08:44.708 --> 01:08:49.428
slogged through the gym session and like i felt like a shitty workout right

01:08:49.428 --> 01:08:56.788
and not because like my battery's low i just like just i don't know whatever reason um Um,

01:08:57.468 --> 01:09:01.448
it makes it a hell of a lot harder to go to the, you know, like you get home

01:09:01.448 --> 01:09:05.228
and you eat and then you're like, Oh, you know, it'd be really easy to not drive

01:09:05.228 --> 01:09:07.428
back to the gym. And it's like, well, um.

01:09:09.130 --> 01:09:12.290
That doesn't make me better. So then I'm like, oh, I gotta go.

01:09:12.550 --> 01:09:18.110
Yeah. You know? So, um, it'll just help you with those moments and it'll just

01:09:18.110 --> 01:09:21.310
help you keep progressing, keep better, keep getting better.

01:09:21.630 --> 01:09:24.810
Um, so, you know, it's just like anything in life, right? If you have a goal

01:09:24.810 --> 01:09:27.170
and you know why you're doing it, it's just gonna be easier to do.

01:09:27.390 --> 01:09:33.750
So, um, and I'll close it out with the Yoda quote since we've talked about it multiple times.

01:09:34.190 --> 01:09:41.550
Uh, cause remember that this also is applicable here. Um, Just this, we'll shoehorn it in.

01:09:42.810 --> 01:09:47.650
Because if it's scary, you should, it means you probably should do it. Don't be scared.

01:09:47.990 --> 01:09:52.950
Because fear is the path to the dark side. Yes. Fear leads to anger.

01:09:53.530 --> 01:09:58.010
Anger leads to hate. And hate leads to suffering.

01:09:58.990 --> 01:10:03.990
So it's kind of the same thing as the Frederick Douglass quote.

01:10:04.090 --> 01:10:09.110
It's very similar. Um, and knowing that Star Wars was a long,

01:10:09.250 --> 01:10:15.190
long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, means that Frederick Douglass plagiarized Yoda. Oh, shit.

01:10:16.710 --> 01:10:21.890
Oh, no. So, uh, so yeah, guys, don't be stagnant. Don't be afraid.

01:10:22.550 --> 01:10:28.050
Uh, know your why. Keep doing jujitsu. Keep getting better. And if you...

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