April 21, 2026

Don’t Try New Shit: Road Rules for Competing, Snacking, and Staying On-Weight (Episode 59)

Don’t Try New Shit: Road Rules for Competing, Snacking, and Staying On-Weight (Episode 59)
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Don’t Try New Shit: Road Rules for Competing, Snacking, and Staying On-Weight (Episode 59)
Don’t Try New Shit: Road Rules for Competing, Snacking, and Staying On-Weight (Episode 59)
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On today's episode we are joined by a few fellow competitors as we were on the road to Chicago. We focused on the topic of managing your weight cut during travel. Using our plan for the ten hour drive we were on. We also get into discussions about the types of food we bring for travel, adhering to the Fighters Drinking Coffee Rules of the Road and Systematically Maintaining the Weight Cut. Hope you enjoy the show and our road rants!

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00:03 - Road Rants on the Way to Chicago

00:47 - Weight Cutting on the Road

01:58 - Rules of the Road

02:47 - Special Guest Introductions

03:13 - The Temptation of Cupcakes

04:24 - Breakfast Food Debates

06:48 - Challenges on the Turnpike

10:03 - Fast Food Strategies

11:16 - Post-Competition Food Wishes

13:12 - Fast Food Nostalgia

15:34 - Managing Weight Before Competition

20:13 - Strategies for Weight Maintenance

26:31 - Women’s Weight Cutting Tactics

34:43 - Individual Weight Management Techniques

43:39 - The Importance of Dietary Timing

46:06 - Fueling for Performance

48:35 - Closing Reflections and Show Support

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On today's episode, we come to you from the road.

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We're doing some road rants and discussing weight cutting while traveling,

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specifically while driving on the road.

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We brought in some special guests who are traveling with us for the IBJJF Chicago Spring Open.

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You'll also hear some new intro music shortly.

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And as always, guys, please support the show. If you would like to do that,

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you can hop onto our Patreon, Patreon.com slash Fighters Drinking Coffee podcast.

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And I hope that.

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You enjoy the show.

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welcome back to fighters drinking coffee today we are

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coming to you from the road we are currently in

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pennsylvania en route to chicago illinois

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the chicago open you're hearing this

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we already completed the chicago open hopefully

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all four of us returning with hardware um so

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this conversation is spurred by

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the fact that we were stopped at a

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sheets uh in maryland at the

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time we were stopped at a sheets and a friend

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of the show kate got pretty big

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eyes for a uh a cupcake that was sitting there right as we walked in the sheets

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so uh we're gonna talk about the we're gonna talk about cutting weight while

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traveling and uh this is especially pressing today since we're on a or I guess

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systematically maintaining your weight cut might be a better way to put it.

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Systematically maintaining your weight.

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At this point, we're already, we've done, the weight cut's done.

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We should already be on weight for IBJJF, but we've got to keep ourselves there.

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And one of those things, and this can be added to the rules of the road,

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while traveling for competition, it is not time to try new shit.

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we were at the Starbucks here at the rest stop and I saw the high protein cold

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foam and I was intrigued I almost did it but I was like this is not the time

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to do this so add that to the rules of

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The road they have a menu item that says high protein cold

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Foam oh yeah high protein cold foam so we

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Talked about that Andrew about like marketing food marketing words that like

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get into your brain that's definitely one of them oh yeah

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No protein is absolutely

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A buzzword

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Right now. High protein. High protein everything. High protein is a big thing.

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And we do have alumni of the show, Andrea Tang in the back of the car tank.

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Author, author and now brown belt

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Hey guys, what's up?

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We have Kate.

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Hello, hello.

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So Kate, you take this. Tell us about what went through your mind.

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Tell us what went through your mind while you were staring down that cupcake.

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It's 7 a.m. I've only had half a cup of coffee.

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Gosh, that cupcake looks really freaking good right now. But one, 7 a.m.

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about to sit in a car for 10 hours is not the time to get a sugar high and probably

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also not the best idea when I'm perfectly on the way for tomorrow and just looking

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Forward to keeping that.

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Well said.

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That is very well said. Well said. Andrea, you also looked at those cupcakes.

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Mike just put it up on the spot.

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Did you look at the cupcakes,

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Too? Wow, called out. Yeah, no, I will always look at a cupcake. I love cupcakes.

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But, yeah, I have a little bit longer to go before Kate before I got away in

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because I'm competing on Sunday. She's competing on Saturday.

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But I, too, am, like, basically just, like, perfectly, perfectly on weight at

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the moment and would rather not, you

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Know, I'd rather not

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Upset the balance at the moment. So playing it very safe with diet in the moment.

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Mike, did you look at the cupcakes? Be honest.

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I don't like cupcakes. So it didn't really bother me. I'm not a

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Big cupcake guy myself. I don't like frosting,

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Dude.

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Do you like cinnamon rolls?

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She says, boo me. I do like cinnamon rolls.

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I like cinnamon rolls too. Cupcakes to me.

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It's the cream cheese icing.

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It's the cream cheese. I agree with that. Cupcakes are not like a breakfast.

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You guys are crazy. cupcakes are not a breakfast food that's a treat treats

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kick in around in my opinion 10 30 a.m I thought you were going to say 10 30 p.m

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No no we do know that you think that sugar before bed I did ask

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David about David's got the honey

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Dude it's true

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The sugar is supposed to fit in your glycogen stores

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I didn't

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Say eat a cupcake before dinner

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Blood sugar maintenance yeah blood sugar maintenance um yeah yeah uh there is

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something dangerous about like being already good with your weight though because like

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You think you can eat a little bit

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More you can eat more than you can you know like you you're a little more loose

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you you're more prone to being looser with your diet let

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Me ask you guys a question too for the group

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But, you know, whatever.

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Mike, if you want to take it.

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You let me know what you can.

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When you guys stop on a road trip and you go to a place like that and you're

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like, I have like four choices.

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Gas station, Starbucks, Burger King. And maybe there's sometimes like a Sparrows or something.

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Do you guys like think to yourself, you're like, I mean, I might as well.

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It's here. I have to eat it.

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I should have some Burger King. Or do you say, no, fuck that.

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I'm not eating Burger King.

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Not today. Not today. But no, it depends where you're driving,

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how many times you've been on this specific stretch of highway.

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Like if I'm on 95 North South, I know there's going to be rest stops every once

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in a while. And I'm looking for the next time I see a Chick-fil-A.

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True that.

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And I can hold out until I see a Chick-fil-A. If I am only looking at McDonald's

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and Burger King for the next 50 miles, I will still probably stick it out.

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Maybe get a coffee to tide me over, but I'm not eating anything that I don't trust for the road.

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I like the strategy.

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Yeah, no, I also kind of have my go-to road trip rest stop foods.

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Like breakfast food is a big one. We chatted about this in the Chicago road

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trip group chat, in fact.

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I'm like, yeah, I'll just go for like something super simple,

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like egg sandwich, a little bit of protein, pretty hard to mess up.

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And generally like a little bit better on the macros than some of the other

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options. So that is generally my strategy.

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One of our challenges...

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although manageable, is that currently we're in Pennsylvania on the turnpike.

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On the P8 turnpike, it's not like 95, like Kate was saying, in Virginia,

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or quite frankly, like a normal interstate in any state, for example,

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where you'll see the street sign or whatever.

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You'll see the advertisements for what food they have you can pull over,

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and then you just kind of go to where you want to go.

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The turnpike has this thing where it's like you pull off, and where you stop

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is you're kind of cordoned off. like this is just there's nowhere else to go you're

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On the turnpike so

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You'll stop there it's like you're cornered with gasoline 7-eleven food starbucks

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and in this case you know burger king whatever it is they have so it's like

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that's what you get or you

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Don't eat yeah i

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Uh well i'm okay with that like i knew that coming in that was going to be the

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reality around breakfast time

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while also trying to strategize the road trip the timing to get into chicago

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to reasonable hour the next time we were able to see like a traditional interstate

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format it's going to be in ohio in like an hour and a half or something to where

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like things start to make sense again

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so like lunch lunch ish but you gotta factor these things in yeah because we're

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actively we're systematically maintaining weight yeah

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While systematically maintaining weight um i i tend to try to like not restrict

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but like i set boundaries right like you have to set like your what your meal

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boundaries are when you're traveling because you know that you're not going

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to always have like the perfect option

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Right but

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If you can like be like all right i'm gonna these are the criteria or like i'm

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willing to go do this eat this thing like andrew was talking about with like

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if it's something that's like

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Eggs and

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In like a cart. Sausage. Some bread. Yeah. You know, like, these are the boundaries.

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Somewhere we'll have this. I'll just go to that place. It's,

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you know, knowing that like, you ask me something and access easily from the highway or whatever.

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And like, fast food breakfast foods are the less corrupted fast food items in my opinion, too.

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Yeah. I mean, breakfast tends to be like...

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Simple or clear.

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A simple option, right? There's only so much you can do. I mean,

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you can run at your McGriddles and shit.

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Really get it. fucked up with a thousand calorie sandwich yeah um and then they

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have like a coma for the rest of the trip um but for the most part like they

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tend to be simple and unadulterated because like there's not a lot of it tends

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To be the lighter of the meals

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So i mean even if the only thing you find is places to do 24-hour breakfast

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oh it's usually a pretty safe bet if we found

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A waffle house that'd be a

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No-brainer i mean waffle house like 14

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Eggs on a

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Plate some bacon Waffle Houses would be perfect.

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When we get to Ohio, they'll have Waffle Houses. Oh, yeah. They'll actually

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have a thing. You guys, you all probably don't know about this,

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being this side of the Appalachian.

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There's this place called Tudor's Biscuit World.

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Is that also from Louisville, Kentucky? It's not.

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Maybe. Lexington, but maybe. I think it's a West Virginia creation. I believe it's a...

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like morgantown or something i mean picket town in

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west virginia where they originated but they're all over west virginia and uh

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they'll have them like it's basically where the appalachian mountains are they

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haven't been like eastern kentucky but as you kind of move towards central kentucky

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start to go away yeah they're fucking good man uh ohio has a lot

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Of options when it comes to fast food because that's where they test it all

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out really yeah like that's where wendy's is from When he's from Columbus, Ohio.

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Yeah, they test everything in Ohio. So like...

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Middle America.

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Yeah, it's like the place that they do like test run all of the...

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I mean, just generally...

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The McRib?

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The Midwest. That's where they like test to pilot everything.

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Like, oh, we're going to try this boot out.

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Come on, guy.

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We'll be behind you. We'll find a nice tow behind, mowers, good land management

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equipment in front of us.

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Yeah, all right. You got to watch yourself around these 18 years.

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Yeah, you do. You got to stay

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The fuck away from these. You do, that's right. Yeah, I mean,

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it's... Ohio's a good spot for some fast food. They got options, dude.

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It's a whole different road on the way back because I think we're all well-separated

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from the competition. You guys want some

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Sparrows on the way back. You can eat whatever you want.

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You can have the... We might drive... There might be a Cinnabon,

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too. Do you want a cinnamon roll, dude?

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Sinappan

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When you get back, yeah, yeah, when we get back, I'll take you up on that.

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All right, if you had to make a wish list for fast food stops on the way home. Oh, true.

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You got to get, like, a little bit of everything because there's the best of.

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Like, best fries, you got to go to McDonald's.

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Best Frosty, you got to go to Wendy's. You get the chocolate Frosty.

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You dip the McDonald's fries in the chocolate Frosty.

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Oh, shit.

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As long as you're not the one driving,

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Which I'm not.

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You can dip and, Michael, dip and serve.

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I will dip and serve for you. Yes, you got to do like your fast food potluck, basically.

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I like that. You go around and like buy from all the different places because you can.

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And usually they're close enough to each other. You can kind of get away with it. Dude, in Ohio

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For sure we'll have mad options. Since we're talking fast food on the way back, I think –

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Best in breed fast food. How about this?

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To relegate it, give it an even more specific lane. Let's say highway exit fast

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food options. I think it is Chick-fil-A. I think Chick-fil-A is number one.

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We'll be coming back on a Monday, so hey, it's open. It's great game.

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That said, a close number two, and this is very specific, but I think it's a

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Baconator from Wendy's. You've got to stop.

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Because everywhere else, Hardee's has some pretty decent burner options for fast food.

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I like the mushroom swiss burger from Hardee's. There you go.

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It used to be my hunting go-to.

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McDonald's I kind of like swore off in its entirety because I have like a blood

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feed with them from like the pink goo that they got busted for.

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Yeah. Because I used to love chicken McNuggets.

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I mean McDonald's probably changed it up. They actually might have gone with

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like actual chicken after getting busted for that. I don't know.

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Maybe they still do the goo.

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But I ate so many chicken nuggets when I was a kid. I was a freak for chicken nuggets.

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Like, I loved them. And I wanted to, I really wanted the chicken nuggets mostly

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as a vessel for the barbecue sauce they had, which is also fucked up.

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But when I discovered what they did to my innocent child body,

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they destroyed my, I mean, I feel fine.

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I recovered from whatever that was, but I got super mad. And so now I don't,

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was I absolutely must. I don't go to McDonald's at all.

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McDonald's was like, I used to love them. I used to love McDonald's.

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McDonald's was like a drug. It was like a drug when I was growing up because

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I, we didn't, it was not a thing we got.

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It was like a treat.

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So I would only get it when I went to my friend's house because he was one of

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those kids who only ate McDonald's.

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So like, if I was going to his house, we would always stop from McDonald's on the way to his house.

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It was like the only, it was like the only time I was exposed to McDonald's.

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Did they, did your parents kind of be like, no man, we're not doing McDonald's.

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Is that what it was? Yeah.

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Yeah. My mom was. My parents did that too.

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My mom was like, you're not getting fast food.

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I think I kind of broke them down with how

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badly i wanted it so they would i would get it but it'd be like a rare occasions

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be like a treat kind of thing but similarly yeah it was like no we don't need

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that bullshit i was like i want that bullshit

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However when i would do weekends in my dad's house taco

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Bell taco bell taco bell taco

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Bell is one of the healthier options

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It's maybe now not when we were kids yeah well they got their thing was they

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also got caught up into like there was

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Like a whole like the dog the early The

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1990s thing where like all of our favorite, myself included,

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all like the top fast food joints were like not really serving food.

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Like they were serving

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Things that were like technically defined by like legal terms and conditions as food. Food products.

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Taco Bell was at one point, I think like their beef, the ground beef was like 30% beef.

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It was like grade D beef or something.

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Probably the lowest grade beef, but technically 30% of it was actual beef.

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And then the other 70% was, I guess, filler. Yeah. So who knows what that was?

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It's usually soy flour. Fuck, dude.

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Soy flour or something like that. When I was, around the time I got my first job and my license,

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and I had scraps of money here and there, and I was very hungry,

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I would go to Taco Bell where they still had like $0.65 individual tacos you could get.

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Yeah, that's the shit.

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Oh, yeah. So I'd go there with like $2.90. I'd be like, give me as many tacos

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as this gets me. I think you have four or five tacos.

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There's something you have to appreciate about Taco Bell, though,

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that they figured out that none of the other places did.

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They're the most utilitarian fast food restaurant because every single menu

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item is the exact same thing assembled a different way.

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Yeah, that's smart. It's amazing. I respect the game.

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It's a good system. Really, you can have whatever you have.

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If you like those things,

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You just decide how you want it presented to you.

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Remember the sauces, too? They had like mild, medium, and then like fire.

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Oh, fire sauce.

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The goo that you'd pour on. And you had to fight for the fire sauce.

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I loved that goo. Yeah, the fire sauce was like selectively,

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there were fewer ingredients.

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It was like a,

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You know, like gold and silver.

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It was like a precious commodity.

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It's a, yeah. You can tell we're a car full of people who haven't been eating

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outside of a closed set of food.

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Yeah, the funny thing is I ordinarily, like this is the most I've talked about

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these food options in years. I don't really, I don't think about this shit.

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I don't eat fast food, but right now it interests me. Like when I get like this,

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I'm willing to do it. We're going to see, like, all the signs for these things for the next six hours.

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We're staring at it. Yeah. It's the way it goes. So here's a fun metric to,

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like, gauge how middle of nowhere you are, by the way.

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We're not there. We're still, like, in, like, the somewhat developed world.

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But, like, we were driving back from Louisiana once.

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And not once. Last fall. And we get to Alabama, which is already,

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you know, I have my feelings about Alabama.

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You better dump on the Alabamas?

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They don't listen. There's not a single listener. Yeah, at least there wasn't

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back in January. Come on, let them know.

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Let's talk behind their back.

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Alabama, they should start listening. Maybe we'll get them listening as we should talk.

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Shame the state to don't listen. It was Kentucky finally popped up on the map.

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Yeah, I saw that. That was good. About time. Alabama there's basically the north

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eastern section of Alabama is the most middle of nowhere

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It's like Huntsville

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Area away from Huntsville it's after Huntsville Huntsville's

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Where we threw all those Nazi scientists down there to build our rockets

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Dude so like

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Basically, that whole northeast corner of Alabama is nowhere.

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Okay. There's nothing. There's very few exits. It's getting close to Tennessee, right?

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But what I was going to get to, yeah, you're getting close to Tennessee and Georgia.

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You can tell you're nowhere when Starbucks and McDonald's won't put something at the exits.

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Oh. So the reason I know this is we were driving through that portion of Alabama

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around dinnertime, and the only thing my son wanted to eat was McDonald's.

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And I was like, bro, there's going to be one of the next... We're on a highway.

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There's bound to be a McDonald's. Not a single McDonald's.

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The entirety of the rest of the state. Damn. Like...

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If you didn't have gas, too, you better be gassed up when you're going through

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that stretch because there's not a lot of exits. Interesting.

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So, you know, that is something you have to think about when you're on the road.

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That is something to think about.

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There might be places where you don't have food options.

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Good God. McDonald's really fell off.

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We can move away from fast food.

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Okay. If we want. We can if we want.

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Wasn't it like our foreign policy for a while? where wherever there's a McDonald's,

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we won't go to war with them or whatever. They don't go to war with us.

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I mean, that's kind of like a weird backhanded thing we were doing.

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I guess that's a way of being like, hey, we've infiltrated your systems at this point, right?

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We know that capitalism is succeeding if there's a McDonald's there. Got it.

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But, what other tips and tricks do you have for systematically maintaining your

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weight on the road? While traveling, specifically.

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physically on the road we talked about once in a day before I'm

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Sure there's a bunch so I feel like driving systematically maintaining weight

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maintaining is pretty easy you can even cut weight when you're on the road because

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you just sit on your ass so

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for a drive like this which is going to be 10 hours when it's all said and done

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we're almost 40% of the way through the drive which is crazy but

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it's easier to like not take as much stuff in like into your body yeah and quite

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frankly hydrate because you don't need to as much it's kind of

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You just kind of exist. I mean, I'm driving, right? So paying attention and

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shit. But like, sure, I'll sweat a little bit. Sure, I'll kind of like,

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I don't know.

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My body will use calories to focus and be alive.

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Just baseline.

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Right, but I don't require as much. So it's kind of an easy day to cut weight

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in my experience. I don't really need to cut weight. I just need to maintain.

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I'm a little bit over, but like good over.

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Striking distance. Yeah, well, I'm right where I want to be because I want to

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be heavy. But in any case, it's a simple way to shave off.

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Like, usually my experience when I do this, like, without even trying, I'm down a

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Pound to a pound and a half. Yeah, once you get there.

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And, like, the food that I brought into the car to link to what we were talking

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about, like, I'll try to avoid the fast food unless I have to,

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like, unless I just really want to eat something hot, you know,

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get a little extra energy boost.

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So I'll pack stuff. it's like you know i pack dried fruit and beef jerky yeah

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Like fruit and meat.

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Which is like weight cutting food for me anyways

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Well and it's

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It's light it's light

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It doesn't because i mean really at this point you're not worried about actually

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losing weight you're worried about not like i'm worried about the weight of

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Food energetic while i drive so quite frankly it becomes very just like which

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again like i i had half a bag of

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Chicken, jerky, and five bites of dried mango.

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I feel pretty good.

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Yeah. I feel like awake, alert. Some coffee, of course.

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A little bit of water. But that'll keep me going for a while.

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So here in a couple hours, I'll probably, I will consider eating real food and

00:22:03.588 --> 00:22:05.228
just munching more snacks. But yeah.

00:22:05.848 --> 00:22:11.228
We got so many goddamn snacks too, man. Like honestly, that's two days worth of actual food.

00:22:11.308 --> 00:22:14.608
We got a whole bag. There's enough calories to feed. oh we could survive

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In this car yeah

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It would be all right but all i'm saying is

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like i don't need to get something until we get

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to chicago where i will definitely want to fight and do a hot ass meal but in

00:22:24.848 --> 00:22:30.268
the meantime we will but in the meantime uh yeah like it becomes simple because

00:22:30.268 --> 00:22:36.268
it's like maybe it helps that i just want to execute the drive because it distracts

00:22:36.268 --> 00:22:38.588
me from wanting to think about food and other shit i have no other choice but

00:22:38.588 --> 00:22:39.988
to focus on the drive You've

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Got to go ahead of you.

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Yeah, well, I can talk to you guys, but I'm like watching the drive.

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So it just keeps you from being distracted and thinking too much about food.

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I think one thing that's nice, like what you're saying about like how we're –

00:22:55.495 --> 00:22:59.635
without like you're not really burning a lot you can kind of know that most

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of your hunger is boredom

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Yeah you know

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So you can it's easy to like compartmentalize that

00:23:04.995 --> 00:23:08.415
be like all right well like i'm not really hungry it's

00:23:08.415 --> 00:23:12.875
easier to wait till your stomach actually tells you versus just like being like

00:23:12.875 --> 00:23:16.315
i'm just gonna eat because i'm bored right right um so i mean that's that's

00:23:16.315 --> 00:23:19.695
there's kind of a nice thing about when you're moving a lot it's well one you

00:23:19.695 --> 00:23:20.715
aren't burning anymore so you

00:23:20.715 --> 00:23:26.195
kind of have to keep eating but when you're moving a lot it gets harder to

00:23:27.115 --> 00:23:34.175
to differentiate between the two yeah kind of just snack which I guess that

00:23:34.175 --> 00:23:39.475
is still a tricky thing while you're on the road is you do have to make sure

00:23:39.475 --> 00:23:41.215
you don't just start snacking mindlessly

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because you don't do it it is would be easy for me to just sit here and reach

00:23:44.915 --> 00:23:46.075
into the center console right

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it's true

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Coffee.

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Coffee's a good one.

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Coffee's very good. Coffee is a nice little bit of an appetite.

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It suppresses the appetite,

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Keeps you alert.

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Nicotine does that too.

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Nicotine will be doing that here shortly for me.

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No, that'll be a thing for you. It's a thing. They're both also things that

00:24:02.937 --> 00:24:04.897
will order diuretics and it will also stimulate.

00:24:04.897 --> 00:24:06.637
I got to manage that, but I'll be all right.

00:24:07.437 --> 00:24:08.037
You know.

00:24:09.117 --> 00:24:11.357
Do you want to talk about getting sick to your stomach in matches,

00:24:11.557 --> 00:24:11.577
Dude?

00:24:11.717 --> 00:24:16.257
Oh, dude. Speaking of stomachs, speaking of diuretics. Have you ever had that happen where

00:24:16.257 --> 00:24:20.897
You felt like. In a match? not like actually like i mean maybe if you have actually

00:24:20.897 --> 00:24:27.597
had no never but have you ever had like the ill tummy the uncomfortable stomachs i've

00:24:27.597 --> 00:24:34.257
Gotten sick before tournaments and i've had to like withdraw or like yeah i

00:24:34.257 --> 00:24:36.977
mean i've had to like not do a tournament because i was actually ill

00:24:36.977 --> 00:24:39.097
Um but

00:24:39.097 --> 00:24:43.157
I never like felt like i was in the dump out on the mat thank god

00:24:43.157 --> 00:24:48.257
I've had uh i've never had it like once i'm actually on the map but i've definitely

00:24:48.257 --> 00:24:51.657
had it with like a little bit like the nervous tummy right that's that's different

00:24:51.657 --> 00:24:56.497
that like that's before yeah you are you do get a little concerned when that's

00:24:56.497 --> 00:25:00.217
happening at a time you're like i really hope that this uh this doesn't happen

00:25:00.217 --> 00:25:01.497
while i'm actually competing

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Uh this is one more thing to run through your mind

00:25:04.117 --> 00:25:05.637
Yeah i

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Mean i figure it's like i'm gonna wear some black shorts so they won't know

00:25:08.357 --> 00:25:10.677
if i shit myself number one number two if i do fuck

00:25:10.677 --> 00:25:18.077
Them man that's their problem they will dq you if they should DQ you 100% DQ me I just hope

00:25:18.077 --> 00:25:18.537
That it's like

00:25:19.531 --> 00:25:23.251
Treat me gently. Like, no, shit, I'm so fucked.

00:25:23.411 --> 00:25:24.991
Just please don't tell me. Ban him from competition.

00:25:25.191 --> 00:25:26.691
Like, floodlights come on me.

00:25:27.791 --> 00:25:29.011
Just please do it quietly.

00:25:29.011 --> 00:25:32.111
It would be a shameful act, so that would really suck.

00:25:33.051 --> 00:25:36.371
But yeah, dude. I just figure it's a biological weapon. The other person's got

00:25:36.371 --> 00:25:37.991
to do it. Yeah, you know, just like,

00:25:38.091 --> 00:25:41.311
You just got to keep the biological load down, right?

00:25:41.991 --> 00:25:44.091
I guess if it's once it's out, it's better out than in.

00:25:44.711 --> 00:25:44.911
Yeah.

00:25:45.191 --> 00:25:46.971
Yeah, I mean. No, it never happened, though, thankfully.

00:25:46.971 --> 00:25:50.931
You just got to work those pelvic floor exercises. You do.

00:25:50.931 --> 00:25:55.451
Make sure you're keeping that thing closed up. Keep clenching your cheeks.

00:25:57.431 --> 00:25:58.851
It's a different grip exercise.

00:25:58.931 --> 00:26:04.671
I think it's a manageable thing. Put aside if you're sick and you can't control

00:26:04.671 --> 00:26:08.751
that you're sick, but you can control your eating before a tournament.

00:26:10.071 --> 00:26:14.231
Well, yeah, that gets into the don't try new shit. Don't try new shit. Yeah, it's not the

00:26:14.231 --> 00:26:16.471
Time to try on the new shit. Right, right. Like, I mean, know,

00:26:16.531 --> 00:26:20.091
know yourself, know like your boundaries for like when you should, you should not eat.

00:26:20.211 --> 00:26:25.831
Like know if you need like a digestive window to feel good, you go out on the mat, adhere to it.

00:26:26.971 --> 00:26:29.671
I've always more

00:26:29.671 --> 00:26:33.571
Deferred towards if I need to be on an empty stomach to feel physically comfortable,

00:26:33.991 --> 00:26:36.471
then that's what I'll do personally.

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But in the last couple of years, one with like sometimes the timing of my event,

00:26:41.491 --> 00:26:44.591
example, Sunday, I think I'm around 2, 2.30, something like that.

00:26:44.591 --> 00:26:45.851
So I will have breakfast.

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I'll be done eating breakfast before 8 a.m., maybe 9, latest. Personal preference.

00:26:51.991 --> 00:26:53.131
It's still five hours,

00:26:53.271 --> 00:26:55.231
Right? It's plenty of time. And that'll give me plenty of energy,

00:26:55.311 --> 00:26:59.451
man. Like, I can run kind of on a light.

00:26:59.571 --> 00:27:03.531
I'd rather eat early, maybe go just a little bit over my weight.

00:27:03.651 --> 00:27:07.591
I have five hours to slightly just kind of taper down through the natural, like,

00:27:08.666 --> 00:27:11.746
perspiration process of my day yeah um

00:27:11.746 --> 00:27:16.366
wear a couple extra larynx if i need to accelerate the sweat then hydrate and

00:27:16.366 --> 00:27:22.566
then i'll just that's how i'll feel myself um to prevent any weirdness yeah

00:27:22.566 --> 00:27:25.686
and the foods that i'll eat will be things that i'm like familiar with some

00:27:25.686 --> 00:27:28.846
eggs some fruit coffee yeah

00:27:28.846 --> 00:27:32.346
And like water andrew and i are both going around 5 30s right

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You guys basically have

00:27:33.506 --> 00:27:39.586
We can have a real breakfast. You can have a real lunch. And we can actually, we could have lunch.

00:27:39.886 --> 00:27:41.766
Snacks and shit, depending on your way. I'd probably just be

00:27:41.766 --> 00:27:44.206
Snacking just for the sake of not having like the...

00:27:44.206 --> 00:27:45.506
A big belly full of food?

00:27:45.646 --> 00:27:50.466
Yeah, just for the sloshing. Sloshing. I like to...

00:27:50.466 --> 00:27:51.446
You like to munch a little bit.

00:27:51.766 --> 00:27:54.706
I don't mind... You graze. You graze. Have my little snacks.

00:27:55.706 --> 00:27:57.526
We got a lot of grazable stuff for you, too.

00:27:57.706 --> 00:28:02.006
I don't mind being... I personally don't mind being a little bit lighter.

00:28:02.586 --> 00:28:07.366
because i am still generally bigger in the division regardless like feel strong

00:28:07.366 --> 00:28:10.926
yeah like i'd rather not have food in my stomach i'm kind

00:28:10.926 --> 00:28:11.226
Of the same

00:28:11.226 --> 00:28:14.266
Way yeah because like at that point the only difference in the weight is just

00:28:14.266 --> 00:28:17.346
going to be what i pretty much just cut out what's in my stomach that's all

00:28:17.346 --> 00:28:21.866
i'm really cutting i'm not doing any water or anything like that i've got a

00:28:21.866 --> 00:28:28.026
pretty good system for keeping for managing my like output the week of so that

00:28:28.026 --> 00:28:29.406
like i get a good pretty good carbo

00:28:29.966 --> 00:28:34.146
carbo load like build up glycogen stores so like I'm not really burning a lot

00:28:34.146 --> 00:28:37.906
force like I have a good good like backup of energy going into

00:28:37.906 --> 00:28:45.226
It I think Asim had all four of us as well really well curated for like a solid

00:28:45.226 --> 00:28:47.566
rest week with really any training being like

00:28:48.528 --> 00:28:53.528
maintain slash I'd almost even say optional to like all of our discretion to

00:28:53.528 --> 00:28:55.868
just keep the body moving sweat a little bit what was

00:28:55.868 --> 00:28:59.948
Your last workout day me yeah yesterday yesterday it was

00:28:59.948 --> 00:29:02.828
Like it was like a five six out of ten workout he

00:29:02.828 --> 00:29:03.948
Cut me on Tuesday

00:29:03.948 --> 00:29:05.328
Okay what

00:29:05.328 --> 00:29:08.908
About what about you guys you get cut yeah

00:29:08.908 --> 00:29:17.188
I don't think I did a solid lift this week but I was drilling and sweating last night yeah my

00:29:17.188 --> 00:29:20.288
Last heavy lift was last wednesday i

00:29:20.288 --> 00:29:24.748
want to say um he gave the scene gave me some body weight stuff just to keep

00:29:24.748 --> 00:29:29.308
sweat going through the weekend um but i was on he put me on pretty much solid

00:29:29.308 --> 00:29:32.888
rest protocol so far strength and conditioning went like starting monday onwards

00:29:32.888 --> 00:29:37.988
um i did a little bit of training on monday and tuesday but after that i was just teaching classes

00:29:39.544 --> 00:29:43.624
It was perfect. Yeah. I mean, what we did, we did that open mat Saturday.

00:29:43.704 --> 00:29:45.744
So we had a pretty good, like. Good workout.

00:29:46.024 --> 00:29:48.304
That was a good level of intensity.

00:29:48.704 --> 00:29:52.704
You know, like, not super hard intensity, but like good.

00:29:52.704 --> 00:29:54.584
Six, seven out of ten. Yeah. Six, seven out of ten.

00:29:55.224 --> 00:29:57.584
Good controlled, like, live reps.

00:30:00.824 --> 00:30:02.584
Kate's doing the six, seven back there.

00:30:02.764 --> 00:30:04.784
Oh, yeah. People say that. I still don't know what it means.

00:30:05.684 --> 00:30:08.444
Apparently it means nothing. It's just a pissy problem. Dude, I'm almost 40.

00:30:08.444 --> 00:30:12.144
Like, there's certain things that I'm never going to even try to understand.

00:30:12.444 --> 00:30:15.404
Yeah. That's one of them. I'm just allegedly it means nothing.

00:30:15.644 --> 00:30:18.024
Okay. It's literally just to upset people.

00:30:18.204 --> 00:30:18.544
Nice.

00:30:19.024 --> 00:30:21.284
Okay, got it. If they don't understand it. Cool, cool, cool,

00:30:21.284 --> 00:30:27.804
cool. But I did my last heart training on the mats on Tuesday.

00:30:28.704 --> 00:30:33.384
And you just did, like, wrestling. So I did, like, an hour 15 of wrestling,

00:30:33.384 --> 00:30:35.624
like, live stuff the whole time, which was fun.

00:30:36.944 --> 00:30:43.684
And I think just outside of body weight, Saturday, Sunday, it was just running Monday, Tuesday.

00:30:43.884 --> 00:30:46.884
Yeah, I had some runs and some light stuff like that. And then a lot of this,

00:30:47.024 --> 00:30:51.464
this week was just some drills, sweat drills, situational work.

00:30:52.300 --> 00:30:52.840
Just to keep

00:30:52.840 --> 00:30:54.480
The weaponry kind of sharp.

00:30:54.700 --> 00:30:58.980
I was glad because I was getting my ass kicked by allergies.

00:30:59.580 --> 00:31:02.460
Yeah. So, like, I was in, like, deep in the pits of despair.

00:31:02.520 --> 00:31:07.580
I've also been going pretty hard up until last, up until Saturday.

00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.440
Until, like, yeah, Saturday. I was going pretty hard, too. It's probably going to give your

00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:13.780
Immune system and social immune system

00:31:13.780 --> 00:31:18.660
A break. Yeah, that little extra wind-out. Because, I mean, outside of, I only did, like,

00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:20.640
A three-day team for Chicago.

00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:27.160
I feel like so like this just basically did Dallas the conditioning

00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:28.560
Is still there yeah still

00:31:28.560 --> 00:31:33.220
There the knowledge is there every time for that body get

00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:36.800
Ready no time off yeah take image of all well like

00:31:36.800 --> 00:31:43.380
Honestly I think one of the biggest things is like you said which was intentional like that like

00:31:44.300 --> 00:31:48.760
get your nervous system out of that stress response from training every day

00:31:48.760 --> 00:31:54.040
like multiple hours right yeah um so i mean that is a pretty big load on the

00:31:54.040 --> 00:31:59.000
system in and of itself and like honestly like i think what another big part

00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:00.920
of it is just getting to that like point

00:32:02.180 --> 00:32:07.740
where you kind of itching to get back on the mat uh-huh you know i just really want to just

00:32:08.280 --> 00:32:11.340
bolt yeah um so like there's

00:32:11.340 --> 00:32:14.960
something about that too that's nice um i actually

00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:22.960
have a question for the ladies because i don't know as much about the weight

00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:27.040
cut product because it's different right like the weight cut process so i'd

00:32:27.040 --> 00:32:32.320
actually be curious about some of the tactics you guys have or been tapping

00:32:32.320 --> 00:32:34.220
into or that you've learned from other

00:32:35.637 --> 00:32:42.557
women competitors um so i'm interviewing you now um but so i'd be curious about

00:32:42.557 --> 00:32:48.297
like what tactics you're using if they're different than what we do like leading

00:32:48.297 --> 00:32:50.517
up when you start your cuts stuff like

00:32:50.517 --> 00:32:52.017
That uh raise.

00:32:52.017 --> 00:32:55.797
Your hand if you want to start all right i'll hand it to andrea yeah

00:32:55.797 --> 00:32:59.677
Uh i'm fortunate in that i'm currently competing in a weight class where i don't

00:32:59.677 --> 00:33:04.077
i like i don't really have to cut cut i mostly just have to kind of like maintain

00:33:04.077 --> 00:33:07.517
and be careful because I am like a little small for the weight class.

00:33:07.677 --> 00:33:13.917
Back when I was cutting to the weight class below though, I did have to do like an actual cut.

00:33:14.477 --> 00:33:19.317
And for that, I think that my strategy was like similar to what you guys do.

00:33:19.537 --> 00:33:24.337
The main thing that I had to look out for is because of our menstrual cycles,

00:33:24.337 --> 00:33:28.977
like we do have more issues with water retention and bloating that we kind of have to account for.

00:33:29.277 --> 00:33:32.037
So like I would try to actually be like a little

00:33:32.037 --> 00:33:35.017
under where I absolutely needed to be just in case

00:33:35.017 --> 00:33:40.557
there was that like unexpected bloat um i have had friends who had given me

00:33:40.557 --> 00:33:44.117
that advice like other really seasoned female competitors were like yeah i was

00:33:44.117 --> 00:33:47.537
on perfectly on weight and like i got my period like the day before my competition

00:33:47.537 --> 00:33:52.257
and i had to like spend an entire day starving myself and panicking so i i

00:33:52.257 --> 00:33:52.677
Was like all

00:33:52.677 --> 00:33:56.417
Right i don't want that to happen um so just to be on the safe side i dieted

00:33:56.417 --> 00:34:00.697
down as much as i could um just so that i could like buy myself a few extra

00:34:00.697 --> 00:34:04.617
pounds of like not having to worry in case of emergency.

00:34:05.768 --> 00:34:07.548
Yeah, I am in that next weight class down.

00:34:07.928 --> 00:34:12.708
I walk around the weight that I need to be in the gi without the gi.

00:34:13.028 --> 00:34:18.288
So I had just a little bit of a weight to cut down, probably two, three pounds.

00:34:19.608 --> 00:34:22.788
I find it relatively easy.

00:34:22.988 --> 00:34:29.768
I start about two weeks out and the only real change I make is cutting down on late night snacking.

00:34:29.928 --> 00:34:33.708
I am a sucker for a salty snack at around 10 or 11 p.m.

00:34:33.708 --> 00:34:38.568
So I find, I know we all are, I find that if I cut that out,

00:34:38.768 --> 00:34:43.488
that I, you know, am sleeping really deeply, I get better sleep those two weeks,

00:34:43.488 --> 00:34:49.108
and I'm not retaining as much of the water, which really easily drops it down.

00:34:49.108 --> 00:34:52.228
I also try to get, you know, about half a

00:34:52.228 --> 00:34:56.268
pound under where I want to wake up in the morning just to give myself the flexibility

00:34:56.268 --> 00:35:01.288
of being able to drink more water slowly over the course of the morning and

00:35:01.288 --> 00:35:05.268
have coffee and a little bit of food because I know that I'll be in a better

00:35:05.268 --> 00:35:10.968
mood and probably perform better if I am well hydrated and actually have some food in my stomach.

00:35:11.228 --> 00:35:14.588
So err on the side of being a little light. I'm always happy when the scale

00:35:14.588 --> 00:35:16.988
comes up a little lighter. But yeah.

00:35:19.964 --> 00:35:24.704
Okay, so I mean, it's like outside of specific considerations,

00:35:24.704 --> 00:35:32.384
I'm sure that like differs to Andrea when like, depending on where you are in

00:35:32.384 --> 00:35:34.924
the cycle, and when the tournament falls.

00:35:36.224 --> 00:35:39.284
Outside of that doesn't seem like it's too much different, like dieting down

00:35:39.284 --> 00:35:40.524
ends up being about the same.

00:35:41.424 --> 00:35:44.784
You can dial it into like your natural yeah like we all

00:35:46.344 --> 00:35:51.704
male female or whatever you gotta figure out the rhythms for like you know when

00:35:51.704 --> 00:35:54.044
you start competing a little bit more I'm sure you guys Andrew you probably

00:35:54.044 --> 00:35:54.804
know this for years but like

00:35:55.324 --> 00:35:58.384
kind of just I mean I wake up every day I just like check my weight whether

00:35:58.384 --> 00:36:03.404
I'm competing or not I kind of like to know just like what my natural fluctuations are sleeping

00:36:04.104 --> 00:36:05.964
Waking up kind of how that.

00:36:05.964 --> 00:36:11.404
All works so then like you two said if you buffer like a pound or a half pound

00:36:11.404 --> 00:36:12.784
or whatever and then you're like

00:36:13.604 --> 00:36:17.724
that all kind of goes like the mental side of things really cool like I know

00:36:17.724 --> 00:36:21.544
there's some variables I can't control but if I can keep it down here I'll be

00:36:21.544 --> 00:36:22.464
able to drink a little bit more

00:36:22.464 --> 00:36:25.144
though to eat a little bit more which then just makes your life easier

00:36:25.144 --> 00:36:26.724
And so much of.

00:36:26.724 --> 00:36:29.964
This is maintaining like a good attitude

00:36:31.272 --> 00:36:36.492
and feeling just as happy as you can be while doing something that kind of inherently is not easy

00:36:36.492 --> 00:36:46.212
Yeah um i mean i know that when i get to my like eat down so once i'm like actually

00:36:46.212 --> 00:36:51.252
eating down like drop like tape like walking my weight down um once i get to

00:36:51.252 --> 00:36:55.872
like the right spot i get to like a four to five pound,

00:36:56.612 --> 00:36:58.852
like I sleep off roughly four to five.

00:36:59.252 --> 00:37:03.072
And so once that's happening, I'm in the right spot.

00:37:03.252 --> 00:37:08.172
It tends to be the right, like everything's lined up where it should be.

00:37:08.692 --> 00:37:12.352
And that's usually about 12 days.

00:37:13.372 --> 00:37:18.172
I have to like start 12 days from when I want to be on the weight. Did you cut

00:37:18.172 --> 00:37:19.032
Creatine this time, Mike?

00:37:19.192 --> 00:37:22.512
No, I don't cut. Okay. I did this time.

00:37:22.512 --> 00:37:27.352
And I was like five, someday seven pounds over.

00:37:28.592 --> 00:37:32.612
And you know what's interesting, I didn't completely intentionally do it,

00:37:33.648 --> 00:37:38.828
start i kind of like downshifted my creatine intake eight or nine days ago

00:37:40.448 --> 00:37:43.388
oh no no just just just i basically well

00:37:43.388 --> 00:37:46.148
i did early on and then i and then i like missed it

00:37:46.148 --> 00:37:49.008
for a day because busy and then i was like all

00:37:49.008 --> 00:37:51.688
right so it's right there though i have the creatine like i'll

00:37:51.688 --> 00:37:56.048
just pound it if i want it and then i thought to myself and i and this was not

00:37:56.048 --> 00:37:59.048
that long ago i was still like five or six pounds over so it's like all right

00:37:59.048 --> 00:38:04.808
like i'm i'm okay but also like you know this weight has to come off so i decided

00:38:04.808 --> 00:38:07.728
i was like i'll just cut it we were talking to david the other day he mentioned

00:38:07.728 --> 00:38:10.048
he did i was like you know let's see how this works i think

00:38:10.048 --> 00:38:15.788
You i think it needs to be at least 12 days before the well the weight started coming

00:38:15.788 --> 00:38:19.768
Off pretty well for me like about like almost like a half a pound to three quarters

00:38:19.768 --> 00:38:25.048
of a pound a day maybe like every two days to where i was like nice like i it

00:38:25.048 --> 00:38:25.968
got me now to where I'm like,

00:38:26.148 --> 00:38:30.868
I'm basically on weight, but I'm waking up after I go to the bathroom.

00:38:30.968 --> 00:38:33.088
It still says I'm about a pound over on my scale.

00:38:33.368 --> 00:38:38.008
My scale is a pound over the IBJF scale. So it's like, I think I'm actually on weight. Well, okay.

00:38:38.228 --> 00:38:43.228
It's a pound over the test scale, which is usually half a pound or a pound over

00:38:43.228 --> 00:38:45.768
the regular scale. So to me, I'm like, well, good.

00:38:45.948 --> 00:38:50.408
I actually want this to say that I'm a little bit heavier because I haven't had to cut anything.

00:38:50.808 --> 00:38:53.508
I've modified my diet a little bit. I've been eating plenty,

00:38:53.928 --> 00:38:56.928
but it ain't good, quite frankly. The weight just keeps going down.

00:38:58.308 --> 00:39:01.248
Creatine intake has decreased, but, like, maybe that's why. And I still feel

00:39:01.248 --> 00:39:02.428
fine. Like, I still feel athletic.

00:39:02.628 --> 00:39:06.888
Did you cut all of it? All of it. Did you just reduce all of it? All of it.

00:39:07.048 --> 00:39:08.528
For about a little more than a week now.

00:39:08.988 --> 00:39:13.688
Because I'm sure outside of the water loading portion of it, I

00:39:13.688 --> 00:39:14.308
Know that it's.

00:39:14.308 --> 00:39:17.468
Roughly 12 days for, like, the effects.

00:39:18.168 --> 00:39:21.888
So, I mean, outside of that high, the actual increased energy,

00:39:22.028 --> 00:39:23.488
it's roughly 12 to 14 days.

00:39:23.928 --> 00:39:26.708
I mean, I've been taking creatine every day, quite a bit of it for

00:39:27.950 --> 00:39:30.990
Ah decade yeah i don't

00:39:30.990 --> 00:39:35.450
Know i don't miss days usually occasionally someone will come up i'll travel i'll forget or

00:39:35.450 --> 00:39:39.750
Whatever it is fine to miss days on creatine though yeah yeah of course it's still in

00:39:39.750 --> 00:39:43.550
My body from like the last like nine years of consistency um

00:39:43.550 --> 00:39:44.430
But all i'm saying.

00:39:45.810 --> 00:39:47.110
Saturation this is the longest

00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:51.090
Time i've not consistently taken creatine in a long time feel fine and the weight's

00:39:51.090 --> 00:39:53.890
been coming down so i'm not saying it's because of that i don't know what it

00:39:53.890 --> 00:39:57.730
is but i mean it might be i think it's probably at least a part of the process

00:39:58.290 --> 00:40:02.990
my body composition is good i'm on you know i'm still big for my weight class so i'll take it

00:40:02.990 --> 00:40:10.550
Yeah i mean it usually comes down to like i mean really what it boils down to

00:40:10.550 --> 00:40:12.470
and we'll wrap this one up in a minute

00:40:12.470 --> 00:40:14.490
But uh it boils down to getting.

00:40:14.490 --> 00:40:17.390
The reducing the amount of like dead weight on

00:40:17.390 --> 00:40:20.630
your body so excess water uh which is

00:40:20.630 --> 00:40:23.510
possible like if you're you have more water than

00:40:23.510 --> 00:40:27.750
you need right right so optimizing hydration and

00:40:27.750 --> 00:40:30.870
uh reducing like the excess gut weight like

00:40:30.870 --> 00:40:34.890
food in your digestive system uh so

00:40:34.890 --> 00:40:41.630
like i do like a low residue diet uh low residue diet yeah so you just eat things

00:40:41.630 --> 00:40:46.790
that your body processes faster okay like it moves to the system quickly so

00:40:46.790 --> 00:40:52.450
you eat a lower volume of fat and don't eat high

00:40:53.890 --> 00:40:54.810
Things like leafy.

00:40:54.810 --> 00:40:59.430
Greens stuff like that that will poke in your system just so that you have things

00:40:59.430 --> 00:41:03.770
that are easy to digest and move through quicker that's really all it is that

00:41:03.770 --> 00:41:07.590
way you're not sitting with food in the gut just lingering

00:41:07.590 --> 00:41:08.630
In your digestive tract

00:41:08.630 --> 00:41:12.930
That's just weight that doesn't do anything at that point anyways right that

00:41:12.930 --> 00:41:18.490
two pounds of food isn't gonna make you feel heavier or stronger so uh

00:41:19.362 --> 00:41:19.642
Yeah.

00:41:20.022 --> 00:41:22.902
Any other thoughts from the ladies in the backseat?

00:41:23.682 --> 00:41:24.662
Backseat ladies.

00:41:27.542 --> 00:41:32.062
My only other thing that I'm actually working on right now is working backwards

00:41:32.062 --> 00:41:34.882
from where the scale needs to be.

00:41:35.162 --> 00:41:40.702
And I take a scale, like a literal food scale at home, and I weigh my gi. I weigh my belt.

00:41:40.902 --> 00:41:44.402
I weigh the sports bra and compression shorts that I'm going to wear.

00:41:44.702 --> 00:41:48.942
And I, like, subtract down from there. And then I subtract a pound for food

00:41:48.942 --> 00:41:52.522
and I go and I'm like, all right, if I take all of that off,

00:41:52.602 --> 00:41:54.442
where does my weight need to be?

00:41:54.542 --> 00:41:58.042
Something that's comfortable to weigh in on my home scale.

00:41:58.202 --> 00:42:01.462
Attention to detail. And so I know like where I need to wake up in the morning

00:42:01.462 --> 00:42:04.242
that when I put my gi on, I'm going to be at the right weight.

00:42:04.482 --> 00:42:09.822
I know if I sleep off two pounds, then when I go to bed tonight, I want to be at X weight.

00:42:10.562 --> 00:42:13.562
Attention to detail. Five points Gryffindor.

00:42:13.842 --> 00:42:19.462
Yeah, that's a good. I like that system. that's a good system uh yeah

00:42:19.462 --> 00:42:23.562
Does that help you calculate where you want your calorie deficit to be as well

00:42:23.562 --> 00:42:27.422
that can also oh sorry let me say it like does that also help you calculate

00:42:27.422 --> 00:42:30.482
like the exact calorie deficit you want when you're dieting down because that

00:42:30.482 --> 00:42:35.622
can also kind of be a factor because you don't want to lose it too quick here yeah

00:42:35.622 --> 00:42:41.562
It's less about the the calorie deficit itself and day of it's more about the

00:42:41.562 --> 00:42:44.642
actual weight of the food that i'm putting in so i

00:42:44.642 --> 00:42:46.022
Oh, you were talking about like actual pounds.

00:42:46.022 --> 00:42:47.222
Like actual pounds, yeah,

00:42:47.342 --> 00:42:47.622
Yeah, yeah.

00:42:48.062 --> 00:42:52.342
Like this is my tonight into tomorrow weigh-in schedule for myself.

00:42:53.082 --> 00:42:57.142
Knowing that if I have half a cup of coffee and a cup of water,

00:42:57.402 --> 00:42:59.022
that that's about a pound.

00:42:59.302 --> 00:43:04.022
So I need to be able to have both of those things before I get on the mat.

00:43:06.696 --> 00:43:10.676
Yeah, to kind of touch on your question, Andrew, about the calorie deficit thing,

00:43:10.856 --> 00:43:18.956
because it's an energy-intensive sport, even though we are cutting weight,

00:43:19.296 --> 00:43:23.896
you really don't want to be getting too much below a 100-calorie deficit for

00:43:23.896 --> 00:43:26.136
the sake of maintaining performance.

00:43:27.256 --> 00:43:34.256
So if you're trying to lose a volume of that car, that's probably from my old high school.

00:43:36.206 --> 00:43:39.406
They were from Maryland and it said Bucks, which was on that spot.

00:43:39.626 --> 00:43:40.726
Yeah, and it was the same color.

00:43:40.926 --> 00:43:44.366
Some psychotic DC driver pulled in front of us. They're doing DC stuff in the

00:43:44.366 --> 00:43:44.746
middle of Pennsylvania.

00:43:45.246 --> 00:43:52.686
It's DC shit, dude. But you would time out like your – if you have to actually

00:43:52.686 --> 00:43:55.646
like lose tangible pounds,

00:43:57.666 --> 00:44:02.526
then you would have to time out your like deficit based on that most likely

00:44:02.526 --> 00:44:06.506
so that you're not doing a crash diet. So that kind of keeps you out of that crash diet.

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We're going to end up in like just crazy deficit with low energy and stuff like that.

00:44:11.086 --> 00:44:15.266
I think part of that plays into what you were saying, Mike, about the composition

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of your plate of food. Yeah.

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Like the leafy greens or whatever works. Like you can, if you get dialed into

00:44:21.886 --> 00:44:27.986
this world, you can manage calorie deficits and maybe not even have to endure one.

00:44:27.986 --> 00:44:34.246
if you know what types of food, as you said, help your body release just the

00:44:34.246 --> 00:44:37.146
unnecessary weight that it's carrying while,

00:44:37.486 --> 00:44:41.006
so in other words, it's like you can eat the exact, if not, maybe even a calorie

00:44:41.006 --> 00:44:45.806
surplus if you're eating the right foods while also losing weight while also

00:44:45.806 --> 00:44:47.466
maintaining energy and peak performance.

00:44:47.986 --> 00:44:48.106
Yeah.

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I mean, you got to know your body and you got to know like some basic nutrition

00:44:51.946 --> 00:44:58.226
to understand what that is for you as a person, except for this,

00:44:58.346 --> 00:45:02.366
for me, fruit and meat, I feel pretty good.

00:45:02.526 --> 00:45:07.346
I might have, personally, I might have a little, if there's a day for me to

00:45:07.346 --> 00:45:10.006
not feel extraordinarily physically energetic,

00:45:10.186 --> 00:45:11.726
Today's a good day for that. I seem to drive.

00:45:12.066 --> 00:45:13.326
I'll be mentally energetic.

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But I don't need dense.

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Starchy carbs today. I'll probably get some tonight. I want to see what my weight

00:45:21.426 --> 00:45:23.686
is. If I'm too light after this drive, I'm going to eat good.

00:45:24.506 --> 00:45:28.266
I actually don't want accidentally lose a pound of mass today

00:45:29.238 --> 00:45:30.558
that I could use on Sunday.

00:45:31.258 --> 00:45:31.298
Yeah.

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But it's like, I think about it, it's like, kind of like, it's like my car.

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It's like, what's going into it?

00:45:37.818 --> 00:45:40.918
What fuel, what gasoline is going to get the job done?

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That's how I like to think about it.

00:45:44.458 --> 00:45:45.038
Try to be

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Like a sports performance vehicle.

00:45:47.298 --> 00:45:49.898
Yeah, are you using 91? Are you using 87?

00:45:49.898 --> 00:45:50.898
Yeah, 93, but you know,

00:45:51.058 --> 00:45:52.958
Yeah. Ooh, 93. Good baby.

00:45:53.238 --> 00:45:54.498
Top tier. Got that.

00:45:54.678 --> 00:45:56.078
Top, he's a five-star man.

00:45:56.318 --> 00:45:57.418
Five-star guest. Yes, I guess.

00:45:58.238 --> 00:46:02.818
Yeah, I mean, the car analogy is a good one, especially like we want to get super deep into it.

00:46:04.678 --> 00:46:09.398
Some people say that you should run your vehicle to have a tank because it's lighter.

00:46:10.338 --> 00:46:12.818
So you're running, you're actually, your vehicle.

00:46:13.018 --> 00:46:14.098
You're getting more gas mileage?

00:46:14.218 --> 00:46:18.158
You're getting a better gas mileage because you have a. Should we run the

00:46:18.158 --> 00:46:18.838
Experiment in the middle of

00:46:18.838 --> 00:46:21.058
Ohio and see if I run out of gas? Let's not run it in Ohio.

00:46:21.078 --> 00:46:21.858
Okay, in Indiana?

00:46:22.018 --> 00:46:24.538
Wait, we're on competition path. You can't be trying new shit.

00:46:24.538 --> 00:46:25.458
No, we got to get there on time.

00:46:25.578 --> 00:46:30.738
You can't try new shit. To me, I get it. We should interview a Formula One race

00:46:30.738 --> 00:46:32.218
car team, see what they think about these things.

00:46:32.218 --> 00:46:33.198
We could get a...

00:46:33.198 --> 00:46:34.638
Did you ever believe he was a NASCAR driver?

00:46:34.938 --> 00:46:36.958
Yeah, I was going to say we could get a NASCAR driver back in.

00:46:37.598 --> 00:46:41.038
We could all make some calls. That would be fun, dude. We could get him back on the show.

00:46:41.038 --> 00:46:43.098
Maybe he can get his tickets to Talladega or like...

00:46:43.098 --> 00:46:44.538
I mean, maybe.

00:46:44.738 --> 00:46:46.318
Let's go to Daytona. He always says Richmond.

00:46:46.958 --> 00:46:50.118
He's based out of, I think, North Carolina now, so we could go down to North Carolina.

00:46:50.118 --> 00:46:53.138
It's a good NASCAR state, yeah. Into it.

00:46:53.398 --> 00:46:55.378
Yeah, we could go learn some things about race cars.

00:46:55.378 --> 00:46:59.258
See, that all makes sense, too. They're playing a different game, I suppose.

00:46:59.678 --> 00:47:03.558
This is a game of, like, let's get there as efficiently and quickly as possible.

00:47:03.998 --> 00:47:06.098
You also don't want to make the stops,

00:47:06.298 --> 00:47:07.738
Right? Right, right.

00:47:08.518 --> 00:47:12.258
You start playing those performance games, right? This isn't performance time.

00:47:12.258 --> 00:47:13.898
Performance games are kind of fun, though, too. Yeah, it is.

00:47:13.958 --> 00:47:17.138
This isn't performance time. We have a place to go. Let's get there.

00:47:17.318 --> 00:47:18.918
We're covering distance. Right.

00:47:19.578 --> 00:47:23.258
But, yeah, that was just a thing. I liked that analogy that you said.

00:47:23.378 --> 00:47:25.638
I liked that analogy, too. So I was like, oh, well, here's another little tag about that.

00:47:25.638 --> 00:47:27.178
Direct from the race car driver.

00:47:28.478 --> 00:47:28.758
Yeah.

00:47:29.078 --> 00:47:29.538
We've got to talk to

00:47:29.538 --> 00:47:31.638
That guy again. Let me fucking see. We'll get him back on.

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