The Gym Goers Guide to Building a BJJ Community (Episode 69)

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee. We are your hosts with a combined

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40 years of grappling experience. Scott Dance.

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And Michael Sutherland. And real quick before we get started here,

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Now, let's get to it.

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Community. All jujitsu requires levels of trust and respect for the other people

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around you. So you want to have a culture or community that you are.

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Comfortable being a part of or that you enjoy being

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a part of right i mean i personally like

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we have all the guys that i train with we have

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a group chat that we all like talk shit

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and make jokes and all that and we'll also just

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using it for discussing of jujitsu but like

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we're all comfortable enough that we can have that

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kind of interaction within there and uh we

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we get together on weekends sometimes watch

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fights and you know do things as

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off the mats as well we've created this sort

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of environment um or this sort of community there's also

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the on-mat culture right the types of you

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want to have surround yourself with the types of people that either share

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similar goals are willing to help you achieve your goals

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even if theirs are different and so

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we're going talk about how to get there scott i know

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you have experience well i of

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course i know but you know you have experience running a gym so there's a different

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there's different levels to this uh ownership uh developing that community in

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that culture from the ownership side because that's the beginning right that's

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when the gym opens there's no members and.

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You have to somehow create this, this culture and community from scratch, right?

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So how that's, there's an aspect there, the coach developing that on mat culture.

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Sometimes that can bleed over into other aspects, just depending on the way the gym is.

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And then also students students also have

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the ability to develop the

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culture and community within the gym whether that's

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through how interaction with the

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other students other members or how they

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bring other members in you know so sometimes

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i mean you know as gym owner your students are

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sometimes the best marketing tool they bring people in

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because they enjoy it so much but that can also

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be a way for them to develop the type of community and culture

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that they would like to see within the gym they're paying members

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they kind of get a vote on that kind of thing and through you know so let's

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get into let's get into it man uh so scott when i mean because you have experience

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with this recently and historically um with starting starting a gym right?

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And when starting a gym, what kind of those first few members, right? How did.

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How do you look at them when you're thinking of the type of space that you want the gym to be?

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And obviously this, it changes throughout the lifespan of the,

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of the gym because things change in different people. You move,

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people leave, whatever, especially in this area, right?

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People are, it's pretty transient, but how do you, how do you,

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is there like a vetting process or kind of like a, that you go through?

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Cause sometimes these people haven't trained at the gym yet

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right they don't know sometimes there's

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an unknown there like is there a process you go through when selecting or

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not selecting but when people are signing up at the very beginning before the

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gym like is there a process you go through either indoctrination process but

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you know to help create the the beginning of the type of culture community that you foresee in the gym,

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well which you want me to start with the vetting thing okay maybe yeah well

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you know i'll work i'll work i'll weave it yeah all together um yeah so i i'd

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say real quickly on the vetting part dude um i think the.

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Vetting is important, but the main thing,

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simply put, you want to make sure, at least at that, I'll just start with that

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because I think that's actually a relatively simple answer and it kind of gets

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to the other part of the meat and potatoes of what you're talking about here

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as it relates to like communities and culture.

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Vetting first and foremost is to make sure this person's not like insane because

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you'll get some insane people who come into gyms.

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Happens. Most people aren't, but like you'll get some insane people.

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So like kind of like literally you do vet them. Just be like,

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all right, is this person got any screws loose that I need to know about?

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Like put aside like fun, quirky, weird stuff that we are like a beacon for in

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the martial arts one, which is great.

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We love that. We talked about doing an episode on that at some point too.

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Oh, there will be a weirdos episode. Can't wait.

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Can't wait for it. But, but anyways, it's like, that's great and all,

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but like legitimately is this person like a safe person, a sane and safe person

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to have in here? And like, you know, that's generally pretty easy to,

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to ascertain at least at like a surface level enough to like invite them into your community.

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Um, and so like you, again, nine, 99% of people were like, yeah, easy.

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So then you're talking to these folks and like, there's, it's just,

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you know, there's like a sales process.

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There's like, there's a very collaborative communicative process,

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including sales, um, as like a, kind of like the, the veil they have to kind

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of push, pierce through before they enter in your community.

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It's like you'll have some interaction with the person to kind of like figure more

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of what i just set out um and also

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just kind of like generally speaking like what this person's like too as you

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about to integrate them into your community so there's a little bit of vetting

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um is to make sure that they're like just like a decent human being um because

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it's like on that thread for a second like if you're running a business um if

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you're running a business like you you.

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It's important to know like what your identity, like what your business does,

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what do you, who do you serve and how do you serve them and can you deliver

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on that service to like the different

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constituent customer profiles like a beginner versus a competitor.

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Just as a simple example, like you need to be able to, I shouldn't say you need

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to, like some businesses just want to do competition.

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Not a ton of people do that but there are some places out there but i just said

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to say like like if you're gonna have a brand new person walk in you've never

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trained before like you know,

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if you're capable of serving that guy when they walk in like

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close them bring them in my that's my way of saying like most martial arts businesses

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um to be a successful business like they need to be welcoming for almost anybody

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of any background athletically or martial arts wise right so like my way of

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saying like again as long as they're not a crazy person like dude if you're

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you're interested in signing up for martial arts.

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Like I am one of the people in the world who believes that like,

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there's something to be gained for almost anyone who wants to do martial arts.

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Like, Hey, you know what? And they're willing to pay you.

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Great. You're qualified coming here. And so the, yes, you mentioned the word

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like indoctrination, like we're going through some sort of program.

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Um, I'll get to like, now we're kind of getting to like the actual culture stuff here.

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I think, um, you, you, some of that stuff kind of just gets like cooked into

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the environment naturally and a healthy way.

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And like the, the members and the other coaches are so critical to that but

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um in my opinion i think at its core the culture and like community that gets

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developed it does come from whether it's a person or a group of leadership like

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people in leadership positions.

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Um like one owner multiple owners or like an owner but also like his like his

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or her like core group of like head coaches and then you know they're like subordinate

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coaches underneath that Like,

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um, it starts with the founder, it starts with the person.

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Cause like in, in our space, which is perhaps different than a lot of other

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businesses, by the way, where like someone can be an owner, but maybe not involved in the day to day.

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They don't, they might not have a presence in the rest of their company.

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Some people just own businesses, people work for them and they're never present.

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And they'll have like a CEO or a president run a company, right?

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You see what I'm saying? Whereas in our world, for the most part,

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these businesses get started generally by a person who is usually also the primary service provider.

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Me for example like I will I'm going to start a thing and also coach I'm going to be there so like I.

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I'm, I will have to be the, the first and in a lot of ways, maybe the most integral

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piece of creating culture.

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So, and as someone who's kind of, like you said, done this, uh,

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before and I've, you know, I've gone to a ton of other great places and I always

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pay attention to culture.

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Um, when, when I go into training environments and, um, I'm also very lucky

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that like the least of places I choose to cross train in our area.

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And like, again, in my travels for the most part, like

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having traveled quite a bit and popped into lots of gyms like it's very most

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of the time you see good nice welcoming strong

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cultures and like people who do that and then

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can still be competitive and high quality and like you know

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like tough dangerous good people uh competitive people

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quality martial arts is what i'm saying um but like still

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do all that and like like a really strong warm awesome cultural

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um community standard so i'm

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lucky to see a lot of that but like certainly in our area the

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guys who i spend a lot of time with where i go and i jump onto other mats

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like i'm thankfully i don't ever feel like i'm going to like a weird nasty

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environment um so but but

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i think that comes from like founders and and

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and the dudes who are and like it starts with the founder because the founders

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if it's you know using like that i guess a business hierarchy for the sake of

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this conversation um again most of the time that founder is also like usually

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doesn't always have to be, but usually like the head coach as well,

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that dude or that gal has, you know.

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Again, business thing, that person, that founder may not at certain X number

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of years into running the business be on the mat teaching every single class,

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but that guy or gal has chosen coaches.

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Who, and it's usually like, you know, be a handful of additional coaches who

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are mathematically maybe more present than that person, but they were chosen

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by that owner, which then that means that there's like a continuity of like cultural values.

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And these things I think are super important. like i've literally written down

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a whole list of values yeah like yeah like i could show it to you,

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i've got a list yeah because the stuff i think um i

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think it happens naturally in a lot of ways which i think i

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said i think it's just it's inherent in what we do that like

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a head coach or a team of

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like head coaches like senior coaches will come in

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and like what kind of bonded that group of people

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together to begin with um is

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some sort of like you know alignment and continuity of like hey like

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we all want to train really hard together want to laugh and

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have fun with our friends and um we want

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to be safe you know what i mean we want to do this one like push the gas you

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know get a good heart rate going like push push ourselves be competitive but

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like we're gonna like make some good friends along the way and that's i would

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say like probably 90 percent of like at least 90 that's like what every martial

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arts gym martial arts gym wants to do right so So this is like, I say that because like,

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that's why I see these things, the parallels everywhere I go, which is awesome.

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Like you said, this is an intimate thing. Like if you're going to go in like

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with another dude who at first you might not know very well.

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And like you guys like banging out and like you're gripping each other's chins

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and necks and like you're twisting it to like literally a breaking point.

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And the other guy has to like trust that like you're going to do that really

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hard, but like he's not going to like fully try to kill you,

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but like basically almost try to kill you. And then when you tap, they'll let go.

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They'll let go. Exactly. So like you do like embedded in what we do is like

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this like bonding, bonding experience and trust. And like, so it's intimate, dude.

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Like you get to like, you feel like you get to know. there are people it's

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funny who like i feel like i will only have relationships with in

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like a training environment who actually think i know on a deeper level than like some

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friends i've known for decades man which is funny

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to say um because i think just what the experience of

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what we're doing like it requires like you said some pretty deep trust values

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on like a base level um and there's like the shared struggle of like going to

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fucking battle on the mat or in tournaments really a lot in tournaments for

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me personally but on the mat for like day in day out like you see people like

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push themselves 13 minutes,

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is that what it took yeah that's hilarious dude we beat but fuck okay that's very funny um.

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13 minutes took us 13 minutes to bring up competition 13 minutes

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all right not bad i wasn't far off but anyways he

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he guessed 14 before the show it's totally i had

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to pop it in there didn't mean to do it but um anyways

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but yes like you you you i think there's like a like a it just it brings this

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is why we love this stuff like it kind of like you get to like there's there's

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something deep about all of it it's really fucking awesome well anyways but

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like back to what i was saying about like you have this group of people who

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you begin and kind of like in a lot of ways or like you know if they're senior

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ranked in the martial arts black belts or whatever.

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They set a culture um and it's like a bit of a like it's a beacon for like this

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is kind of like the standard of this is what we want to do and that attracts

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people to you like the people come in um this is a business like they're free

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to come they're free to go cancel your membership like you can come and you

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can go if it's not the right environment for you but like.

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Those the things i said earlier about like most of the time it's like we want

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to train really hard Want to make friends.

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We're going to be safe. That's usually what almost every gym should have that.

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If for whatever reason you guys feel like that's not the case,

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that could be like a red flag. We did a red flag episode a while back.

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But like almost everybody, even the red flag one, so they're probably making mistakes.

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Something's off. But like everyone wants those three things. Well, yeah.

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And even in those red flag ones, they still exist for a reason because the people

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that are in there are- Something's off.

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Okay with, right? Like they're okay with whatever is going on there.

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I mean, we've talked about on prior episodes, we brought up the immune system before, right?

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These are parts of the community conversation. Yeah. So like that immune system is cancerous.

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Yeah. And a lot of those things, right? Like it self-regulates.

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So if the people that are at the gym that are creating that,

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in a red flag scenario, the people that are at the gym creating that culture,

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they're maintaining that culture.

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And whoever decides to stay is going to stay.

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And, or they're brand new and they don't know any different and they just become

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enveloped in it. And, you know, the cancer metastasizes.

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Now there's more people that are believing, you know, believers in that culture.

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And they think that, oh, this is what gym culture is.

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And so like, you know, that, that comes top down there,

00:15:48.202 --> 00:15:52.122
just like you're saying, just like the other way around if those if a person

00:15:52.122 --> 00:15:58.262
from that would normally fit into that red flag gym comes over to your not red

00:15:58.262 --> 00:16:01.462
flag gym you know the one that is following our three our three,

00:16:02.002 --> 00:16:07.982
values our three goals um you know if they come over to that gym that gym weeds

00:16:07.982 --> 00:16:09.382
it out on its own right like.

00:16:10.366 --> 00:16:16.146
That person isn't going to last in that gym or they get flipped and they're

00:16:16.146 --> 00:16:19.526
like, oh no, like this is pretty, I like this better, you know?

00:16:19.746 --> 00:16:24.466
So, um, so yeah, I mean, I, this is absolutely like that top down,

00:16:24.726 --> 00:16:26.466
you know, gym owner starts it.

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And I just say generally it could be the coach as well. Like I just said,

00:16:30.506 --> 00:16:34.646
that's most of the time that owner is also, uh, we're the main coach. Right.

00:16:35.446 --> 00:16:39.086
Cause I, I've wanted to react to that too. I just say that actually it's a business

00:16:39.086 --> 00:16:41.226
thing, but like that was the reason why I brought up the differentiation between

00:16:41.226 --> 00:16:45.666
what we do and like what, like another business, you name it,

00:16:45.726 --> 00:16:46.466
random industry business.

00:16:47.386 --> 00:16:50.526
I actually think it comes from the people who are spending time on the mat. Yeah.

00:16:51.406 --> 00:16:55.766
It just happens to most of the time be the same person just because by nature

00:16:55.766 --> 00:16:59.806
of martial arts aren't started by like, you know, private equity funds,

00:17:00.086 --> 00:17:04.186
small, but they're not opening like a small 250 member gym in a random place.

00:17:04.486 --> 00:17:06.586
One off. It's just like, that's kind of the nature of this industry.

00:17:06.586 --> 00:17:09.746
It's like a person who usually, again, I'm sure there are exceptions,

00:17:09.966 --> 00:17:15.146
but usually it's like a guy or a gal with martial arts background decides, I want to do my own gym.

00:17:15.446 --> 00:17:18.306
And so like, they're usually that, they want to do it because they want to,

00:17:18.466 --> 00:17:21.706
it's like a passion thing, right? So like, they're going to be that same face.

00:17:21.746 --> 00:17:23.346
It just happens a lot of times to be that person.

00:17:24.046 --> 00:17:25.626
Sometimes it's, you know, a

00:17:25.626 --> 00:17:29.166
different coach, but I do think it comes from what takes place on the mat.

00:17:29.326 --> 00:17:34.326
Well, for a long time too, right? That person is probably the sole coach.

00:17:34.326 --> 00:17:39.026
I mean, maybe not as much anymore as it used to be, because now there's a lot

00:17:39.026 --> 00:17:42.106
more people with, that's better, Jesus Christ.

00:17:43.206 --> 00:17:44.966
Because a lot more people with.

00:17:46.807 --> 00:17:49.867
You know, higher rank and experience than there used to be. But I mean, you know,

00:17:50.327 --> 00:17:54.447
for a long period of time, you had one person, they would start a gym and they

00:17:54.447 --> 00:17:58.587
would coach every single class and they would only add classes as either they

00:17:58.587 --> 00:18:02.367
were able to make them or they promoted someone and felt comfortable enough

00:18:02.367 --> 00:18:06.247
with someone to take over that class, right? Or to add another class.

00:18:06.447 --> 00:18:13.287
And I like what you said about the, the, that like extension of values, right?

00:18:13.287 --> 00:18:17.467
The people that they select to be in those leadership roles,

00:18:17.827 --> 00:18:23.287
being an extension of that person's, they've chosen them to be there because

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they believe that person will continue on what they've done. Right.

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And in some cases too, I think I would argue that they select people,

00:18:36.687 --> 00:18:40.547
not because they, well, they, they do encompass all the values,

00:18:40.667 --> 00:18:45.307
but they might like accentuate certain aspects of them too.

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Right. Like you might have one guy that, that, Hey, this guy is.

00:18:51.470 --> 00:18:54.410
This guy is kind of like the competition one.

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And this one's kind of like the, you know, this person's really good is like,

00:19:00.330 --> 00:19:03.510
he's all about the technique and this person is all about, you know,

00:19:03.550 --> 00:19:07.990
and you can kind of get the, you know, my other guy, like this guy is the kid's guy.

00:19:08.130 --> 00:19:12.470
Like this guy is, you know, he, he's a teacher, like that's his passion.

00:19:12.470 --> 00:19:15.910
And he really like is able to create that scenario,

00:19:16.110 --> 00:19:20.150
that's that room and keep it safe and push the values to the kids and,

00:19:20.150 --> 00:19:23.110
you know uh translate that stuff and

00:19:23.110 --> 00:19:26.870
they start to like segment

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themselves and they're able to push these people out and have and

00:19:30.090 --> 00:19:34.510
continue the culture even though because i mean at gyms there's time there's

00:19:34.510 --> 00:19:38.010
different time slots right and some of those people never see each other and

00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:43.210
you're able to use those different coaches to you know there's other like i

00:19:43.210 --> 00:19:46.110
mean community leaders right at that point now you're talking about building

00:19:46.110 --> 00:19:48.590
teams and and absolutely you're Right.

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And by the way, that's like the cool thing about building teams.

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I do believe there has to be at least like, that's why like your full,

00:19:54.270 --> 00:19:58.430
your fundamental cultural values should be simple, easy to explain.

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And like, I'll say universal insofar as like, they can be broad,

00:20:05.150 --> 00:20:09.050
but also clearly defined like transparency and safety.

00:20:09.390 --> 00:20:12.230
There's like two just simple ones where like, we both, as long as we both understand

00:20:12.230 --> 00:20:14.070
what transparency means, like you're going to communicate with me,

00:20:14.130 --> 00:20:16.890
I'm going to communicate with you openly. We're going to keep our eyes and ears

00:20:16.890 --> 00:20:20.490
peeled on this community. And we want to make sure that our students and like

00:20:20.490 --> 00:20:23.270
parents of kids feel like they can transparently communicate with us.

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This is just an example, like easy to explain. It shouldn't limit that person.

00:20:28.821 --> 00:20:31.581
It's like safety. Like we're going to run a really safe class.

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While keeping it fun, competitive, and challenging, but it needs to be safe.

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We don't want people getting hurt.

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This is already kind of like a naturally tough, dangerous thing.

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I'm just giving you two examples. But like, yeah, like you want to give them

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like, you know, this is what we're about.

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Because like if you hire a guy that you really like, really good competitor

00:20:46.501 --> 00:20:48.201
or whatever, but like he's too dangerous.

00:20:48.461 --> 00:20:51.461
He's letting people get hurt too much. Like, ah, we didn't communicate that value.

00:20:51.861 --> 00:20:55.141
Let's just say that for the sake of this conversation that we communicate that very simply.

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You'd want like you said to

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bring in like four or five six seven other people who just

00:21:00.821 --> 00:21:03.961
they're on the same page with you on those values but then yeah go be

00:21:03.961 --> 00:21:06.861
uniquely different like i would even like you used

00:21:06.861 --> 00:21:09.781
great examples of like you got a competitor guy over here someone's great with kids someone

00:21:09.781 --> 00:21:12.741
who's good with like all levels martial arts techniques something like that all great

00:21:12.741 --> 00:21:15.681
things i would even maybe make it slightly more like

00:21:15.681 --> 00:21:18.761
personal and say like this person's just friendlier than me yeah like

00:21:18.761 --> 00:21:21.581
maybe you're just like a really warm like you but to your point

00:21:21.581 --> 00:21:24.561
like now you're allowing the differentiation of multiple different

00:21:24.561 --> 00:21:28.201
people to kind of show what makes them uniquely awesome whilst

00:21:28.201 --> 00:21:31.041
they're still culturally aligned with you um and hell

00:21:31.041 --> 00:21:33.861
yeah dude that's that's because that's the next thing like that that but

00:21:33.861 --> 00:21:36.861
i i believe it like it stems from the person who built the

00:21:36.861 --> 00:21:39.741
thing from the ground up but like it's like a seed like what plants what

00:21:39.741 --> 00:21:42.741
grows out of the seed like yeah those guys should have like again ultimately

00:21:42.741 --> 00:21:46.241
very simple baseline value alignment

00:21:46.241 --> 00:21:49.041
principle alignment and then it's like go be you because that's what's cool

00:21:49.041 --> 00:21:51.881
about this like i can't teach every single class

00:21:51.881 --> 00:21:55.781
i can't be on the mat every single hour um maybe i

00:21:55.781 --> 00:21:59.701
want to maybe i don't want to but i'm just i literally can't but like you four

00:21:59.701 --> 00:22:03.421
or five other folks you get you can't and like this is cool because you know

00:22:03.421 --> 00:22:07.381
i'll still be on the mat whatever my hours are and like people who want really

00:22:07.381 --> 00:22:10.561
want to get some time with me they can do that but like now they get access

00:22:10.561 --> 00:22:14.341
to you and you do stuff differently than me and that's great.

00:22:15.534 --> 00:22:19.734
You want that but yet like to your point like um i think you know you do your

00:22:19.734 --> 00:22:23.714
job as a community leader well um you enable people to kind of like again like

00:22:23.714 --> 00:22:26.434
there's there's some alignment there's like this is a smaller business thing

00:22:26.434 --> 00:22:29.614
but there's like some value in having like product consistency

00:22:30.054 --> 00:22:35.194
in a sense without too much like rigidity of like everyone does exactly this

00:22:35.194 --> 00:22:39.654
um like if i was like hey mike i want you to do monday wednesday friday or whatever

00:22:39.654 --> 00:22:40.614
and teach this class like Like,

00:22:40.714 --> 00:22:46.434
can you please follow certain broad guidelines, but then go make it Mike's.

00:22:46.834 --> 00:22:49.694
That's what I'm about. Like, I want, I think at the end of the day,

00:22:49.794 --> 00:22:53.034
like, especially when we coach guys, we may have even talked about this,

00:22:53.094 --> 00:22:53.954
but I'll mention on the show again.

00:22:54.074 --> 00:22:58.534
Like, I think ultimately, like, the job of instructors is number one,

00:22:58.674 --> 00:23:00.234
make people better, faster than we were.

00:23:00.594 --> 00:23:03.934
Like, we took all the work that we did for the 20, for the 40 years or whatever,

00:23:04.094 --> 00:23:06.454
whatever we're saying on the show now, 40 years of experience.

00:23:06.554 --> 00:23:09.354
Like, how do we distill that and then get the person paying us,

00:23:09.354 --> 00:23:14.434
our customer, to learn this stuff faster, ideally more efficiently than us.

00:23:16.065 --> 00:23:18.785
You know like that simply put there's that that's like the challenge of a coach right

00:23:18.785 --> 00:23:22.245
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00:23:22.245 --> 00:23:25.965
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00:23:55.565 --> 00:24:01.265
Crap mike so it's the efficiency right it's it's uh what is oh yeah i know what

00:24:01.265 --> 00:24:03.585
it was what i was gonna say it's rooted to the to the team thing which was the

00:24:03.585 --> 00:24:07.205
number two thing is like get these guys to figure out their own jiu-jitsu because

00:24:07.205 --> 00:24:11.305
jiu-jitsu it's called a martial art for a reason Like, so like the art part is like,

00:24:12.085 --> 00:24:14.805
yeah, I mean, we all are trying to in the game of jujitsu or like you could

00:24:14.805 --> 00:24:17.745
pick boxing or whatever. Like there's like limitations to where it's like boxing.

00:24:17.845 --> 00:24:20.745
You're in a punch, right? You're not, you're not doing heel hooks in boxing. Yeah.

00:24:21.025 --> 00:24:22.845
In jujitsu, we're going to do heel hooks, but we're not going to punch.

00:24:22.905 --> 00:24:25.565
Right. So there's like certain limitations, but within these limitations,

00:24:25.785 --> 00:24:29.825
there's so much diversity about a person can do. So it's about Mike Sutherland.

00:24:30.721 --> 00:24:33.601
Person x y and z figuring out their jiu-jitsu we

00:24:33.601 --> 00:24:36.421
are our job is like like as quickly as and efficiently as

00:24:36.421 --> 00:24:39.221
possible with all of our wisdom from our years um to

00:24:39.221 --> 00:24:42.521
do this as best as we can but we want to get that person to do their jiu-jitsu

00:24:42.521 --> 00:24:45.581
we're just providing them the guide the guidelines and early on

00:24:45.581 --> 00:24:48.401
we're telling a lot of specific stuff like do it like i say for

00:24:48.401 --> 00:24:51.041
a little while but ultimately it's like a kid on training wheels we want to like take the

00:24:51.041 --> 00:24:53.841
wheels on be like you can ride the bike now yeah we're trying to show them some

00:24:53.841 --> 00:24:56.561
you you're showing them things so they can they can

00:24:56.561 --> 00:24:59.461
they can learn it to figure out what they that's like

00:24:59.461 --> 00:25:03.141
that's why people it like CLA because it's like we're going to give you like just get enough

00:25:03.141 --> 00:25:06.421
knowledge to then be able to express this and learn it yourself because ultimately

00:25:06.421 --> 00:25:10.101
back to what we're saying about a team like you want five or six or seven like

00:25:10.101 --> 00:25:14.761
great coaches to like do it their way I don't want everyone speaking the exact

00:25:14.761 --> 00:25:17.341
way I speak if there's something I'm saying that might be beneficial to that

00:25:17.341 --> 00:25:21.501
person to like emulate great do it I'll be looking to them do that too I love

00:25:21.501 --> 00:25:24.341
watching the other guys who maybe don't rank as much as high as me.

00:25:25.491 --> 00:25:28.831
Like, I like hearing what they do. Dude, I'm trying to learn too.

00:25:29.011 --> 00:25:36.351
Well, it's good too because all of these people, you have so many different people in a gym, right?

00:25:36.471 --> 00:25:41.691
In these communities, jujitsu communities, where they all learn a little bit different.

00:25:41.731 --> 00:25:47.071
They all do things a little bit differently and they all have to move in a different way.

00:25:47.251 --> 00:25:51.051
Like, you might have a guy who, you might have one coach who's six foot five

00:25:51.051 --> 00:25:54.311
and can't do what me and you do as like guys under 5'10". Like they just,

00:25:54.491 --> 00:25:57.671
there's not enough room for them to move the same way.

00:25:57.851 --> 00:26:02.151
And like, you know, there's athletically, they're not going to do exactly what we do. Yeah.

00:26:02.491 --> 00:26:06.171
Yeah. For example, some people, you know, some there's guys have crazy mobility,

00:26:06.171 --> 00:26:08.251
some guys that can't move like at all.

00:26:08.431 --> 00:26:15.151
And, you know, like you have to have, you have to having these different people in, in these positions,

00:26:15.551 --> 00:26:19.631
these coaching positions allows them to, you know,

00:26:19.811 --> 00:26:22.651
translate your teaching into the

00:26:22.651 --> 00:26:25.731
way they do it into the way that someone else learns and

00:26:25.731 --> 00:26:28.731
then that person that student who's coming

00:26:28.731 --> 00:26:31.491
around can go to all these different classes and be like oh like

00:26:31.491 --> 00:26:35.591
well the way this person does jiu-jitsu is a little easier for me to learn i'm

00:26:35.591 --> 00:26:40.751
gonna go do it that way or hey like this coach is um i like the way that that

00:26:40.751 --> 00:26:44.531
coach you know i i feel like i can see myself doing it that way or i want to

00:26:44.531 --> 00:26:48.291
be able to do it the way that person does right and um that's where the variety,

00:26:48.411 --> 00:26:50.191
like you said. So there's value in that.

00:26:50.451 --> 00:26:53.411
And it also, there's value in having these different.

00:26:54.469 --> 00:26:57.709
People who have different personalities because different

00:26:57.709 --> 00:27:00.529
people who come into the gym are going to

00:27:00.529 --> 00:27:03.469
attach to these different personalities and you know for

00:27:03.469 --> 00:27:06.329
different reasons yeah yeah there might be a person that

00:27:06.329 --> 00:27:09.989
you know you're super friendly guy that might be off-putting to some people

00:27:09.989 --> 00:27:14.129
right like the guy that's like super warm friendly and welcoming obviously like

00:27:14.129 --> 00:27:17.829
fine but some people want the guy who doesn't talk to them very much you know

00:27:17.829 --> 00:27:22.189
like they want the guy who shows up teaches and you know acknowledges them still

00:27:22.189 --> 00:27:24.789
but you know some people like to be coached hard. Some people,

00:27:24.889 --> 00:27:25.549
yeah, you're right. You're.

00:27:26.751 --> 00:27:30.611
All roads point to, like you said, the variety of like different types who all

00:27:30.611 --> 00:27:31.871
have knowledge of the sport and like

00:27:31.871 --> 00:27:34.431
people will attach to these different individuals and that's a good thing.

00:27:34.431 --> 00:27:40.731
Yeah and having that shared and like you're saying having that shared value core keeps.

00:27:41.631 --> 00:27:49.371
Keeps the entirety as you know consistent you have this you have people that are all,

00:27:50.071 --> 00:27:53.951
thinking the same way feeling the same that's that's

00:27:53.951 --> 00:27:56.851
not the right terminology but you have all these people that

00:27:56.851 --> 00:27:59.991
have a shared shared core

00:27:59.991 --> 00:28:03.251
values that can all fit

00:28:03.251 --> 00:28:07.731
into this community in different ways because you

00:28:07.731 --> 00:28:10.591
know if one person just they don't like the way that

00:28:10.591 --> 00:28:13.671
one coach teaches but they

00:28:13.671 --> 00:28:16.551
like the way another or they just vibe better

00:28:16.551 --> 00:28:19.851
with a different you still have with a different coach you

00:28:19.851 --> 00:28:22.531
still have people that are able to

00:28:22.531 --> 00:28:25.571
come in that prefer different things or

00:28:25.571 --> 00:28:29.691
different learning methods different styles of

00:28:29.691 --> 00:28:32.411
teaching or jujitsu or whatever they're still able to

00:28:32.411 --> 00:28:35.311
come to your gym and they're still

00:28:35.311 --> 00:28:39.471
they still fit into the core values and well because again like that team was

00:28:39.471 --> 00:28:44.511
sanctioned yeah by the you know the decision maker i guess to use that like

00:28:44.511 --> 00:28:49.511
that framework but yes the initial architect kind of of the community right

00:28:49.511 --> 00:28:53.091
it's a part of that and and um i you could look at it another way if you want

00:28:53.091 --> 00:28:54.551
right if it starts like day one,

00:28:55.071 --> 00:28:58.151
you kind of you may have even kind of been alluding to this when you asked the question.

00:28:58.891 --> 00:29:03.911
Originally but like they won with a small crew you you come in and like it's

00:29:03.911 --> 00:29:07.631
like it's all on you you do it you do your job you have to put your best foot

00:29:07.631 --> 00:29:10.411
forward to these things and it's it's simple when you've done this for a long

00:29:10.411 --> 00:29:11.951
time because you just kind of you just do what you do

00:29:12.271 --> 00:29:14.511
do it the way you do it um and.

00:29:15.868 --> 00:29:18.368
It doesn't mean it's easy. They said it's simple. It's just like you just kind

00:29:18.368 --> 00:29:20.068
of be you, do the best you can.

00:29:20.168 --> 00:29:22.728
You try to provide the best service of making people better,

00:29:22.868 --> 00:29:28.908
faster than you, be nice, provide a safe environment, and ultimately getting

00:29:28.908 --> 00:29:32.448
them to learn longer. This is not a day one thing, but you get the idea.

00:29:32.548 --> 00:29:36.448
But it's like I'm trying to put this person on the path to figure out their own unique jiu-jitsu.

00:29:36.568 --> 00:29:41.288
And if we do our job in a couple years, maybe five, let's say four to eight

00:29:41.288 --> 00:29:43.628
years, get them to blue, purple, maybe brown belt.

00:29:43.628 --> 00:29:46.488
Some people ascertain like they're they start

00:29:46.488 --> 00:29:49.268
to learn enough jiu-jitsu around that tenure in my opinion they

00:29:49.268 --> 00:29:52.428
can at least they'll pick up elements of like what this

00:29:52.428 --> 00:29:55.628
is kind of the way i do jiu-jitsu like i don't wrestle as much as scott but

00:29:55.628 --> 00:29:59.008
i'm glad he made me do it for a while because it helped me learn that shit maybe

00:29:59.008 --> 00:30:01.448
i'm not really a wrestling style guy i'm more of a guard puller guy because

00:30:01.448 --> 00:30:07.768
these there's different ways to do it um but within like let's say three and

00:30:07.768 --> 00:30:11.528
a half four to like seven or eight years like yeah you'll start to understand

00:30:11.528 --> 00:30:14.228
yourself we want to get into that to where it's like you,

00:30:15.288 --> 00:30:19.368
this is why real quick on martial arts businesses, I don't think martial arts

00:30:19.368 --> 00:30:23.548
businesses charge enough money because we are putting people in a position in a good way.

00:30:23.928 --> 00:30:27.208
These guys are learning a serious skill. And if you, the more that person wants

00:30:27.208 --> 00:30:29.648
to invest in a man, what's stopped them from opening their own academy?

00:30:29.768 --> 00:30:30.448
It's like an apprenticeship.

00:30:32.243 --> 00:30:37.363
Damn it. Yeah. And there's solid core gyms out there and like people doing cycling

00:30:37.363 --> 00:30:40.843
classes who are charging like two times what we're charging or more, which makes me laugh.

00:30:40.923 --> 00:30:43.523
I'm like, we're providing a crazy good service. Whatever.

00:30:45.083 --> 00:30:49.223
Anyways, this is a crazy, it's such an, jujitsu is the best.

00:30:49.343 --> 00:30:51.403
It's a long step from where it used to be though.

00:30:51.663 --> 00:30:57.963
I remember people used to like at Nova, which had tons of stuff, by the way.

00:30:58.163 --> 00:31:01.043
$100 got you the entirety of that gym.

00:31:01.043 --> 00:31:03.923
Oh yes prices have increased and like for sure

00:31:03.923 --> 00:31:10.563
for sure i just think people used to gawk at that 100 like i well you're attracting

00:31:10.563 --> 00:31:14.003
customers when you charge 100 bucks yeah that's a fact but yeah you're right

00:31:14.003 --> 00:31:17.383
dude you're right it has but i think a little bit of that is cost of living

00:31:17.383 --> 00:31:21.103
has gone up it's actually like i just say like this this we people in martial

00:31:21.103 --> 00:31:22.063
arts tend to be very humble,

00:31:22.683 --> 00:31:25.303
and do not understand how valuable it is what they

00:31:25.303 --> 00:31:28.623
do um i'm not saying go out there and charge like a fucking arm and a leg but

00:31:28.623 --> 00:31:31.043
like you know have a little pride for like what we're doing is really unique

00:31:31.043 --> 00:31:36.283
and valuable but my sidebar comment my my distraction my my rabbit hole there

00:31:36.283 --> 00:31:39.303
was a derivation of like it starts off you want to do those jobs really well

00:31:39.303 --> 00:31:42.303
for people and it may start off with a small crew if you keep doing that for

00:31:42.303 --> 00:31:45.063
a while like you either maybe like a qualified,

00:31:45.643 --> 00:31:48.423
knowledgeable enough person you attract that person that come into your crew

00:31:48.423 --> 00:31:51.503
you vet them and you decide to the point of what we talked about earlier like

00:31:51.503 --> 00:31:55.063
oh i want to make you a part of the team that or you may just mentor someone

00:31:55.063 --> 00:31:59.843
you'll end up doing both if you do this long enough like you'll have like a white belt that came in.

00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.239
Loyal you get to know a person really well they go from white all the

00:32:04.239 --> 00:32:07.999
way to black belt underneath you um it's a cool opportunity you'll

00:32:07.999 --> 00:32:10.379
be able to do that and you'll be like you'll have like a trust you'll be like

00:32:10.379 --> 00:32:14.679
all right i know this guy or this gal like good person that's an important thing

00:32:14.679 --> 00:32:17.919
with with teammates like and you're gonna get that wrong sometimes like that's

00:32:17.919 --> 00:32:20.739
the other thing too i've been in this game for 21 years like you you'll make

00:32:20.739 --> 00:32:25.199
mistakes like yeah and i reference that because earlier you made a comment about like some of those like,

00:32:25.719 --> 00:32:31.019
well using the immune system metaphor for communities of like cancerous elements.

00:32:31.959 --> 00:32:35.479
Um it takes it's hard it takes

00:32:35.479 --> 00:32:38.399
a little bit of work to kind of figure out when you're like you have to make a hard call on

00:32:38.399 --> 00:32:42.339
someone maybe you've known for a while or like a person that like came in looked

00:32:42.339 --> 00:32:45.019
like a normal person early on but then like now i'm getting some weird vibes or

00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:47.919
i got some weird feedback from someone someone came to me and told me something and then

00:32:47.919 --> 00:32:50.839
a second person validated that like i think

00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.659
i kind of like that that guy or that gal but like i gotta do something about it

00:32:53.659 --> 00:32:57.259
so there's challenges to it but like you you back to

00:32:57.259 --> 00:32:59.879
the like the the cancerous like the red flag scenarios environments like you

00:32:59.879 --> 00:33:02.759
gotta like the the person you know

00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.439
in with the appropriate team they will

00:33:06.439 --> 00:33:09.179
help you too staff members will help you if there's like an employee or

00:33:09.179 --> 00:33:11.879
like a sub coach junior coach that's like doing something that's

00:33:11.879 --> 00:33:14.519
a little bit off and like you but the decision maker at the end of the day has to

00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.639
be like constantly vigilant to do the hard thing when it's necessary

00:33:17.639 --> 00:33:22.099
because there's gonna be hard um hard scenarios

00:33:22.099 --> 00:33:25.599
you'll have challenging scenarios you'll have to deal with um well it's

00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.779
your job it's your obligation to face the hard things and make the hard calls

00:33:29.779 --> 00:33:35.699
um and that gets easier well and keeping if you know your values yeah if you

00:33:35.699 --> 00:33:38.459
know your values like this person broke a value that sometimes it's better when

00:33:38.459 --> 00:33:42.679
it's like a binary thing you're like yo no emotion about it as hard as this is like value broken.

00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:48.639
Decision made well and as in the not making the decision to get rid of them

00:33:48.639 --> 00:33:53.739
is making a decision to change your community and the culture of that gym too.

00:33:53.939 --> 00:33:59.839
It will destroy your culture. You're deciding that, hey, keeping that guy around

00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:01.379
is more important than...

00:34:02.698 --> 00:34:07.138
Whatever that value was that they're violating, right?

00:34:07.238 --> 00:34:12.778
And so now you've just changed the culture of your gym probably irreparably.

00:34:13.018 --> 00:34:16.338
Potentially destroying it in the long run. You're avoiding doing a small,

00:34:16.498 --> 00:34:20.138
challenging thing, small, medium, to give, I guess, a person credit in a tough

00:34:20.138 --> 00:34:22.078
situation, small, medium, challenge.

00:34:22.398 --> 00:34:25.658
That could fuck you in the long run. Sometimes you've developed,

00:34:25.658 --> 00:34:31.678
you know, long, over a long period of time, you developed a relationship with this person.

00:34:31.818 --> 00:34:36.558
That's right. To where like, oh, well, like, you know, I've known this guy for five, six years.

00:34:36.978 --> 00:34:40.558
He's trained under me for that entire time. And like, oh, yeah,

00:34:40.598 --> 00:34:42.778
I don't really want to get rid of them.

00:34:42.878 --> 00:34:46.518
But then you have to you have to look at it and be like, if I don't get rid

00:34:46.518 --> 00:34:50.498
of them, what happens next? What's the cost of that? Yeah. Yeah. It's tremendous.

00:34:50.838 --> 00:34:56.718
Probably a lot of these other people that you're, that one are from a business

00:34:56.718 --> 00:34:58.738
standpoint are paying members of your gym.

00:34:58.878 --> 00:35:04.178
They are a part of your income, but also like these people that are,

00:35:04.398 --> 00:35:08.698
you know, this is the community you've built and they leave.

00:35:08.858 --> 00:35:10.258
They're going to go somewhere else.

00:35:10.458 --> 00:35:13.158
Your community's, your community's going to shift.

00:35:13.378 --> 00:35:17.378
Now you have this guy. Everybody knows you still have this guy still here. Yeah.

00:35:18.083 --> 00:35:21.403
They, and especially if most of them have seen what happened,

00:35:21.543 --> 00:35:26.083
someone might still stay, but now that, that culture shifts. Oh, you're right, man.

00:35:26.943 --> 00:35:29.483
And it could be that they stay. Cause like, you know what? I'm.

00:35:29.843 --> 00:35:31.823
They might just turn it off and just be like, you know what?

00:35:31.843 --> 00:35:34.603
I'm just going to show up and do jujitsu and everything else, whatever.

00:35:34.903 --> 00:35:39.143
Right. And there's to, to, yeah. And this, by the way, um, which then there's

00:35:39.143 --> 00:35:40.583
no culture or community at the gym.

00:35:40.723 --> 00:35:43.183
It's just a gym. No, it's a recipe for disaster, what you're describing.

00:35:43.343 --> 00:35:47.003
And I guess I'll say a couple of things, but the first one is that like,

00:35:47.003 --> 00:35:49.843
this is also like a i feel like an hr like management and

00:35:49.843 --> 00:35:52.523
not like an like nasty sorted things happening but like this is

00:35:52.523 --> 00:35:55.263
like business management one-on-one where it's like in a

00:35:55.263 --> 00:35:58.023
case of a good management in the business environment it's like

00:35:58.023 --> 00:36:00.883
if if employees see a boss allowing a

00:36:00.883 --> 00:36:04.583
bad employee to get away with things it kills morale yeah to your

00:36:04.583 --> 00:36:07.483
point like if like people know that decision maker allowed a

00:36:07.483 --> 00:36:10.243
thing to continue didn't address it whether it's removing that person or

00:36:10.243 --> 00:36:13.143
just reprimanding like just just disciplining maybe it's just that maybe

00:36:13.143 --> 00:36:15.803
it's just fixing a problem but if you allow bad things to

00:36:15.803 --> 00:36:18.663
continue oh it'll ruin things for

00:36:18.663 --> 00:36:21.823
the group that's just like this is an observable human pattern like business

00:36:21.823 --> 00:36:25.003
probably business in group environments and this is really what we're talking

00:36:25.003 --> 00:36:30.243
about here um and yeah it's this that's the job of the decision maker to to

00:36:30.243 --> 00:36:34.603
handle that and uh to not do it is that's literally this that's the sin of omission

00:36:34.603 --> 00:36:38.343
yeah that you committing the sin of you're choosing to not respond to a problem it's

00:36:38.443 --> 00:36:45.023
gonna make things way worse um no action is still inaction is is kind of a form

00:36:45.023 --> 00:36:49.463
of action right yeah exactly it's it's it's dangerous deleterious to to your

00:36:49.463 --> 00:36:54.963
success into your community um and look man like this sounds hard because it

00:36:54.963 --> 00:36:57.303
is it's not for everyone like dude being in this position is not.

00:36:58.593 --> 00:37:03.933
I wouldn't envy people do it. I mean, I like it. I have, I'm committed to doing it. I enjoy it.

00:37:04.373 --> 00:37:07.453
Um, it's not for everyone. It's like, you gotta be willing to do some,

00:37:07.593 --> 00:37:08.773
like, you gotta be willing to get your hands dirty.

00:37:09.233 --> 00:37:12.913
Um, but again, it sounds like, like it gets easier.

00:37:13.393 --> 00:37:17.433
Like I said, if you, that's why the values and principles part of culture, it's good.

00:37:17.833 --> 00:37:20.953
Glad you brought this up. This is a good subject, Mike. Um, it's really important.

00:37:21.153 --> 00:37:24.593
Like the, the more you have to like really believe that you gotta be one,

00:37:24.633 --> 00:37:28.173
like fight for it. Cause like that shit, if you do that, right.

00:37:28.593 --> 00:37:32.093
Back to what we were saying about team, not that I would say myself or anyone

00:37:32.093 --> 00:37:36.433
who founded and owns a thing and is completely committed to it.

00:37:37.573 --> 00:37:40.833
This is another business thing, which a good manager makes himself replaceable.

00:37:41.948 --> 00:37:45.188
In a good way so it's like if you do such a good job and you really adhere

00:37:45.188 --> 00:37:48.408
to those values and like your team gets it

00:37:48.408 --> 00:37:51.348
there you might be able to hire and

00:37:51.348 --> 00:37:54.468
get three to four people do it better than you like you know what honestly you

00:37:54.468 --> 00:38:00.948
guys got it i'm gonna go do my next adventure but like you should try to create

00:38:00.948 --> 00:38:05.148
an environment a business a culture where it's like you doing such a good job

00:38:05.148 --> 00:38:08.488
on the values and like your team the people who work for you they really get

00:38:08.488 --> 00:38:12.068
it and they're great people shit they might be able to do it better than you man,

00:38:12.648 --> 00:38:15.268
like I might be making a mess just getting in the way here.

00:38:16.508 --> 00:38:19.568
Especially if you want to do that I just kind of finished one thing that's why

00:38:19.568 --> 00:38:23.608
I was saying like that is so critical at the foundational of the values part

00:38:23.608 --> 00:38:25.488
and that's why I said doing the hard part becomes easier because you're like,

00:38:26.028 --> 00:38:28.608
you just have to almost like fucking like autistically be like did you violate

00:38:28.608 --> 00:38:34.108
the rule dealt with because if you can't allow yourself to get drawn emotionally and like.

00:38:36.248 --> 00:38:39.348
Emotionally I guess is the word like into like this debate about it because

00:38:39.348 --> 00:38:40.388
it's either like it's binary.

00:38:40.828 --> 00:38:42.608
Like, not that you need to be like a psychopath. It's sort of like,

00:38:42.668 --> 00:38:43.688
hey, you still handle that.

00:38:43.828 --> 00:38:47.048
Like, well, what's the problem? Can we resolve this? But if you see that there's

00:38:47.048 --> 00:38:50.588
a problem that needs to be reconciled, deal with it on a core level.

00:38:51.208 --> 00:38:54.648
This is my opinion on that because like what you're doing, you're building a

00:38:54.648 --> 00:38:55.888
community. This stuff is important, man.

00:38:56.308 --> 00:38:58.968
It's important. Like, if you founded the company, like if you did it,

00:38:59.048 --> 00:39:00.108
like you should fucking care.

00:39:00.588 --> 00:39:03.308
Yeah, I mean. You could lose a lot. We've talked about episodes where dudes

00:39:03.308 --> 00:39:04.968
have gone off and done some nasty stuff.

00:39:05.568 --> 00:39:09.688
The abuse episodes where it's like, I don't get how these guys – are so dumb

00:39:09.688 --> 00:39:12.428
they would do something that like just destroys everything they ever built,

00:39:13.366 --> 00:39:16.046
You couldn't figure, I mean, there's so many things wrong with people doing

00:39:16.046 --> 00:39:17.246
that, I can't get in their heads.

00:39:17.386 --> 00:39:24.306
Yeah, outside of just, if you just, you can't separate them from what they did.

00:39:24.406 --> 00:39:25.966
There's something awry in their mind.

00:39:26.086 --> 00:39:29.086
Obviously, the thing they did is terrible, but like, how do you not?

00:39:29.106 --> 00:39:33.126
Their decision-making framework internally is clearly not that put together.

00:39:33.266 --> 00:39:37.586
But like, yes, my point of that is, did you not consider that this momentary

00:39:37.586 --> 00:39:40.666
decision that might feel good for, I don't know, a couple minutes.

00:39:41.866 --> 00:39:44.226
Will fuck everything you've done for your entire life.

00:39:44.446 --> 00:39:46.766
Like, why didn't you think about that? So that's my way of saying,

00:39:46.866 --> 00:39:49.046
like, yo, man, like this, I'm in too deep. I've invested too much.

00:39:49.086 --> 00:39:51.266
I care too much. I'm not going to allow someone to destroy this for me.

00:39:51.446 --> 00:39:54.306
Yeah, it's decision made. Yeah, it's done.

00:39:55.066 --> 00:39:57.606
It doesn't mean it's not easy. It doesn't mean like everything doesn't need

00:39:57.606 --> 00:39:59.206
to be like everything I'm describing.

00:39:59.346 --> 00:40:02.546
It's not like, you know, everything looks like a nail or everything.

00:40:02.726 --> 00:40:03.966
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like nothing.

00:40:04.246 --> 00:40:06.886
You smash around, but it's like, yo, you got to be willing to be like,

00:40:07.626 --> 00:40:09.486
this is not something I'm going to ignore.

00:40:09.486 --> 00:40:12.606
You have you have to be willing to stand up

00:40:12.606 --> 00:40:15.886
for your values and protect protect

00:40:15.886 --> 00:40:19.286
the community you're building right like it just

00:40:19.286 --> 00:40:22.466
that is what you're doing especially in

00:40:22.466 --> 00:40:26.486
this space like we alluded to at the beginning like you're building

00:40:26.486 --> 00:40:29.326
a community that you care about you're passionate about

00:40:29.326 --> 00:40:32.246
the thing you all have shared values whether that's

00:40:32.246 --> 00:40:35.546
just you know you all have a shared goal and task

00:40:35.546 --> 00:40:38.626
even though you might all have slightly different goals

00:40:38.626 --> 00:40:41.766
within that the goal at the end of the day is the

00:40:41.766 --> 00:40:44.826
same thing which is learn and improve at jujitsu

00:40:44.826 --> 00:40:50.266
right like that's one part of the goal that everybody shares and ideally because

00:40:50.266 --> 00:40:54.566
you're all in the same space you have the same values you have the same you

00:40:54.566 --> 00:40:58.846
know you all want you all want to be safe get better you know like you all want

00:40:58.846 --> 00:41:02.966
the same thing in train hard you all want the same things and uh.

00:41:04.076 --> 00:41:09.916
And so, you know, once it's built, it should be easy to maintain. Well, and that's, yes.

00:41:10.396 --> 00:41:12.616
Can I just add to that? I'm sorry to cut you off. I know I'm regretting.

00:41:12.776 --> 00:41:15.436
But, like, dude, that's important, too.

00:41:15.516 --> 00:41:19.836
Because, like I said earlier, it's like you, the, if you do that basic thing,

00:41:19.916 --> 00:41:21.416
and I'm being very hawkish on it.

00:41:21.536 --> 00:41:24.196
Like, this doesn't have to, like, it's like an obsessive. Maybe it is an obsessive

00:41:24.196 --> 00:41:26.196
thing for me. But I am hawkish on it. But, like.

00:41:27.491 --> 00:41:30.071
It's a doable thing like you can do that i'm making it sound like you

00:41:30.071 --> 00:41:32.751
gotta fight your fucking life there are times where you will have to but like

00:41:32.751 --> 00:41:35.611
for the most part it's kind of like normal it's easy it's just like being you

00:41:35.611 --> 00:41:38.431
keeping it cool like hey this is what we're about here

00:41:38.431 --> 00:41:41.371
like it's actually relatively simple and most of the time like

00:41:41.371 --> 00:41:44.151
very manageable and like if you do a good job at that you bring in

00:41:44.151 --> 00:41:46.751
the right people and you bring the right students because we

00:41:46.751 --> 00:41:49.431
haven't talked about students enough at all we're gonna get to the students but what

00:41:49.431 --> 00:41:52.331
that was my way of kind of putting a like kind of i guess a bow on that concept

00:41:52.331 --> 00:41:55.631
of like dude like the entity in the community will kind of become its own thing

00:41:55.631 --> 00:41:59.671
and that's a good thing because you kind of want like we said earlier you want

00:41:59.671 --> 00:42:03.091
that you want to like develop and cultivate that immune system so that like

00:42:03.091 --> 00:42:07.171
good coaches good new coaches even good just senior students might not officially

00:42:07.171 --> 00:42:11.211
be coaches but they sub and they kind of have that leadership posture who set a good example

00:42:11.591 --> 00:42:14.411
everything about this is also all about setting a good example and like adhering to

00:42:14.411 --> 00:42:17.131
that and being like this is what we have to do and like you

00:42:17.131 --> 00:42:19.791
know just correct some things that need to be corrected and mostly just kind of encourage people to

00:42:19.791 --> 00:42:22.651
keep doing that and like people thankfully what i see in my

00:42:22.651 --> 00:42:25.791
travels from jiu-jitsu i've seen at your academy it's in good places people pick

00:42:25.791 --> 00:42:28.751
up on this stuff naturally most normal people are like hell yeah this is

00:42:28.751 --> 00:42:31.991
easy i love this it's not that hard it's

00:42:31.991 --> 00:42:34.771
just when people make mistakes it can be kind of hard people make

00:42:34.771 --> 00:42:38.071
mistakes people make mistakes but you want to be able to like set it up so like

00:42:38.071 --> 00:42:43.411
you said the students the junior coaches the senior coaches they all they all

00:42:43.411 --> 00:42:46.091
they know they know what the mission is and we're all we're all doing that and

00:42:46.091 --> 00:42:50.431
then like the entity kind of just can has its own legs it takes care of itself

00:42:50.431 --> 00:42:52.311
Well, yeah, I mean, like, essentially.

00:42:52.731 --> 00:42:57.131
When you have the trial period for a new student, right, it's not really them

00:42:57.131 --> 00:42:59.151
trying out the gym, it's the gym trying out them.

00:42:59.311 --> 00:43:02.611
That's kind of a part of how it should go, right?

00:43:02.711 --> 00:43:07.191
Obviously, they're also trying out the gym, but, I mean, every time there's

00:43:07.191 --> 00:43:10.931
trial students, Jason's like, what do you think of that guy?

00:43:10.931 --> 00:43:15.071
I'm like, you know, it's, it's usually like 99% of the time it's,

00:43:15.131 --> 00:43:19.031
oh yeah, no, like that guy's going to fit in great here. Good. Right. You know, and.

00:43:20.568 --> 00:43:23.468
So he cares about who's coming into his community.

00:43:23.628 --> 00:43:29.128
Yeah, but you know, that's an example of like the community will handle itself

00:43:29.128 --> 00:43:31.028
if you have built it the right way.

00:43:31.308 --> 00:43:36.928
And, you know, those new people coming in, someone will, if you have a guy who

00:43:36.928 --> 00:43:39.448
comes in and, you know, they're going to treat every,

00:43:39.888 --> 00:43:44.168
they're going to go after the, if you have an 18 year old comes in,

00:43:44.268 --> 00:43:48.928
he treats a role with a 56 year old, like it's ADCC world finals.

00:43:49.108 --> 00:43:52.708
Yeah. That handles itself really fast if you have the right people there, right?

00:43:52.848 --> 00:43:56.768
Like that dude does it and then everybody, it doesn't become a,

00:43:56.968 --> 00:43:58.388
you know, just those two.

00:43:58.568 --> 00:44:03.548
Everyone's on it like, hey dude, we don't do that here. That's right. It's good teammates.

00:44:03.888 --> 00:44:09.408
Yeah. So, you know, that community can really be built to where,

00:44:09.488 --> 00:44:11.528
you know, you have a family on the mats.

00:44:13.048 --> 00:44:18.488
And those people, because you share those things. Um, now we've talked a lot

00:44:18.488 --> 00:44:20.768
about, you know, hierarchy, hierarchy,

00:44:21.888 --> 00:44:25.668
Jesus Christ, hierarchically, hierarchy, hierarchies, the, you know,

00:44:25.708 --> 00:44:29.928
like how from the top and how it kind of trickles down, um, you know,

00:44:29.988 --> 00:44:35.048
like the coaches, they develop their own, their own little, you know.

00:44:36.628 --> 00:44:37.948
Micro culture within the culture.

00:44:37.948 --> 00:44:40.548
You know it's just an extension of the culture is a

00:44:40.548 --> 00:44:43.388
better way to put it it should end up being an extension of

00:44:43.388 --> 00:44:48.128
the culture where like that becomes hey you know like you have the guy who goes

00:44:48.128 --> 00:44:53.448
that you know hey we're going to do hard training that guy is and then that

00:44:53.448 --> 00:45:00.068
leads to the students who want the hard training now those students also have

00:45:00.068 --> 00:45:03.208
a say in how the culture develops, right?

00:45:03.608 --> 00:45:07.928
And whether, because they're going to tell their friends and their friends are

00:45:07.928 --> 00:45:09.648
going to come in trained or they're going to come in.

00:45:10.423 --> 00:45:16.023
The new trial student that comes in, I'm going to use indoctrinating again because

00:45:16.023 --> 00:45:17.363
they will indoctrinate them.

00:45:17.883 --> 00:45:24.563
There's an indoctrination period. Yeah, that's like a normal systems community.

00:45:24.703 --> 00:45:26.023
Military uses this and shit like that.

00:45:26.183 --> 00:45:30.203
Indoctrination is a systematic way of letting people know this is what we expect

00:45:30.203 --> 00:45:31.943
in this community. This is what we expect in this culture.

00:45:32.283 --> 00:45:36.743
Yeah, and so for people hearing that, we're not doing Zoolander MKUltra.

00:45:36.843 --> 00:45:40.723
We put a video like, Like, you've been inducted, like, kill the Malaysian prime minister.

00:45:40.923 --> 00:45:43.463
Like, it's not that, although maybe it should be.

00:45:43.743 --> 00:45:46.923
But it's a totally normal thing.

00:45:47.183 --> 00:45:49.663
Yeah. And like a group of business, like a new, like, hey, you're coming in

00:45:49.663 --> 00:45:52.503
here like this. We need to kind of break you in to like what we're about.

00:45:52.823 --> 00:45:57.803
Yeah. And I think that becomes the major role of the students, right, to really.

00:45:58.283 --> 00:46:01.743
They're the best way to do it. There's a portion of it that does come from like

00:46:01.743 --> 00:46:05.103
the coach because they're providing instruction. And there's a portion of it

00:46:05.103 --> 00:46:08.603
that comes from the interaction with the gym owner or, you know.

00:46:09.183 --> 00:46:10.623
The sales staff, whatever, right?

00:46:10.723 --> 00:46:14.643
Like there's, there is that part, but the students definitely,

00:46:15.083 --> 00:46:22.963
I think they play a major role in that like initial phase because they're,

00:46:23.083 --> 00:46:27.123
they're frontline ambassadors for the culture. Yeah. And they're interacting with this.

00:46:27.563 --> 00:46:34.763
They are more in most cases directly interacting with the new individual more

00:46:34.763 --> 00:46:37.303
like in a higher frequency than a coach is.

00:46:37.423 --> 00:46:42.463
Right. Like the coach is still right in front of them and instructing,

00:46:42.603 --> 00:46:47.803
but he's not necessarily like, well, look, can I just, yeah,

00:46:47.983 --> 00:46:51.483
what you're saying, dude, is like, look, when you're teaching a class with 25, 30 people.

00:46:52.329 --> 00:46:55.749
You've got 25, 30 in your, most times it's like one coach. Maybe there's an

00:46:55.749 --> 00:47:00.169
assistant coach, but like even at best two people, you're expected to like, you can't watch it.

00:47:00.589 --> 00:47:05.949
If you had 30 people, there's two guys, it's 15, ideally 15 students to,

00:47:05.949 --> 00:47:08.329
to, to teach a ratio. That's a lot of people to watch.

00:47:08.669 --> 00:47:12.629
So like you said, the student, I'm going to flip that scenario around and you

00:47:12.629 --> 00:47:17.189
like, maybe it's like the student, the trial guy comes in and one of the experienced

00:47:17.189 --> 00:47:20.289
students treats it like ADCC and beats the fuck out of the trial guy.

00:47:20.289 --> 00:47:23.249
And the trial guy might not tell you why he's not going to sign up that night.

00:47:23.329 --> 00:47:24.289
He would just be like, eh, it wasn't for me.

00:47:24.429 --> 00:47:26.769
Or, you know, I think I'm going to... I'll call you in a couple days.

00:47:27.269 --> 00:47:29.189
They're not just going to tell you. That dude kicked my ass.

00:47:29.189 --> 00:47:30.629
I didn't like this. This place sucks.

00:47:30.969 --> 00:47:35.749
But he might be thinking that. So to your point, like, yeah, that person...

00:47:36.944 --> 00:47:39.724
Coming in we want the coach who's coaching them to like

00:47:39.724 --> 00:47:42.604
be really you know charming and educational and smart

00:47:42.604 --> 00:47:46.004
and like provide a good class but i would

00:47:46.004 --> 00:47:49.304
venture to guess like you're saying that trial

00:47:49.304 --> 00:47:52.704
guy the person he gets paired with first and then maybe the second person gets

00:47:52.704 --> 00:47:55.604
paired with that's how they make the decision like what's this other dude like

00:47:55.604 --> 00:47:59.604
is this gonna kick my fucking ass are we so far off or is this guy like this

00:47:59.604 --> 00:48:03.684
guy's pretty cool he made we we have i have like select students i'm like yo

00:48:03.684 --> 00:48:06.324
man help this guy give him like a good experience like oh Oh yeah,

00:48:06.424 --> 00:48:10.084
there's guys who are like, you know, I'm going to pair him with him. Yes.

00:48:10.464 --> 00:48:14.964
Because he's actually going to take the time, he's going to explain what's going

00:48:14.964 --> 00:48:18.944
on, one, so I don't have to, you know, hey, we're going to do the- You still

00:48:18.944 --> 00:48:20.064
have 30 people to coach, bro.

00:48:20.264 --> 00:48:23.064
Hey, this is what we have right now. Like, this is what we're doing today.

00:48:23.204 --> 00:48:27.504
I don't have, I can't go over day one stuff right now.

00:48:27.664 --> 00:48:29.924
A thousand percent. Like, you know, as much as I would love to.

00:48:30.184 --> 00:48:33.464
Like, but, you know, I wish we had that time.

00:48:33.824 --> 00:48:36.284
That's not what the class is structured for. Yeah, it's, you know,

00:48:36.384 --> 00:48:40.764
we have, I have to, I have these, everyone else I have to handle.

00:48:40.764 --> 00:48:41.684
The greater good, Michael.

00:48:43.964 --> 00:48:47.464
But, you know, I can put them with, there's people you can put them with.

00:48:47.584 --> 00:48:52.944
Usually it's a senior belt or someone who, sometimes it's someone who's maybe

00:48:52.944 --> 00:49:00.984
the most recently new person who has become, who's now like understood some stuff.

00:49:01.284 --> 00:49:03.704
Hey, I was in your, I was in your boots six months ago, man.

00:49:03.824 --> 00:49:06.944
Let me, yeah, I'll help you out. Yeah. It's a great way to do it sometimes.

00:49:07.204 --> 00:49:11.904
Yeah, and it also makes that person feel good, by the way, because they get

00:49:11.904 --> 00:49:12.924
to be better than somebody.

00:49:14.464 --> 00:49:15.764
But yeah, I mean, so...

00:49:16.986 --> 00:49:21.386
So yeah, you have to have these people because you can't give them to the guy

00:49:21.386 --> 00:49:22.866
who's competing next weekend because

00:49:22.866 --> 00:49:26.666
he's in a whole different world than everybody else right now as well.

00:49:28.006 --> 00:49:36.406
But yeah, I mean, that's a perfect example of how the students start building that community, right?

00:49:36.506 --> 00:49:42.046
I mean, they're teaching this person what we do here, like how we handle things,

00:49:42.226 --> 00:49:45.666
how we exist as training partners.

00:49:45.666 --> 00:49:49.586
Like they're teaching that person how to do that just through the way that they're

00:49:49.586 --> 00:49:54.366
interacting with them in, in those first, you know, in that first,

00:49:54.526 --> 00:49:58.426
however long some people, some gyms is one day, some is seven.

00:49:58.746 --> 00:50:02.746
Whatever, you know, whatever your trial period is, that interaction with those

00:50:02.746 --> 00:50:07.586
students is going to directly impact how they are as a student.

00:50:07.846 --> 00:50:12.066
Hey, and a hundred percent it's, and it's not just like, Hey,

00:50:12.146 --> 00:50:13.526
can we convince this new guy to sign up?

00:50:13.586 --> 00:50:16.326
It's like, Hey, can we hopefully get this guy to want to stay here for two to

00:50:16.326 --> 00:50:19.166
three to four years yeah so like you were saying earlier it's

00:50:19.166 --> 00:50:22.686
not just like it's not just that first trial because a person

00:50:22.686 --> 00:50:25.526
might sign up for a month a month i mean again like

00:50:25.526 --> 00:50:28.666
hopefully a month a month for 225 bucks you

00:50:28.666 --> 00:50:31.446
know you know it's a one month like trial period basically

00:50:31.446 --> 00:50:34.986
yeah it's like that's not like people will do that it's

00:50:34.986 --> 00:50:37.786
great it's like good for business like but like you need them to

00:50:37.786 --> 00:50:40.746
want to stay for another 90 90 days and

00:50:40.746 --> 00:50:46.726
then nine more months and then ideally nine more years like you want to it's

00:50:46.726 --> 00:50:54.906
a continual process um it's a yeah it's it it's a job that's all like it's you

00:50:54.906 --> 00:50:58.586
know it's a hard job but it gets easier and um you know if you care.

00:50:59.495 --> 00:51:03.875
She care. You should care. Yeah. You should care. You'd be surprised how many

00:51:03.875 --> 00:51:05.915
people don't think about this stuff, Mike. Yeah.

00:51:06.355 --> 00:51:08.995
Like coaches. I might be less surprised than anything.

00:51:09.715 --> 00:51:12.275
You're right. You've been around. I've been in this for a while.

00:51:12.655 --> 00:51:13.635
You're right. You're right. You're right.

00:51:13.715 --> 00:51:17.795
I've been in multiple sides of it. True, true, true, true. Fair enough. Fair enough.

00:51:18.235 --> 00:51:20.895
Yeah. I mean, all that to say, right?

00:51:21.055 --> 00:51:27.275
Like, I mean, for people that are interested in opening or running a gym,

00:51:27.595 --> 00:51:34.715
like. Or being a good ambassador at whatever level of the team you're on.

00:51:34.795 --> 00:51:37.235
If you just want more training partners. Yeah.

00:51:37.555 --> 00:51:41.275
Wherever you sit in this environment, it's really important.

00:51:43.475 --> 00:51:49.315
I should say you should want to represent the team at whatever tier you're at,

00:51:49.415 --> 00:51:51.455
man, to the best of your ability.

00:51:51.735 --> 00:51:57.375
Yeah, because the martial arts doesn't sell itself anymore. There's too many gyms.

00:51:57.795 --> 00:52:00.695
Right? There's enough gyms around that they can get it somewhere.

00:52:00.815 --> 00:52:02.735
Oh, that's true. There's a lot of good options, like you said.

00:52:02.795 --> 00:52:07.175
Yeah. It might get them, like you said, it might get them to stay for a couple months, maybe a year.

00:52:07.275 --> 00:52:11.955
They might do that first year contract and then they'll, maybe they quit the

00:52:11.955 --> 00:52:15.855
art altogether or they go find somewhere that is a more enjoyable community

00:52:15.855 --> 00:52:16.915
and environment for them.

00:52:17.575 --> 00:52:21.355
But if you have the right community and the right culture at your gym,

00:52:21.655 --> 00:52:27.455
those people will stay there until they, I mean in this area until they perish or die yeah

00:52:27.855 --> 00:52:32.855
or until like they can't do it anymore or they move away like around here that's

00:52:32.855 --> 00:52:35.255
a big portion of it what you're saying is like you want to get into where they're

00:52:35.255 --> 00:52:38.655
like dude I love this place I don't want to leave yeah they want to stay at

00:52:38.655 --> 00:52:40.235
that place they want to stay they want to,

00:52:41.131 --> 00:52:44.271
They want to be a part of that community. They want to train with those people,

00:52:44.451 --> 00:52:45.391
hang out with those people.

00:52:46.291 --> 00:52:51.431
I mean, heck, if you're doing it right, there's people that will stay signed

00:52:51.431 --> 00:52:54.731
up at your gym and show up whenever, like randomly.

00:52:56.151 --> 00:53:02.631
Because they like the culture enough that they're okay giving you money every

00:53:02.631 --> 00:53:04.231
month and showing up like once a month.

00:53:04.371 --> 00:53:06.471
A thousand percent. You know? We used to have people who would like show up

00:53:06.471 --> 00:53:09.131
maybe once a month to train, but would come to like every happy hour,

00:53:09.191 --> 00:53:11.351
like all the team fun events. So they're like, fuck yeah.

00:53:11.531 --> 00:53:13.571
It's like a social thing for me. I'm like, hey, whatever, man.

00:53:13.631 --> 00:53:15.671
You're the man. Good to see you. Yeah. You should show up to class.

00:53:15.771 --> 00:53:18.451
That means you're doing it right, though. Yeah. They're like, dude, there's...

00:53:19.211 --> 00:53:22.331
Everyone has that guy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another...

00:53:22.331 --> 00:53:24.551
So that's another episode, by the way.

00:53:24.811 --> 00:53:27.651
That's a bit of thread. The people in every single... The people we all have

00:53:27.651 --> 00:53:29.351
in our gym, right? Oh, yeah. Oh.

00:53:30.251 --> 00:53:33.131
There's archetypes. It's like the Canterbury Tales. Yeah. You ever read the Canterbury Tales?

00:53:33.331 --> 00:53:36.151
Oh, I read the Canterbury Tales. They have all the different stories of these

00:53:36.151 --> 00:53:41.011
individual, I guess, I don't remember, medieval prototypes of people? Yeah.

00:53:41.991 --> 00:53:47.411
The character, the archetypes exist everywhere, yeah. Have we covered this thread, Michael?

00:53:47.731 --> 00:53:50.351
I believe so. You want to do the, what do you call it?

00:53:51.071 --> 00:53:54.931
You want the combat confession? I feel like we've talked pretty good about this,

00:53:54.971 --> 00:53:56.931
but I could do a combat confession. I got one in me.

00:53:57.391 --> 00:54:01.351
So, I mean, let's wrap. Combat confessions. Combat confessions.

00:54:01.611 --> 00:54:04.451
Before we do the combat confession, I am going to wrap. I'm going to summarize

00:54:04.451 --> 00:54:07.491
real quick. So, um, so...

00:54:09.137 --> 00:54:14.517
Set your core values. The core values will attract the right people.

00:54:15.377 --> 00:54:19.577
And if you have the right people that you can trust, and I mean,

00:54:19.717 --> 00:54:22.357
we're walking this from the top down here.

00:54:22.557 --> 00:54:25.917
If you have the right core values, the right people show up at the gym.

00:54:26.097 --> 00:54:30.097
If you have the right people, you find people that you can trust and create

00:54:30.097 --> 00:54:31.397
leaders with. There you go.

00:54:31.697 --> 00:54:39.037
And those leaders will then expand and extend your community and culture because

00:54:39.037 --> 00:54:42.837
they'll take their individuality and expand it to a greater group,

00:54:43.017 --> 00:54:44.077
you know, larger group of people.

00:54:44.357 --> 00:54:49.017
Yeah, force multiplier is a good word for it. And then the people that they've

00:54:49.017 --> 00:54:52.457
attracted will also help grow your culture because they're going to be,

00:54:52.617 --> 00:54:54.417
they're like the fingers.

00:54:54.677 --> 00:54:57.657
That's right. And they're going to go, one, they're going to find new people

00:54:57.657 --> 00:55:00.237
that fit the culture really well that they think will fit in.

00:55:00.457 --> 00:55:05.597
They'll help retain students and retain other members because they're going

00:55:05.597 --> 00:55:08.097
to, I mean, they're, they are, they are the machine.

00:55:08.217 --> 00:55:10.797
They are the culture that you've, you've built. And if you've done it right.

00:55:11.568 --> 00:55:15.228
They will get more people in they will stay and

00:55:15.228 --> 00:55:17.988
your gym will you know last and for you the

00:55:17.988 --> 00:55:20.848
student what that means is you're gonna have more people

00:55:20.848 --> 00:55:24.068
to train with you're gonna have a lot of a big

00:55:24.068 --> 00:55:26.868
group of guys that heck a lot of them you can probably just

00:55:26.868 --> 00:55:30.388
call and they'll help you out with something by the way um yeah

00:55:30.388 --> 00:55:33.168
i need someone to help me move furniture fuck yeah dude like

00:55:33.168 --> 00:55:35.868
yeah bro culture is awesome yeah you will make some

00:55:35.868 --> 00:55:39.108
yeah you're right you're gonna make friends you're going to have a lot of good training partners

00:55:39.108 --> 00:55:41.788
um yeah you know and it's the best thing

00:55:41.788 --> 00:55:44.608
ever did it's it's awesome it's just awesome it's the best thing ever

00:55:44.608 --> 00:55:47.668
uh so you know do your i'm doing

00:55:47.668 --> 00:55:50.788
my part do your part starship troopers

00:55:50.788 --> 00:55:55.388
do your part get you know and defend the culture defend the culture that's a

00:55:55.388 --> 00:56:00.088
big one defend the culture what you said about the transparency in i'll show

00:56:00.088 --> 00:56:03.428
you my list of uh values when we're off the line that's that's that's a really

00:56:03.428 --> 00:56:07.908
good one though because that goes back to what we were talking about with the

00:56:07.908 --> 00:56:09.088
shitty people of jiu-jitsu,

00:56:09.328 --> 00:56:11.608
the dark side of our sport.

00:56:12.348 --> 00:56:14.268
That transparency, too, is huge.

00:56:15.428 --> 00:56:20.828
You want your people to feel like they can all talk to each other. That's right, man.

00:56:21.728 --> 00:56:26.408
Let the immune system work. Let the blood flow, dude. Let the circulation,

00:56:26.408 --> 00:56:28.708
the system, let it move around.

00:56:28.948 --> 00:56:32.348
But now, now that we've wrapped that up, What is it called again?

00:56:33.308 --> 00:56:36.148
Combat conversations? Combat confessions? It's time for combat confessions.

00:56:36.208 --> 00:56:38.988
There it is. I'm still learning. All right. So...

00:56:40.420 --> 00:56:47.180
Combat confessions. Training for the wrong reasons. Oh, God, dude.

00:56:47.780 --> 00:56:51.580
Uh-oh. I used to think I was training for self-defense capabilities.

00:56:52.120 --> 00:56:57.000
Oh, this is about the person. This is a blue belt, two stripes. Blue belt, two stripes.

00:56:58.340 --> 00:57:01.260
Or it says blue belt, two. Whatever.

00:57:01.600 --> 00:57:03.280
I think it's blue belt, two stripes. He's got two blue belts,

00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:05.860
a double blue belt? Or he's a double blue belt. Nice.

00:57:06.200 --> 00:57:08.860
I used to think I was training for self-defense capabilities,

00:57:08.860 --> 00:57:13.060
but now I realize those years spent studying pins, wedges, and hip control was

00:57:13.060 --> 00:57:17.000
actually to the benefit of getting my toddler dressed in record time. Oh, that's funny.

00:57:17.420 --> 00:57:20.540
Thanks, coach. Your knowledge helped me on and off the mats. Yeah.

00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:26.300
Comment number one. Donaher's straight jacket helps for toothbrushing, too.

00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.840
This one's going to be a few. This is just toddler confessions.

00:57:32.080 --> 00:57:34.760
When my son was three, he hated the dentist.

00:57:34.980 --> 00:57:38.580
There was no reason for him to hate it, but he would fight like his life depended

00:57:38.580 --> 00:57:39.960
on. There's reasons to hate the dentist.

00:57:40.200 --> 00:57:42.380
Totally. This guy's, sorry, wrong.

00:57:43.340 --> 00:57:45.000
There's plenty of reasons to hate the dentist.

00:57:46.120 --> 00:57:50.080
I had to lay on the chair with him on top of me, triangle across his thighs

00:57:50.080 --> 00:57:53.400
to keep his legs down, one arm across his chest with his arms pinned,

00:57:53.540 --> 00:57:55.600
and the other to hold his head as still as possible.

00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:59.500
Without training, I'm not sure I could have held him still without hurting him.

00:57:59.520 --> 00:58:01.840
Kids will still move, man. They got, like, natural jiu-jitsu.

00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:05.020
They're gonna, like, squirm and do weird shit. Dude, I watched my daughter,

00:58:05.340 --> 00:58:10.200
like, full-on wrestle and like throw armbar like they

00:58:10.600 --> 00:58:13.760
they know what they're doing we know we are born knowing how to do jiu jitsu

00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.620
it's like a lost thing we unlearn it as we age yeah I tell this to everyone

00:58:16.620 --> 00:58:19.500
I'm like dude you used to know how to do all this that's funny and then you

00:58:19.500 --> 00:58:22.720
forgot yeah that's weird and now we have to teach you again,

00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:25.620
I love it uh.

00:58:27.367 --> 00:58:33.087
Yeah, so that's the guy learned how to... Subdue his child who needs to sit

00:58:33.087 --> 00:58:37.287
still and have her cavity filled or whatever? Yeah, whatever they need done.

00:58:38.667 --> 00:58:42.107
Grapplers are not known for their strong reading skills unless your name is

00:58:42.107 --> 00:58:45.527
Ryan Hall. That was part of this too. Is that the same thread? Yeah.

00:58:46.187 --> 00:58:51.007
Weird. I saw Ryan Hall's name. He's from around here, so, you know.

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I think he's a pretty smart guy. He can read, but I think he can read. That's a weird comment.

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Yeah, I don't know. maybe that guy I don't know maybe he has a problem with

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Ryan Hall there's nah he's just trying to be funny um interesting okay uh,

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I have time for one more alright give me one more this one I think I might want

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to try to keep up with okay okay uh.

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Day two out of 42 days, oh, two slash 42 days without BJJ.

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Uh, I'm going insane, guys.

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The mat is a white belt. I'm going insane, guys. The mats are calling my name, but the doctor said no.

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My clavicle still snapped. The drugs still keep me drowsy.

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Time needs to become faster.

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Dude's definitely still on the drugs. Typing not so good.

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Uh, So I guess this dude snapped his clavicle and can't train jiu-jitsu now. It's been 42 days.

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It says 2 slash 42, whether that means 2 of 42 or... Yeah, dude. It's been 42 days.

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I mean, 2 of 42, like, obviously... It's been two days. If it's been two days,

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obviously your clavicle is still broken, bro.

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However, I do like this. The first comment is from a black belt.

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And it says but you have two clavicles i agree

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with him i was gonna say don't be a pussy and just go train dude

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that's i've known i've known great men with many more

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broken bones than him if not only competed but won medals

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under the duress of a broken clavicle

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this dude has metal plates had metal plates put in that's wild shit well next

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the next he should be fine two days is like you haven't even gotten out of the

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weekend yet man it's like just relax dude if it is two out of 40 if it is in

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fact 42 days 42 days seems fast yeah that's like,

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42 days is like less than a month and a half.

01:00:52.601 --> 01:00:57.081
I feel like it has to be the 42 days. It has to be. It's not two out of 42.

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It has to be that it's been 42 days.

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I don't know, man. I don't know. I never know with Reddit. You never know.

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We either tell the guy to be patient, grow up, be patient, or grow up,

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be a man. Just go fight injured, dude. Let the clavicle grow back weird.

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The next comment is they took the shark out of the ocean.

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That's funny. Followed by, it's been a year since I

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damaged my oh we get a bonus it's been a year since I damaged my adductor longus

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playing rubber guard I haven't touched the mat since I hope I can make it back

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at 52 now I feel your pain I was so close to my brown butt as well dang that

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kind of sucks I feel a little more sympathetic for a guy in his 50s I feel bad

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for that dude snapped it I mean,

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don't play rubber guard kids dangerous,

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Roman ouch I don't know if he still does that I hope not I tried really hard

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to talk him out of it when he was Yeah.

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Oh, this is actually helpful. Go to class, wear your jeans or clothing.

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You know you can't roll in, so you just sit and watch. Yeah,

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there you go. Still be a part of the community.

01:02:01.741 --> 01:02:05.481
Hell yeah, that's right. There we go. There we rolled it back in. Train your mind.

01:02:05.901 --> 01:02:11.941
Yeah, but definitely. Vastly underutilized resource in life and definitely in jujitsu.

01:02:12.241 --> 01:02:17.081
That is your mind. That is actually just a good tip for everybody, which is if you are hurt,

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Go to class, but do not show up in your, like, don't wear your stuff because

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you will train if you wear your stuff. That's true.

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Show up in street clothes that you can't train in. I mean, just figure it out.

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Just know what you can and can't do and just live with that.

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Don't complain about it. Don't play with temptation.

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Don't write a weird, silly crybaby post on Reddit about it. I mean, you know.

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We need fodder for the show. So thank you for your service.

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Write your crybaby post on the show. I'll shame you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's fine. Please, please put your crybaby posts on Reddit. I really like that

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guy, the choke guy. That freak, that freak. Oh, dude. That was a good one.

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That's what I'm. That came out of the gate swinging for combat confessions. I was hoping.

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We'll get more. We'll get more weird shit like that. Well, I was hoping that

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that was what the training for wrong reasons one was going to like turn into.

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And I was slightly disappointed. I was like, I need another one.

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Yeah, the dude training, the dude, the choke fetish dude.

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That was that's a good one uh that

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was legendary i don't know if i'll ever recover from that but we

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might have peaked on the first one no no no

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we'll be good we'll be good that one was

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awesome though i'll keep digging and we'll get you more and you guys can actually

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give us more content give us your combat confessions go to www.fdcpodcast.com

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go to the contact us page Maybe I should make a confessions page.

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I'm going to make a separate confessions page. We'll keep it confidential.

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Yeah. If we feel like it. I'll make a seg... I'll see it.

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I'm going to try. I have to figure out how to do it. But I will figure out how

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to make... Maybe it'll be a drop-down or something.

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There will be a way to specifically submit to the combat confessions. And I will find it out.

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And one way to do that, though, would be go do the voicemails.

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The voicemail will be nice. Leave us a voicemail because I will play it on the show.

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Unless you tell me not to. Hey, first time caller, long time listener.

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Oh, please, please do that. First time caller, long time listener.

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Go on there. Same guy, every week. Same guy. That's what I want.

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I want your, I do need your, I want your belt rank. That is important to this.

01:04:29.210 --> 01:04:31.710
Okay. I don't need your name though. No, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

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If you give me your name, awesome. But if you don't, that's fine too.

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But I do want a belt rank because it does add a little bit of contact. It helps, yes.

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It changes the context. so yeah hop on there guys interact with us talk to me

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hate mail love mail whatever um but yeah give us your combat confessions and

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it will feature it on the show and that was fire stream coffee yeah yeah we love you guys bye bye bye.