(Ep 9) Dallas Ducote from Rising Tide

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Welcome to Fighters Drinking Coffee. We are here with Dallas DeCote,

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owner of the Rising Tide in Montgomery County.

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Go ahead and say hello. Let's get started. Hey, well, I'm not Dallas.

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I'm Dallas. That's Dallas. That's Dallas. Dallas drove his ass from weigh-ins this morning.

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Where was the weigh-ins? the weigh-ins are in

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fort washington uh right outside southeast dc

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and maryland it's the rose croft uh

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raceway it's like a horse and dog track an old

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casino raceway um three

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or four stories building uh it's pretty big and they

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have the the golden glove usa boxing golden

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gloves tournament there in the top

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floor ballroom and you won you you box was

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like a month ago three weeks ago or something like that yeah so we

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uh there was a few weekends in march

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and april where we did the um north

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carolina state championship and the virginia state championship

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and i was fortunate enough to win

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those two so then now i'm competing against the

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winners of washington dc and maryland and delaware um

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so it's the regional championship so you're currently the

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virginia and north Carolina state yeah for 187 uh novice nice fuck yeah excellent

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man to your conquer in territories man is does this have are you gonna become

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a state champion in technically Maryland or is this this is technically DC tonight

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so this is it's it's held in like.

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They do a bracket for every state or city. So D.C. is its own state compared to Maryland.

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And then the winner of each faced each other. So this is like the third weekend of this tournament.

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For me, this is probably the eighth weekend for the whole tournament of the

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organization for Golden Gloves in this area.

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Of this region from North Carolina to Maryland and Delaware.

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So the mid-Atlantic region is what it is. so is tonight just one is one match

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out of the bracket is that correct?

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It's the winner so I'm facing the winner of Maryland, D.C.

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And Delaware and then and then the winner that is the champion of the region D.C.

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Is known for its boxing too yeah I mean this whole region is known for boxing

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and it's in fact the awesome part about it is it's also $30 tickets if anyone

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wants to go but maybe it's coming out too late but anyways next year,

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they're real straightforward about it,

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you see a banner and they have like a banner and then a banner that was clipped on and it was,

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all the Golden Glove champs and like national champions that come from that

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area so it wasn't just the local they don't put a banner of the local champions

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they put a banner of the national champions and the world champions so there's a list of like,

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70 names and it's all like from this area DC, Maryland, Virginia.

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People you would sugar red leather yeah uh roy

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jones senior roy jones jr uh roach

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uh jamante davis like anyone from

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that was ever a world champion or national champion at maryland dc virginia

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that name is it's like 70 names and i think the first one i saw on there is

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sugar ray leonard and he was actually at the last event and he gave alex uh

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brennan from kazan mma she gave her a little award or something cool awesome yeah,

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dude when we met I met you at a Copa Elite we actually just talked about it

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on our last episode because Mike competed on that you were a quarter in Sam yeah

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And obviously we were talking a lot about, uh, we were there for,

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it's a jujitsu super fight.

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And, um, you, we were talking about your academy and rising tide because it's

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an MMA gym, right? You guys have all mixed martial arts.

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You're super into boxing right now, right? Yeah.

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And I think I saw that's your main focus at the moment. Is that right?

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Yeah. Yeah. And like, I've been doing jujitsu for a while.

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So, you know, it's, it's funny because like me and Sam, like, um.

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We, we, we met grappling at kaizen so we

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kind of just like worked well together and um helped

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each other grow a little bit when we're in the training room together like i

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don't know him too much um but every time i see him

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it's like a good time and and yeah i'm on this little boxing wave because my

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coaches won't let me do mma unless i do boxing so literally they're just like

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do boxing and i'm like all right so i'm enjoying boxing and i'm enjoying this

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coffee too there you are yeah you are and eventually you want to start fighting MMA.

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Yeah, I've done one MMA match, right? Do you fight out of Kaizen?

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And yeah the rising tide moco

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we're growing it um it's really a gym

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for everyone and you know i've had people come

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and and leave and say like oh well it's not it's

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not advanced enough and i'm like that's okay man

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like we've been open for less than six months you

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know like you're building a program yeah you're doing

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a program and it's like all right we're growing fast though

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we're signing people up every day so good

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that's not like a problem we have a good sales system

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in place right it's rock solid and and

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we have good mentors that have like set the path

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like shown us the paths for that there's different paths but

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we're taking our own right we're taking the best of both and

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making it happen right the right way and like

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um being in that that room

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like trying to train people yeah man like you're by

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yourself all i can do is box and hit the bag or

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shadow box like doing jiu-jitsu it's kind

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of hard by yourself so sometimes when i was starting up that

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gym really like the classes were small

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bro so i really had to like just learn

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to make the most out of my own training yoga ball for

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jiu-jitsu right and just techniques smooth body

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movement balance all that yeah yeah it makes sense well

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and just on your your note about growing the

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academy like to to the the people pushing back

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for like the level or whatever like that's gonna change quick too.

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You gotta like build your base and like most people for those.

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Listening jiu-jitsu businesses martial arts businesses run on like catering.

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To regular folks you know like you like there's only so many people in the world

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who are competitive jiu-jitsu players and just as a.

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I've been running district martial arts for 8 years and been around the sport for 20 years,

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And this, I've heard this from like other guys who've been in a way longer than

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be like some like mentors and folks that I have in martial arts.

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And a lot of these guys tell me like, these are like, like, I'm not going to mention names.

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They're like world class level, like, like Brazilian dudes have been doing it for like 30 years.

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Other folks, like guys who are like elite grapplers who are like,

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yeah, dude, fuck all that competitive bullshit. He's like, it's not that good for your business.

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It's not necessarily bad. Don't get me wrong. He's like, you just,

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you, you cater to regular folks and families.

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That's how your business is going to thrive. And then you'll get competitors.

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You kind of focus on like making it welcoming to everybody because that builds

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your community. It's like the foundation of a home or whatever.

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And like within that, you'll get some dudes or ladies or whatever who are interested in competing.

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Like you'll grow the talent or people will come because they want to train with

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you. You'll get competitive type folks too. But the reason they'll stay there

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is because they want to be in your squad, in your community.

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It's not like they, like, I mean, we had a guy this morning came in.

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Cameron Hurd and trained with us.

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He's got a great team he's already got a like he's got a competitive team

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he's a part of and he travels and he cross

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trains unless he cross trains with other dudes but like he's got a home base right

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and i'm part of that is i think his head coach is like

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definitely encouraging him to get like reads everywhere

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so like even like competitors that's it's a competitor's like

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nature to want to go to other places and

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train with other dudes um and like the smartest

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competitors are gonna always come back to like the head coach

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because that person has like a long-term vision for what

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this guy this gala whatever should be doing but

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like and that's like that's like the best case scenario like a

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good competitor who like is smart and and knows hey

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i should be like tethered to a a certain coach in a certain community but it's

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to grow their skills as a competitor they'll move to other places say that because

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they're not as smart competitors who just will be not on the fly around everywhere

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and that's why you get that feedback that's why like pedrigo madaris has told

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me this he's like man like.

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The best thing I've ever done for my business was gravitating away from being

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a competition focused gym. It doesn't mean you can't still have some of that.

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It's just been way better for my business to run it like a community,

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great people who are going to stick around. They're like, you're going to get competitors.

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They're going to come and go. That's just what competitors do because it always

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seems like the grass is greener on the other side. If they lose a match,

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they blame you, the coach.

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Again, this is kind of like the maybe impetuous young athletes or whatever,

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but smart ones, like I said, Cameron, for example, he has his coach.

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She's going to keep working with the guy, but he's still going to be able to

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kind of move around and train with other dudes, push himself.

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But it's like, yeah, man, like these, you don't, you don't need like this super,

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like you don't need to force a like high level competitor team.

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It'll happen or it doesn't. And if it happens, like, that's great.

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You can, you can still do that. Like you can kind of have your cake and eat it too.

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He's like, you just don't make it like 90% of your focus.

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So if these guys, they leave like, fuck them, man. They'll come back.

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And those people that start with you day one, they're going to stay with you

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a lot longer than those people that already have experience coming in too because

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you're going to mold what jiu-jitsu is to them.

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And so they're more likely to be more loyal than someone who's been around and been doing stuff too.

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And you are too because you're going to remember that dude who came in when

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you were like, I just launched this gym. You were with me from the beginning. You supported me.

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Yeah, it's better than some dude who's kind of like a mercenary.

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Flying around like i mean like what are you going to devote your

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time to some guy who's not really even committed to you and all

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the work you're doing the money you invested the time you spent like

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the blood sweat and tears like you said you were there you sacrificed some

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of your training because you're like i want to be in my academy like i'm gonna do just i'm

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doing bad work so i'm not getting like the best x y or z or whatever you can

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drive around town you can find that somewhere else but you like you're like

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no i'm gonna come here i'm

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gonna harvest and work on my shit build it

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up because you know what it will be you know it's gonna

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be awesome like you know it's going to be great you are great like

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you're a fucking golden gloves boxer you work with

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liam too right yeah he's awesome like you guys have the

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constituent pieces just trust it yeah dude i

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believe in it it's going to be so successful and i'm so happy and grateful

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that i get to wake up every day and do my dream job that's awesome dude

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it's like it's automatic and um

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god that space is so fresh um what

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was the biggest thing that that you've learned like just

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being an owner like what's the best advice like just

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the top one yeah um well dude i'll

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tell you like the first thing that comes to mind for me um i

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think you already touched on it dude i think like knowing like

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you said you have a good sales process and i think that's so important because

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number one like at the end of the day like the if you can't i mean my background

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was sales and in like professional careers which like what field uh software

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okay yeah i was doing like software of service and I do, I did payment processing.

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I still do payment processing. I have another business that I work on that too.

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Shout out to Primo payments, but, um, yeah, I'm still heavily involved in that,

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but, um, yeah, like software, I still have a bunch of shit, dude,

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like most, mostly software.

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And, um, but I bring it up because number one, like it's, I feel like it's like

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the most, again, way that my, my lens with that focus, that's kind of my bias, but I think

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you have to understand how to sell something to just to have a business.

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If you can't sell it, you don't have a business.

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Someone's not going to pay you money for what you're explaining to them,

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the services, like we're in goods and, well, this is not goods.

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This is services, right?

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Mostly services. Maybe there's some like apparel and shit, but we're selling

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a service. You're selling yourself and like what you guys do and what you offer.

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And I think getting that down, like as long as you can always do that,

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you can keep the business alive.

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You like, for me, like I guess the next part of that dude that I learned was

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like, obviously there's a million other things in running a business that you

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got to get down. I think that's the,

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The basis of it is what you just talked about, like understanding it,

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selling it. And if you have a process for it, which sounds like you do, even better.

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Like you want to be like an engineer, which you are.

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You want to be like an engineer insofar as like building that system for sales.

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Because like a systematized sales process, it's just more professional.

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And like you're going to be more successful because like you can like wing it.

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You can be really good on the fly. And that's positive.

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But the process is going to like, if you wing things, lots of opportunities

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are just going to slip to the cracks.

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Which means you're always going to be scrapping for the next thing.

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So you have that process.

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You can train someone else on the process. You can start to like mold staff

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members and up your business partners or whatever. Like you can,

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you can multiply yourself.

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If you're good at it, you can get other dudes doing it.

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And then like, now you have a team selling on the system. Like the system is

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super important, super important.

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So, but like I said, you do that, you start with that man and you're doing it now.

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Like you've, you've seen a pretty big rise in membership and that means you

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guys are doing a good job at it. So keep doing that. And then like,

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you'll, you'll, you'll learn the rest of the job.

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You will. Cause you're just going to, you have no choice. You're going to be

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there. Like you're going to be doing it. Like.

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Hr like hr is a weird one like i've i've

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had to do hr my business partners like you've had to

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do hr like you've had to hire at the fire we've had good experiences

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bad experiences like that's a weird one but like other things are going to come

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up and you'll just i mean you'll pick it up you have to what do you got mike

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come on uh yeah like so when i was um a big thing and it's kind of in the same

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realm when I was managing Nova, um,

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Nova MMA, like you kind of figure out to like where you're specifically strong

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and like, you know, you're going to be strong in multiple areas maybe,

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but like where specifically your programs are strong, like what are your strongest selling points?

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What are your things outside of just the service you offer?

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Like, you know, um, so like, you know part

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you're partially selling the other people at the gym to

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the new person like you have these like community things

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and like oh yeah we everybody gets together

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we have this you know this group will go and do these things every friday or

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you know when we go and do competitions we all kind of go out everybody supports

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each other and so you have these additional like little value adds that normally

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you know there's just those are the nice things that bring it will help people stay.

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Um, but then also you get, you start to learn as you learn what your strongest

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aspects are within your place.

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You also start to learn more about the people that are looking to try out your

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place and you start to figure out people a lot faster.

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And so you, the process will really starting to tighten up.

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Like as you go deeper and deeper and deeper into it, you start to figure out

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like, all right, like right off the bat, you, you almost can profile what someone

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will gravitate towards the most.

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You'll know, you can look at someone and be like, all right,

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well, this person is probably going to be most interested in our kickboxing program.

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So you know that we don't need to go over the other stuff yet.

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Let's just go ahead and direct them in the way that their interests,

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like, you know, they tell you their goals and you'd be like,

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all right, let's start here. Like, try this class out.

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And so you can, the process just becomes more and more refined as you go.

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And you might already be there, but like, that was something that when I was

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managing Nova that I started to pick up was like,

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you get those leads in and the quicker you can get them onto the thing,

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the faster you can turn this you know turn you know

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convert that sale and start to have like these people and

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they're a lot happier because they didn't have to go through a whole process of

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figuring out what they want to do there and you said it like

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quicker too dude because um that was good notes but like my one mentor says

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money's attracted to speed so like implementation is the way to gravitate money

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like pulls it in yeah i'd say people people like um they stick around for the community?

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Yeah. Yeah. Community too. Community is a big one. That's what keeps people

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around. Yeah. Because they want to like, they'll make friends, dude. Like what we do is,

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It's like a weirdly intimate thing. Like you get to know people really well

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when they're like squeezing your head or whatever. You're squeezing their head.

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Swagging your mouth. Yeah, dude. And then like afterwards you knuckle up,

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you shoot the shit and whatever. Like you hang out with these guys,

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you know? Like some people like that shit.

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It's probably the most important like intangible thing.

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And it just comes from like, you know, just being around, being cool to people.

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I don't think there's anything crazy about it. No.

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Or crazy complex about it. it definitely creates

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from the top down too like you have to

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you know you can garner what all that community

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becomes so you know you're you your

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coaches like all that kind of guides it and so you know keep having it tight

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between you and the people at the top will help create like the right type of

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community too so we got great coaches and they're young they're like blue belt level but.

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They should probably could be purple belts but like but

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we actually haven't even started wearing geese but our team is

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are so good uh we even just like they're

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professional level grapplers and fighters and then

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we got joe walsh who like joe walsh

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he has been training like around he's from

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gaithersburg but coach joe taps

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me every time we roll and he taps like pro mma

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guys easy his jiu-jitsu is tight and he

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actually trained at 10th plane in austin he trained

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with uh coach tim welsh and at red hawk and and all those fighters like tommy

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mcmillan jojo and then o'malley um but now he's he's our coach and dude he taps

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me every time as a blue belt we're not even wearing.

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Yet so i can't wait to like start wearing promote

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them something yeah yeah the

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last thing i'll say is like take care of your your loyal people too yeah

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yeah the people who are good that's just it's more of an extension the community thing

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we talked about but like the people who like do good by you yeah good

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by them too yeah yeah um what

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else you got so much um

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kind of tell us about what

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led you to wanting to open

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rising tide yeah man dude it's like

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it's weird i think it just like meant happened for

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happened for a reason like the universe i

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feel like just drove drug me to rockville um

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because in college like i graduated from towson

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you played baseball there i played baseball there for a

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semester on the club team but i signed like this pro independent pro contract

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i remember you tell me about this and then i got like really sick but i didn't

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get to play went back to school and played another year in greensboro but then

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i came back finished up with towson and then um i was like working construction

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working at bars and stuff.

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Graduated got a job at this firm in columbia and i was doing a lot of work in dc uh frederick,

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um rockville they call it like research road there's like all them labs up there

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you can see some of them from here yeah and um and basically i got fired because

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i was just like i was like dude this is not me like i was like dude this job

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yeah wrong place yeah kind of guy Well,

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just like, I was just like not having a good time.

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And, um, went back to my parents' house, started,

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started working at the bars and then just training jujitsu with Mike Stewart

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in Finksburg and Liam Panero, who was driving from all the way down here up

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to train up at Helsing Gracie Academy, which was rising time.

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Uh and tony waldecker and a bunch of coaches from down here

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would drive up there to teach it was awesome and basically

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covid happened i got a call from a project manager hhs and he's like come work

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and i'm like i bet because i was doing i was designing labs before and like

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i did a good job i just wasn't working well with the company i was working for

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is pretty much why i got fired,

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um I was like nerds.

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Because you know but anyways so I'm at NIH here in Bethesda for a while,

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Nothing, dude. Nothing. Don't trigger me. It's not your good.

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So I'm at NIH in Bethesda for a minute, right? And I'm doing other jobs too.

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And I started training at a gym up there. And then that gym ended up shutting down.

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And also when I was working up there, I was driving up to Columbia to work for

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Steve in the Risen Town in Columbia.

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So then I was like, all right, the job's too much. I'm going to do Kaizen.

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I'm going to work at this other gym in Rockville.

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The rockville gym shut down and then they

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like the owners weren't sure what

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to do with the space and then they eventually called me

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like a year later and they were like do you want the space and i'm

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like let's do it um and you

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know dude everyone today it's like fight day everyone's

00:21:48.442 --> 00:21:52.122
saying good luck to me and dude i

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like i when i hear that i'm kind of like oh bro

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don't say good luck to me because luck is when

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preparedness meets opportunity right

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so it's like dude like what is luck right preparedness meets opportunity like

00:22:07.022 --> 00:22:12.502
you said like yeah it's not like a do you have people asking me for like details

00:22:12.502 --> 00:22:15.442
and shit they're like what time is it all and we're gonna get tickets yeah yeah

00:22:15.442 --> 00:22:18.602
the typical like the worst thing like you can send to like a guy when he's.

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That's normal people do that i got my phone on silent right

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now yeah it's smart but like you know

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it's funny because do not disturb on just yeah

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just for for a little bit today like dude

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and so back to the moco um i

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i work a lot of engineering now so i left the company i

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was working for at hhs dude when all that vaccine stuff

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went down i was like fuck y'all i was like

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dude i was like you oh you're gonna tell me to take a vaccine dude fire me just

00:22:49.202 --> 00:22:53.502
fire me did they no and they but everyone else got the balls and do it everyone

00:22:53.502 --> 00:22:58.122
else got afraid and got the vaccine or everyone else was afraid and quit and

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i was like all right dude well i'm going out like getting fired.

00:23:03.300 --> 00:23:06.000
You guys fire me fire me once you're gonna fire me again

00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:09.040
yeah and it's like all those jobs are like government jobs

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you have to like clearances to get on sites and stuff and

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um and i was doing super well

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for my company like dude i've been doing construction my whole life like i enjoy

00:23:19.520 --> 00:23:26.240
it i do it well but um i was like yeah dude fire me guys and eventually they

00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.960
didn't fire me i saw like half my friends quit or get vaccinated one boss had

00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.520
a heart attack after he got vaccinated in the office,

00:23:33.800 --> 00:23:36.560
one of the CEOs, yes, one of our presidents of the company.

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Um, and then I had other friends like get injured, right.

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I read, I read three books on, on that stuff while I was at HHS and I was working

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at like ground zero, I was building Dr.

00:23:48.840 --> 00:23:52.720
Fauci's penthouse at the FD. It's so basically it's, I bet he has a sweet penthouse.

00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:54.180
Yes. It's stainless steel.

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And, and we were like, but we were like working in all the mechanical floors and all the lab rooms.

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And uh yeah dude it's just

00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:06.180
you can you can smell the hypocrisy and um it's

00:24:06.180 --> 00:24:09.280
it's not a good thing and um i was

00:24:09.280 --> 00:24:15.380
luckily i got out of the like out of the thumb of people telling me to do shit

00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:21.200
like that but i when when covid popped off in 2020 i think that was my last

00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:27.040
year working at a w2 before I went DMA and my other company full time.

00:24:27.940 --> 00:24:32.260
And I remember like thinking to myself, I mean, I was like, I'm not going to

00:24:32.260 --> 00:24:35.220
get vaccinated. Like, it's just not happening. Like, you're not going to make me do it.

00:24:35.540 --> 00:24:38.420
I'm like, Scott's Irish. Do you are stubborn, famously stubborn people?

00:24:38.540 --> 00:24:41.040
I'm like, I will fucking, you can fire me. I'm like, it's just not happening.

00:24:41.220 --> 00:24:44.020
Like, do what you got to do. But for what it's worth, my company,

00:24:44.100 --> 00:24:45.820
I remember they like at the time.

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And they, they didn't really make a big stink about it, thankfully.

00:24:50.865 --> 00:24:54.265
Like it just, it wasn't, that wasn't the culture. Granted, like I wasn't in

00:24:54.265 --> 00:24:55.825
anything government related at all.

00:24:55.925 --> 00:24:59.165
So there's, I think a little bit less pressure, but they definitely were like

00:24:59.165 --> 00:25:01.845
trying to encourage people to do a little bit, like for sure.

00:25:01.965 --> 00:25:04.905
But they weren't pushing it too hard, which is like credit to them for like

00:25:04.905 --> 00:25:09.965
dealing with and could you imagine being like a, it wasn't a huge company.

00:25:10.065 --> 00:25:12.585
It was like a big ish company. It's like telling someone to get an abortion.

00:25:12.905 --> 00:25:15.665
It's like telling literally like a teacher to get an abortion.

00:25:15.665 --> 00:25:20.325
It's the same shit it's my body my choice or is the vaccine mandates oh that's

00:25:20.325 --> 00:25:24.065
different it's your body my choice it's the same shit no it's the same shit

00:25:24.065 --> 00:25:25.585
and and it's not even a vaccine.

00:25:26.565 --> 00:25:29.405
It's gene therapeutics and dude bill gates said

00:25:29.405 --> 00:25:32.165
this shit fucking a decade and a half

00:25:32.165 --> 00:25:35.505
ago on a ted talk how good was that shit is

00:25:35.505 --> 00:25:38.165
that the one where he said that he was like we need to like he actually i think he said the

00:25:38.165 --> 00:25:41.025
quiet part out loud right where he was like we need the vaccines because the

00:25:41.025 --> 00:25:43.765
world's too populated yes i think it was that i mean he said he said

00:25:43.765 --> 00:25:46.525
a lot of wild shit yes like he's the amount of stuff that

00:25:46.525 --> 00:25:49.505
he casually says that gets blasted out

00:25:49.505 --> 00:25:52.325
on like major media platforms it's very like dark you're

00:25:52.325 --> 00:25:55.565
like whoa whoa he just said that yeah that's

00:25:55.565 --> 00:25:58.605
probably top five though that's top that's like the

00:25:58.605 --> 00:26:01.845
he's like well how else are we gonna deal with global that's like donald rumsfeld that's

00:26:01.845 --> 00:26:04.925
like donald rumsfeld on c-span the day before 9-11 saying i

00:26:04.925 --> 00:26:07.865
don't know where 3.2 trillion dollars is and then boom

00:26:07.865 --> 00:26:13.345
bang um yeah dude that's like the same thing they tell you what they're gonna

00:26:13.345 --> 00:26:18.485
do right and they do it numerology and it's hermetics like they gotta tell you

00:26:18.485 --> 00:26:23.005
what they're gonna do so they cancel out their bad karma i've heard that before

00:26:23.005 --> 00:26:26.965
i've heard that before like uh on the the conspiracy uh.

00:26:27.642 --> 00:26:30.942
Realm of the internet if you want to call it that where

00:26:30.942 --> 00:26:33.982
there's like that like some if you if you believe that

00:26:33.982 --> 00:26:36.862
shit um whatever code of

00:26:36.862 --> 00:26:41.842
ethics it's like potential potential satanist slash

00:26:41.842 --> 00:26:44.882
whatever i don't know what it is it's like esoteric like

00:26:44.882 --> 00:26:48.462
it's not safe safeness is like evil luciferian is

00:26:48.462 --> 00:26:51.242
like is like kind of just like

00:26:51.242 --> 00:26:54.082
like worldly right okay okay fair

00:26:54.082 --> 00:26:56.902
enough good yeah there are i have also seen that

00:26:56.902 --> 00:26:59.622
there is like their actual definitions of these

00:26:59.622 --> 00:27:03.062
things my bad but but you're right whichever whichever

00:27:03.062 --> 00:27:06.222
whichever one that is luciferian but they

00:27:06.222 --> 00:27:09.182
do i have heard that they like it's like some weird code

00:27:09.182 --> 00:27:12.122
of ethics that they have they have to disclose what they're doing like you

00:27:12.122 --> 00:27:14.762
said if it's like a karma thing or whatever they're like oh so they'll just kind

00:27:14.762 --> 00:27:17.502
of slip it out and like very like plain calm language like

00:27:17.502 --> 00:27:20.182
this maybe it's on cnn or c-span or

00:27:20.182 --> 00:27:23.902
whatever but it will go out there and then the thing

00:27:23.902 --> 00:27:26.582
will take place that they shared with you and

00:27:26.582 --> 00:27:29.802
it's like if you didn't do anything to stop it that's on you yeah bro

00:27:29.802 --> 00:27:32.622
is that right i told you not to

00:27:32.622 --> 00:27:35.702
be there yeah well that's kind of the idea the idea is that

00:27:35.702 --> 00:27:38.562
they're like that's again like if you subscribe to this

00:27:38.562 --> 00:27:41.482
shit um who's the the tough

00:27:41.482 --> 00:27:44.522
thing about all this is it's like it's so like it's like hidden

00:27:44.522 --> 00:27:47.382
in plain sight so it's like there's like a maybe there

00:27:47.382 --> 00:27:50.122
is a written playbook i mean you we're talking about sam triple

00:27:50.122 --> 00:27:53.082
a in the tinfoil podcast uh earlier like i mean that those

00:27:53.082 --> 00:27:55.762
dudes like i know him he's going hard on the paint on like.

00:27:55.762 --> 00:27:58.802
Doing his research and they they made his written down somewhere excuse.

00:27:58.802 --> 00:28:01.882
Me whatever but i this these things.

00:28:01.882 --> 00:28:05.142
Tend to be like if you even just choosing

00:28:05.142 --> 00:28:08.402
to like engage with a conspiracy theory

00:28:08.402 --> 00:28:11.282
in quotes um there's like.

00:28:11.282 --> 00:28:14.002
The inherent nature of it that it's meant to

00:28:14.002 --> 00:28:16.902
be kind of like secretive right otherwise it wouldn't be a conspiracy theory

00:28:16.902 --> 00:28:19.702
so my my like my only point it's with all that is that

00:28:19.702 --> 00:28:22.562
these things are kind of like it's like opaque on purpose

00:28:22.562 --> 00:28:26.102
it's a kind of vague so it's it's i

00:28:26.102 --> 00:28:28.642
don't know that's all i'm saying i personally don't know if like that's the.

00:28:28.642 --> 00:28:31.562
Code of ethics but it kind of makes sense if you're going to go out and like

00:28:31.562 --> 00:28:35.942
you're going to like destabilize global populations and do sinister shit like

00:28:35.942 --> 00:28:44.362
maybe there is a like i'll warn them for a day uh in a very casual way on msnbc or whatever and then,

00:28:44.902 --> 00:28:46.662
they didn't do anything about it. That's on them.

00:28:47.302 --> 00:28:51.382
Yeah. And by them I mean like all of us and the rest of the rest of the people. It's on us.

00:28:51.842 --> 00:28:55.102
Well, you know, I mean, here's the thing.

00:28:55.382 --> 00:29:00.182
There have been people ranting and raving on conspiracy internet.

00:29:01.131 --> 00:29:07.811
I don't know what else to call it. Conspiracy internet for decades about forced vaccinations.

00:29:08.371 --> 00:29:13.471
Like that is a conspiracy theory. Quote, it's a playbook out of like behold,

00:29:13.711 --> 00:29:17.591
like white horse by Cooper.

00:29:18.351 --> 00:29:23.471
Daryl Cooper. Is it Daryl Cooper? Something Cooper. Something Cooper. Some guy named Cooper.

00:29:23.971 --> 00:29:29.511
I don't know. A Cooper. But like, dude, they got operations on operations.

00:29:30.011 --> 00:29:33.031
Rough. so like you want to talk 9-11 they're busy

00:29:33.031 --> 00:29:36.071
with those labs you built them bro yeah you built them some labs they're working

00:29:36.071 --> 00:29:41.651
hard and trust me like i've signed ndas hundreds of them but i won't talk about

00:29:41.651 --> 00:29:44.771
this yeah of course and we don't want you to talk about but the ones i haven't

00:29:44.771 --> 00:29:49.151
signed like or like everyone should know about is like the 9-11 one that was

00:29:49.151 --> 00:29:50.411
executed out of fort belfort.

00:29:50.991 --> 00:29:53.851
And that's called operation able danger carried out

00:29:53.851 --> 00:29:56.891
by the u.s department secretary of um his name

00:29:56.891 --> 00:29:59.671
is zelcal so i mean

00:29:59.671 --> 00:30:02.651
all this stuff like it's out there it's known

00:30:02.651 --> 00:30:05.411
but people can't like wrap their head

00:30:05.411 --> 00:30:08.891
around like oh a plane hit a steel structure that you

00:30:08.891 --> 00:30:11.931
know a 60 000 ton steel plane hit a

00:30:11.931 --> 00:30:14.851
quarter of a million ton steel structure and it's

00:30:14.851 --> 00:30:17.891
that the whole thing just collapsed no right you

00:30:17.891 --> 00:30:21.751
like 1200 degree fires don't melt

00:30:21.751 --> 00:30:25.271
3000 degree or 28 uh 50

00:30:25.271 --> 00:30:31.531
fahrenheit rated steel it doesn't melt that and in fact it takes two to three

00:30:31.531 --> 00:30:37.951
hours to melt that and that's a ul test and i do a lot of ul testings uh like

00:30:37.951 --> 00:30:43.551
i basically put jet engines into steel structures and i burn until they never collapse.

00:30:43.771 --> 00:30:47.271
I test them until they never collapse. That's one of my jobs, right?

00:30:48.991 --> 00:30:54.771
And it's funny because those buildings fell within an hour.

00:30:55.331 --> 00:31:01.751
Okay, let's do the math backwards. Okay, fires go up to 1200 degrees, okay?

00:31:01.871 --> 00:31:04.371
Like office fires is what weaken the steel, right?

00:31:04.531 --> 00:31:07.291
Jet fuel, any type of gas, natural gas, fuel,

00:31:07.511 --> 00:31:10.311
it can burn and it burns up real quick and it

00:31:10.311 --> 00:31:13.631
burns up to 1200 degrees maybe 1500

00:31:13.631 --> 00:31:16.711
degrees but it's a quick 1500 right now

00:31:16.711 --> 00:31:20.791
you have office fires 1200 degrees steel weakens

00:31:20.791 --> 00:31:24.391
at 2850 degrees

00:31:24.391 --> 00:31:27.151
fahrenheit um and that's like when it's like

00:31:27.151 --> 00:31:33.711
starts to melt right and it'll take like time after to actually fall that steel

00:31:33.711 --> 00:31:42.491
is rated for two to three hours and um basically it takes those buildings fell

00:31:42.491 --> 00:31:46.111
within an hour bro and and that's what i'm trying to say is like.

00:31:47.016 --> 00:31:51.496
It's half the time the buildings fell twice as fast at half the temperatures.

00:31:52.376 --> 00:31:58.276
Thermite burns at over 4,000 degrees. It's twice the amount of what it takes

00:31:58.276 --> 00:32:00.436
for steel to melt. And it fell in an hour.

00:32:00.936 --> 00:32:05.156
Yeah. So that's like, if you do the reverse math. You're saying it doesn't make sense.

00:32:06.056 --> 00:32:11.176
Yeah. I think the tricky thing with that sort of, with someone who doesn't know

00:32:11.176 --> 00:32:14.596
anything about engineering, which is like most people, I don't know shit about

00:32:14.596 --> 00:32:17.916
engineering. He probably knows more about engineering than I do.

00:32:17.996 --> 00:32:19.556
Mike knows a lot of like, he knows a lot of stuff.

00:32:19.996 --> 00:32:22.996
But it's just very specific engineering. Whatever.

00:32:23.336 --> 00:32:26.776
Specific machines. Right, right, right, right. Well, all I'm saying is you're

00:32:26.776 --> 00:32:29.436
pretty aware like about a lot of subjects.

00:32:29.616 --> 00:32:31.636
But anyways, I think for a normal person.

00:32:33.816 --> 00:32:36.016
There's at least two things mentally.

00:32:36.016 --> 00:32:41.516
They have to like even be open to accepting to then open their mind.

00:32:41.776 --> 00:32:44.336
It's like there's two gateways, at least. There might be more.

00:32:44.996 --> 00:32:50.316
They have to like be willing to pass through to accept that there is another

00:32:50.316 --> 00:32:53.116
version of what happened since we're referencing 9-11.

00:32:53.236 --> 00:32:56.136
The first one being that, which is like, that's just technical,

00:32:56.316 --> 00:32:58.776
right? No, you've been in construction, so you get it.

00:32:59.076 --> 00:33:03.516
Yeah. So you can go to UL lab, right? And I actually worked for UL lab in Ohio

00:33:03.516 --> 00:33:09.356
and I'm not going to drop the name, but UL labs take the steel and you write,

00:33:09.596 --> 00:33:11.116
run every type of tests for.

00:33:11.952 --> 00:33:14.812
Obviously like they're not going to test like a plane

00:33:14.812 --> 00:33:17.692
i don't know if they have a test running a plane into a building and then it runs

00:33:17.692 --> 00:33:20.752
on you might want to think about it sounds expensive but

00:33:20.752 --> 00:33:23.352
but typically it's it's it's like all right

00:33:23.352 --> 00:33:26.812
a fire started or a bomb went off or a fire started and

00:33:26.812 --> 00:33:30.612
like the ul test for a a

00:33:30.612 --> 00:33:33.572
floor collapsing like the trusts in those buildings

00:33:33.572 --> 00:33:36.652
is astm he won one

00:33:36.652 --> 00:33:39.592
dime and that's two to three hour fire rating and

00:33:39.592 --> 00:33:42.512
if those buildings failed in an hour or

00:33:42.512 --> 00:33:45.932
less than two hours right then there

00:33:45.932 --> 00:33:50.652
was a major engineering failure which all those engineering firms are on the

00:33:50.652 --> 00:33:55.152
hook for failing that and then there would be the biggest lawsuit of all time

00:33:55.152 --> 00:33:59.492
but since oh the plane just hit the building oh we don't know anything could

00:33:59.492 --> 00:34:03.552
happen if a plane and no that's bullshit you had firefighters walking up that building,

00:34:04.112 --> 00:34:11.052
calling in saying hey we can get we can stop these fires we could stop these fires and then.

00:34:11.812 --> 00:34:14.672
No hundred story building falls at free fall speed in

00:34:14.672 --> 00:34:17.692
less than 10 seconds unless it was columns were moved

00:34:17.692 --> 00:34:21.192
and you see columns i've done demo for years if

00:34:21.192 --> 00:34:24.272
you want to cut an i-beam right with thermite for

00:34:24.272 --> 00:34:27.272
a demo with a clean free fall speed you got to go on a 45 you

00:34:27.272 --> 00:34:30.272
place it on a 45 off if you look pictures of ground zero you'll see

00:34:30.272 --> 00:34:32.932
i-beams cut on 45s like all over the

00:34:32.932 --> 00:34:37.552
place so just like unlimited evidence yeah unignited thermite they found on

00:34:37.552 --> 00:34:45.832
the ground you got pools of lava that were in the basement for weeks after at

00:34:45.832 --> 00:34:51.492
temper at at satellite temperatures of over 1500 degrees which is off as far as a molten lava.

00:34:52.769 --> 00:34:56.549
Um well what could what could create that only thermite

00:34:56.549 --> 00:34:59.349
thermite yeah god so that's a controlled

00:34:59.349 --> 00:35:02.169
demolition yeah thermite is um and you can see the squib

00:35:02.169 --> 00:35:05.369
load charges if you watch some buildings fall and plus building seven wasn't

00:35:05.369 --> 00:35:09.549
even touched that was brought down right that didn't fall just there were no

00:35:09.549 --> 00:35:12.829
planes in building seven yeah yeah well it didn't fall because it's just fires

00:35:12.829 --> 00:35:17.969
what how'd the fire start i don't know yeah yeah exactly it was like i think

00:35:17.969 --> 00:35:21.369
a bomb went off in the base of the generator is some shit. Right, right.

00:35:21.749 --> 00:35:27.809
But, but yeah, it's like, thermite is made of, it's a mix of iron, aluminum,

00:35:28.109 --> 00:35:31.929
and like sulfur, and it's like little gray red chips, and like,

00:35:32.089 --> 00:35:36.049
you can like, pick some off the ground, and like, that's unignited,

00:35:36.129 --> 00:35:38.929
just throw it in a microwave, and it'll like, fizz up, and that's what they did.

00:35:38.929 --> 00:35:41.409
We're not recommending people do this. Definitely don't do that. No.

00:35:41.869 --> 00:35:45.249
But it's an interesting question. Yeah, no, it's. Not like any ground.

00:35:45.409 --> 00:35:48.229
Well, no, no, I get it. It's, it, well, yeah,

00:35:48.349 --> 00:35:51.309
dude, like like what i was saying like there's all that with all that technical

00:35:51.309 --> 00:35:53.909
shit that's complicated most people are not even gonna keep

00:35:53.909 --> 00:35:57.609
track of when they're gonna check out sometimes it there's

00:35:57.609 --> 00:36:01.409
you know people want to have it's

00:36:01.409 --> 00:36:04.709
simpler to just believe what you're told right like that's

00:36:04.709 --> 00:36:11.029
an easier thing to do and especially if that aligns with like the reality you

00:36:11.029 --> 00:36:15.589
want like you're gonna you're gonna if it which is your day to day life simpler

00:36:15.589 --> 00:36:21.509
that's the next one yeah so like yeah that's what I think it all it's too comforting it's.

00:36:21.989 --> 00:36:25.389
Simpler it's simpler to be like this is just what happened it's fighting it's

00:36:25.389 --> 00:36:29.489
it's the same like parallel to fighting it's like you gotta test the truth right

00:36:29.489 --> 00:36:32.109
and see what works and what doesn't and like.

00:36:32.982 --> 00:36:34.882
Like, I'm going to go like this. I'm going to throw my hand up,

00:36:34.982 --> 00:36:36.622
but I'm going to come with a jab low, right?

00:36:36.822 --> 00:36:41.842
Like, it's the same thing. Like, you can distract people, but you got to test the truth.

00:36:42.202 --> 00:36:47.202
That's my whole thing. So, government distrust is what kind of drove you more

00:36:47.202 --> 00:36:50.862
and more into wanting. It's not even government distrust. It's like little incels

00:36:50.862 --> 00:36:53.282
inside the government. Like, the government of the whole is a good one.

00:36:53.622 --> 00:36:56.362
But it's just like bad apples. There's always bad apples.

00:36:56.582 --> 00:37:01.222
A distrust of the, maybe not the whole, but like, there's a system that is.

00:37:01.442 --> 00:37:02.562
There's a shroud or something.

00:37:02.562 --> 00:37:05.402
People take advantage of their role part of that anymore is that

00:37:05.402 --> 00:37:08.502
well he sounds like an independent guy yeah you know he's got an entrepreneurial

00:37:08.502 --> 00:37:11.402
spirit that's yeah and he loves martial arts but

00:37:11.402 --> 00:37:14.422
but he's connected it back to how you got to rise and tide we're

00:37:14.422 --> 00:37:17.322
trying to finish the story well well well i want to talk

00:37:17.322 --> 00:37:20.062
about what you're okay so i i went

00:37:20.062 --> 00:37:23.122
back to the sales role right i'm doing engineer sales

00:37:23.122 --> 00:37:26.522
so i i run through dc arlington okay and

00:37:26.522 --> 00:37:29.222
and my schedule was like all right

00:37:29.222 --> 00:37:31.982
i make my own schedule and i i give

00:37:31.982 --> 00:37:34.642
presentations to all these engineers so like i don't

00:37:34.642 --> 00:37:37.782
have a phd but i give presentations to people with phds

00:37:37.782 --> 00:37:40.942
i'm not like that that like know-it-all

00:37:40.942 --> 00:37:44.822
kid but i buy them like 300 launches and they

00:37:44.822 --> 00:37:47.682
listen to me talk for oh yeah so that's like my main

00:37:47.682 --> 00:37:50.502
job and then i'm like working on some data center schools

00:37:50.502 --> 00:37:53.562
and stuff like it like some other stuff and then

00:37:53.562 --> 00:37:56.362
uh and then that gym like i

00:37:56.362 --> 00:37:59.582
said my mommy hit me up and he's like all right um do

00:37:59.582 --> 00:38:02.762
you think you could you could run it and i'm like i can

00:38:02.762 --> 00:38:06.042
put a team together for sure for sure i can and uh

00:38:06.042 --> 00:38:11.202
you know it's a it's a good location right off the beltway right in the north

00:38:11.202 --> 00:38:17.662
side of dc um and we got all the right people to start this we're trying to

00:38:17.662 --> 00:38:24.382
grow the team kai's and mma is like 20 minutes away right and so we can just go train there anytime.

00:38:24.982 --> 00:38:27.742
And and get our rounds in and and like that's a

00:38:27.742 --> 00:38:30.482
harder gym but like scouting was saying like this is

00:38:30.482 --> 00:38:33.462
a a community gym first you're building

00:38:33.462 --> 00:38:37.282
it yeah yeah they're gonna come to you guys yeah yeah you

00:38:37.282 --> 00:38:40.682
know what i love about like our the

00:38:40.682 --> 00:38:43.482
speaking of the community what i love about like guys in

00:38:43.482 --> 00:38:46.302
martial arts is how i feel

00:38:46.302 --> 00:38:49.162
like the the the venn diagram of like conspiracy theory and like

00:38:49.162 --> 00:38:52.522
people involved in martial arts it's a big overlap dude

00:38:52.522 --> 00:38:58.402
and i think you touched upon it where it's like when you like i this is my my

00:38:58.402 --> 00:39:03.282
take on it i feel like like you said if you want to win a fight you have to

00:39:03.282 --> 00:39:06.502
have like a certain alignment with the truth like you just you can't afford

00:39:06.502 --> 00:39:11.102
to bullshit yourself with any delusions because like if you have a delusion about something.

00:39:12.277 --> 00:39:14.657
It's just, it's going to get in the way with reality. You're going to be faced

00:39:14.657 --> 00:39:17.637
with reality every single time you step under the mat, a cage,

00:39:17.957 --> 00:39:19.277
a box, like a fight, whatever.

00:39:19.437 --> 00:39:23.197
Two things off that is the highest emotion in the world.

00:39:23.437 --> 00:39:26.777
Like people think of you as a man, they think it's like love or hate,

00:39:27.277 --> 00:39:28.237
right? The highest emotion.

00:39:28.597 --> 00:39:32.897
It's, it's truth. It's being genuine, telling, telling the truth, being honest.

00:39:33.457 --> 00:39:37.737
And then the second part of that is sometimes you got to be delusional to win.

00:39:38.117 --> 00:39:41.357
There's no doubt about it. You have to have that optimism, that like that belief

00:39:41.357 --> 00:39:43.317
or that ambition. to be like, I can do better.

00:39:43.957 --> 00:39:48.337
There's like a hero's journey to it. We've talked about the delusion and loss too, right?

00:39:49.037 --> 00:39:53.817
You have to believe like, oh no, I am going to win next time.

00:39:54.137 --> 00:40:01.397
You have to have that certain amount of belief that this was just a step off the path.

00:40:02.097 --> 00:40:04.997
I'm going to get right back on it. I'm going to keep going. Because if you don't

00:40:04.997 --> 00:40:07.737
have that, you're going to just wallow in that defeat too. How about this?

00:40:08.077 --> 00:40:12.477
Be delusional when you win and tell yourself you lost. so next time that's what

00:40:12.477 --> 00:40:17.577
I do I honestly do that I heard that from Tim Walsh he's like just treat everyone

00:40:17.577 --> 00:40:21.617
like a loss so you gotta get better yeah whatever you did wrong you gotta hold

00:40:21.617 --> 00:40:25.637
yourself accountable we talked about that too recently yeah that's valid,

00:40:26.917 --> 00:40:30.697
no but I think I do think that there's like because of all of this like you

00:40:30.697 --> 00:40:35.497
said the reality facing reality truth we call it what's interchangeable for

00:40:35.497 --> 00:40:36.637
the sake of what I'm saying.

00:40:37.957 --> 00:40:43.957
Because people who do that have to have that relationship with reality brought

00:40:43.957 --> 00:40:45.197
to their face right away.

00:40:45.277 --> 00:40:47.237
Cause you're going to know it immediately. Like if, if I had the,

00:40:47.297 --> 00:40:51.837
if I was a real deal or not, uh, I think people involved in that smell bullshit really well.

00:40:52.717 --> 00:40:55.177
Thus, and maybe they like picking fights with bullies.

00:40:56.100 --> 00:40:57.660
I think everyone who kind of gets into it doesn't want to be like,

00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.180
you know, everyone maybe just had some, like, I don't want to get pushed around.

00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.180
All of us. That's why we're in this shit. And then you see these people lying

00:41:04.180 --> 00:41:07.480
to you about whatever, 9-11, you name it. Like, oh, these guys are bullshit.

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.500
And I'm going to call them out on it. And thus the relationship between conspiracy

00:41:11.500 --> 00:41:15.260
theories and martial arts where they're like, no, no, you're lying.

00:41:16.120 --> 00:41:19.560
That's some bullshit. And it's so in your face. There's also something to do

00:41:19.560 --> 00:41:26.640
with like the whole, like all martial arts, fighting arts, it's like it's constant troubleshooting.

00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:32.680
And so like the whole time you're, you are providing input to one person,

00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.960
they're providing an input to you and you're having to constantly process it.

00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:40.980
And so all the time you're trying to process what's coming at you while also trying to predict.

00:41:41.220 --> 00:41:45.940
And so there's just like a, there is that like troubleshooting questioning,

00:41:45.940 --> 00:41:52.800
like mindset that gets built when what you do is when that is like your process daily basis.

00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.760
This and so like you do constantly question

00:41:56.760 --> 00:42:00.020
things and you want to like figure out you

00:42:00.020 --> 00:42:05.680
want to figure things out too and so as you try to like figure out what's going

00:42:05.680 --> 00:42:09.940
on around you try to understand it greater and greater it opens up more and

00:42:09.940 --> 00:42:14.680
more windows to look into especially with like what you're being told versus

00:42:14.680 --> 00:42:18.180
what you're seeing versus what another person is seeing and so like you start

00:42:18.180 --> 00:42:19.580
to just see more of these,

00:42:19.580 --> 00:42:22.220
these gaps and like, all right, well,

00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:26.040
this is this, this person's saying this thing, this person's saying this thing,

00:42:26.140 --> 00:42:27.740
but like, what's going on here in the middle.

00:42:28.100 --> 00:42:31.400
And so you start to, I think people just start to question more stuff and start

00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.000
to want to understand things.

00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.100
And like, you might figure out what they're saying is true. You might figure

00:42:36.100 --> 00:42:38.740
out what there's, you know, what person A is saying is true,

00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.460
whatever. But like, I think.

00:42:42.651 --> 00:42:47.611
People who are in martial arts tend to have that more, you know, they want to learn.

00:42:47.771 --> 00:42:53.331
They want to be that like knowledge sponge. And so they just tend to seek out

00:42:53.331 --> 00:43:00.431
more information, even if it isn't because they're looking to find a conspiracy theory is true.

00:43:00.711 --> 00:43:04.711
It might just be that they want to understand what is happening around them

00:43:04.711 --> 00:43:10.031
at a greater rate than what or more than what someone else who's just,

00:43:10.111 --> 00:43:11.271
you know, not doing that.

00:43:11.811 --> 00:43:15.511
It's fast and and at the end of the day it's like you're

00:43:15.511 --> 00:43:18.971
a kid in the classroom you're not trying to get bullied and like

00:43:18.971 --> 00:43:22.131
and you're always trying to look at the big picture of the room right

00:43:22.131 --> 00:43:25.051
because there's always gonna be a room full of people you know wherever you

00:43:25.051 --> 00:43:29.091
go and it's like whatever situation whether business or the martial arts like

00:43:29.091 --> 00:43:33.351
always trying to learn and and kind of read the room and and just be strategic

00:43:33.351 --> 00:43:38.931
in general right we always have to be i think mao banned martial arts and the

00:43:38.931 --> 00:43:40.731
great leap forward Chinese.

00:43:41.931 --> 00:43:45.471
Like communist revolution you know like a decade like

00:43:45.471 --> 00:43:49.831
a hundred years ago or whatever maybe less pretty sure pretty sure he did he

00:43:49.831 --> 00:43:53.351
banned it yeah why probably because of this he's like he doesn't want a bunch

00:43:53.351 --> 00:43:56.811
of fucking dudes doing martial arts questioning shit all these martial arts

00:43:56.811 --> 00:44:02.351
people in power don't want people to push back the bullies yeah,

00:44:03.191 --> 00:44:06.131
so anyways if you're listening you should do some martial arts do martial arts

00:44:06.131 --> 00:44:10.291
start questioning everything Go to Rising Tide, go DMA, whatever's close. Yeah, BB.

00:44:11.331 --> 00:44:15.331
Feisty citizens. This is American way. We gotta like, hold people accountable. That's what you do.

00:44:15.531 --> 00:44:17.951
Battlefield. Even if you like Donald Trump, you don't like him,

00:44:18.051 --> 00:44:20.471
like you just, you fucking, you gotta hold, it's like the job of an American.

00:44:20.911 --> 00:44:23.531
Gotta like, you gotta like, keep these motherfuckers in check,

00:44:23.671 --> 00:44:26.891
man. It's so funny because I'll tell people, like I'm,

00:44:27.671 --> 00:44:32.691
never voted but uh if someone asked me like if someone so worked out to ask

00:44:32.691 --> 00:44:36.891
me what i voted for i just tell them i voted for kamala harris in three different

00:44:36.891 --> 00:44:41.151
states that's hilarious and they just they're like they're either like they

00:44:41.151 --> 00:44:44.251
don't know how to take it they give you a thumbs up,

00:44:44.731 --> 00:44:47.431
they're like hell yeah i did too oh i did

00:44:47.431 --> 00:44:50.691
two how'd you get three how'd you get three i was trying to go for four i

00:44:50.691 --> 00:44:54.351
was like and yeah most people just look at me like well you're

00:44:54.351 --> 00:44:58.431
not taking in this series this is serious i re-watched

00:44:58.431 --> 00:45:01.811
the south park episode the other day where it

00:45:01.811 --> 00:45:05.011
was like the voter died you guys remember that one a while back it was where

00:45:05.011 --> 00:45:11.191
like they were uh the kids were voting on a new school mascot and it was the

00:45:11.191 --> 00:45:15.251
giant douche or the turd sandwich that's like all the way back it's it's a throwback

00:45:15.251 --> 00:45:20.371
episode that's way back it is it's way back i think that's pre-2010 I think that's early 2000.

00:45:20.731 --> 00:45:26.271
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it was a good episode about how everyone's

00:45:26.271 --> 00:45:29.511
obsessed with getting people to vote.

00:45:29.611 --> 00:45:31.411
Like, you got to vote. You got to vote. You got to vote. You got to vote.

00:45:32.211 --> 00:45:33.411
Maybe you do, but whatever.

00:45:35.031 --> 00:45:39.171
But that was the core of the episode. It was Stan who was having the identity

00:45:39.171 --> 00:45:41.511
crisis. He's like, I don't want to vote for a turd sandwich or a douche.

00:45:41.991 --> 00:45:45.891
And he's got Cartman's. Because Cartman was the guy who propped up the turd

00:45:45.891 --> 00:45:50.691
sandwich. So he's like being sleazy as hell to get Stan to vote for the turd

00:45:50.691 --> 00:45:52.871
sandwich. He was trying to give him like favors and shit.

00:45:53.051 --> 00:45:56.211
And then Kyle, his other buddy, he's the one who created the giant douche.

00:45:56.431 --> 00:45:58.191
And Kyle was like, man, you have to vote.

00:45:58.711 --> 00:46:01.791
But really what he was doing was like, you have to vote, but you have to vote for my guy.

00:46:02.331 --> 00:46:06.371
Yeah, exactly. And so then Stan was all fucking jaded about it. Yeah, dude.

00:46:06.771 --> 00:46:11.551
It's like, I tell people all the time, like, all right, I really don't like

00:46:11.551 --> 00:46:13.551
telling people what to do unless they're paying me.

00:46:13.731 --> 00:46:15.791
Sure. Like to tell them what to do. Sure.

00:46:16.211 --> 00:46:20.171
So like, like, even though like someone comes to my class and I start telling

00:46:20.171 --> 00:46:24.671
them what to do, I'm like, all right, you have to do this, like to your full,

00:46:24.791 --> 00:46:29.391
uh, just like, give it your focus, give it your all focus right now, try to do it.

00:46:29.651 --> 00:46:33.411
And when it doesn't work, keep trying, try something new on it.

00:46:33.671 --> 00:46:38.351
Like everything you do isn't cookie cutter, right? There's a little nuance difference

00:46:38.351 --> 00:46:39.531
between almost everything.

00:46:39.811 --> 00:46:43.031
And for, and I'll try to do my best to show you the right technique.

00:46:43.031 --> 00:46:46.091
But at the end of the day when you're transitioning between

00:46:46.091 --> 00:46:49.091
moves and and we have different grips different bodies

00:46:49.091 --> 00:46:51.991
there's nothing cookie cutter about it so you

00:46:51.991 --> 00:46:55.271
have to find your own path like do what works for you yeah like don't follow

00:46:55.271 --> 00:47:00.931
me into my fire right like i want to go to fight my war and my own fire you

00:47:00.931 --> 00:47:04.231
don't have to follow me in there but like you got to fight your own fire one

00:47:04.231 --> 00:47:10.931
day you know yeah it's interesting i had i kind of like um i don't want to say i didn't yell at,

00:47:11.031 --> 00:47:14.591
but I like in one of my classes this week.

00:47:15.582 --> 00:47:18.282
Had to remind i told the guys who came and

00:47:18.282 --> 00:47:21.782
i'm like you all are paying me to tell you what to do right now like you said so

00:47:21.782 --> 00:47:24.542
i'm gonna do it but you gotta at least like while you're here like because

00:47:24.542 --> 00:47:27.262
here's the thing like during the class i'm like do what i'm telling you to

00:47:27.262 --> 00:47:30.162
trust me like for the purpose of what you said it's a little experiment like we're

00:47:30.162 --> 00:47:33.202
like in a lab here run the experiment and then you're you're

00:47:33.202 --> 00:47:36.222
gonna if you don't run the experiment i had a few people just kind of they wandered

00:47:36.222 --> 00:47:38.882
off the path they were doing this random other shit and i was like all right

00:47:38.882 --> 00:47:41.522
all right we have lots of classes you can

00:47:41.522 --> 00:47:44.242
do random other shit do your random other shit then but like right now do

00:47:44.242 --> 00:47:46.922
what i'm asking you to do because there's a purpose to it there's a

00:47:46.922 --> 00:47:50.122
reason i'm trying to show you i'm not saying you have to like you said always

00:47:50.122 --> 00:47:53.002
do this thing but like hear me out you've got

00:47:53.002 --> 00:47:55.962
about 45 minutes to an hour to actually work here just run

00:47:55.962 --> 00:47:58.622
the experiment if you don't run the experiment like you didn't come

00:47:58.622 --> 00:48:02.422
in and listen to your coach and that's kind of like on you for i

00:48:02.422 --> 00:48:05.522
mean the reason you're here is because you're you're paying someone and

00:48:05.522 --> 00:48:08.282
the the goods and services like we talked about earlier

00:48:08.282 --> 00:48:11.122
is like you're paying someone who knows more than you just do

00:48:11.122 --> 00:48:14.362
it for a little bit and then you're gonna go and you're gonna find out what

00:48:14.362 --> 00:48:17.762
works for you later but like at least right now like run the experiment yes

00:48:17.762 --> 00:48:21.682
that's a good way to put that to run the experiment that's how you learn and

00:48:21.682 --> 00:48:26.722
like it's it's so hard to uh no it's not hard to i always try to really like

00:48:26.722 --> 00:48:30.422
refocus every like 15 seconds on like who i'm trying to be.

00:48:31.162 --> 00:48:33.062
As an instructor, right?

00:48:33.342 --> 00:48:40.082
Like, uh, like my perfect version of myself would be, uh, I'm kind,

00:48:40.402 --> 00:48:42.302
courageous, and fun, right?

00:48:42.582 --> 00:48:46.642
Like I'm kind, but I'm a leader being courageous, telling them what to do, but I keep it fun.

00:48:46.942 --> 00:48:51.022
Like if I can live up to those three standards, every time I teach it,

00:48:51.162 --> 00:48:55.122
uh, like especially a kid's class, adults class, I don't feel too bad about it,

00:48:55.182 --> 00:48:58.522
but especially kids fast because it's important that they

00:48:58.522 --> 00:49:04.602
don't feel like intimidated right it's important that they find like yeah this

00:49:04.602 --> 00:49:08.462
is hard but i can i could become the best version of myself you want them to

00:49:08.462 --> 00:49:13.982
enjoy it like so they want to keep doing it too especially for kids yeah yeah

00:49:13.982 --> 00:49:17.502
it's not so serious and an adult isn't that serious too like.

00:49:18.310 --> 00:49:21.230
You know it can't be it can't be that serious

00:49:21.230 --> 00:49:24.250
but that's it's fun like fighting is so fun yeah

00:49:24.250 --> 00:49:27.710
i love i love just competing and

00:49:27.710 --> 00:49:30.610
winning and like you just gotta win dude

00:49:30.610 --> 00:49:35.170
so what's next okay so you got the you got boxing tonight what's the rest of

00:49:35.170 --> 00:49:41.710
the year look like for you yeah so the boxing tonight and then uh june 14th

00:49:41.710 --> 00:49:49.290
i am competing in the champions league uh title at like 180 something. Boxing.

00:49:50.270 --> 00:49:53.790
Where's that at? The Salisbury Center in Manassas. Okay.

00:49:55.610 --> 00:50:00.830
You said it's Champions League. Is that the name of the organization? Yeah. It's Brent Hess.

00:50:02.150 --> 00:50:05.610
I don't know when they started out, but they've done a few.

00:50:05.950 --> 00:50:09.650
It's just like a Cajillo promotion or a TCB promotion, but boxing.

00:50:09.890 --> 00:50:12.290
It's real nice. I enjoy it.

00:50:13.250 --> 00:50:17.970
They actually have a curtain up, like one half of it they could really pack

00:50:17.970 --> 00:50:20.990
that thing out but people have to love boxing man like,

00:50:21.610 --> 00:50:24.930
there's something i mean the the amateur boxing

00:50:24.930 --> 00:50:28.590
it's very uh like it's

00:50:28.590 --> 00:50:31.430
safe it for for real is safe so for people

00:50:31.430 --> 00:50:35.310
that are scared to compete in in amateur usa boxing um

00:50:35.310 --> 00:50:37.970
you should not be like it's it's

00:50:37.970 --> 00:50:41.070
literally the safest thing in the world the they make

00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:43.930
you do like a safe sport program it's not like jiu-jitsu

00:50:43.930 --> 00:50:47.130
where you can just sign up and you show up no they like vet you

00:50:47.130 --> 00:50:50.070
as a person but to be an athlete you got

00:50:50.070 --> 00:50:55.470
to get a physical and you have to get a booklet it's super strategic on the

00:50:55.470 --> 00:51:00.730
way they do their sanctioned boxing fights um and some have like really cool

00:51:00.730 --> 00:51:06.630
venues too like the navy yard and downtown dc by the nap stadium like the anthem

00:51:06.630 --> 00:51:09.870
no the navy yard is the bullpen.

00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:13.550
The bar at the bullpen with the sea containers. They just put a boxing ring

00:51:13.550 --> 00:51:16.370
coach shelf at Rising Tide MoCo. Is that outdoors?

00:51:16.690 --> 00:51:19.350
Outdoors. That's sick. In the middle of summertime. Hot as shit.

00:51:19.810 --> 00:51:23.410
It was like 100 degrees. Yeah, you're going to sweat. And then I was like,

00:51:23.530 --> 00:51:25.150
dude, I forgot to pour water down your head.

00:51:25.470 --> 00:51:30.410
Is it two-minute rounds? Three-minute rounds? If you have less than a certain

00:51:30.410 --> 00:51:31.890
number of fights, they do two minutes.

00:51:32.030 --> 00:51:35.650
And then once you have over a certain number of fights, they do three-minute rounds.

00:51:35.830 --> 00:51:38.810
Three threes. two uh or three twos

00:51:38.810 --> 00:51:42.410
but um yeah the the

00:51:42.410 --> 00:51:45.550
venues they they really need a i think

00:51:45.550 --> 00:51:49.130
boxing has a lot of room to grow so that's why i'm like investing in boxing

00:51:49.130 --> 00:51:54.930
in my gym because it's safe the judges the the referees like stop if your head

00:51:54.930 --> 00:51:59.050
snaps they have to like give you an eight or a ten count right like if you're

00:51:59.050 --> 00:52:04.690
if you just get shot like that you gotta uh they'll wave it off so to get knocked out, it takes a lot.

00:52:04.850 --> 00:52:08.970
I was going to ask if it's probably also like, if you think big picture about

00:52:08.970 --> 00:52:13.090
like your overall career, like you're going to get into MMA after you've done

00:52:13.090 --> 00:52:15.250
enough boxing, you're going to get back into MMA, but.

00:52:16.240 --> 00:52:21.160
Would think because there's not a ton of knockouts like you said you get you

00:52:21.160 --> 00:52:25.700
have to play the whole you basically have to like masterfully outwork the guy

00:52:25.700 --> 00:52:29.560
the entire three three minute round three three minute rounds from the full

00:52:29.560 --> 00:52:31.220
fight which means you get more experience,

00:52:31.780 --> 00:52:37.740
you get more you get more time in a fight because it's still a damn fight you

00:52:37.740 --> 00:52:41.540
get the comfort of like someone swinging at your head and your body and you

00:52:41.540 --> 00:52:43.000
have to like outwork them to be

00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:47.300
more effective the entire time it's not like if you go on this ko dude in like 35 seconds,

00:52:48.020 --> 00:52:54.480
that's good don't get me wrong but you're gonna get uh what is it that's 30 seconds is.

00:52:55.540 --> 00:52:58.260
Eight percent no it's more than that it's like 12

00:52:58.260 --> 00:53:01.460
percent 15 or whatever of the full

00:53:01.460 --> 00:53:04.540
of just one round right so if you do that you got

00:53:04.540 --> 00:53:07.560
you get five times i'm not sure i'm not guys i'm

00:53:07.560 --> 00:53:10.360
my math you know what i'm saying you get the full duration of the fight man you

00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.700
whatever there's some numbers involved today's it's.

00:53:13.700 --> 00:53:16.780
An eighth is it it's not

00:53:16.780 --> 00:53:19.480
enough well all i'm saying is that's nice at all but

00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.640
like i mean eventually like if if you're gonna get you're gonna

00:53:22.640 --> 00:53:25.380
get to a level where someone's gonna be as good as you and like okay so

00:53:25.380 --> 00:53:28.260
in that amateur boxing wear the headgear too right so you're protected

00:53:28.260 --> 00:53:31.960
like you said for good reason but like dude i mean that

00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.140
that gear i don't think it look

00:53:35.140 --> 00:53:38.260
it protects like the back of your head and like

00:53:38.260 --> 00:53:41.000
the sides of your head right uh it can

00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:43.780
deflect a little bit right but if you get

00:53:43.780 --> 00:53:46.640
hit square in the face like your dome's getting pieced up

00:53:46.640 --> 00:53:50.680
yeah so like i've had two ko's out

00:53:50.680 --> 00:53:54.280
of four of the wins uh and

00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.000
it's like well they're tko's like they're not the

00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.940
guy's not dropping dead on the on the ring right so

00:53:59.940 --> 00:54:02.660
it's like counted out yeah he's like falling into the

00:54:02.660 --> 00:54:06.460
ropes and he can't even stand up like he's struggling right um

00:54:06.460 --> 00:54:11.940
so yeah you you really want to push pace and create pressure and just work on

00:54:11.940 --> 00:54:17.860
and when it comes down to boxing like you got to have more tools than that guy

00:54:17.860 --> 00:54:24.080
you got to have more footwork you got to have more blocks more catches people forget like.

00:54:25.773 --> 00:54:29.013
Play pads with them if they're trying to hit you and then

00:54:29.013 --> 00:54:32.173
they won't even touch you you know and it's like how can

00:54:32.173 --> 00:54:35.553
i play pads and roll and then bop and and adding

00:54:35.553 --> 00:54:38.273
all these tools together is is what people miss out

00:54:38.273 --> 00:54:41.353
on it's not just if you have knockout power are they using a

00:54:41.353 --> 00:54:44.393
10 point must or are they using points yeah they're

00:54:44.393 --> 00:54:47.373
using 10 points oh yeah yeah so it's a 10 point must not

00:54:47.373 --> 00:54:50.533
like a not point fighting like olympic style or yeah

00:54:50.533 --> 00:54:53.653
not like like some uh sonder kickboxing tournaments

00:54:53.653 --> 00:54:56.793
like i i lost one match

00:54:56.793 --> 00:55:00.573
i was like one-on-one for the u.s capital classic and

00:55:00.573 --> 00:55:03.613
it's like they make you wear like all the the gear

00:55:03.613 --> 00:55:09.513
and with no legs boxing gloves chest headgear and that's points and that was

00:55:09.513 --> 00:55:14.253
pretty annoying yeah right well and when it goes to the four ounce gloves man

00:55:14.253 --> 00:55:20.693
like that experience the pressure yes i know how to avoid damage and then getting

00:55:20.693 --> 00:55:22.753
in there to inflict damage, it's going to become super important.

00:55:23.293 --> 00:55:28.373
Yeah, it's offense and defense combined. It's like, what other sport are you

00:55:28.373 --> 00:55:30.293
doing offense and defense at the same time?

00:55:30.733 --> 00:55:34.413
Think about it. I mean, is there any sport with a ball where you're doing offense

00:55:34.413 --> 00:55:35.593
and defense at the same time?

00:55:35.893 --> 00:55:38.833
Maybe ping pong. I don't know.

00:55:40.293 --> 00:55:45.733
Boxing equals ping pong? I hadn't thought about ping pong as an analogy for

00:55:45.733 --> 00:55:48.453
combat sports, but I do like offense and defense at the same time.

00:55:49.153 --> 00:55:51.933
It's one, yeah. They do want you do one they do one

00:55:51.933 --> 00:55:55.113
you do one yeah i like it i like it i don't

00:55:55.113 --> 00:56:00.233
know but it's uh it's fun dude there's some good uh fights tonight over there

00:56:00.233 --> 00:56:07.793
at the salisbury center um the guy i fought anthony fuller bro he's good like

00:56:07.793 --> 00:56:14.093
your last match yes he's good and is he fighting tonight yeah okay yeah and.

00:56:15.178 --> 00:56:18.438
Gonna win so i'm just i'm excited

00:56:18.438 --> 00:56:21.498
to see how he just like do you know if any of these other guys like him

00:56:21.498 --> 00:56:24.178
for example are they interested in getting to mma too are they

00:56:24.178 --> 00:56:28.318
what are they interested in mma as well the boxing

00:56:28.318 --> 00:56:31.498
guys yeah that cause it yeah so coach liam

00:56:31.498 --> 00:56:35.078
told all the all the fighters like you're not doing boxing unless

00:56:35.078 --> 00:56:37.918
you have credible or you're not doing mma unless you have incredible

00:56:37.918 --> 00:56:42.038
striking and so so

00:56:42.038 --> 00:56:44.798
they're letting us go back and forth um you know

00:56:44.798 --> 00:56:47.598
some of us do kickboxing and boxing but they

00:56:47.598 --> 00:56:50.418
want boxing out of all of us so we literally

00:56:50.418 --> 00:56:53.778
it was funny at the golden gloves the first the first

00:56:53.778 --> 00:56:56.838
day dude we had like oh man

00:56:56.838 --> 00:57:00.778
dude we had like maybe 10 or 15 fighters and coach

00:57:00.778 --> 00:57:04.118
kaiser or coach uh gustavo is like he's like

00:57:04.118 --> 00:57:06.938
liam what the fuck i have too many guy he was like liam you

00:57:06.938 --> 00:57:09.938
told all these mma fighters that they did usa boxing and

00:57:09.938 --> 00:57:12.618
now i don't have enough hand wrap like i need to

00:57:12.618 --> 00:57:15.358
wrap hands and coach gustavo is laying all the hand wraps out

00:57:15.358 --> 00:57:18.178
it's just like dude it's like oh that's a

00:57:18.178 --> 00:57:20.778
lot of hands it's 30 hands yeah so coach had to

00:57:20.778 --> 00:57:23.678
get a couple other guys yeah to roll roll hands oh

00:57:23.678 --> 00:57:26.718
i bet he was busy as fuck that day and it's just like he doesn't.

00:57:26.718 --> 00:57:29.758
Talk for like two hours right when we get there but now it's

00:57:29.758 --> 00:57:32.778
it's nice tonight he's gonna show up it's gonna be in

00:57:32.778 --> 00:57:39.798
like uh a man and then two females from guys in and uh it's gonna be a fun time

00:57:39.798 --> 00:57:45.298
man well i'd tell you good luck but i don't wanna yeah i mean it's a good good

00:57:45.298 --> 00:57:51.718
preparation meets opportunity yeah luck is is when preparation meets opportunity hell yeah.

00:57:52.825 --> 00:57:57.325
Anything, Mikey? I'm in. It's good. I think we touched on it all.

00:57:57.465 --> 00:57:59.985
We got kind of the backstory for Rising Tide.

00:58:01.085 --> 00:58:05.165
We got to... I like that we did talk about Tower 7 for a little bit.

00:58:05.305 --> 00:58:07.145
That was good. Got a little bit of conspiracy theories. That was good.

00:58:07.785 --> 00:58:11.065
We wove. That was the farthest wove. That was good, wove. Weave.

00:58:11.425 --> 00:58:16.645
I guess the cap to that weave is just like, man, a lot of people just work for

00:58:16.645 --> 00:58:19.425
someone and they tell you what to do.

00:58:19.705 --> 00:58:22.365
And it's like, do you believe in what you're doing? Right?

00:58:22.825 --> 00:58:27.405
And it's like, genuinely, like you may or may not be hurting anyone, right?

00:58:27.665 --> 00:58:32.165
Or indirectly or directly like affecting anybody. You might be doing a great job.

00:58:32.485 --> 00:58:35.065
But it's like, dude, sometimes it's like who you're working for.

00:58:35.225 --> 00:58:38.425
It's like, like, and they try to manipulate you in a certain way.

00:58:38.605 --> 00:58:40.985
It doesn't have to be the government. It could be any employer.

00:58:41.565 --> 00:58:44.305
It's like, dude, you shouldn't tell people what to do unless.

00:58:44.725 --> 00:58:47.665
Well, it's a lot of leverage for someone to have like a company to say,

00:58:47.705 --> 00:58:50.365
we are your livelihood because this is your paycheck.

00:58:50.845 --> 00:58:54.705
Yeah, dude. That was a big motivating factor. Me wanting to not work for anyone.

00:58:54.905 --> 00:58:57.625
I'm like, I don't want someone having that much leverage over me.

00:58:58.125 --> 00:59:01.545
I'd rather, if I'm going to fuck up and fail my life, it's because of me.

00:59:01.705 --> 00:59:03.345
You want it on your own. Yeah.

00:59:03.625 --> 00:59:09.805
I mean, that was a big one for me. I'm like, yo, man. I can't do anything about this. I'm hopeless.

00:59:10.525 --> 00:59:14.045
That's how you drown people is make them feel hopeless.

00:59:14.685 --> 00:59:17.545
And it's like. There is hope. Yeah, for sure.

00:59:17.885 --> 00:59:23.625
There's always hope. There's always hope. So would you say, would you say that like, you know, kind of.

00:59:24.730 --> 00:59:27.830
Truthful to yourself like pushing making sure

00:59:27.830 --> 00:59:30.690
that you're doing the thing that's best for

00:59:30.690 --> 00:59:33.510
you even if it's a little scary like i mean i'm

00:59:33.510 --> 00:59:36.710
going through similar stuff like in that realm of like trying

00:59:36.710 --> 00:59:39.730
to find you're trying to find like the

00:59:39.730 --> 00:59:42.870
path the path for yourself and like having those things

00:59:42.870 --> 00:59:46.010
of like you know all right what's the what

00:59:46.010 --> 00:59:48.990
is the truest thing to me where what

00:59:48.990 --> 00:59:52.390
is going to be the best for me the people that i support and

00:59:52.390 --> 00:59:55.210
like what's what's gonna make the best

00:59:55.210 --> 01:00:02.090
version of myself um so like you know i i totally get that right like that having

01:00:02.090 --> 01:00:06.270
having everything be on someone else's terms and like feeling you don't have

01:00:06.270 --> 01:00:10.710
to be under that thumb like you're saying you don't have to be there and so

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like awesome yeah it's freedom dude it's a freedom and like.

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Abundance is freedom like a lot of people think like

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lack they'll they'll lack like oh focus

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on what i lack but literally like quantum

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mechanics teaches us like if you focus on

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what you're lacking then it'll manifest in your

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life like that lack but if you if you focus

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on a little delusion and saying it's abundant

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like i'm happy and grateful for what

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i have then it'll it'll bring energy

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to you the ether will bring it to you and you

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just have to believe in it um i truly

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believe in that like you can manifest anything if

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you like put your mind to it you know and you know we're fortunate to have the

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opportunity you know we have two eyes two arms two legs right like a lot of

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people are missing just those basics that we take for granted every day so so

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we might as they'll be like who we're supposed to be like humans,

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like we're meant to create.

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Right. And, you know, try to paint this canvas in our life. Hell yeah, man.

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Yeah. That was awesome. I've run it out, man. Cool, man. Uh,

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well, thanks again. Thank you, especially Dallas to Cody for coming out.

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