(Ep 53) Fighters Drinking Coffee Turns One...Again!

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee. And today is our birthday.

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Happy birthday to Fighters Drinking Coffee. Also, happy birthday to Asim,

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by the way. Aw. It's his birthday tomorrow.

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We promised him. I promised him. I made promises to tell him happy birthday

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on the show. So, happy birthday, Asim.

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Happy birthday, Asim. But more importantly, happy birthday to Fighters Drinking

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Coffee. So actually, exactly one year ago today, the first episode of Fighters

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Drinking Coffee dropped.

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Fire drinking coffee 2.0 but you know what we're rolling with that it's a new

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beginning it's a brand new thing um you know so fire drinking coffee one year

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anniversary show coming at you guys uh,

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and because it's the first year one full year i

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figured we'd talk about our lead off talking about all

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the things that uh the last year

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has learned and we can reflect on how how

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have we grown as people because of the podcast or whatever

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uh but you know like so we're gonna we're gonna take you

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guys down a little walk down memory lane we'll talk about uh the last year of

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the podcast with us and some other fun things from the from some uh fans of

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the show we got a couple fun topics um that were responded or responded commented

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yes commented is how we received them uh so we got some cool, cool fan,

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fan topics that we're going to hit on to.

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Um, but you know, first, the first full year of Fire's Drinking Coffee,

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um, Scott, what, what did you, what's, name one thing.

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We'll go from there, but we released an episode every single week,

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which was something we had talked about doing.

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We were like, let's, for those of you who have been long time listeners And

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some of you are out there.

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You know we did this a while back. We did this about seven or eight years ago plus.

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And we had fun. We had a lot of fun. We were rough around the edges,

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as we've discussed lots of times.

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We will drop some of those episodes for you, by the way. They will reach the

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light of day once again. The archives.

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Yeah. But one of the things we wanted to do this go around was make it a little more consistent and uh.

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Better, polished. And yeah, I think dropping an episode every week was good.

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I'm glad we did that.

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That's the first thing that comes to mind, Michael. Yeah, I think the only week

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we took off was we did not release an episode the week of Christmas.

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That was scheduled, though. Yeah, that was the only one we didn't do, and that was on purpose.

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Because one, we figured it would not be listened to. You guys have other things to do.

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We didn't want to take away your family time. because i think it was like christmas

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eve okay i think that was the would have been the drop date so we we moved it

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to the next week okay um so but other than that that was scheduled that was planned.

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But yeah i mean the consistency was we were on point we

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kept up with it uh which was really good i

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mean especially like that was something that we

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kind of i mean we kind of had

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to that was a promise we made to ourselves right like we're going to be consistent

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this time around because the first time yeah we were kind

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of all over the place um and we

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made it happen but yeah we just kind of dropped whenever whenever we

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made it happen like you said it was it was not um we

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weren't we didn't really have any we were

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just winging it oh yeah we weren't adhering to like any

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sort of protocol on it so um i

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was glad that we did that yeah and like uh this time

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around like i actually learned how to edit episodes

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i don't think we were really doing that before

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we were lucky that the first few we had somebody doing it for

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us yeah um shout out to ryan for

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that shout out to ryan yeah wherever he is i don't know if he listens to this

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anymore he probably don't know uh he's flying jet planes actually which is pretty

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cool that is pretty cool uh but before that he was editing our editing the podcast

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for free for a few months um.

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But, so like this time around, I learned how to actually edit the show.

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And, you know, some of you guys might have heard some of the initial attempts to that.

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We had a little bit of, and we went back and actually remastered a bunch of them.

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So a lot of them, we got like background noise out and kind of fixed the spacing. It's not as.

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Remastered. Loud, yeah, remastered. Just like Star Wars. Yeah,

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just like Star Wars. Just like Star Wars, I remastered those.

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We talked about Star Wars a lot. We did talk a lot.

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And that was in like the last three months. We were jamming on Star Wars.

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We were jamming on that. Which I like. We're not going to let it go.

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No, no, no. Star Wars, I think it's got legs, dude.

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This podcast is much like Star Wars. It won't go away. It won't go away. We'll keep it coming.

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We're going to sell it to Disney. Ooh. I mean, hey. If we sell to Disney. We are for sale.

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Yeah, I mean. Disney, if you're listening. Some cash would be nice from Disney.

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Is that Disney money, dude?

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That's a lot of money. Yeah, dude. Get you some ears. Oh, yeah.

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I'll wear Mickey Mouse ears bro I'd be a hero We could get you like a Boba Fett

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helmet Oh yeah Or a Darth Vader helmet,

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We'll just be recording with Star Wars gear on Fuck yeah Alright we'd have to

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We'd have to clean up our language though If we were going to get bought by

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Disney So maybe they won't buy us That's fine I'm not worried about it.

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Yeah we figured that out We got some cool um,

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You know, we got the editing down, which was a pretty, I mean,

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heck, I think that was great. We really figured out sound quality compared to before.

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Like before we were just going for it. We had one microphone and we'd record wherever we were.

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We decided mostly to speak about Jiu-Jitsu too. Yeah, we also.

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Because we talked about all kinds of crap on the old episodes,

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which was awesome. Don't get me wrong. I still like that.

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But we've relatively focused on a lane.

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Yeah we decided to stick within our uh our area

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of expertise which is more so

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jujitsu i mean we've had guests that

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come on and do branch out and we'll get to we want to

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keep doing that which we do like but that's their area

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of expertise not ours like we have these guests come on we'll talk about

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some guests in a minute but we we've had guests come on and

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you know part of the fun of having the guests come on is letting them talk yeah

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we want them letting them they want to talk about something

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platform yeah we give them a platform let them run and uh

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sometimes jiu-jitsu comes up it does we we try to at

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least talk about that all the time to jiu-jitsu that way

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at least the people who are listening specifically for jiu-jitsu

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content get it but you know sometimes people have things they want to talk about

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things they know about like really well sometimes stuff that i don't know i

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don't know if it's 100 true or not well you know whatever it's not my job to

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judge that i don't know it's fun we got some cool fun stuff out of it seekers

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okay we're gonna go We're just going to go into the... We'll see.

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Whatever comes up, we're happy with it. That's right. We're happy to hear it.

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It's been fun. We've had some cool people from all around the area.

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Got to meet a lot of people. Actually, a couple days after this comes out,

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we're going to be hanging out with some of the people that we've interviewed,

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which will be really cool.

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So, this comes out Tuesday. That Friday, so on Friday, we'll be going down to

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Dallas, and we're going to be hanging with the ladies from Unbreakable Jiu-Jitsu.

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That's right. Unbreakable Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah.

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Camp god dude my out of genesis sorry guys

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i'm cutting weight right now uh but yeah the uh carrie and

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mindy from genesis um so we're gonna go visit

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them for the first day we're down there we'll see them all

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weekend i'm sure right um you know so like we have we're gonna get to because

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of this like we know people kind of around it's cool which is really cool um

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that was one of the things the first time around that was awesome and we're

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doing that again you know we're

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kind of building like this cool fighter drinking coffee network um um,

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You know, and that's great because it gives us, we're able to leverage that

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in ways because we create these relationships with people that.

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We wouldn't ordinarily have. Yeah, we wouldn't be able to meet them before or

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we strengthen relationships we have with people in the area, right?

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Like Tim, Knack, like. So on and so forth. Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, so I think I gathered a lot from that.

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I kind of figured out I this helps me the

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show has helped me talk through like my jujitsu stuff too

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like I don't know when we start talking about

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all this stuff when we get into like the theory episodes um it's

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definitely like helped me kind of have my light bulb moments on

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some stuff you know like oh yeah like oh and this

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is when I'm doing this thing like oh yeah I actually yeah

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you're connecting dots yeah you're you're exploring the

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mindset of your martial art yeah

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live for the listeners to experience get

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to have that extra layer outside of um just being

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on the mat physically doing it which is great doing it

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physically is why we do it that's the fun but it's cool

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getting that that extra depth and layer and oh no

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it's made me i don't know just doing the podcast i feel like has

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made me better at jujitsu oh man i mean look you all

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hear that did the listeners hear that you guys and it will make

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you better yeah yeah that's right and make you guys better jujitsu if you listen

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yeah that's right talking it through yeah yeah thinking it through uh thinking

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and speaking at the same time it's the way to go yeah i mean so this is this

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is our version of the uh post-match breakdowns right like we kind of come on

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here and talk through what happened and it helps us,

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I don't know. Figure it out. It does. You get to, you get to,

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you're a part of it. Yeah. You got, you guys listening helps me.

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But yeah, man. So like that's, do you have any other takeaways from the first year of doing this?

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Do you want to shout out some, some guests since we're talking,

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since we're, might as well do that now.

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We got some questions from, from listeners that we'll dive into as well. Time permitting.

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I don't know if we'll get through all of them, but we'll hit,

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we'll hit as many as we can.

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There's some good ones. There's some, some really good ones on here,

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but, Yeah, we're appreciative for all of you, and we will get them.

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So, yeah, I mean, guess, right? I've got a couple ideas. Do you want to do power rankings?

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Maybe we do power rankings. Here's the thing. One thing I also thought was cool

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is we had a couple buddies on the show throughout the year, too,

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who have had their own podcasts, started their own podcasts,

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which is pretty fun to see.

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The guys, BJ and his buddy Alex.

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Alex, he started the Tap Off in podcasts, that's pretty cool to see.

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They're good on the mic. They were fun to have on.

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That was around the Movember fights. Yeah, so we had them on because they were

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hosting the Movember fights in Lorton.

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Capital MMA Lorton. He now actually owns, he's a part owner now, Capital MMA Herb.

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I know he listened to the show we we know that we helped inspire the podcast

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and you going to become a part owner it's cool they're taking credit for that

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sure why not is he owe you money,

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i don't think so i didn't give him money oh okay he doesn't know me money but

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think about it bj i'd like to i'd like to yeah i mean think about it i'll take

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money michael take your money i'll take some i know he doesn't owe it to me

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but yeah i was just having some fun if somebody wants to give me money,

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man. That's pretty cool with me.

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Food for thought. If you guys want to give me money, Mike will take the money. Mike will take money.

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I am happy to separate people from their cash should they desire to.

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Willingly choose to do that.

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Yeah, well, that was a fun, I mean, they were cool.

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I think that was through your network of guys. You knew them before I knew them,

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and I enjoyed talking to those dudes. They were fun.

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I've listened to their show. It's cool. I highly recommend people check that

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out. it's also just like you said fun to see like a couple dudes come on they're

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running the podcast they're doing cool stuff they're working on interesting projects trying to.

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You know evolve what they do in life which is badass

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and if you like if honestly if you guys are listening to

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this podcast you'll like theirs it's it's slightly different

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topically but it's it's a you know

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it's two dudes they're friends they work well

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together they have very good like that fun chemistry

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they're having a fun time so like i if

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you like this show you'll like their show so check them out tap often podcast

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everywhere i mean wherever you're listening to this they're there i they are

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there yeah so um yeah dude i like especially like they kind of have uh they

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kind of have like characters right like especially alex alex has developed this like.

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Mysteriousness around him apparently that i

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i found especially when they're on the show like i found it

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enjoyable um and like they

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poke fun at each other all the time all the time

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um so it's they're they're

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cool and yeah like you said like it was really cool seeing them go to a another

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um go start their thing and like

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their podcast is cool like feel you feel like

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and actually i think on the first episode you said like this

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helped us being on our show helped them kind

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of get inspired to do their own um we got

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a raff from the grappling hour on yeah that was

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that was really cool too it was more more podcast networking

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um dude talking pro wrestling

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that was awesome i love talking progress cutting promos with

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raf dude cutting promos is yeah that

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was uh that was an awesome episode also that's another

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that's another person i hope we get out to see at some point yeah that'd be

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awesome uh our west coast so that's tough yeah our schedules have our travel

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schedules haven't quite lined up either like he's sometimes he will would be

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at something i think he's doing the pgf right now isn't he yeah so right now

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he's doing pgf uh they just did their finish their first week. Yep.

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And it's a longer season this time because usually it's one week.

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But so they're actually doing like a season season.

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So yeah, he's... He does...

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He's commentating and I think he does post-fight stuff, too, for them.

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Because I think he has the bullpen is what he runs. He runs the bullpen around it, the bullpen show.

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So, yeah, he's doing that right now. We'll be still doing that, which is really cool.

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So check him out, too. Grappling Hour is the podcast, but you can also check out the bullpen.

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Keep an eye on what he's doing with the PGF. PGF, like Mike said,

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is going to be going for a little bit.

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Yeah, you should be able to watch that. They're on Fight Pass, right?

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I'm not sure. I can look that up. Yeah, look that up. Look that up.

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Just for... Yeah, I think they're on Fight Pass.

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Because I think they're... Because they do the last... It might even be in Vegas right now.

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But I know the final has historically been in Vegas.

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Maybe even at Apex. Because they do a cool thing with the small private show thing.

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It's pretty cool another cool one we had on,

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I actually really enjoyed Tim Dawson's episode oh yeah that was cool I mean

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like so we talked about we'll let them talk and let them platform whatever they want to platform,

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I did not expect that episode to go away I had a hunch man.

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Tim's gonna do what Tim does I got stuff to say that was a good one That wasn't

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exactly what I expected.

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You know, and like... I thought it was great. That was exactly what I expected.

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I just had expected something. Yeah. Yeah.

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But like... It was good. It was good, man. So, you know, if you hadn't heard

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the episode, listen to it. But like...

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The passion the I mean the man cares right is

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this a guy who cares about he was a he was a lawyer on

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Capitol Hill like he cares about justice and so

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he was he was kind of riffing on his his takes on the world the world and civil

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liberties and stuff like that it was really cool we got a lot of really good

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feedback from listeners on that episode too which was awesome another one we

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got really good listener feedback on was Big John Christian,

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Psy Doctor Tell me some of the feedback, that one came out last week,

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I haven't I mean, so that was probably, I think that's one of our longest episodes.

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Just barely beat out I think it was, I think Tim's was close to,

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but that was a two hour long episode, it was a long one We probably would have kept going,

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It was good, we're gonna have to do a follow up, but sure

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um yeah like people were

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super into one all the training

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partners all of our training partners were like dude you're a he was they're

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like john you're a psychopath you want to beat people up in front of their family

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yeah he ruled which is that was awesome um and

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he did be he beat the the dude brought his wife and kids

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to master's worlds and john beat him up cost of

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doing business um but yeah i mean like the

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all that sports psych stuff right like all that

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performance psychology finding the trigger finding like

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i dude i loved it that was like all

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because that's like that's like the the deep dive missing piece that a lot of

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people have in competition and a lot of guys like dude like i didn't even think

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about like fight that those moments like those things like competition anxiety

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is a lot of people's biggest biggest hurdle yeah um and you know,

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One way to do it is just keep doing it, yes, but some people never really find,

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like, they keep doing, keep doing it, and just never, they can't get a handle

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on it, because it's not going to go away, right?

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And, like, even John, he's competed for years, almost 30, 30,

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yeah, like, he's been competing his whole life, basically.

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And even he said, like, he doesn't, it's not, he doesn't have zero anxiety,

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he just knows how to handle and control it.

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And i guess if you never find the system

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you you won't figure that out um

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and so you know you had a lot of cool insight into

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what he does or like ideas and stuff

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like that we're gonna have to have him back and like do a much deeper dive into

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it um but you know he was gave us

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a lot of cool information he did uh from like a

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scientific right like a actual like clinical standpoint

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of handling that stuff because you know we can

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tell you what we do but there's no real science behind

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it or there wasn't now there might be because now we

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have now we have someone to to work with on it but um

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you know there there was it's just kind of how we

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do it and it wasn't really scientific and now there's kind of a oh no i have

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a jumping off point for it now yeah yeah we have a we have an expert were there

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people who gave us like specific feedback um i just got lots of positive feedback

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okay just just people really enjoyed the topics and and all of that um,

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And so, you know, there's just a lot of, I didn't have any, like, notes.

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It was just a lot of, like, man, that was, like, really, really informational.

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People really enjoyed that, like, that content, that episode.

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I loved doing that episode, man. It was fun.

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And, you know, honestly, like, if that longer format, if people like that,

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that might be, we might start having slightly longer episodes. He's our Dr. Drew.

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Yeah. We might have to, maybe we'll just have to start having a. Dr. John.

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Because we could do a segment. he doesn't necessarily have to be on,

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but I can, I mean, we can get, he's very segmentable.

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I can, I have, we have unlimited, yeah, I can, if we do listener questions,

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I can get information from him.

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Even if he isn't physically here, we can get a, a, ask Dr.

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John, dear John, dear John, we'll have a dear John, dear John segments.

00:20:02.072 --> 00:20:04.832
Maybe we'll have to do that. Well, maybe we'll start, we'll,

00:20:04.972 --> 00:20:08.532
you guys started sending us your questions for big John and,

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Once we collect some, I'll start getting some Dear John answers.

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We'll get some. I'll give him, I'll have him write his response and we'll read

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it off. It'll be like a, it'll be, it'll be, yeah, Dear John.

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I think the cool thing about this is that all the people you've talked to,

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and there's a lot of other folks that we had on that we may not be able to shout out today, but.

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It would take us a while. It would take us a while. But the cool thing about

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like even what you just said there and some of the other guys we were describing

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was that having these guys on has kind of given us some ideas slash opportunities

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to explore other lanes, other channels on this podcast.

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And that one, obviously, the John episode,

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makes a ton of sense given what we talked about earlier insofar as we have focused

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a bit more in the last year around staying in our lane on jiu-jitsu,

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not that we won't branch out into other stuff, But with that said,

00:21:05.917 --> 00:21:07.497
obviously for ourselves,

00:21:07.837 --> 00:21:11.297
for guys like John and honestly a ton of our guests, like a lot of our guests

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that we've had on are either actively competing or have competed a bunch of times in the past.

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But to have that angle, I think most of that's rooted in how relevant it is

00:21:19.757 --> 00:21:21.337
for the two of us, since this is our show.

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But a lot of people listening to our newer competitors or, you know,

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have perhaps been competing in some capacity in a combat sport for a little while.

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Like, I think that subject matter resonates a lot. So that's why that episode

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was so cool. I mean, I've listened to it myself.

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I'll re-listen to it, but.

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What I'm trying to get at here is that, you know, John, whoever,

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like all these folks we've talked to, like we've, we've kind of,

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we've got different ideas and different things.

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We're learning more because we're, I think we're a little more intentional about

00:21:55.907 --> 00:21:58.187
this whole podcast experience. Yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely. And we're, we're trying to, if you've noticed the first few

00:22:03.987 --> 00:22:09.307
months of this year too, like we even tried to get even more focused, right?

00:22:09.487 --> 00:22:12.407
Like we're becoming even more intentional with like we're

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curating we're curating our episodes in

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a specific way like um everything we're

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trying to make everything flow together so far this year which has

00:22:21.687 --> 00:22:24.687
been pretty cool like we've had like a pretty cool chain of thought with hey

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here's a here's a speaking of change of thought are you looking at the do the

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globe up by i did so that was what let's

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shut out some countries uh so this is

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over the last year what i'm describing mike is

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looking at the global reach and maybe we

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can do some states too but whatever i'll break down the states that'll

00:22:42.187 --> 00:22:45.347
that'll be next we can see where our listeners are coming

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from we are international oh

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yeah um we have the united states number

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one that is our number one number one followed by the united

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kingdom we've got we are they love us in

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the uk oh do they like that that's our number too followed

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by germany and canada okay india spain

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australia hong kong singapore france austria japan ireland brazil lithuania

00:23:15.867 --> 00:23:25.427
denmark argentina norway pakistan croatia mexico nicaragua dude we're everywhere netherlands um.

00:23:26.724 --> 00:23:30.384
Philippines russia sweden belgium

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cyprus estonia italy kenya i

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think we have we i think we've touched every continent yeah yeah but i think

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so oh i mean we we we have touched every continent we are we are global oh nepal

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to poland romania thailand south africa azerbaijan colombia egypt Finland, Ghana, Greece.

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Indonesia, Isle of Man.

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Isle of Man. Yeah. We made it to the Isle of Man. We have one person in the

00:24:00.804 --> 00:24:02.144
Isle of Man listening. I love that.

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Iraq, Morocco, Malaysia, Portugal, Slovenia, and then there's two people who

00:24:08.024 --> 00:24:14.804
have no geographic location. What does that mean? It's like the unregistered countries?

00:24:15.084 --> 00:24:18.124
They might, you know, they're just using their, maybe.

00:24:18.544 --> 00:24:22.524
We're in the face. Yeah, dude. Cool, man. we're crossed dude i'm into that maybe

00:24:22.524 --> 00:24:25.844
we're gonna solve some global crises yeah dude uh so i mean we're we've touched

00:24:25.844 --> 00:24:27.404
every continent over the past

00:24:27.404 --> 00:24:32.544
year um and then i mean we've we only have a few states missing we have,

00:24:33.197 --> 00:24:39.377
We're in all but one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine states. Okay.

00:24:40.037 --> 00:24:42.337
So we are, we have- We're 80% of the way through the United States.

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We've almost got every state. So if you know anyone in Idaho- Yeah, holler at us.

00:24:46.817 --> 00:24:50.057
Get them listening because they're- What are the top five states? What do we got?

00:24:50.237 --> 00:24:55.997
Our top five states are Virginia, Maryland, D.C., California, and New York.

00:24:56.217 --> 00:24:59.037
All right. Closely followed by New Jersey. Okay.

00:24:59.977 --> 00:25:05.777
We have the south and the eastern seaboard pretty well. Colorado is in there too.

00:25:05.957 --> 00:25:09.237
Okay. But we have a nice little band around the country. We're taking over the

00:25:09.237 --> 00:25:12.337
East Coast. Yeah, the East Coast. We're doing well on the East Coast.

00:25:14.057 --> 00:25:18.337
Florida? Florida. We got Florida? We got people in Florida.

00:25:18.977 --> 00:25:23.297
California and Colorado are the only ones in the top 10 that aren't East Coast.

00:25:23.417 --> 00:25:25.637
Okay. So pretty good. Pretty good.

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Kentucky's a little behind, but that's okay.

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You need to get on your list. It's okay. They're beating my state of Louisiana,

00:25:33.377 --> 00:25:35.217
though. Okay, okay. You know.

00:25:36.297 --> 00:25:39.237
Fucking get up, Louisiana. Get up, Kentucky.

00:25:39.677 --> 00:25:44.877
We need to. We are missing the. We're missing, like, the. I don't even know what is. Let me see.

00:25:45.537 --> 00:25:49.037
I'm good at the country, dude. What portion of the country is that?

00:25:49.237 --> 00:25:52.117
What do you refer to? The, like, Rocky Mountains area? Oh, yeah.

00:25:52.197 --> 00:25:54.897
Those guys. I mean, they're out, dude. The North Rockies. They're doing Yellowstone shit.

00:25:55.077 --> 00:25:59.977
Yeah, sir. We got Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana are just fucking around.

00:26:00.177 --> 00:26:02.497
South Dakota, Iowa. No, sorry, Nebraska.

00:26:03.077 --> 00:26:06.997
No, I'm sorry, Kansas. Yeah, so like who needs them? Who needs them?

00:26:06.997 --> 00:26:10.937
Just kidding. New Mexico, because we got Arizona. We're missing Arkansas and Alabama.

00:26:11.337 --> 00:26:14.117
Yeah. And maybe Alaska. It's okay. We don't need Alabama. What about Alaska?

00:26:14.277 --> 00:26:15.737
No. We're missing Alaska.

00:26:16.277 --> 00:26:19.457
No, we'll take Alabama. We need the North Rockies. We do.

00:26:19.697 --> 00:26:23.197
Northern Rockies, and then. We need the Tetons. We need like the people around

00:26:23.197 --> 00:26:25.257
the Tetons to step up their fucking game. Yeah.

00:26:25.397 --> 00:26:28.757
Then we need the Bible Belt to pick it up, too. We're doing all right in most

00:26:28.757 --> 00:26:31.597
of the Bible Belt, but it looks like the middle of it.

00:26:32.360 --> 00:26:36.220
Kansas, Arkansas, Alabama, New Mexico.

00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:39.720
You guys have put on notice. Tornado Alley. We're putting you on notice,

00:26:39.780 --> 00:26:42.300
dude. They're too busy running from tornadoes. I guess so.

00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.540
Podcasts haven't gotten around to that area yet. Now we know what states we

00:26:46.540 --> 00:26:50.000
can talk shit about. But yeah, I mean, that's pretty cool.

00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:56.100
That's kind of cool. We're touching it. We've gotten all settled portions of

00:26:56.100 --> 00:26:56.820
Australia. Oh, dude, of Australia.

00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.360
Yeah, I can see where in other countries. We have covered.

00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:05.140
The UK? We have covered the UK. Good, man. The lads.

00:27:06.020 --> 00:27:08.880
And Germany. Germany is pretty good. Germany, too, huh? We have a pretty good

00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:10.520
grip on the Germans, too. Which part of that?

00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.280
Do you know where Stuttgart is? I'm trying to figure. I wonder if we've met

00:27:13.280 --> 00:27:14.360
in the Porsche country yet.

00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.760
So, let's see. Munich. That's Berlin.

00:27:18.840 --> 00:27:22.780
Yeah, we crush Berlin. We've got all of that. Shout out to Berlin.

00:27:24.340 --> 00:27:29.600
Bayern, Berlin. The Saxon region. The Saxon region. I'm going to look up where

00:27:29.600 --> 00:27:31.620
Stuttgart is. This is Peter Soxen.

00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:37.600
The Baden-Wurtenberg. Written in Nordheim, Westfallen. Utgart.

00:27:38.180 --> 00:27:39.540
But yeah, we got a pretty good...

00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:44.040
I think that's near... Let me see. I think that's in... Stuttgart. Let me see.

00:27:44.580 --> 00:27:48.460
It's near Frankfurt. Yeah, so that's... No, we made it. We made it.

00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:50.200
We've got it. It's in the northern section.

00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:52.620
Got it. Thank God. It's...

00:27:53.632 --> 00:27:59.392
That part nailed it so we've got porsche's we got porsche's so porsche hit us up sub.

00:28:00.392 --> 00:28:03.252
But yeah i'll be back porsche so you know that i i

00:28:03.252 --> 00:28:06.052
that was a i was while you were talking about i was like i need to

00:28:06.052 --> 00:28:09.212
see where we've been where the podcast is

00:28:09.212 --> 00:28:12.352
hitting it's pretty cool touched a lot we've we've had

00:28:12.352 --> 00:28:15.952
guests from the uk so i'm not as i've

00:28:15.952 --> 00:28:18.852
also been on a few uk podcasts i'm actively trying

00:28:18.852 --> 00:28:21.932
to take over take over the uk market i guess

00:28:21.932 --> 00:28:25.192
they need they they could use it i'm glad that that's

00:28:25.192 --> 00:28:28.172
paid off it has um you know we had we had uh andy

00:28:28.172 --> 00:28:31.032
andy games um and we had

00:28:31.032 --> 00:28:34.852
uh adam adam forster which he's a

00:28:34.852 --> 00:28:40.152
fun he's he's a cool dude he's a cool dude um he's a nice part of the uh nice

00:28:40.152 --> 00:28:47.792
part of the jujitsu like yeah and like he's he's he's got his fingers throughout

00:28:47.792 --> 00:28:54.152
like the he's doing some shit yeah like he's in the the mainstream sort you know he's he's,

00:28:54.852 --> 00:28:57.772
infiltrating the mainstream a lot of like the guys who do like the move

00:28:57.772 --> 00:29:00.672
coverage they keep finding his loop choke dude i like

00:29:00.672 --> 00:29:03.372
that he hit that one trucker choke at uh blue belt

00:29:03.372 --> 00:29:06.692
and it just keeps getting picked up it's cool he's innovating it's

00:29:06.692 --> 00:29:12.672
cool to see um a cool creative person too uh which is also something that we've

00:29:12.672 --> 00:29:17.312
noticed talking to a lot of uh a lot of these guests there's a lot of nerds

00:29:17.312 --> 00:29:21.812
and a lot of people a lot of creative people a lot of nerds lots of nerds um

00:29:21.812 --> 00:29:24.892
you know then a lot of artistic people which is cool um.

00:29:25.734 --> 00:29:30.594
And, yeah, I mean, that's a, that's, that's, there's been a lot of,

00:29:30.714 --> 00:29:36.374
like, those, lots of, lots of nerds, lots of very creative people, RCP people.

00:29:36.574 --> 00:29:39.354
Didn't John say that this attracts, like, trait openness? Like,

00:29:39.374 --> 00:29:44.374
this world that we're in attracts people who are interested in that realm?

00:29:44.614 --> 00:29:48.594
Yeah. It's a creative realm. Yeah, like, there's, there's a level of creativity

00:29:48.594 --> 00:29:56.314
that this, right, it, like, garners that. It also, the search for knowledge,

00:29:56.334 --> 00:29:58.354
I think was one of the other aspects he was talking about.

00:29:58.494 --> 00:30:04.674
Like this is, you kind of have to want to, you kind of have to want to learn.

00:30:04.854 --> 00:30:09.874
Like if you're just a jock and you don't like being, you don't want to learn

00:30:09.874 --> 00:30:16.414
stuff, it's a much more difficult, it's much more difficult to stay in, right?

00:30:16.454 --> 00:30:20.614
Like people that can't handle failure or are unwilling to seek answers.

00:30:20.614 --> 00:30:26.334
So there's like the problem solving and all of that there's wisdom in this yeah

00:30:26.334 --> 00:30:28.394
people listening wise people.

00:30:30.374 --> 00:30:34.794
Listen to the actual the actual quote go back go back an episode and listen to what John said,

00:30:35.514 --> 00:30:39.174
but we're paraphrasing and I don't know if I paraphrased it I think you paraphrased

00:30:39.174 --> 00:30:44.134
it pretty well I think it was good but if you hear the expanded the expanded

00:30:44.134 --> 00:30:45.834
information it's really cool,

00:30:46.954 --> 00:30:51.074
I think we'll have to do more stuff like that we're going to find more more

00:30:51.074 --> 00:30:55.574
intelligent people not that we haven't already found a bunch but we need to

00:30:55.574 --> 00:30:56.854
find people with like that's,

00:30:57.566 --> 00:31:01.326
Stuff that I don't know anything. Yeah, I like that. Tell me what's in my head.

00:31:02.446 --> 00:31:05.906
Selfishly. It's an opportunity for us to bring on different smart people and

00:31:05.906 --> 00:31:07.866
talk to them about what they know. Yeah. It's awesome.

00:31:08.066 --> 00:31:12.886
And especially, even better if it applies to jiu-jitsu, right? And weirdos.

00:31:13.786 --> 00:31:17.706
Weirdos. We will take weirdos. Oh, yeah. Calling all weirdos.

00:31:17.846 --> 00:31:19.566
We'll take, you know, if you know people.

00:31:19.846 --> 00:31:25.266
Actually, we got some pretty cool recommendations for people than the topics

00:31:25.266 --> 00:31:26.526
with which to include them in.

00:31:27.566 --> 00:31:29.166
That I excite me.

00:31:31.666 --> 00:31:35.406
So speaking of listener topics, let's see.

00:31:35.626 --> 00:31:41.406
We had a few people who I want to do. Well, that was kind of we don't.

00:31:42.406 --> 00:31:47.086
Sorry, guys. I wasn't going to do the actually specifically. Sorry, BJ.

00:31:48.186 --> 00:31:52.086
I was not going to. I'm not going to clip up all the episodes,

00:31:52.126 --> 00:31:57.626
but I do appreciate that was our version of the show. That was our shout-out

00:31:57.626 --> 00:31:59.566
to BJ's clip show request.

00:31:59.886 --> 00:32:04.106
So we wanted to do a little reminiscing, but, dude, I— We reminisced.

00:32:04.266 --> 00:32:05.386
I think we reminisced pretty well.

00:32:05.926 --> 00:32:11.886
I would need a little more time to clip everything up. Yeah, that'd be tough.

00:32:12.006 --> 00:32:15.006
It'd be so tough. There's too many good options. That's the problem.

00:32:15.446 --> 00:32:18.126
It would take up too many episodes. I bet AI could do it.

00:32:19.366 --> 00:32:23.106
I don't know which guy to ask, but that's an AI. We need to get an AI expert

00:32:23.106 --> 00:32:27.346
on. I have an AI guy. Yeah, we'll get an AI guy on here. I got an AI guy. I like it.

00:32:27.646 --> 00:32:30.166
More to come. Hell yeah. We'll have an AI person on.

00:32:30.906 --> 00:32:33.266
But. There's a way to do this. I just don't know what it is.

00:32:33.346 --> 00:32:38.326
We've reminisced on the first year of the podcast, right? Mm.

00:32:40.266 --> 00:32:46.306
So let's reminisce on our first year of jujitsu. Which was a request from one

00:32:46.306 --> 00:32:48.166
of our listeners. This is a listener request.

00:32:49.526 --> 00:32:56.146
This for both of us was over a decade ago. Mm-hmm. Well over a decade ago. So,

00:32:57.071 --> 00:33:02.971
So, reach back as far as you can to your first year. And honestly,

00:33:03.011 --> 00:33:04.451
this is a pretty cool exercise.

00:33:05.571 --> 00:33:09.411
Because we can even do your first year and then now.

00:33:10.331 --> 00:33:13.611
What would first year Scott think of now Scott?

00:33:13.971 --> 00:33:20.211
Let's talk about first year Scott. And then we can see what he thinks of where now Scott is.

00:33:20.211 --> 00:33:25.151
I would like to think that he would be happy with, or satisfied,

00:33:25.151 --> 00:33:31.371
maybe even impressed with where he is now.

00:33:31.811 --> 00:33:34.171
First year Scott didn't know a goddamn thing.

00:33:35.071 --> 00:33:37.991
It was such, I mean, that was 21 years ago.

00:33:38.231 --> 00:33:42.011
21 years ago, yeah, 2005. and uh

00:33:42.011 --> 00:33:46.251
dude i for people

00:33:46.251 --> 00:33:53.771
listening i started jiu-jitsu before forrest griffin and stephen bonner had

00:33:53.771 --> 00:33:58.551
their like breakout ufc uf what was the name of that show the ultimate fighter

00:33:58.551 --> 00:34:04.211
before the ultimate fighter like big breakout um the season that saved probably

00:34:04.211 --> 00:34:06.171
saved the ufc Right, right, right.

00:34:06.271 --> 00:34:11.771
And then, you know, so I said to say, like, this was, it was still a,

00:34:11.851 --> 00:34:20.651
it was very much a subculture in the world of martial arts when I began training jiu-jitsu and, like,

00:34:21.738 --> 00:34:25.018
Dude, I was just trying to show, you know, back then, first year,

00:34:25.078 --> 00:34:28.118
Scott was just like, this stuff is awesome. I just want to do this.

00:34:29.998 --> 00:34:36.018
Competing, coaching, traveling, owning academies was like not even a thought in my mind.

00:34:36.078 --> 00:34:42.058
It was just show up and I got injured my first year. Woo. I got injured. Nice.

00:34:42.978 --> 00:34:46.658
Yeah, I broke my arm. Became a statistic. I did. Yeah.

00:34:46.938 --> 00:34:50.438
I broke my arm the first year and I missed like about eight weeks of training,

00:34:50.558 --> 00:34:54.298
six to eight weeks. So honestly, not that bad, but it's actually pretty, pretty good. Yeah.

00:34:54.478 --> 00:34:57.758
It wasn't a terrible injury or anything. It just was, it was broken.

00:34:58.198 --> 00:35:08.058
Um, and, um, so, but, uh, I said that to say like, it was just very much a immersion into this.

00:35:08.438 --> 00:35:12.678
I mean, even then, like, I didn't know, like training in a serious way was like,

00:35:12.878 --> 00:35:18.018
not really, there wasn't a lot of organization, we'll put it that way back in

00:35:18.018 --> 00:35:19.978
the world of Jiu-Jitsu, at least not where I was.

00:35:20.478 --> 00:35:25.198
Not to like call anyone out I'm not saying that it's more of just like the whole

00:35:25.198 --> 00:35:28.398
world of jutsu has evolved in a very.

00:35:29.732 --> 00:35:36.192
A noticeable way in a, in a big way. And, um, so I was just kind of like learning the hard way.

00:35:36.632 --> 00:35:39.452
I guess what I'm saying, like learning the hard way, just being on the mat.

00:35:39.512 --> 00:35:41.032
I just wanted to train, man. It was so fun.

00:35:41.332 --> 00:35:44.092
I just wanted to train and I was, I was doing a lot of gi back then.

00:35:44.192 --> 00:35:45.312
No, he wasn't really a thing.

00:35:45.432 --> 00:35:50.692
We, we, I did some no gi, but it was no gi was really more for fighters, uh, back then.

00:35:51.292 --> 00:35:54.992
And so in the academy that I was at, shout out to the four seasons in Lexington,

00:35:55.652 --> 00:35:59.032
kentucky kentucky step up your game kentucky listen to the show but

00:35:59.032 --> 00:36:01.872
um there were there were guys

00:36:01.872 --> 00:36:04.432
who were there were actually a decent amount of professional fighters at the

00:36:04.432 --> 00:36:10.172
academy um and uh i would do some nogi with those guys which was cool but that

00:36:10.172 --> 00:36:14.172
was gi was the thing back then so i was wearing the gi all the time and i just

00:36:14.172 --> 00:36:18.832
wanted mat time dude i wasn't i wanted my blue belt i remember that in my first

00:36:18.832 --> 00:36:20.952
year i remember really wanting it so i was training a lot,

00:36:21.532 --> 00:36:25.232
and just trying to like soak up everything that I could, trying to pull off

00:36:25.232 --> 00:36:27.352
moves when and where I could.

00:36:27.732 --> 00:36:31.972
Like, again, another call out to like the difference in the worlds that people

00:36:31.972 --> 00:36:36.172
listening now who are a year in jiu-jitsu have versus what I had,

00:36:36.252 --> 00:36:40.772
which was you just went to class and there wasn't really any structure.

00:36:41.132 --> 00:36:43.592
Again, I'm making it sound worse than it was. It was like, to me,

00:36:43.712 --> 00:36:48.072
this was like I was just getting a ton of awesome content. But like,

00:36:48.292 --> 00:36:54.352
I think the good thing about the growth of this martial art from 2005 to 2026.

00:36:55.299 --> 00:36:59.219
Is that there's so many academies now. There's so many really knowledgeable,

00:36:59.979 --> 00:37:03.359
good coaches out there that there's at least where we are now.

00:37:03.459 --> 00:37:05.759
I mean, granted now I'm in a completely different place, but even back in,

00:37:05.759 --> 00:37:09.939
I know in Lexington, Kentucky, there's a ton of, there's a lot more martial

00:37:09.939 --> 00:37:13.499
arts options, a lot more jiu-jitsu options now than there were when I was there.

00:37:14.619 --> 00:37:17.079
But I think that degree of like, call it like business competition,

00:37:17.219 --> 00:37:19.559
like there's more places, more options for people to go to.

00:37:20.379 --> 00:37:24.779
I just feel like the quality of training, curriculum, systems.

00:37:27.019 --> 00:37:32.639
If you want to have a competitive, and I don't necessarily mean like the world

00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.279
of competition, but like a competitive business in martial arts,

00:37:35.359 --> 00:37:36.739
you just have to do a better job.

00:37:37.459 --> 00:37:43.219
And that's noticeable now insofar as like the product that people receive is a lot more refined.

00:37:43.459 --> 00:37:47.719
Yeah, I was going to say the professionalism is different. I mean,

00:37:47.819 --> 00:37:50.639
heck, so I started doing this 15 years ago.

00:37:50.999 --> 00:37:54.939
So not long after, it was still a subculture thing.

00:37:54.939 --> 00:37:58.259
Like you couldn't have there wasn't there are very few just

00:37:58.259 --> 00:38:00.959
jujitsu gyms right like this was back in the

00:38:00.959 --> 00:38:03.939
tap out days when people were wearing tap out and

00:38:03.939 --> 00:38:06.719
affliction affliction was the other one yeah the all the

00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.219
jujitsu gear was so over the top um

00:38:10.219 --> 00:38:16.859
yeah dude oh man the style was rough because like not only was so mma was still

00:38:16.859 --> 00:38:22.879
like a subculture it was still pretty like it was still like a small thing it

00:38:22.879 --> 00:38:26.519
was just starting to like be bigger they just started I think they were just

00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:29.959
kind of barely starting to show fights at bars and,

00:38:30.539 --> 00:38:33.639
if I may jump in real fast the reason why you and I both brought up MMA too

00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.459
because MMA was really like the,

00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.479
and it kind of still is although I think Jiu Jitsu now kind of has it's own

00:38:39.479 --> 00:38:43.499
cultural like inertia behind it where it has like it's own like brand recognition

00:38:43.499 --> 00:38:47.259
but back then the UFC was like what.

00:38:47.989 --> 00:38:50.909
Was like the big marketing thing for it

00:38:50.909 --> 00:38:53.729
was the showcase that was how people that's how people found out

00:38:53.729 --> 00:38:56.609
about jujitsu so that was like you to your point that's funny

00:38:56.609 --> 00:38:59.269
we both brought up like mma yeah insofar as like the

00:38:59.269 --> 00:39:02.189
zeitgeist to that um well i mean that's what got me into

00:39:02.189 --> 00:39:07.149
it anyways because i was fighting yeah i was doing it to fight so like but yeah

00:39:07.149 --> 00:39:10.849
i mean that was what brought people like that was that was the marketing for

00:39:10.849 --> 00:39:19.409
jujitsu at the time like oh yeah even jujitsu because wrestling didn't start taking over MMA yet.

00:39:19.969 --> 00:39:25.609
Like, jujitsu is still, like, the dominant grappling art for MMA at the time

00:39:25.609 --> 00:39:29.649
in the 2010s, the early 2010s.

00:39:30.989 --> 00:39:36.709
So, like, up until, what, probably, like, 2015, 2016?

00:39:37.229 --> 00:39:42.929
Yeah, maybe. Like, that was when wrestling, that's, like, when wrestling really started.

00:39:43.109 --> 00:39:45.369
I mean, there were a couple guys. come back because it went through like a tough

00:39:45.369 --> 00:39:50.029
time where like for whatever reason I just I actually think social media played

00:39:50.029 --> 00:39:52.249
a big part in all of this too where like that.

00:39:53.129 --> 00:39:55.829
Enabled like subculture of i mean

00:39:55.829 --> 00:39:58.609
i'm every former subculture plus like some free shit that like people are

00:39:58.609 --> 00:40:01.789
all the weird shit you see on the internet is because of social

00:40:01.789 --> 00:40:04.549
media is like allowed people to form these little

00:40:04.549 --> 00:40:08.009
like bizarre little niches but but anyways i digress but

00:40:08.009 --> 00:40:11.069
because of social media like wrestling i think made a comeback

00:40:11.069 --> 00:40:13.989
too because like all the wrestlers who have always been super passionate about

00:40:13.989 --> 00:40:16.749
their thing like there was no like outlet other than the

00:40:16.749 --> 00:40:20.349
UFC kind of like you said yeah um to like rally behind

00:40:20.349 --> 00:40:24.029
hey this incredible sport is here it's awesome

00:40:24.029 --> 00:40:26.929
but it's never really had like a place where

00:40:26.929 --> 00:40:29.909
people can like go and get excited about it but now you got Instagram well and

00:40:29.909 --> 00:40:32.949
there there wasn't yeah there was no like because wrestling

00:40:32.949 --> 00:40:36.089
is one of the few collegiate sports that has

00:40:36.089 --> 00:40:39.269
only one outlet initially right like

00:40:39.269 --> 00:40:42.909
because there wasn't you couldn't make money going to

00:40:42.909 --> 00:40:46.249
do jiu-jitsu out of wrestling at the time you couldn't really

00:40:46.249 --> 00:40:49.069
it was really hard to break into the UFC at the

00:40:49.069 --> 00:40:52.069
time like you basically had to go fight yeah

00:40:52.069 --> 00:40:55.329
you had to go do years I mean it was the development time

00:40:55.329 --> 00:41:00.709
was just so different um you didn't have guys that like you didn't have Bo Nickel

00:41:00.709 --> 00:41:05.009
who would you know get into the UFC within a year like that didn't happen at

00:41:05.009 --> 00:41:08.929
the time right like that there wasn't the discovery ability now that they have

00:41:08.929 --> 00:41:13.309
now too so I mean it's just media coverage and spread but um.

00:41:14.411 --> 00:41:18.251
Yeah, I mean, it's just like that might be the whole answer is just competition

00:41:18.251 --> 00:41:22.971
and the ability for like to showcase the sport has caused the sport to get bigger.

00:41:23.151 --> 00:41:25.831
And which this isn't the point of what we're talking about.

00:41:25.931 --> 00:41:29.531
You were talking about just like how like the UFC, MMA and the UFC was like

00:41:29.531 --> 00:41:37.171
creating exposure to jujitsu and how that was relevant to your like your pathway into.

00:41:37.451 --> 00:41:44.391
Yeah, like you kind of saw at the time that like you had to like you had to learn jujitsu.

00:41:44.411 --> 00:41:47.291
Right and that's what got me into jiu-jitsu was i mean

00:41:47.291 --> 00:41:49.991
this was 2011 and it was like all

00:41:49.991 --> 00:41:52.811
right like if i'm gonna fight i gotta i can't just

00:41:52.811 --> 00:41:56.031
know how to wrestle and that's it i gotta

00:41:56.031 --> 00:42:02.431
learn this jiu-jitsu thing and like do jiu-jitsu um so i started doing jiu-jitsu

00:42:02.431 --> 00:42:10.231
2011 and so that'll be fall of 2011 i guess um but so like that first year right

00:42:10.231 --> 00:42:13.331
just doing jiu-jitsu i signed up for my first tournament after like two or three

00:42:13.331 --> 00:42:15.371
months, it was much harder.

00:42:15.631 --> 00:42:18.531
I'm going to preface this. It's much harder to sign up for tournaments back

00:42:18.531 --> 00:42:21.291
then because like there wasn't smooth comp.

00:42:21.511 --> 00:42:23.951
It wasn't like the internet still kind of sucked.

00:42:24.471 --> 00:42:28.191
You know, like it wasn't super refined. It wasn't as much information on like

00:42:28.191 --> 00:42:31.391
where do you go to your first tournament? There's like not that many tournaments.

00:42:31.871 --> 00:42:33.631
And so you see a tournament and then what happened, Michael?

00:42:33.991 --> 00:42:39.211
Yeah, so I think my coach just like sent me, he was just like, go here and just sign up.

00:42:39.391 --> 00:42:42.991
We're all going. So I just went and signed up. And I didn't know this,

00:42:43.031 --> 00:42:48.031
but I signed up for the advanced division because it just had like years of grappling experience.

00:42:48.171 --> 00:42:50.531
And so like it was, I don't know.

00:42:51.551 --> 00:42:56.431
But so I just like signed up for, I think there were only two skill divisions at the time.

00:42:56.571 --> 00:42:59.251
I might be misremembered, but I definitely signed up for the wrong one.

00:42:59.391 --> 00:43:00.871
Advanced and not advanced. Yeah.

00:43:01.851 --> 00:43:05.071
But so I just signed up for a division and...

00:43:06.138 --> 00:43:11.858
I don't know what the promotion was. All I know is I shot in for a double leg.

00:43:12.858 --> 00:43:16.638
Dude just was all of a sudden on my back and I was getting choked out.

00:43:17.758 --> 00:43:22.158
And this was like, I was well outclassed. Like what? And I was like,

00:43:22.238 --> 00:43:23.878
what in the hell just happened?

00:43:25.618 --> 00:43:27.078
I was like, what happened?

00:43:28.978 --> 00:43:31.738
Yeah. So like that was, that was my first year of jiu-jitsu.

00:43:31.858 --> 00:43:33.538
And then I was like, all right, I'm going to just get good at this.

00:43:33.538 --> 00:43:36.858
I did get my, I ended up getting my blue belt in less than a year,

00:43:36.938 --> 00:43:42.038
I think, but, um, cause I, I literally just no life jujitsu after that.

00:43:42.738 --> 00:43:46.498
I'm going to be good at this cut. That's how you do it. Um, no life it.

00:43:46.858 --> 00:43:49.878
Cause I think, no, it was just over a year.

00:43:50.258 --> 00:43:53.238
Yeah. Roughly. It was like a, I got like it within a year or something.

00:43:53.418 --> 00:43:55.818
I don't know. I don't have to look at dates and time.

00:43:56.398 --> 00:44:01.758
Um, but yeah, I mean, I mean, so I got into it looking to get into fighting.

00:44:01.758 --> 00:44:04.318
I think I had my first fight after the first year.

00:44:04.698 --> 00:44:08.538
So I think it was like a year and a half or something that I had my first fight.

00:44:10.758 --> 00:44:15.038
But yeah, I mean, it was a very different world. Like you were saying,

00:44:15.238 --> 00:44:17.598
like jujitsu, it was hard to find.

00:44:18.158 --> 00:44:20.018
There weren't as many schools.

00:44:21.798 --> 00:44:28.858
I was traveling an hour to get to the gym at the time. So like it was an hour each way.

00:44:29.298 --> 00:44:31.618
That was like the closest one.

00:44:34.058 --> 00:44:39.578
At least I knew of but so I was going an hour each way to train uh,

00:44:40.734 --> 00:44:43.634
we had a different coach like every few

00:44:43.634 --> 00:44:46.534
months at one eventually we were just this

00:44:46.534 --> 00:44:49.234
wasn't within the first year but eventually we were just the

00:44:49.234 --> 00:44:51.914
coaches at this gym um and like you

00:44:51.914 --> 00:44:54.794
said like even though there's a six-year difference

00:44:54.794 --> 00:44:57.654
or five-year difference in time there was still

00:44:57.654 --> 00:45:01.114
like it was still pretty wild west

00:45:01.114 --> 00:45:04.694
like you're learning the hard way because

00:45:04.694 --> 00:45:07.354
there weren't quite as many people right there

00:45:07.354 --> 00:45:09.954
weren't as many like now we have tons of black belts in the

00:45:09.954 --> 00:45:12.954
area and there was still a decent number of them but like

00:45:12.954 --> 00:45:15.734
jujitsu is still kind of like this little secret are and

00:45:15.734 --> 00:45:18.734
everyone like kept to their they didn't really cross train yet

00:45:18.734 --> 00:45:22.434
they all kind of kept to their own schools and um

00:45:22.434 --> 00:45:25.314
there wasn't quite like now there's a huge

00:45:25.314 --> 00:45:28.274
knowledge share you know there there probably were

00:45:28.274 --> 00:45:31.014
i mean there were definitely like the big

00:45:31.014 --> 00:45:33.794
brother schools were were out were there like that was all a

00:45:33.794 --> 00:45:37.194
thing but that was that was further away it wasn't so like but you

00:45:37.194 --> 00:45:40.374
know there were all of these there were these groups

00:45:40.374 --> 00:45:43.434
but like if you weren't in one of these groups you were kind of like an isolated

00:45:43.434 --> 00:45:48.094
school right like you weren't getting people weren't coming to your school and

00:45:48.094 --> 00:45:50.874
teaching we weren't really connected very well back then either that's another

00:45:50.874 --> 00:45:53.374
shout out to like social media there wasn't really like a great way for like

00:45:53.374 --> 00:45:56.294
people to keep in touch i mean this stuff is like around the time that like

00:45:56.294 --> 00:45:58.414
facebook was just kind of popping off man and like.

00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:04.450
There weren't influencers yet no one knew how to use social media people weren't

00:46:04.450 --> 00:46:09.550
connected in this in the way it is now where they can use DM and academy like

00:46:09.550 --> 00:46:12.890
I was just in Georgia like a week ago dude and I just shot him a message I said

00:46:12.890 --> 00:46:13.850
I'll be there and they said come.

00:46:14.790 --> 00:46:19.630
It's way different now it's so easy to link with random people and train yeah

00:46:19.630 --> 00:46:23.490
you had like the barrier to entry for jiu jitsu was you had to be willing to

00:46:23.490 --> 00:46:26.170
fill out the form on a website or.

00:46:27.110 --> 00:46:30.470
Call and hope someone answered like that was the barrier to

00:46:30.470 --> 00:46:33.390
entry for every single gym there was no

00:46:33.390 --> 00:46:36.970
like you're saying you couldn't just hit people up um

00:46:36.970 --> 00:46:39.650
it was much harder and so you had to you had to want

00:46:39.650 --> 00:46:42.470
it sometimes there wasn't even a good website like sometimes the

00:46:42.470 --> 00:46:45.370
website just some of the websites are still fucked up yeah and yeah

00:46:45.370 --> 00:46:48.570
websites are are varying degrees of quality yeah i

00:46:48.570 --> 00:46:51.710
was telling someone about that on uh there i was like every single

00:46:51.710 --> 00:46:56.390
jujitsu gym has like the exact same like there's there's some guy who's developing

00:46:56.390 --> 00:47:00.090
every single one because they all look the same they all do roughly the same

00:47:00.090 --> 00:47:06.510
thing they're all broken at the same time um and i don't know just not tech

00:47:06.510 --> 00:47:11.410
savvy people necessarily or you know i don't know you're not getting they're not getting into,

00:47:11.930 --> 00:47:15.210
running a jujitsu gym to run a website so like yeah

00:47:15.210 --> 00:47:18.590
they become second nature i don't know uh also now

00:47:18.590 --> 00:47:22.330
more people want to do it so you don't have to like be as you gotta

00:47:22.330 --> 00:47:25.250
you just gotta provide the product sometimes and it's fine you know people want

00:47:25.250 --> 00:47:28.010
it they want it um you know

00:47:28.010 --> 00:47:30.670
whatever but it was it was

00:47:30.670 --> 00:47:33.490
still very different back then but some some

00:47:33.490 --> 00:47:36.630
of it's still the same but there's there were aspects of

00:47:36.630 --> 00:47:42.990
the sport at large that were like just different and almost like archaic if

00:47:42.990 --> 00:47:49.850
you look back at it like oh like we were just just fighting show up and just

00:47:49.850 --> 00:47:53.870
just grapple um it's a lot different now man if yeah it's.

00:47:54.490 --> 00:47:57.570
They're uh I yeah I mean my my I guess.

00:47:58.694 --> 00:48:02.054
My way of describing it is there's just a lot more infrastructure behind it now.

00:48:02.334 --> 00:48:07.474
There's more, um, it's more precise. It's more targeted these days,

00:48:07.474 --> 00:48:09.134
which is for, it's better.

00:48:09.394 --> 00:48:12.134
Like the, the product is impressive now. Like there's so many good options,

00:48:12.134 --> 00:48:15.654
just like even just being around DC, there's just,

00:48:16.437 --> 00:48:20.717
I mean, hundreds, maybe not hundreds, probably over a hundred different good options.

00:48:21.437 --> 00:48:27.457
I swear there's new academies just in the area popping up frequently.

00:48:29.317 --> 00:48:35.037
Like very frequently. Probably like every couple weeks to a month,

00:48:35.037 --> 00:48:37.157
I hear about one opening somewhere.

00:48:37.357 --> 00:48:40.197
You used to have to go to MMA schools to get a little bit of it too.

00:48:40.577 --> 00:48:43.657
Now there are like jiu-jitsu schools. Yeah, now there's jiu-jitsu only.

00:48:43.897 --> 00:48:47.237
You did have to use to, in the 20 teens still, um

00:48:47.237 --> 00:48:50.077
yeah everything that opened was an mma school you know

00:48:50.077 --> 00:48:53.157
you did the the striking and um or it

00:48:53.157 --> 00:48:56.157
was like a karate school that also ran a class

00:48:56.157 --> 00:49:01.497
they had like a class or like it had fighters but it really was a karate school

00:49:01.497 --> 00:49:07.657
that then just had like this back back room jujitsu mma thing going on uh it

00:49:07.657 --> 00:49:13.457
still put out like good guys but you know you had like these it wasn't the draw at the time.

00:49:13.777 --> 00:49:19.637
I mean, heck, Nova MMA was mainly CrossFit. Like, that was, that was the money maker.

00:49:20.597 --> 00:49:25.257
And then, you know, you had the, you had MMA stuff, you had all of that,

00:49:25.297 --> 00:49:31.057
but like, you had to have, like, just, jujitsu wasn't paying the bills for most schools at the time.

00:49:31.157 --> 00:49:34.817
Like, it just wasn't a big enough program. And now it's, you have schools with,

00:49:35.357 --> 00:49:38.157
hundreds of people just doing jujitsu.

00:49:38.817 --> 00:49:42.197
So, I mean, it's pretty impressive where it's come from. um that

00:49:42.197 --> 00:49:44.917
was a great so yeah if you're if you're listening to this

00:49:44.917 --> 00:49:48.057
it's your first year man you got it so good dude it's if this

00:49:48.057 --> 00:49:52.797
is your first you're so blessed you have you have so many ways like so many

00:49:52.797 --> 00:49:57.617
more professional outlets for showcasing and testing out your jiu-jitsu it's

00:49:57.617 --> 00:50:05.417
easier to get to you know multiple different training partners and have have like.

00:50:06.391 --> 00:50:11.451
Cross training, open mats, seminars, like. Hundreds of good black belt coaches out there.

00:50:11.571 --> 00:50:16.371
Content, you can just watch it for free and get like technique videos online

00:50:16.371 --> 00:50:19.431
and research your opponents easily.

00:50:20.011 --> 00:50:23.591
You have smooth comp for your local comp, like your regionals.

00:50:24.511 --> 00:50:28.891
Like, you know. You guys got it good, man. You can actually see what your record

00:50:28.891 --> 00:50:30.671
is. We don't want to hear any complaining.

00:50:30.951 --> 00:50:34.471
You had to remember your record back in the day, you know.

00:50:34.951 --> 00:50:37.971
You had to like remember how your tournaments went you

00:50:37.971 --> 00:50:40.611
couldn't go back and see what happened or you couldn't even see

00:50:40.611 --> 00:50:43.591
the brackets you didn't know who signed up for shit back then

00:50:43.591 --> 00:50:46.351
I mean heck even until even through like

00:50:46.351 --> 00:50:49.111
2015 2016 I remember like you just showed

00:50:49.111 --> 00:50:51.811
up and hoped there were people and they

00:50:51.811 --> 00:50:54.571
would just put you wherever there were so they always for

00:50:54.571 --> 00:50:57.671
like the smaller this isn't like the other IBJJF was

00:50:57.671 --> 00:51:00.371
still relatively professional smaller but it was

00:51:00.371 --> 00:51:03.031
still pretty professional at the time so that was pretty

00:51:03.031 --> 00:51:06.171
to only one um yeah you

00:51:06.171 --> 00:51:09.311
had like a lot of uh the regionals

00:51:09.311 --> 00:51:15.711
were very different at the time the small local shows and everything um we had

00:51:15.711 --> 00:51:20.471
one question about open mats oh yeah we did speaking of open mats yeah speaking

00:51:20.471 --> 00:51:28.291
of connectivity i haven't heard of this uh movement this that he is bringing up however,

00:51:29.011 --> 00:51:33.871
he wants us to talk about this dumb as fuck anti open map movement.

00:51:34.971 --> 00:51:38.731
I don't I've never I have not heard of this maybe we should have asked him to

00:51:38.731 --> 00:51:45.011
like submit a audio request expand on your request please expand however um,

00:51:45.911 --> 00:51:50.291
Have you heard of people not being anti-open mat? I don't know if I know of

00:51:50.291 --> 00:51:56.771
a stated anti-open mat policy, but there are places that don't do open mats,

00:51:56.851 --> 00:51:57.791
and that's probably what he's...

00:51:57.791 --> 00:52:02.271
Do you think he's referring to, like, oh, hey, we have open mats on at this

00:52:02.271 --> 00:52:04.851
time, come out, and... Or, like, do you think he's talking about,

00:52:04.871 --> 00:52:06.091
like, oh, anybody show up?

00:52:06.631 --> 00:52:10.531
Well, he's talking about open mats. Like, where, yeah, open to visitors to show

00:52:10.531 --> 00:52:12.591
up and kind of get some cross-training. That's what he's talking about.

00:52:13.211 --> 00:52:17.911
And he's, I think, calling out places where they don't. All right,

00:52:17.951 --> 00:52:19.831
then I've heard of that then. Okay.

00:52:20.011 --> 00:52:24.091
I wasn't sure if it just meant, like, people were just against having a not class.

00:52:25.031 --> 00:52:27.471
You know, like, oh, we're going to have, like, you know, if you're just like,

00:52:27.531 --> 00:52:30.931
oh, we're going to have open mat on, you know, we have open mats on Saturdays.

00:52:31.671 --> 00:52:33.831
So, like, there's no class. You just say everybody show up and roll.

00:52:34.131 --> 00:52:36.151
You know, like. Yeah, I mean, that's, okay, so, like.

00:52:36.411 --> 00:52:39.831
It's a level of it, but I thought, like, just at the base level of,

00:52:39.931 --> 00:52:41.691
like, we only have class.

00:52:42.631 --> 00:52:45.331
But. Well, I think he's kind of doing that. I think that's what he's talking about. bit of

00:52:45.331 --> 00:52:48.411
that but also other people being allowed in that

00:52:48.411 --> 00:52:51.731
i yeah now i see what yeah a non-open mat now i'm

00:52:51.731 --> 00:52:54.991
cool uh he was talking yes now

00:52:54.991 --> 00:52:57.691
i'm on board now i understand you understand

00:52:57.691 --> 00:53:01.991
now i get it okay yeah i have heard of this that okay um it is dumb as fuck

00:53:01.991 --> 00:53:10.031
i agree i mean i understand to an extent but um i understand aspects of it because

00:53:10.031 --> 00:53:17.151
i do think there is there can be risks to your clientele involved in it, right?

00:53:18.831 --> 00:53:21.591
But it's also really not that big of a risk.

00:53:21.691 --> 00:53:28.411
I understand that there's like, hey, White Belt Johnny shows up to open mat

00:53:28.411 --> 00:53:33.071
and this dude who doesn't care about his well-being also shows up to open mat

00:53:33.071 --> 00:53:35.431
and just starts thrashing people. Like, I...

00:53:36.144 --> 00:53:39.604
It could happen. I understand that aspect of it. I don't think it's as big of

00:53:39.604 --> 00:53:43.044
a risk as some people might think.

00:53:43.244 --> 00:53:45.504
I don't think that's something that happens a lot.

00:53:47.164 --> 00:53:50.524
I think... It's a solvable problem. Yeah, it is a solvable problem.

00:53:50.704 --> 00:53:53.424
You put someone in charge of up and up to keep an eye on things and just make

00:53:53.424 --> 00:53:55.424
sure everyone's behaving themselves, done.

00:53:55.884 --> 00:54:02.544
Because I've seen people show up and not really take care of their training

00:54:02.544 --> 00:54:04.144
partners that day from other...

00:54:04.144 --> 00:54:08.524
You know, but I very few people show up with malicious intent,

00:54:08.884 --> 00:54:14.544
but I've seen people like show up and treat a roll at open mat like it's ADCC worlds.

00:54:14.764 --> 00:54:16.984
And you're like, dude, settle the fuck down.

00:54:18.404 --> 00:54:21.364
But it usually does solve itself.

00:54:23.044 --> 00:54:28.044
But, yeah, I mean, I'm just saying I understand. I understand that that is usually

00:54:28.044 --> 00:54:32.004
that is that is usually one of the reasons people don't do it.

00:54:32.004 --> 00:54:36.884
I don't think that's necessarily a good, I don't think it's a founded reason.

00:54:37.224 --> 00:54:42.044
Like, I don't think that's founded. In fact, I know some, if this,

00:54:42.224 --> 00:54:48.404
the one that I have an issue with, though, is if your fear is that if people

00:54:48.404 --> 00:54:51.564
come from other schools, that they'll take your students.

00:54:52.184 --> 00:54:55.884
That, I think, is a bad reason to not have open mats.

00:54:56.104 --> 00:54:59.204
I understand if you're trying to, you know, insurance, trying to protect your

00:54:59.204 --> 00:55:02.644
clients, whatever. You know, like that's a business decision at that point.

00:55:03.004 --> 00:55:07.164
But you really shouldn't be worried about people coming into your school and taking your students.

00:55:07.424 --> 00:55:10.364
I don't think that's something that, if you're doing your job,

00:55:10.484 --> 00:55:14.664
it's not happening, right? You know, also I don't think people really do that.

00:55:15.424 --> 00:55:19.204
I don't know, I don't know. I don't know if people show up to open mass looking to pick up students.

00:55:20.064 --> 00:55:23.204
Yeah, I don't, that's the main way these guys are growing their businesses.

00:55:25.064 --> 00:55:25.424
Yeah.

00:55:26.322 --> 00:55:29.022
Yeah, I suppose that's the psychology, like you said. It's like some people

00:55:29.022 --> 00:55:31.562
are like, hey, this business is for paying members.

00:55:32.742 --> 00:55:36.162
And no open mat. I guess that's the psychology in some capacity,

00:55:36.362 --> 00:55:39.162
right? Like basically, simply put, yeah.

00:55:39.682 --> 00:55:43.062
And so, okay, so I guess the pro of that is like, all right,

00:55:43.182 --> 00:55:46.902
well, like you just focus on your members. All right, so more power to you. That's fine, I suppose.

00:55:48.442 --> 00:55:51.782
With an open mat, you can bring in visitors from wherever.

00:55:52.022 --> 00:55:54.842
People can come in from out of town. People can come in from across town and

00:55:54.842 --> 00:55:58.842
cross train with your guys. It makes your guys better. It puts you in a good light, too.

00:55:59.522 --> 00:56:05.462
I think it's a good look for an academy when visitors want to come pop in and join your open mat.

00:56:05.542 --> 00:56:09.402
It says something about your training environment that people see quality and

00:56:09.402 --> 00:56:11.482
they're like, yo, man, I'd like to pop in and do an open mat with you guys.

00:56:12.422 --> 00:56:18.442
So I tend to agree that an open mat, one or whatever, is a good look.

00:56:19.442 --> 00:56:23.742
I think it adds prestige to the place that's hosting it and the guys that are

00:56:23.742 --> 00:56:26.842
hosting it saying like yo people want to come here and train and like yeah we

00:56:26.842 --> 00:56:30.782
welcome some of what you said maybe we welcome some of those competitive ADC style,

00:56:31.382 --> 00:56:34.782
ADCC world style rounds from time to time I think it's like a I think it's a

00:56:34.782 --> 00:56:38.302
cool thing that's probably what he's getting at it's like he wants to you know go,

00:56:38.942 --> 00:56:42.262
okay I'd like to pop into this academy but they won't let me in unless I pay

00:56:42.262 --> 00:56:46.522
well I mean I'm a member at another gym but I want to like come check out your spot it's like,

00:56:47.505 --> 00:56:52.905
There's like a diplomacy aspect to it that I like. And so I get where he's coming from.

00:56:53.405 --> 00:56:56.365
I don't know that there's like some like broad movement. I don't know.

00:56:56.425 --> 00:56:58.865
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm. Yeah. I don't know how like.

00:56:59.505 --> 00:57:02.385
Expansive. Yeah. I don't know how like. How deep does this conspiracy go?

00:57:02.405 --> 00:57:04.025
I don't know how deep the anti.

00:57:04.705 --> 00:57:08.365
I mean, I don't know. Maybe he had run into something. I don't know.

00:57:08.465 --> 00:57:11.945
But I mean, like we don't have like in terms of.

00:57:12.805 --> 00:57:15.245
We don't have like a day where people just show up and roll.

00:57:16.965 --> 00:57:21.725
At Battlefield. But it's just, we just not, we haven't on the holidays.

00:57:21.965 --> 00:57:25.145
We'll have, like, the federal holiday open maps and, you know,

00:57:25.345 --> 00:57:28.685
whatever. Whoever shows up, shows up. Gotcha. Just gotta sign a waiver. That's it. That's it.

00:57:29.805 --> 00:57:33.685
And, like, but during classes, like, during the week, if someone wants to drop

00:57:33.685 --> 00:57:35.465
in. It's got, like, a visitor policy. Yeah.

00:57:35.685 --> 00:57:41.125
Like, we don't charge people for a day. You know, we don't do drop-in, like, drop-in fees.

00:57:41.965 --> 00:57:45.105
Um, you know, I don't know. We don't really have an issue with it.

00:57:45.505 --> 00:57:49.925
There might be certain specific individuals that a gym doesn't, you know, but like.

00:57:50.345 --> 00:57:53.505
Blacklisted. Yeah, there might be blacklisted people at certain gyms and stuff,

00:57:53.505 --> 00:57:55.405
but that's a different thing. But like any gym's going to have a blacklist after a while.

00:57:55.545 --> 00:57:57.005
Like you're going to have some bad actors come through and you're like,

00:57:57.025 --> 00:57:59.745
he can't come back. You might have some of that at gyms, you know,

00:57:59.825 --> 00:58:03.745
like there's everybody, everybody has one, I'm sure, you know.

00:58:04.205 --> 00:58:06.685
If you've been to a gym long enough, you'll have some blacklisted people.

00:58:06.825 --> 00:58:08.785
Yeah, there's someone who's shown up to your gym.

00:58:09.405 --> 00:58:11.665
Or they might have been a member at one point. You're like, bro,

00:58:11.805 --> 00:58:14.725
you can't be here. Definitely. You kick them to the curb, you know.

00:58:15.245 --> 00:58:18.685
Um, so I guess that's a thing that's going to happen one way or another.

00:58:18.885 --> 00:58:23.625
It's just every, every gym at some point in his lifetime has run into those

00:58:23.625 --> 00:58:25.705
people. It's just what it is. Some bad apples.

00:58:26.265 --> 00:58:29.685
But yeah, we don't have like, we don't not allow people to the gym.

00:58:29.905 --> 00:58:35.165
I don't know from other schools. So I, I just have not experienced it now. Um,

00:58:35.676 --> 00:58:41.576
I don't know. I haven't, I've had like one gym not respond to a request to go

00:58:41.576 --> 00:58:42.876
to it before. And that's about it.

00:58:44.916 --> 00:58:49.216
They just didn't respond. Like just literally no, no answer to my messages.

00:58:49.616 --> 00:58:51.816
So I was like, all right, I guess I'm not coming.

00:58:52.876 --> 00:58:56.916
Yeah. I mean, if you're listening and you're in a decision making position at

00:58:56.916 --> 00:58:59.796
an academy, maybe you do an open mat. Maybe you let some people pop in.

00:58:59.996 --> 00:59:02.796
It doesn't have to be every day either.

00:59:03.016 --> 00:59:06.516
You know, that's understandable. if you want like your classes to be for your students.

00:59:06.796 --> 00:59:09.736
But, you know, I think it's cool to have like a,

00:59:11.306 --> 00:59:15.346
saturday i don't know whatever day it is sometimes people are in town yeah yeah

00:59:15.406 --> 00:59:18.106
you don't have to let them in

00:59:18.106 --> 00:59:20.906
monday through friday that's fine whatever yeah um it's

00:59:20.906 --> 00:59:23.666
a good look but it's good to be like hey like even if

00:59:23.666 --> 00:59:26.666
even someone does reach out and they're like oh i'm gonna be in town these days

00:59:26.666 --> 00:59:29.906
like yeah we don't let people in those days but if you show up this day you

00:59:29.906 --> 00:59:33.826
can take a free trial yeah or just do your free free one-week trial whatever

00:59:33.826 --> 00:59:39.266
um you know i don't know i just i think it's a weird thing to not let people

00:59:39.266 --> 00:59:42.366
especially visitors, dude, like from out of town. Like, why not?

00:59:43.066 --> 00:59:45.786
They're going to, they'll show up for a day. They'll be gone the next day.

00:59:45.886 --> 00:59:46.706
Like, who cares? It's fine.

00:59:48.346 --> 00:59:51.726
Yeah, I don't know. Obviously, there's always going to be some amount of politics

00:59:51.726 --> 00:59:55.526
between gyms. It's going to happen. It's a thing that occurs.

00:59:57.306 --> 01:00:01.086
But we don't have to expand that to people outside of those circles, right?

01:00:02.606 --> 01:00:07.206
I understand that there is that aspect of just businesses in general.

01:00:07.206 --> 01:00:12.786
You know, we said you have your you have your gang and they have their gang. People are funny.

01:00:13.046 --> 01:00:17.066
Yeah. Just say that people are funny, man. And then sometimes you have your cults, dude.

01:00:17.866 --> 01:00:19.646
Yeah, we've talked about that. We talked about that.

01:00:20.946 --> 01:00:24.366
Sometimes that's a thing, too. Maybe if maybe if you're Jim,

01:00:24.586 --> 01:00:27.486
maybe that's a maybe that's a cult marker, a potential cult marker. Could be.

01:00:27.646 --> 01:00:31.526
Like we said, most things are there's there's red flags, green flags,

01:00:31.646 --> 01:00:37.566
and sometimes there's yellow flags. That might be a yellow flag for your cult behavior, right?

01:00:37.746 --> 01:00:41.746
Like, oh, we don't let outsiders in unless they pay me. I don't know.

01:00:42.586 --> 01:00:46.926
Sometimes that's just business. Sometimes you mark that with a few of the other things.

01:00:47.046 --> 01:00:49.546
Yeah, that's in the stew, right? You got to taste the stew and say,

01:00:49.626 --> 01:00:51.306
how many ingredients does this taste like a cult?

01:00:52.430 --> 01:00:56.230
If they don't let other people in the gym, but also don't let you visit other gyms.

01:00:56.930 --> 01:01:02.350
Cult. That's probably a cult. That might be one of the factors.

01:01:04.110 --> 01:01:06.510
Yeah, so that's, I don't know. Do you have anything else on that?

01:01:06.510 --> 01:01:08.890
No, no, no. I think we've covered that one. Move some up and mats, guys.

01:01:10.350 --> 01:01:14.650
Oh, and Birthday Boy has a question for us. Oh, yeah, yeah. How do you like

01:01:14.650 --> 01:01:16.990
working with Novo Boy? This is a loaded question. Who asked this?

01:01:17.150 --> 01:01:20.570
Oh, this is Birthday Boy. Don't say who asked the question. Just read the question.

01:01:20.570 --> 01:01:23.870
How do you like working with nova barbell club would

01:01:23.870 --> 01:01:29.090
you recommend them you want to go do you want me to start yeah go it's wonderful

01:01:29.090 --> 01:01:33.390
uh i mean i don't know i i recommend them i think we're being forced into an

01:01:33.390 --> 01:01:42.470
ad spot uh um yeah i mean i like working with a barbell club i've gotten stronger significantly.

01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:50.979
My mat confidence is improved, increased. And yeah, I do recommend working with them.

01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:56.619
Are there days that sometimes I'm like, man, fuck this guy.

01:01:57.419 --> 01:01:59.959
And then I get over it pretty quickly at the end of the workout.

01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:03.039
But sometimes I'm looking at the workout, I'm like, God, really?

01:02:03.219 --> 01:02:07.279
We're doing this today? And then I do the workout and I feel a million times better and it's fine.

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Yeah, I don't know. I've adjusted a lot of, like me specifically,

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a lot of like strength deficiencies um

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i'm way stronger

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than matt weight cuts have been easy uh you know

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like i'm actually in the like at

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the top of a weight division now like like i said

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i was 161 pounds in january and

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now i'm 149 um like 150 but

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you know like you'll be on weight i'll be good i

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have a week um you do you're you're on wait dude you

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know like uh it's simplified the

01:02:43.059 --> 01:02:45.859
process it's nice having especially it's nice having

01:02:45.859 --> 01:02:49.639
a program dude like and now i'm

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going to turn this into an ad spot i guess but you know it's it's he has tons

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of different options for all the different like wherever however much people

01:02:58.619 --> 01:03:03.199
want to invest in the sport like it's good I like having I've done the subscription

01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:07.339
program I've done and I've done the custom I just needed the custom just because of,

01:03:07.919 --> 01:03:10.839
travel competing a lot it's just better for me,

01:03:12.059 --> 01:03:16.599
you know it's just good having not having to think about what you need to do in the gym.

01:03:18.359 --> 01:03:21.219
For as a competitor it's nice being able to like,

01:03:22.209 --> 01:03:26.329
all right, pull up my phone, open the app, all right, here's what I need to do today.

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So all I have to do is worry about what I'm gonna do in training,

01:03:28.869 --> 01:03:31.369
right? Like that's the only thing I have to think about. I was like,

01:03:31.429 --> 01:03:33.969
all right, what am I focusing on in training this week?

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That's the only decision I have to make sometimes, right? Like this is what I'm working on.

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And then sometimes that decision gets made for me by performance,

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you know, oh, well, actually I need to work on this now. And then I work on that.

01:03:47.609 --> 01:03:55.469
You know, it removes a stress point uh for the day i just have to do whatever

01:03:55.469 --> 01:04:00.829
the workout says and for me that's a big deal like i so i mean it's great um

01:04:00.829 --> 01:04:05.329
and that's my i i endorse a nova barbell club,

01:04:06.329 --> 01:04:10.149
how about you yes definitely do you like it i've endorsed it many times and

01:04:10.149 --> 01:04:15.149
i'll continue to endorse it yes i think you said it well man um,

01:04:16.133 --> 01:04:21.233
Yeah, having the program, it's curated around your goals.

01:04:21.953 --> 01:04:28.633
Our coach, Yassim, does a ton to understand all the nuances and subtleties of

01:04:28.633 --> 01:04:34.293
where you're at, balanced with a lot of conversations built around what your goals are.

01:04:35.493 --> 01:04:40.553
Even outside of lifting and jujitsu goals, too, he accounts for other aspects

01:04:40.553 --> 01:04:41.733
of life, too, which is cool.

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Yeah, yeah, he's in there. He knows what you're working on. And so as you said,

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there's like, you know, knowing that there's the confidence of your coach being

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very aware of what you're trying to do.

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And because of that, like you said, the kind of brass tacks, like you pay him.

01:04:57.693 --> 01:05:00.153
He does all of this work to really understand what's going on.

01:05:00.573 --> 01:05:05.133
And then you open the app, man. And it's like, I'm just, like you said, this is what I got to do.

01:05:05.573 --> 01:05:08.213
It saves you a lot of time. Because he's thought through it all.

01:05:08.353 --> 01:05:12.993
Like he really thinks it through and really thinks how he wants you to achieve

01:05:12.993 --> 01:05:16.333
your goals. And so you just, yeah, it's simple.

01:05:16.613 --> 01:05:19.153
It's nice. Like you pull out the app, you're like, bang, this is it. This is what I'm doing.

01:05:19.713 --> 01:05:23.093
And then there's, I mean, he does a bunch of stuff above and beyond.

01:05:25.133 --> 01:05:28.273
The call of what he's being paid to do to help you with these things,

01:05:28.373 --> 01:05:33.613
like I'd say it exceeds the value, which is another nice thing for our ad read for him here.

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But that's obviously super helpful

01:05:37.213 --> 01:05:39.173
because, again, it just gives you more confidence when you open the app.

01:05:39.173 --> 01:05:42.773
Like all right like what i'm doing today and all week is we've

01:05:42.773 --> 01:05:46.193
done the the strategizing and the tactical piece by

01:05:46.193 --> 01:05:48.873
piece way to accomplish my goals bang just do the

01:05:48.873 --> 01:05:52.293
workout one in disclosure

01:05:52.293 --> 01:06:02.853
on this he does not pay us uh um so like the you being willing to the product

01:06:02.853 --> 01:06:06.393
is so good that we actually just want to you know we don't make money off telling

01:06:06.393 --> 01:06:10.173
you guys that we like this we just think that, we just believe in it, right?

01:06:10.333 --> 01:06:13.313
It's just a thing that's like, all right, I recommend to all of my guys at the

01:06:13.313 --> 01:06:17.013
gym, like if they ask me what I do, I say, well, this is what I do.

01:06:18.168 --> 01:06:21.948
He has something for you too, if you want to do it and he will put in whatever

01:06:21.948 --> 01:06:25.448
effort you're willing to put into it. He's going to put the effort in with, for you too.

01:06:25.748 --> 01:06:28.848
Um, which is cool. Like just the other day, I mean, he's doing,

01:06:29.088 --> 01:06:33.428
he will promote you guys on, you know, he does, he promotes everything that his clients do.

01:06:33.508 --> 01:06:37.408
Like he's, he's actually just a good guy too, which is cool. Um, um.

01:06:38.009 --> 01:06:41.749
I don't know as many of the other coaches, but they are awesome.

01:06:41.909 --> 01:06:44.649
I know Tyler just because of the times that I'm there.

01:06:44.869 --> 01:06:49.149
But the ones that I have met, they're all awesome people and seem like they're great coaches.

01:06:49.389 --> 01:06:53.489
And all of them are doing whatever they're preaching to, which is cool.

01:06:53.689 --> 01:06:59.789
You don't always run into that with coaches and trainers and all of that, right?

01:06:59.889 --> 01:07:03.889
So it's cool seeing these guys out there doing the things that they're preaching.

01:07:04.149 --> 01:07:07.389
And they're doing the training. They all train with each other.

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They're all each other's coaches so they're all on programs

01:07:10.609 --> 01:07:14.249
that they're also writing for people which is really cool um

01:07:14.249 --> 01:07:17.209
you don't always get that you know sometimes you get

01:07:17.209 --> 01:07:19.949
you see a personal trainer and they just kind of do whatever

01:07:19.949 --> 01:07:22.829
they want but then you know give the stuff

01:07:22.829 --> 01:07:26.769
to the other people so um it's that's

01:07:26.769 --> 01:07:30.109
nothing it doesn't affect this all right uh pop-ups dude

01:07:30.109 --> 01:07:33.069
um but you know it's it's uh

01:07:33.069 --> 01:07:36.349
we recommend it we recommend it we recommend

01:07:36.349 --> 01:07:39.109
it um you should do it even big john

01:07:39.109 --> 01:07:42.249
does he does have you seen how big he is he's a giant man

01:07:42.249 --> 01:07:44.929
it's big and he's strong he's big and strong and he's

01:07:44.929 --> 01:07:49.709
a world and smart and a world champion he's just it's unfair dude it's just

01:07:49.709 --> 01:07:55.209
not fair this guy out um captain america man right so that was that one uh which

01:07:55.209 --> 01:07:59.549
actually another cool point on that that is another relationship that was developed

01:07:59.549 --> 01:08:04.909
by it through the podcast because he was one of our first guests.

01:08:05.109 --> 01:08:07.249
He was one of our first guests that we ever had on the show.

01:08:08.409 --> 01:08:14.089
He also started a podcast after being on our show that night.

01:08:14.309 --> 01:08:18.549
He went and bought everything, and then they recorded a couple days later.

01:08:18.709 --> 01:08:23.349
Him and Nate started up their show, The Strong AF Club.

01:08:24.749 --> 01:08:28.449
I heard he might be bringing something back, though. I think there might be some rumors.

01:08:28.589 --> 01:08:33.109
There's rumors are brewing. that there's going to be a... More to come.

01:08:33.229 --> 01:08:38.889
There just might be a comeback from the strong AF club. I like that.

01:08:40.562 --> 01:08:42.922
It's cool seeing all these listener questions too, guys. Yeah.

01:08:43.602 --> 01:08:49.122
I appreciate that you guys are interested in topics.

01:08:49.622 --> 01:08:53.102
So do we have anything else on this one year?

01:08:53.642 --> 01:08:57.142
Man, no. I look forward to the two-year. There's almost too much.

01:08:57.282 --> 01:08:59.882
Yeah, I'm excited for this year. We will.

01:09:01.102 --> 01:09:03.482
I know we talk about it all the time. We have some cool stuff coming up.

01:09:04.682 --> 01:09:08.342
But I don't want to speak too soon, and then you guys are just excited for too long.

01:09:08.342 --> 01:09:14.302
Uh but we will we will be working on the patreon is probably the next thing

01:09:14.302 --> 01:09:18.462
uh that's just a matter of we want to make sure that we actually are providing

01:09:18.462 --> 01:09:19.822
value with it we don't want to just

01:09:20.262 --> 01:09:23.062
even if you guys do just want to give us money as we said at

01:09:23.062 --> 01:09:27.482
the top of the show i'll take your money yeah but uh we do want to make sure

01:09:27.482 --> 01:09:31.602
you guys are getting something out of it um just makes us feel better about

01:09:31.602 --> 01:09:37.922
providing a you know paywall item um but that is something we're working on

01:09:37.922 --> 01:09:40.942
I think I have created the account.

01:09:40.942 --> 01:09:43.822
I just haven't made any things on it.

01:09:43.922 --> 01:09:46.962
So we will make an announcement when that comes out too.

01:09:47.262 --> 01:09:50.142
So that will probably be like the beginning of a show. It'll just be like,

01:09:50.202 --> 01:09:52.922
hey guys, heads up. There's a Patreon now that you can sign up for.

01:09:54.522 --> 01:09:57.202
So when we do do that, it would help us out.

01:09:57.462 --> 01:10:02.342
It'll help us. I mean, obviously we have been personally investing in the show

01:10:02.342 --> 01:10:05.322
to bring you guys the best quality that we can.

01:10:05.322 --> 01:10:08.022
And um all of it will go back

01:10:08.022 --> 01:10:10.902
into the show we're not just gonna take money so the

01:10:10.902 --> 01:10:13.802
you know stuff like if you guys are honestly we can even

01:10:13.802 --> 01:10:16.782
leave it up to whoever the patreon subscribers what you're

01:10:16.782 --> 01:10:22.882
looking for and um you're just hearing me plan things out now uh you know things

01:10:22.882 --> 01:10:26.442
that you're interested in and stuff that we can it will help guide us where

01:10:26.442 --> 01:10:30.402
to put that towards too so all that any fundraising efforts go back into the

01:10:30.402 --> 01:10:34.042
show um they always have so even back in the day.

01:10:34.602 --> 01:10:38.142
Um, so, you know, that's, that's all cool stuff, guys. Um.

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Yeah, it's been a great year. We appreciate you guys listening and your questions as always.

01:10:47.139 --> 01:10:49.799
I mean, you guys have been doing it for almost the whole year now.

01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:54.739
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01:11:08.679 --> 01:11:13.659
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01:11:13.659 --> 01:11:19.539
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01:11:19.539 --> 01:11:22.819
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Discord direct deposit direct deposit yeah just start just just put checks in

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01:11:37.879 --> 01:11:40.079
We'll get them. We'll figure it out.

01:11:40.919 --> 01:11:44.079
But yeah, guys, thank you for listening. This has been Fire Drinking Coffee

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one year. One year. One year to the exact day.

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That's pretty crazy. It's been exactly one whole year.

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Our first episode dropped March 10th, 2025.

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And you are listening to this March 10th, 2026. This has been Fire Drinking

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Coffee, guys. Love you. Bye. Bye.