(Ep 48) Chatting with Adam Forster

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee, guys. Today, we have our friend from

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across the pond, Adam Forster.

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He's a little bit of a, he's now a part of the jiu-jitsu subculture lore.

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He's been all over the Instagram. You guys have probably seen some of his moves

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covered by some of the, some big names, the Meow Brothers, Dubious Dom.

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Um he's out there making

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a name for himself in the european scene he just

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got done competing at euros um and

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we met at the london open last year

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uh he's he was giving me some insider intel

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on my opponent you know helping me

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uh it will i didn't i didn't quite execute

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from his intel but that's fine it's that's on me not on him

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um bm in we're glad to have you

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on thank you for taking time i know uh with the time

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zone difference it's a little later there than it.

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Is here so adam welcome on man hey thanks

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for having me yeah no it's not too bad time so i'm

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happy to have a chat how are you guys how are you guys doing good we're

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doing good man it's a it's a good week

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for us it's about to be crazy cold here though we have

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a big winter storm supposedly coming through so there's like

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some madness at the grocery stores um yeah

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man uh so we started started uh

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down this road now with like does jujitsu take itself too seriously and we kind

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of actually you're a pretty great fit for that you're making you're making some

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funny and you know cool stuff out there on um that i've been watching i've been

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enjoying your feed uh but the thing that we've kind of come to we have a theory.

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Our theory is that Donaher has manufactured the beef between Gordon Ryan and Craig Jones.

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And we created this schematic where he's basically Emperor Palpatine and Craig

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Jones, I guess, is Count Dooku is what we decided.

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It's fluid. It's fluid. We can figure it out. We'll figure it out as we're going.

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We're building this theory right now.

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I'm liking it. i'm liking it so far i'm i've got

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my tinfoil hat on already i like it excellent and then gordon ryan

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i guess is anakin skywalker in this one and like

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craig jones is really being propped up

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by john donahue and but you know he's leading

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the current separatist movement and gordon

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ryan's he has not yet killed the younglings it's

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we haven't gotten to this part yet it's getting pretty close i

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reckon oh it's getting close padme is still alive for the time

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being he has not killed her yet yeah for now for now

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um but the question

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that we've been trying to figure out is who is

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uh obi-wan kenobi that's

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that's what we're trying to get to the bottom of we haven't really

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nailed it down yet what are your suggestions so far what what's what's what's

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the what's the few names we're going with i think the mendez bros is what tim

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said is that right uh so that that's kind of that's one we got put out there

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um somebody oh somebody fed one out there i think it was um,

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oh hang on i'll have to pull it up uh i think someone threw up placido or placida

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um placido is the one that they threw out there um i don't know what maybe they're

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like he's the one that's gonna save us all i was like well maybe he is i don't

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know but uh we'd like to hear what you think.

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For some reason my mind goes to Keenan Cornelius oh,

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oh it just seems it just

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seems the most kind of like level-headed obi-wan type

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personality around i think personally anyway isn't

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he kind of leading the uh the charge on um

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or hasn't he started like seeding american

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jujitsu too like the isn't he kind

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of starting to seed like the breakaway from brazilian jiu-jitsu

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in name and that we've evolved past

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it as well is that uh am i remembering this

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correct i've i've been i heard it from he did josh mckinney yeah

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he he yes yes i don't know

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how well it's working but try that yeah but i

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just mean like that yeah he has said and were

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uh suggested a rebrand to

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american jiu-jitsu so maybe i mean that kind of fits in

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i'm i'm working your theory here because that kind of gets into

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the uh it kind of fits in where

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like he's starting the seeds of rebellion he's starting the rebellion

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right yeah he's starting to see through the um the

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uh the facade of the senate yeah there

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we go yeah i like that i like that theory that's a

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good one i like that as a character and then who would.

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You say mikey musumechi is oh god

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jar jar i don't know that's what i said that's what we said

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yeah it's it that was my instant reaction was jar jar it's so funny i mean yeah

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all right it's it i mean that's just that's who he is now yeah man mike is a

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weird a weird guy i just something about him just rubs me the wrong way i don't know if it's just the um.

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The i mean like everyone in jiu-jitsu is like autistic but

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i feel like he's really really forcing that our last

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guest was saying he's he comes off as too nice yeah it's

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a it's a disingenuous uh niceness i

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i kind of find that's the that that's

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theory that's the running theory yeah i think

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uh tim was saying that he feels like he's jar jar binks on the dark side oh

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yeah i like that fear isn't it uh darth jar jar people are saying that yeah

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i've never heard of darth jar jar but that's new to me but i have you know what

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man it's a it's a great theory it's it's he's been like a sift the whole time

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phenomenal he was he was the he was the plant within the system.

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Yeah that mean does that mean he's the plant within the ufc now oh i guess so

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yeah i mean i guess that would be the case oh man working from the inside out god damn,

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he's the whole thing down man they sit there everywhere now he's

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playing chess or we're playing checkers god damn the system is

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infested and i guess we need to break away and start american jiu-jitsu

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and tear the whole the whole uh the

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whole empire down um but

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yeah man so you just got back from uh oh

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thanks for playing along with that too that's no you're fine um do you have

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any yeah it was good do you have any other spins off of that do you have any

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other characters you'd like to interject into this before we transition from

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here or how about no i think i think my they're like counter schematics you

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might want to think about in star wars.

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I would think while we're talking i would think while we're talking that sounds

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good um but yeah man so you just uh you

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just did your first euros right so you just got back indeed in portugal

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um yes want to give us a little rundown or

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you know yeah even just the adventure to portugal it's

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pretty cool oh man yeah so it didn't go

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exactly how i wanted to plan but i mean it's my

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first one out of the country first euros as well um lisbon's

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super cool um i'm only i'm in the uk so it was only like a

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two hour and a half two and a half hour flight super

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easy city super nice and we're like

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a 10 minute uh 10 15

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minute cab ride away from the venue it was.

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Absolutely like crazy we were the day

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after my one was a lot of uh it was

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the black belts and brown belts like master one and there

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was like people up in the stands like a football stadium just like

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screaming and like had flags and they were screaming dancing

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everything it was it was absolutely insane you couldn't hear yourself in the venue oh

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man it was wild did you watch any uh did you

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watch masters one brown belt um a friend

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of ours a friend of our meeting there yeah well i think mike's

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trying to get more intel i also intel on my oh nice i

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gotta applaud you guys for the uh the proud tradition of uh

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us uk uh intel sharing you know oh yeah

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friendship i love that yeah we're keeping

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it um keeping our um what is it

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our special relationship that's what it's called isn't it relationship that's

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it you know it's just a little bit where he's he's just giving

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me those uh i think mike he's still trying to prime you for

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intel i mean yeah uh no i mean so our friend rj i don't know if you ended up

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catching i don't i didn't see his i haven't talked to him yet since he got back

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but um our friend rj he was the guy they interviewed him and everything he's

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a guy with cerebral palsy that was competing and uh oh wow that's awesome i

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think it was light feather round.

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Yeah, I wasn't sure if you got to see him. Sounds like you were there, but.

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Yeah, and I don't think I saw the match, but man, that's awesome that he got

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involved. That's fucking cool.

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Yeah, he's a cool, he's a warrior, dude. Mm-hmm.

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That's it he's a different person he's not you we're talking about you now um what

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was uh you know how did you did you

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get through was just one match did you get uh a couple then

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just run down so in theory i had

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two matches in theory my my first

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match kept getting pushed forward so i was in the warm-up bit for a

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while uh warming up getting going and then

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my match got pushed forward by like half an hour so i'm like rushing get

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myself ready going through uh the gi check for

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the guy checked one of my arms four times the other one's

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fine just keeps checking one arm for some reason um then

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i was sitting around in the bullpen for about it's 10

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minutes 15 minutes 20 minutes and my

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match just keeps getting pushed back for some reason they weren't even calling

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my other guy then about 45 minutes later i've just been standing there i'm completely

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cold at this point and they just dequeued the guy and then okay you're on next

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uh i went for my match so i this was my technically second match so i won my

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first one because the guy didn't turn up.

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And then the second match um it was

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going well well the guy seemed very uh like

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uh aggressive but also kind of like the

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whole time he was like heavy breathing like like really

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like invested in this um and

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he like tried to slam on like a he jumped and then just tried to slam

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a footlock i got out of it i was passing half guard and

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i had the underhook and then my for some reason my brain he

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was like oh there's a lapel here i'll go for that instead as soon

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as i went for that he came up and just like took my back and

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i was defending the back for like three minutes and he finally got

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a choke on me but it happens uh he

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was like a cool dude he went on to actually win the thing which is

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uh pretty cool but um yeah it's all experience i

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had a good time and someone had to lose that day and it turned to be me so you

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can tell uh how much you compete by the mentality with that too that so um no

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thanks man yeah i mean that's that's

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cool um i mean it's it's always tough first majors i had a similar uh.

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Similar thing at my first my uh pans um

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so i totally get it you you get out there and

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like it's it's different than just the opens so um

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oh man it was in i never normally

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yeah i'm pretty like calm like i was calm

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during the match um but like after like like

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i never like i'm pretty like oh whatever happens happens but after

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i was oh shit i feel like i i feel something there's

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something inside of me i've never had a i have emotions i have

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feelings it was weird um and then

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my fiancee like came down to see me and that she

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was more upset than me and then she's getting upset i'm like

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oh please don't do this she's oh no i'm sorry i'm upset i'm like no

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don't get upset because i'm gonna get upset and she's like i need five minutes she

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went outside and then we were fine but yeah it

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was uh surprisingly emotional yeah man

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um do you feel like uh with that you had outside of just like the emotions afterwards

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do you think did you feel any difference in the nerves leading up to it or anything

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like that or do you feel like that was relatively uh not measured.

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Yeah the nerves are fine i like i usually just go into anything

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like it doesn't matter what competition like it's just gonna

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it's the same thing just like a different uh venue and like

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different people um but i think

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it was just kind of it was more i was i think i was more

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uh just kind of annoyed at myself because I could know I could

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do a lot better than that and it's one of those things I just fumbled it

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halfway through and small mistakes at that

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kind of level uh lead to um bigger

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like consequences I guess so it's kind of a bit like

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oh fuck I could have done better than that I wanted to be able to show I could

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do better than that but man someone's got to lose and then hopefully I can learn

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it from next time yeah don't don't do like I do and definitely uh remember to

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not not beat yourself because that's when i kept this what i did a few times so,

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continue oh no i definitely did it like don't get me wrong on the inside i was like oh fuck.

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But man it gave yourself like half an hour

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and i was fine what was that that's it how long have you

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trained so i've trained about six and

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a half years i started just before so

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i started the end of 2019 um and i

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did about six months and then like covid happened and over here like everything

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shut down basically for like six months six months to basically a year so my

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first the first year or so was a bit like hit miss um and yeah then it's been

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training pretty much consistently ever since.

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I did have one uh i i carry

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on go ahead brother and i was gonna

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say i got my um it took me ages to get my blue belt there

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was some uh odd politicking uh in

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my old gym and then when i did get it uh i

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did a competition the next week and then tore my acl and

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then was out for like a year essentially and i

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came back so it's been on there's been two

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periods where it's been on and off but the rest of it's been pretty consistent feeling

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good now though legs back where it needs to be uh yeah i feel

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pretty good i mean always in like there's always like a

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low hum of pain but i think that's just jujitsu yeah pretty

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much yeah yeah um and so

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so you i was gonna ask if you'd been at 40 licks

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the entire time but so i guess it seems like you were somewhere

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else and then ended up at 40 licks yeah so

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the uh my head coach um adam

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watts who's the head coach of 40 licks he started at

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another he was got a black belt from another club and that's where i started

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as well and he was always my coach like he was the first first coach i had like

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then he was always um i always went to his classes and you know it was him had

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a really good relationship and then when he went and started his um like club

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it was kind of it was affiliated with them as well like the old one and then

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um that kind of went away a little bit.

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Oh, what's that? Which happens. Yeah. But you've been, you've been,

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sounds like you've been pretty active, uh, after the leg injury and after all

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that, like I've just been firing.

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Yeah, pretty much. So, um, yeah, so I had, I like competed a couple of times

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with like white belt, I guess.

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And then I got my blue belt and a week later, I did, you know,

00:15:12.241 --> 00:15:15.881
just a random, uh, the guy swept me and my knee just exploded.

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Um and then i was just i was still training uh but

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just incredibly limited and then it took me

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about another it took me about a year to get back to competing again

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and then ever since then i just try and do like one

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every couple of months or so if i can one a month

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something like that and then yeah it's just been especially at purple

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belt i really was like oh fuck it i'm just gonna try and do as many as

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i can and it's uh snowballed quite a bit which has been really cool i mean about

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how many um how many times did you compete last year i just it seemed like you

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were pretty active but it wasn't you know counting yeah so i uh i've i worked

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out i did 58 matches last uh year,

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that's that's busy yeah i mean

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at least some of them were like i did some competitions

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where i had about uh six to ten matches on

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one day in like multiple divisions so they kind of stacked in

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like a few over like a couple of weekends but yeah

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it was a pretty pretty it was the busiest one i've had uh what's

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the outside of ibjgf what's like the um the like regional scene like in uh you

00:16:21.801 --> 00:16:25.701
know in the uk and you know what it's the tournament series there that you know

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like we have grappling industries here yeah we've got that as well um we've

00:16:29.701 --> 00:16:32.021
got grappling industries that's the one where you're going to get the most amount

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of matches we've got another one in the uk called All Stars,

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which is basically like your cheap and cheerful one. Like it costs you.

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50 quid for like three different divisions and uh

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you're gonna get like you're gonna get matches it's just a bit

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unorganized but if you want to experience like competition that's

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like the one you go to there's there's basically

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uh there's loads of competitions like

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uh every weekend essentially pretty much every weekend

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you'll be able to find a competition somewhere in the uk um yeah

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it's actually getting uh sometimes i'd say a

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little bit oversaturated at some point because there was a little

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bit of beef between some of the promoters where one

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or two of them were booking them on every single weekend and then

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obviously it splits the amount of people that can actually go to one

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of them yeah it makes sense um about what

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about how far is the like with with

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having like how far are you having to travel every other weekend like

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if you were going every weekend yeah going all

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over the uk are you able to kind of stay in like the greater london

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area so london's got probably got the most uh

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ones that are going on there's not one in london like every weekend but

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majority time like there'll be a couple of months that are in

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london or around that kind of area but i mean the uk's not

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like super big but uh if you're fancy like traveling for a day uh you can like

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find a competition each weekend pretty much i mean that's not bad so i mean

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yeah it's 58 matches are you're in you're in or around london i take it Yeah.

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So I mean, Kent, so it's like the next, like a county, like over 58.

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That's a lot, man.

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What does it mean? It's basically like, fuck how many months other than a year 12?

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Yeah. Like a four a month. Yeah. I would say it's just a month.

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A little more than four. Yeah.

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Just under five. That's a lot, dude. Yeah. It was, uh, it was two.

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Yeah. It was, uh, hectic. There was like, uh, I did a few super fights as well,

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which is pretty cool. Um, there's

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quite a lot of those kind of shows like coming up in the UK as well.

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What, what was your,

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favorite this past year specifically what is

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like your favorite uh competition experience that you

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had um like which you can

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shout the promotion if you want or you can just go specifically on like

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just the events surrounding your match however deep you

00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:53.760
want to get into that but what was your favorite competition experience

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last year cool so i did one um which

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i'm actually going on their show uh next weekend it's

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called quattrolinas it's like um it's like

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a super fight show they did the first one at the beginning of the year last

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year and i just signed i just put my

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name in the hat i don't really think of it and then someone we know

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called danielle ty who's like a really uh good uh

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female black belt in the uk she put my name forward

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because i know her and i got a spot on the show i wasn't really expecting too

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much because it was their first show when i got there it was in like a like

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a theater like venue and um uh they had we had like our own like dressing rooms

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uh we had um there was like the they were like live stream on like an mma live um thing.

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Uh we had like full production value uh we had

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like entrance music lights all this kind of stuff like it was like really like

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high quality for like their first ever event and um

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it was funny i always try and like uh

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be friends with people before the match that's just my kind of thing i was

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like chatting to people so i mean like michael like made friends um

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and yeah i had this uh i had

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this guy before my match and I was like oh I came up to him

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I was like hey man uh really looking forward to like um seeing you and like

00:20:06.040 --> 00:20:08.760
having a good match it'll be fun and he just kind of looked at me dead in the

00:20:08.760 --> 00:20:11.900
eyes and like shook my hand but kind of like threw it away I'm like all right

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that was kind of weird um I saw him later on and like in the toilet I'm like

00:20:15.840 --> 00:20:18.980
hey man looking forward to it and again just like death stares me I'm like ah

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cool oh this is this is this is fucking fun,

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and then we're um we we get on.

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The funny thing about that like they asked for like entrance music and stuff

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and i was like oh i wanted um guile's theme from street fighter 2 i was that'd

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be pretty cool to come out with two,

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and then i'm waiting to go on and then um

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i hear this music i'm like i must be the

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other guy's music and the guy's like oh you're ready to go on i'm

00:20:44.460 --> 00:20:49.140
like yeah but this isn't my music uh they end up playing um lose yourself by

00:20:49.140 --> 00:20:55.140
eminem oh no yeah yeah yeah i was like this is not the same and they're like

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and it has a really like long intro as well and he was like okay once it builds

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up go on i was like this is on music went well it is now fucking get on i'm like sweet awesome,

00:21:03.700 --> 00:21:06.560
i was like the most stereotypical like teenager thing that's

00:21:06.560 --> 00:21:10.580
eyes oh this would be really fucking cool wouldn't it yeah

00:21:10.580 --> 00:21:13.300
some tough guy music yeah yeah so i get

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on yeah i admittedly like tough guy

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music i've come on i've got my hair braid and painted nails as well

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so like and i'm against this guy i

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stand opposite him in the night on the mats and i

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do like again i'm just trying to like break the ice i give him like a

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wave and he just like stares through him like all right fine let's

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do this he like runs up to me and i fucking uchi martyren through

00:21:33.220 --> 00:21:38.420
the floor and um i just fucking just absolutely tear him apart and then um i

00:21:38.420 --> 00:21:42.600
get him like a goth lock or like scaffold like americana goes to a goth lock

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and i'm just like tearing his shoulder apart and he's not tapping he's going

00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:50.660
just exploding and he's like just refusing to tap and then finally does.

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And um yeah he gets to the end um gets the end of match like all this i fight

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like we're chatting for a bit like i'm chatting to some of the promoters and

00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:05.220
stuff then i find the guy and then he's super nice to me after i beat him whole

00:22:05.220 --> 00:22:08.400
all the time before wouldn't even speak to me he was like death staring me after

00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:10.920
i went oh hey man really appreciate that i'm like all right cool man.

00:22:12.617 --> 00:22:15.457
I guess different strokes for different folks man you broke them

00:22:15.457 --> 00:22:18.657
into a into like a friendly submission yeah i

00:22:18.657 --> 00:22:23.037
think so yeah yeah

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oh now you'll talk to me yeah now we're friends

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huh yeah yeah he's like don't hurt me again that goes back to mike was saying

00:22:32.257 --> 00:22:37.197
about jujitsu taking itself too seriously oh honestly man it was um it was very

00:22:37.197 --> 00:22:43.457
uh obviously like uh opposing personalities I had braided hair uh painting nails

00:22:43.457 --> 00:22:44.837
and I was actually like a fucking idiot,

00:22:45.297 --> 00:22:48.377
like and then this guy's like the most serious man in the world and I was like,

00:22:48.957 --> 00:22:53.537
like whatever happens like I if he loses he's gonna he will look like an idiot

00:22:53.537 --> 00:22:57.617
I already look like an idiot so I'm not gonna look like an idiot when I lose or win yeah.

00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.859
Uh i actually have a picture of one of uh one

00:23:01.859 --> 00:23:05.559
of my one of the guys i train with um and

00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:08.319
it's him smiling like jumping up

00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:11.279
and down on his side of the mat and then his opponent just has the

00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:13.999
like it's just mean mugging just waiting for

00:23:13.999 --> 00:23:17.059
the match to start so it's a i imagine it's a very similar yeah

00:23:17.059 --> 00:23:21.639
one guy's all cheerful the other guy's like i'm gonna i'm so pissed off i'm

00:23:21.639 --> 00:23:26.039
ready to fight he's all business that guy yeah i'm just like and that guy the

00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:31.099
guy who's pissed off and ready to fight gets their ass kicked so uh um yeah

00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:35.979
was so you hit the goth lock on this guy,

00:23:36.679 --> 00:23:45.939
and yeah you have a history of hitting these like crazy super like niche submissions um.

00:23:46.679 --> 00:23:49.819
And that's actually what you i

00:23:49.819 --> 00:23:53.299
didn't know this before i had met you but um once

00:23:53.299 --> 00:23:56.299
we started follow each other instagram i saw like some of yours

00:23:56.299 --> 00:23:59.159
i saw like some of your reposts of like some of

00:23:59.159 --> 00:24:03.279
your submissions getting picked up by people like dom and

00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.999
um and uh the meow

00:24:05.999 --> 00:24:12.339
brothers right so um yeah what's that like like what what were what kind of

00:24:12.339 --> 00:24:18.599
got you into looking like do you specific were you specifically looking to like

00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:23.399
are you training to be like i want to have this like crazy submission game and

00:24:23.399 --> 00:24:25.199
like, that's what I'm looking to do.

00:24:25.679 --> 00:24:31.179
Or, um, you know, like how does, how does that, you know, fit into your game?

00:24:31.299 --> 00:24:34.059
Is that something that came about naturally? Or is that something that like,

00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:39.379
after you did it once, you're like, all right, this is what my, this is my style now.

00:24:39.699 --> 00:24:41.999
Um, you know, what, what's that?

00:24:42.910 --> 00:24:48.370
Yeah. So, um, uh, like some of the, like the original one, uh,

00:24:48.930 --> 00:24:53.610
the one I had, so a few years ago, I laid like, um, it was like a loop choke

00:24:53.610 --> 00:24:55.490
where I come underneath. I kind of let the guy pass.

00:24:55.630 --> 00:24:59.350
And then, uh, there's a video that went reasonably viral where the guy like

00:24:59.350 --> 00:25:01.590
refused to tap and then just passed out from it.

00:25:02.050 --> 00:25:04.410
Like I saw that online, I was just practicing it. And I always,

00:25:04.790 --> 00:25:08.310
I've always gravitated towards kind of bullshit moves as my coach would call,

00:25:08.410 --> 00:25:11.430
as my coach would call it he goes oh that's adam foster bullshit

00:25:11.430 --> 00:25:14.270
i'm like yes it is um it's not

00:25:14.270 --> 00:25:17.030
like a uh something i aim for

00:25:17.030 --> 00:25:19.790
every time in a match but i always have one of those things in

00:25:19.790 --> 00:25:22.950
a back i try and i always have like kind of bullshit and

00:25:22.950 --> 00:25:25.770
like these are weird submissions uh in the

00:25:25.770 --> 00:25:28.470
back pocket in case you know you just end up in like a

00:25:28.470 --> 00:25:31.730
weird position that you can get something from i

00:25:31.730 --> 00:25:34.790
always find like i've got like basics like all the basics fundamentals i

00:25:34.790 --> 00:25:37.550
think i'm pretty good at those but then nine times

00:25:37.550 --> 00:25:42.830
out of ten you're going to be in a weird scenario um in jiu-jitsu that i can

00:25:42.830 --> 00:25:46.630
just find some random submission out of that's why that's my kind of like thinking

00:25:46.630 --> 00:25:49.870
about it is i've i've got the basics that's good but i need like something else

00:25:49.870 --> 00:25:52.830
in the back pocket in case things are going really badly or really weird i can

00:25:52.830 --> 00:25:55.310
just whip out and usually it uh helps me win.

00:25:55.981 --> 00:26:00.781
Yeah man having that hail mary's good i also liked it uh yeah it's now been

00:26:00.781 --> 00:26:06.761
branded on you the uh the adam forster is yeah you yeah yeah part of your brand

00:26:06.761 --> 00:26:09.361
now then that's good um yeah,

00:26:09.901 --> 00:26:15.081
my um my coach the amount like so after like a match or something um i'll like

00:26:15.081 --> 00:26:18.901
send him a video of like the match or if he's been there and seen it and he

00:26:18.901 --> 00:26:22.321
would send me like a voice note and the amount of times he's gone hey man i

00:26:22.321 --> 00:26:25.581
hate that submission but i can't have a go at you because you set up so well

00:26:25.581 --> 00:26:29.561
and it works it's like i want to hate it but i can't dude congratulations.

00:26:30.561 --> 00:26:33.241
Yeah literally he was like he gets results so i

00:26:33.241 --> 00:26:36.021
can't be angry at you for doing it yeah it's like well i guess

00:26:36.021 --> 00:26:39.701
it worked this time yeah it's

00:26:39.701 --> 00:26:42.341
like i guess it worked the four the 14 times you've done

00:26:42.341 --> 00:26:47.361
it it's like all right yeah um yeah

00:26:47.361 --> 00:26:51.741
it's it's that's good though man um how so

00:26:51.741 --> 00:26:55.801
kind of on the path of brand

00:26:55.801 --> 00:26:58.661
building right so like yeah we've got adam

00:26:58.661 --> 00:27:01.901
forrester bullshit and like you've you're

00:27:01.901 --> 00:27:08.281
super active on um you're super active on like social media putting yeah creating

00:27:08.281 --> 00:27:12.941
like these little little videos and and you know meme stuff and whatever like

00:27:12.941 --> 00:27:19.561
is that something that what's kind of been the development of that did that uh of like

00:27:19.721 --> 00:27:22.841
adam forrester the the character the brand or

00:27:22.841 --> 00:27:26.841
what i mean it's not really a character i've met you that's you are you are

00:27:26.841 --> 00:27:31.921
what you're presenting i just yeah in terms of like the uh um you know like

00:27:31.921 --> 00:27:40.021
in terms of the expression through all of that like uh was that something that came about.

00:27:41.020 --> 00:27:43.720
As time went on or did you kind of re

00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:46.980
or you know what was the the tipping point where you're like oh i'm going to

00:27:46.980 --> 00:27:53.320
start building this jujitsu brand around myself um and so yeah so like ages

00:27:53.320 --> 00:27:57.940
ages ages ago like i made like a like jujitsu like instagram account as i was

00:27:57.940 --> 00:28:01.880
going to i was like i always usually used to film my like rounds and stuff i'll put stuff on there.

00:28:02.769 --> 00:28:05.969
Put some bits i was like i like to make like kind of like funny bits every once in a while

00:28:06.349 --> 00:28:10.409
and then that video i said that went viral uh kind of got me like a bunch of

00:28:10.409 --> 00:28:15.289
like followers i was like oh that's pretty cool and then i slowly was doing

00:28:15.289 --> 00:28:17.769
like a couple of like little bits um.

00:28:18.589 --> 00:28:21.929
Like every once in a while and i'd get like some more followers this kind of stuff

00:28:22.369 --> 00:28:26.189
and then i was trying to i just kind of i don't

00:28:26.189 --> 00:28:29.029
like you like you said like i don't there's people who take juicy

00:28:29.029 --> 00:28:31.669
really seriously and there's people that don't i'm one of

00:28:31.669 --> 00:28:34.529
the people that don't because i mean it's we're rolling around the

00:28:34.529 --> 00:28:37.269
floor with like dudes we're getting sway like it's the

00:28:37.269 --> 00:28:40.709
easiest thing to make fun of and i'd rather make fun of myself so

00:28:40.709 --> 00:28:44.049
i kind of like really heavily leaned into that like i

00:28:44.049 --> 00:28:47.069
was making like a bunch of videos and then i was like this is going this

00:28:47.069 --> 00:28:50.149
is going right and it was getting me like a couple of like a few opportunities

00:28:50.149 --> 00:28:53.909
and this kind of thing and then i really

00:28:53.909 --> 00:28:56.829
made a commitment to like try and like post every single day

00:28:56.829 --> 00:29:01.069
basically i i did the the london

00:29:01.069 --> 00:29:03.889
open not the one that you i met you in the one

00:29:03.889 --> 00:29:06.929
before and i broke my foot like this

00:29:06.929 --> 00:29:09.769
big serbian dude super nice guy by the way uh broke uh

00:29:09.769 --> 00:29:13.469
straight ankle locked me and broke my foot but i didn't realize i broke my foot um

00:29:13.469 --> 00:29:16.429
and then i competed the next day on it and i was like stretching out

00:29:16.429 --> 00:29:19.369
i was like yeah this is fine and so i couldn't compete or like train

00:29:19.369 --> 00:29:22.009
or do much for a while and so i was like

00:29:22.009 --> 00:29:24.669
well if i can't train i was like still at

00:29:24.669 --> 00:29:28.189
training I was like watching or like helping coach and stuff but I was like

00:29:28.189 --> 00:29:31.069
well if I can't do this I might as well do something else and I was like okay

00:29:31.069 --> 00:29:34.809
I can't train for like probably like six weeks into two months that kind of

00:29:34.809 --> 00:29:37.769
time so I was like okay I'm just going to really commit to just making like

00:29:37.769 --> 00:29:41.069
jujitsu content like as much as I can like every single day and it's kind of

00:29:41.069 --> 00:29:42.049
like snowballed from there.

00:29:43.082 --> 00:29:46.662
Yeah man um that's really cool uh i'm i'm

00:29:46.662 --> 00:29:49.502
trying to do this we're both currently trying to like

00:29:49.502 --> 00:29:52.142
get get going on uh you know

00:29:52.142 --> 00:29:55.062
keeping up with the social media they we've been told it's important

00:29:55.062 --> 00:29:58.542
to do um so uh

00:29:58.542 --> 00:30:01.202
the brand building stuff super interesting to me

00:30:01.202 --> 00:30:05.082
right now because it's like yeah it's just where what i've been working on and

00:30:05.082 --> 00:30:10.122
thinking of for uh for like the past couple months i guess at this point um

00:30:10.122 --> 00:30:13.382
i didn't have as much time to think about it last year but now i of a couple

00:30:13.382 --> 00:30:18.822
months off competition i get to think about it um yeah man that's that's really cool uh.

00:30:19.462 --> 00:30:23.162
What other what do you do outside

00:30:23.162 --> 00:30:26.662
of jiu-jitsu do you uh you know like i don't know is there

00:30:26.662 --> 00:30:29.602
day job stuff is there hobbies outside of jiu-jitsu

00:30:29.602 --> 00:30:32.762
or you know like what who is adam forrester

00:30:32.762 --> 00:30:36.182
when he's not on the mats yeah so um

00:30:36.182 --> 00:30:39.102
originally uh there's this

00:30:39.102 --> 00:30:41.862
i've kind of like switched uh the things

00:30:41.862 --> 00:30:44.702
i do so jiu-jitsu used to be the kind of hobby but

00:30:44.702 --> 00:30:47.422
i've kind of leaned into that and try to like you know i like

00:30:47.422 --> 00:30:50.302
a coach now um i like do social

00:30:50.302 --> 00:30:53.022
media stuff um but before that and i

00:30:53.022 --> 00:30:56.202
still do it now but like my day job was i'm a freelance illustrator so

00:30:56.202 --> 00:30:59.022
like i draw stuff for a living like i went to university and like

00:30:59.022 --> 00:31:02.102
studied illustration and so i'm a i think

00:31:02.102 --> 00:31:05.222
it kind of helps i'm like a reasonably creative person i think

00:31:05.222 --> 00:31:08.142
that kind of leans into why i've got some weird bullshit like creative

00:31:08.142 --> 00:31:11.162
like submissions and i like doing all this like uh content

00:31:11.162 --> 00:31:14.642
creating in because it's just like stuff i can like make all

00:31:14.642 --> 00:31:20.882
like i can use my like uh i need a creative outlet um so jiu-jitsu is one of

00:31:20.882 --> 00:31:24.722
them um illustration that's what i do for like a day job so i commissioned to

00:31:24.722 --> 00:31:28.122
do um like artworks and stuff i've been fortunate enough to work for a lot of

00:31:28.122 --> 00:31:33.742
jiu-jitsu brands as well which is kind of like melded the two um worlds together,

00:31:34.622 --> 00:31:39.002
um other hobbies i'll probably say me and some of the guys for jiu-jitsu we

00:31:39.002 --> 00:31:40.962
like uh play dungeons and dragons as well.

00:31:41.262 --> 00:31:43.802
So just a massive fucking nerd, really. Yeah.

00:31:44.882 --> 00:31:48.762
These are all common. The artwork. You said you've done some work first in Juicy

00:31:48.762 --> 00:31:49.822
Brands in your artwork career. Yes.

00:31:51.238 --> 00:31:54.538
Yes. So I've done a few. So like one of the brands I'm sponsored by,

00:31:54.678 --> 00:31:57.778
which is a freshly baked. Like I've done like a few like designs for them.

00:31:58.218 --> 00:32:04.678
Um, just, uh, like a bunch of other, like, uh, rash car companies and just, um, that kind of stuff.

00:32:05.458 --> 00:32:09.218
And just people like, like, what was that saying? So what is freshly baked?

00:32:09.658 --> 00:32:13.598
So freshly baked is, uh, like, uh, apparel and like rash car company.

00:32:13.838 --> 00:32:16.818
Like, yeah, I, i got sponsored by

00:32:16.818 --> 00:32:20.578
them because i um the one

00:32:20.578 --> 00:32:24.338
of the i the first ibjf i did i didn't have a rash guard like because you obviously

00:32:24.338 --> 00:32:27.358
got to wear like the rank rash guards i was like nah fuck this why do i was

00:32:27.358 --> 00:32:31.838
like i don't have to pay obviously i don't mind paying but i'll ask him the

00:32:31.838 --> 00:32:35.158
guy who runs that company he actually trains at our gym i was oh do you have

00:32:35.158 --> 00:32:38.638
any like purple ones that i could like i get you from and he's like oh i'll

00:32:38.638 --> 00:32:40.358
just like give you one and you can like wear it.

00:32:41.218 --> 00:32:44.658
The uh you can wear it at the event and then we started talking and then i've

00:32:44.658 --> 00:32:47.438
started like doing designs for them and they got sponsored so you know

00:32:47.438 --> 00:32:50.238
it's all uh melded together which is pretty cool

00:32:50.238 --> 00:32:53.178
i i did like that one you were wearing it uh at

00:32:53.178 --> 00:32:57.458
the open yeah nuts yeah was

00:32:57.458 --> 00:33:00.218
that one of your designs or is that uh no that's um

00:33:00.218 --> 00:33:03.558
yeah that's like the shop design i've like done so

00:33:03.558 --> 00:33:07.178
it's it's the idea is that it's like uh it

00:33:07.178 --> 00:33:10.038
can it can be misconstrued it's meant to be like baked

00:33:10.038 --> 00:33:12.918
goods and that kind of thing but obviously it's about what weed really that's what

00:33:12.918 --> 00:33:18.098
i was trying to get at buddy yeah my my uh my other career is uh outside of

00:33:18.098 --> 00:33:22.738
jiu-jitsu is in cannabis so so i was like oh nice freshly baked tell me what

00:33:22.738 --> 00:33:26.198
is freshly baked yeah it's just picking up what you're putting down but yeah

00:33:26.198 --> 00:33:30.038
yeah yeah the lot what the other designer did from a little while ago was um,

00:33:30.618 --> 00:33:35.578
the Virgin Mary holding a weed jar in her hands.

00:33:36.658 --> 00:33:41.738
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the hell?

00:33:42.238 --> 00:33:44.858
So, dude, sorry. I'm curious. No, you're fine.

00:33:45.618 --> 00:33:50.018
I thought the laws in the UK, because like I said, I've done a little bit of work,

00:33:51.085 --> 00:33:54.345
yeah i've worked with dudes who create and

00:33:54.345 --> 00:33:57.205
um manufacture the genetics or yeah

00:33:57.205 --> 00:34:02.045
basically like seeds yeah in the united states you can oh the state-by-state

00:34:02.045 --> 00:34:06.905
thing so yeah check your uh local laws if you're listening but compliance with

00:34:06.905 --> 00:34:10.865
them but in virginia for example where you know like you're allowed to own up

00:34:10.865 --> 00:34:16.205
you can grow up to four plants at home yeah it's big like you can buy Canada seats.

00:34:16.545 --> 00:34:21.585
Well, this is a whole sub thread that I don't want to necessarily get into with you guys.

00:34:21.785 --> 00:34:25.525
It may or may not be banned in the next 11 months or so in the United States.

00:34:26.554 --> 00:34:32.294
2BD insofar as what the regulations within our country are going to look like,

00:34:32.534 --> 00:34:36.934
but you historically could own and grow plants at home.

00:34:37.414 --> 00:34:42.834
And I've done some business overseas, a little bit in the UK.

00:34:43.474 --> 00:34:46.354
And it's always been unclear to me what the rules were there.

00:34:46.354 --> 00:34:52.514
I thought it was illegal to actually own and grow the product in the UK. Yes. Is that true?

00:34:52.894 --> 00:34:56.374
Do you know? Yeah, so from my understanding, it's illegal to...

00:34:56.374 --> 00:34:59.194
Without incriminating yourself yeah yeah no i'm fine

00:34:59.194 --> 00:35:01.974
i don't ironically i don't do i don't drink or

00:35:01.974 --> 00:35:04.754
do anything i'm pretty much like but i'm like a

00:35:04.754 --> 00:35:08.014
pro i'm very much a pro cannabis anyway even though

00:35:08.014 --> 00:35:10.834
i don't do it myself but i believe the rules are like you

00:35:10.834 --> 00:35:13.734
can't do anything but the unwritten rule is uh

00:35:13.734 --> 00:35:16.714
no one cares if you smoke a joint like the police aren't going to do anything

00:35:16.714 --> 00:35:19.434
got it yeah like they'll just like ah

00:35:19.434 --> 00:35:22.314
fine but obviously it's selling and stuff

00:35:22.314 --> 00:35:25.354
is a different it is a different thing yeah we we'd um like

00:35:25.354 --> 00:35:28.114
i said i've met some some folks from the uk and it's

00:35:28.114 --> 00:35:31.174
just it to me the the legal landscape was too

00:35:31.174 --> 00:35:34.194
complicated for for myself and my team yeah

00:35:34.194 --> 00:35:36.994
there's just it was like unclear like you said i'm

00:35:36.994 --> 00:35:40.754
like it was kind of illegal but also it's legal yeah you

00:35:40.754 --> 00:35:43.334
can smoke a joint and they're not going to do anything they'll probably just tell you

00:35:43.334 --> 00:35:46.514
to like they'll just tell you to throw it away but yeah other

00:35:46.514 --> 00:35:50.374
than that yeah anything more than that they're like freshly baked

00:35:50.374 --> 00:35:53.134
you got like it's kind of like i mean there's a culture yeah yeah because you

00:35:53.134 --> 00:35:56.954
go to spain yeah no 100 there's like you're just in portugal that's just legal

00:35:56.954 --> 00:36:01.954
there yeah yeah yeah yeah because we went over we went over there uh beforehand

00:36:01.954 --> 00:36:05.634
and like i think when we like spoke to someone like mentioned obviously it's

00:36:05.634 --> 00:36:08.534
like comes up because it's like portugal but they're like oh it's do you is

00:36:08.534 --> 00:36:12.834
just decriminalized like you can just do it but it's obviously harder to get a hold of i guess.

00:36:13.906 --> 00:36:17.986
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know Portugal as well as I know Spain.

00:36:19.406 --> 00:36:23.846
Yeah. So now we're talking about drugs. Sorry, sorry. It's just drugs.

00:36:24.866 --> 00:36:33.106
But I don't, so like the, not to keep this going too long on the tangent, but for policy tangent.

00:36:34.066 --> 00:36:39.486
But like, I think the stuff here, isn't that only going to apply to the amount

00:36:39.486 --> 00:36:41.346
within CBD products that are sold?

00:36:41.566 --> 00:36:44.806
So the way it was written, real quick, man. Real quick.

00:36:46.586 --> 00:36:52.986
She used to be able to... Okay, so what happened in November of last year was

00:36:52.986 --> 00:36:58.306
when the government was shut down, at like the 11th hour,

00:36:58.846 --> 00:37:03.946
Mitch McConnell, longtime senator from Kentucky, where I'm from.

00:37:04.850 --> 00:37:13.830
And he threw in a pretty much all-encompassing hemp ban into the continuing resolution,

00:37:13.830 --> 00:37:17.650
which was the name of the bill that they passed because everyone had to pass

00:37:17.650 --> 00:37:20.830
it because it was like the government shut down for them or something.

00:37:20.970 --> 00:37:22.330
And they were like, got to get this going.

00:37:22.810 --> 00:37:30.570
Just going to slid it in there. And basically recriminalized hemp products that

00:37:30.570 --> 00:37:34.730
contain more than 0.3% THC, which is a lot of things.

00:37:34.850 --> 00:37:42.210
And other, as I recall, there's a bunch of goofy variants in hemp-derived products

00:37:42.210 --> 00:37:45.670
and THC-derived products that people turned into intoxicating,

00:37:45.910 --> 00:37:48.010
what they called intoxicating hemp.

00:37:48.410 --> 00:37:55.290
And yes, Mike, it was targeted at certain CBD slash THCA slash Delta-9 slash

00:37:55.290 --> 00:37:58.390
Delta-A, all these other derivative products that you could buy.

00:37:58.570 --> 00:38:00.310
I call them gas station drugs.

00:38:00.630 --> 00:38:04.810
I tried to target gas station drugs. or not going through like a state-by-state

00:38:04.810 --> 00:38:10.170
regulated storefront that's licensed and kind of went through that all proper

00:38:10.170 --> 00:38:12.030
compliance quarter goals.

00:38:12.230 --> 00:38:15.590
And so like, it kind of makes sense. It's not necessarily a bad idea to like

00:38:15.590 --> 00:38:18.110
deal with people who are kind of slipping through basically what was a loophole.

00:38:19.370 --> 00:38:22.030
And so there was, it was kind of like, I've been calling it like,

00:38:22.170 --> 00:38:26.330
instead of using like a scalpel, they started using a sledgehammer for the industry

00:38:26.330 --> 00:38:29.350
because it is basically banned. But they did not.

00:38:30.191 --> 00:38:34.791
Plan to enforce it right after passing it. They said, we're going to wait 12

00:38:34.791 --> 00:38:36.171
months and enforce it in a year.

00:38:36.631 --> 00:38:40.491
And my opinion tells you that they're going to leave it open-ended politically

00:38:40.491 --> 00:38:43.351
so they can figure out what they just did.

00:38:43.591 --> 00:38:45.771
Like how pissed are people going to be and they're like, should we do something?

00:38:46.131 --> 00:38:50.731
And now there's already legislations being introduced to delay even further

00:38:50.731 --> 00:38:55.071
the enforcement and or just completely get rid of the ban. Which would be nuts.

00:38:55.611 --> 00:38:58.611
Maybe like not, maybe there's more than just not

00:38:58.611 --> 00:39:01.571
re-banning something done later on sort of

00:39:01.571 --> 00:39:05.231
bringing the issue politically to the forefront because uh to

00:39:05.231 --> 00:39:09.171
your point um the the chatter

00:39:09.171 --> 00:39:12.371
has been that there were in there

00:39:12.371 --> 00:39:16.091
were i mean obviously there were there influences to folks that slid this in

00:39:16.091 --> 00:39:20.631
there but like some of the chatters that alcohol industry is upset about drinks

00:39:20.631 --> 00:39:26.771
that contain thc and cbd being in liquor stores and i don't know if that's a

00:39:26.771 --> 00:39:29.671
really big deal to the alcohol lobby, but you worked in alcohol,

00:39:29.811 --> 00:39:32.431
so maybe you tell me. But anyways, that shit. Oh, he was crushing it.

00:39:32.691 --> 00:39:36.311
Was it really? He was tearing it apart. Yeah, people are still getting hammered, dude. It's fine.

00:39:36.591 --> 00:39:41.031
Mitch McConnell's from a bourbon state, man. Of course he's got that bourbon

00:39:41.031 --> 00:39:42.831
money. But the problem for him is he's also from a hemp state.

00:39:43.871 --> 00:39:47.251
So Kentucky's huge on hemp, right? And so like Rand Paul, the other senator

00:39:47.251 --> 00:39:49.491
from Kentucky, was interesting.

00:39:49.691 --> 00:39:52.051
Like at the end, it was two guys from Kentucky debating about it.

00:39:52.850 --> 00:39:56.770
And, you know, Rand's like a, not young, but he's a younger dude.

00:39:56.770 --> 00:39:58.930
He's more like a libertarian.

00:39:59.570 --> 00:40:02.630
He's kind of like, he was trying to advocate for the hemp farmers of Kentucky.

00:40:02.890 --> 00:40:05.510
There's an industry now, is what I'm saying. So that industry's pissed.

00:40:05.650 --> 00:40:06.530
That industry's trying to figure out.

00:40:08.030 --> 00:40:14.750
And here we are. So TBD on the THC, bros. On that. Am I right?

00:40:16.370 --> 00:40:21.090
If you could bring it back to Jiu-Jitsu, it was interesting.

00:40:21.090 --> 00:40:24.370
I'm glad you brought up freshly baked is it freshly baked freshly yeah

00:40:24.370 --> 00:40:27.730
freshly baked like there's like a there's a big like cannabis slash

00:40:27.730 --> 00:40:30.570
like jiu-jitsu sub community whenever i go to these cannabis

00:40:30.570 --> 00:40:33.410
events i talk to these dudes more about jiu-jitsu than i do about

00:40:33.410 --> 00:40:36.150
business quite often yeah the

00:40:36.150 --> 00:40:39.230
the crossover between all there's a bunch of like like you

00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:42.310
said you're in like art you've interviewed a

00:40:42.310 --> 00:40:47.990
few people that are also in creative like their their job outside jiu-jitsu

00:40:47.990 --> 00:40:53.070
is also in the creative sector authors like there's crazy crossover in all of

00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:57.990
these different like the the subculture of jujitsu is like got its fingers in

00:40:57.990 --> 00:40:59.450
a bunch of other little like.

00:40:59.970 --> 00:41:04.110
Cultures it's really cool yeah i think also like with the creative like creative

00:41:04.110 --> 00:41:08.030
stuff like you said there's like you know loads of people that do like a creative

00:41:08.030 --> 00:41:10.990
job or like do stuff outside of this that is like also creative i think it's

00:41:10.990 --> 00:41:15.110
just like another creative outlet like is a different way of expressing uh yourself

00:41:15.110 --> 00:41:17.750
and it kind of like draws i mean there's a bunch of

00:41:17.990 --> 00:41:21.650
different people that get drawn to like this kind of like uh like

00:41:21.650 --> 00:41:24.550
this kind of thing and i think like definitely you got creative people

00:41:24.550 --> 00:41:27.450
is definitely one of them uh because you can be i guess it's

00:41:27.450 --> 00:41:30.210
you're like working something out like i always want to like

00:41:30.210 --> 00:41:32.930
do something or like work something out or find like a

00:41:32.930 --> 00:41:36.530
cool way of doing something and like do you see gives you a physical way of

00:41:36.530 --> 00:41:41.750
doing that i think yeah sure does it seems like it's creative people and people

00:41:41.750 --> 00:41:46.510
that are in like problem solving fields yeah those are like the it seems like

00:41:46.510 --> 00:41:52.350
i mean a bunch of the people who aren't just it seems like they're either in uh.

00:41:53.220 --> 00:41:56.120
Their background is in like engineering or like they're

00:41:56.120 --> 00:41:59.000
lawyers or they're like yeah we've we've got

00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.480
a guy at ours yeah we've got a guy at ours who's a like i

00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:05.340
can't remember what he is but he's a he's like a brain doctor like he's

00:42:05.340 --> 00:42:08.360
like he works he does like um he's doing like theses on

00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:11.100
like uh kind of like neural link kind of stuff but not like neural

00:42:11.100 --> 00:42:14.020
link but like things you can put in your brain to like you know

00:42:14.020 --> 00:42:17.440
improve it and like doing loads of diagnostic stuff i'm like man like

00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:20.260
you're so smart it's insane and he's

00:42:20.260 --> 00:42:23.740
like coming this one yeah i just like coming here as well are

00:42:23.740 --> 00:42:26.980
you hinting at that you might be getting some uh experimental

00:42:26.980 --> 00:42:29.680
tech i'm hoping so i'm really trying to

00:42:29.680 --> 00:42:32.480
butter him up yeah get the

00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.400
good let a few people do it first let their brains get all fucked up

00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.700
and then once yeah true clear you get the you get the 2.0

00:42:38.700 --> 00:42:41.800
yeah don't be alpha or beta testing that

00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:45.380
you want to know you want like pre that immediate pre-launch

00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:48.060
yeah we will test on white belts first and

00:42:48.060 --> 00:42:51.060
like the new people yeah jiu-jitsu does

00:42:51.060 --> 00:42:54.280
bring together like when i first started it was like we would

00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.460
have criminals we'd have drug dealers we'd have uh

00:42:57.460 --> 00:43:00.260
law enforcement you have military you'd have nerds you'd have

00:43:00.260 --> 00:43:04.000
athletes that's that's the beautiful thing about it yeah it's

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.700
together to fight each other yeah it's

00:43:07.700 --> 00:43:11.560
the best thing when you see um like law enforcement and then like stoners and

00:43:11.560 --> 00:43:14.380
people who are definitely criminals that later start rolling together like being

00:43:14.380 --> 00:43:18.340
like super friendly and like fun with each other like outside man that guy's.

00:43:18.340 --> 00:43:24.160
Gonna go to prison but in here man everyone's super fun it's like it's switzerland for like an.

00:43:27.059 --> 00:43:33.359
Yeah i i do also yeah i'd also make a point if there is a police officer uh

00:43:33.359 --> 00:43:37.579
rolling with us i make sure to do the stereotypical police lock on them every

00:43:37.579 --> 00:43:42.379
time and i tell them to stop resisting like that get them yeah every time yeah

00:43:42.379 --> 00:43:44.559
yeah i just hope they don't get resentful,

00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.939
oh no that's that's late in me's problem yeah true yeah but

00:43:48.939 --> 00:43:51.739
you're good you're not you're not doing any you're not consuming any drugs you're

00:43:51.739 --> 00:43:56.799
not no i'm a good boy you're good yeah you're good

00:43:56.799 --> 00:43:59.639
the usual jujitsu stoners that like that guy

00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:02.379
the guy who's showing up baked to class if he's not

00:44:02.379 --> 00:44:07.539
yeah he'll state he better be better be nice to that cop yeah don't be pulling

00:44:07.539 --> 00:44:11.759
up any adam forrester bullshit on that guy yeah yeah then you're going straight

00:44:11.759 --> 00:44:15.179
to jail yeah they'll be like i'm gonna wait for you after class and i am yeah

00:44:15.179 --> 00:44:20.239
clocking in if i was in your ass if i was a cop and you pulled off some crazy money i'd put you in jail.

00:44:20.794 --> 00:44:25.414
Yeah yeah no i do rightly so rightly so jail

00:44:25.414 --> 00:44:28.414
immediately jail yeah straight to

00:44:28.414 --> 00:44:31.454
jail straight to jail yeah we had a uh

00:44:31.454 --> 00:44:34.374
we had a guy that uh i don't

00:44:34.374 --> 00:44:38.274
know i don't care if he listens to this whatever uh he

00:44:38.274 --> 00:44:41.794
uh he was definitely like the stereotypical like if

00:44:41.794 --> 00:44:44.914
he pulled you over you'd be like oh fuck are you kidding me

00:44:44.914 --> 00:44:47.714
yeah like he was that even on the mats he

00:44:47.714 --> 00:44:50.594
was that kind of guy nice like oh this

00:44:50.594 --> 00:44:53.334
is the this is the cop who got into this to be a bully like

00:44:53.334 --> 00:44:56.714
that's how it felt like sometimes yeah uh subtweeting people

00:44:56.714 --> 00:45:00.334
right now uh but uh yeah

00:45:00.334 --> 00:45:03.234
like there's still the guys i think there's still a

00:45:03.234 --> 00:45:07.534
little bit of bleed over from like the uh the early

00:45:07.534 --> 00:45:11.014
ufc days when people were getting into it because of

00:45:11.014 --> 00:45:14.174
like you know tap out t-shirts and being macho still a

00:45:14.174 --> 00:45:17.034
little bit of bleed over from that that like they haven't

00:45:17.034 --> 00:45:19.854
not everyone's gotten out of the macho face like we've talked

00:45:19.854 --> 00:45:23.274
about they take it too seriously yeah um there's

00:45:23.274 --> 00:45:26.794
still a little bit of that uh where there's

00:45:26.794 --> 00:45:29.794
that guy who's not quite he hasn't quite melded

00:45:29.794 --> 00:45:32.634
into your community yet he's still a little bit uh

00:45:32.634 --> 00:45:35.474
trying to he's trying to be an enforcer he doesn't need

00:45:35.474 --> 00:45:38.614
to be yeah that's few and far between luckily

00:45:38.614 --> 00:45:41.334
yeah there's usually always this there's i mean

00:45:41.334 --> 00:45:44.294
there's always like one of those kind of people like in the gym and like

00:45:44.294 --> 00:45:47.274
within reason uh they kind of get like

00:45:47.274 --> 00:45:50.294
um crushed and molded.

00:45:50.294 --> 00:45:53.154
To how we want them i probably that's probably the nicest way of saying it

00:45:53.154 --> 00:45:55.994
yeah or they leave yeah i mean yeah

00:45:55.994 --> 00:45:59.194
exactly you're either gonna leave or we're gonna beat you up and mold you to

00:45:59.194 --> 00:46:03.214
how we want you to be you will comply we talked about yeah where it's like these

00:46:03.214 --> 00:46:08.554
communities are like uh i call them like little um like human bodies like immune

00:46:08.554 --> 00:46:13.574
syndrome yeah like someone comes in and if they're not a good fit in the community,

00:46:13.814 --> 00:46:15.994
you or two or three of your boys would be like, something ain't right.

00:46:16.614 --> 00:46:18.494
Either it frees it out or the immune system,

00:46:19.318 --> 00:46:23.238
Yeah, no, 100%. I always tell people, it's like, I'd like to think,

00:46:23.438 --> 00:46:26.398
and people would like, we had a few people who say, like, we have a pretty,

00:46:26.438 --> 00:46:29.118
like, friendly and, like, healthy gym culture at ours.

00:46:29.298 --> 00:46:32.158
Like, everyone's, like, super friendly. We have, like, quite a really nice, like, environment.

00:46:32.818 --> 00:46:36.978
But I say, like, if you're going to go, those kind of gyms will attract that.

00:46:37.058 --> 00:46:40.138
Like you said, like, you're going to get the same type of people go to those

00:46:40.138 --> 00:46:42.778
type of gyms, and another type of people are going to go to a different gym.

00:46:42.958 --> 00:46:45.898
And then when they go, they went, oh, this is awesome. I'm going to be a dickhead to everyone.

00:46:46.138 --> 00:46:48.278
This is what I really like. Or they go to another gym and went,

00:46:48.298 --> 00:46:50.038
oh, these people are nice. I'm going to be nice as well.

00:46:50.938 --> 00:46:57.058
What's the, what's like the greater jujitsu culture, like in the broad jujitsu

00:46:57.058 --> 00:47:04.018
culture, like in a London, like, is there the thought share like you and I had in the bullpen?

00:47:04.118 --> 00:47:10.618
Is that like, is that overall? Is there, is there a lot more rivalry? Like what.

00:47:11.756 --> 00:47:16.716
What's it like in terms of like the inter-gym community

00:47:16.716 --> 00:47:20.216
yeah there's still i mean like

00:47:20.216 --> 00:47:23.676
me and like our gym we're like super like um

00:47:23.676 --> 00:47:26.596
we're like a big proponent on like cross training and

00:47:26.596 --> 00:47:29.656
like seeing what other people are like you should definitely

00:47:29.656 --> 00:47:32.376
go train like do other things that kind of stuff like go see other

00:47:32.376 --> 00:47:35.276
people go gyms train other people share ideas that

00:47:35.276 --> 00:47:37.936
you're going to learn the best that way but there's i think like

00:47:37.936 --> 00:47:40.716
some of like the older gyms they've still stuck in their mind that

00:47:40.716 --> 00:47:43.876
like this is like you can't like they'll

00:47:43.876 --> 00:47:47.236
just get pissy about anything and they just want to keep like i

00:47:47.236 --> 00:47:50.636
know you train here yes it that's it you go another place um

00:47:50.636 --> 00:47:54.716
you can go fuck yourself that was a similar situation where like when i first

00:47:54.716 --> 00:47:58.176
started and that's when like gym politics i was like i was like i don't know

00:47:58.176 --> 00:48:01.936
why like you don't know me like i'm paying a membership here like i want to

00:48:01.936 --> 00:48:05.536
have fun and if you're like telling me i can't go anywhere else or you're just

00:48:05.536 --> 00:48:09.276
gonna be uh passive aggressive towards me for it nah fuck that like.

00:48:10.076 --> 00:48:13.056
I think it's getting better there are i think it's like kind

00:48:13.056 --> 00:48:16.896
of the old school gyms and like all the older dudes that are like um

00:48:16.896 --> 00:48:19.856
still like that but yeah but i

00:48:19.856 --> 00:48:23.096
think there's a lot of like uh like newer gyms like gyms are popping up all

00:48:23.096 --> 00:48:26.276
the time like it's really really getting like really big over here which is

00:48:26.276 --> 00:48:30.736
really awesome um and i think all like the newer gyms and some people have a

00:48:30.736 --> 00:48:37.676
bit more of a broader mindset are um kind of uh uh pushing that kind of uh idea of like, you know,

00:48:38.156 --> 00:48:41.496
cooperation, like meeting people, like sharing ideas, that kind of stuff.

00:48:41.616 --> 00:48:43.196
And I think that's better for the sport personally.

00:48:44.128 --> 00:48:46.788
Couldn't agree more yeah i think i think it's like an i was

00:48:46.788 --> 00:48:49.568
gonna say there might be like some parallels i mean like you're near london you're near

00:48:49.568 --> 00:48:52.448
the capital we're near wadding yeah we're near the capital so

00:48:52.448 --> 00:48:56.048
maybe there's like some weird infectious like politicking disease

00:48:56.048 --> 00:48:58.608
that emanates from yeah being at the center of politics in our

00:48:58.608 --> 00:49:01.408
two countries but for the most part yeah i think

00:49:01.408 --> 00:49:06.468
also there's kind of like melting pots as well for like cities yeah what's

00:49:06.468 --> 00:49:11.108
the um yeah because there's like somebody like oh go ahead go ahead no i'll

00:49:11.108 --> 00:49:13.388
say because there's like so many like different people like different cultures

00:49:13.388 --> 00:49:16.228
different like everyone's like coming over like especially like london it's

00:49:16.228 --> 00:49:22.408
like a massive city so like it you it can't help but like um bring things together

00:49:22.408 --> 00:49:26.168
i guess like try new things and like go to other gyms and that kind of stuff,

00:49:26.828 --> 00:49:34.868
yeah um i know like one of the one of the guys that i competed against when i was there um i i,

00:49:35.488 --> 00:49:38.548
can't remember like his whole jam like there

00:49:38.548 --> 00:49:44.228
they had a huge like program working with um i think it was like refugee kids

00:49:44.228 --> 00:49:50.268
um i'd have to remember what his uh but it's uh yeah royal jiu-jitsu was the

00:49:50.268 --> 00:49:54.088
name of the jam that he was at i don't know if you have know much about that

00:49:54.088 --> 00:49:56.968
it looks like they're in a different i don't know i think the city,

00:49:58.073 --> 00:50:00.633
I think I know, I think it's in like Birmingham or something.

00:50:00.753 --> 00:50:03.973
So I think I'm like in the Midlands somewhere. Sounds right. I don't know.

00:50:05.233 --> 00:50:07.693
Sounds right to me. Yeah. If it's the one I'm thinking about,

00:50:07.793 --> 00:50:12.253
it's a cool gym. Of course. Yeah. Just say, yeah. Yeah. Dude, for sure. Birmingham.

00:50:13.513 --> 00:50:18.873
But yeah, you know, I just, the small amount of, of the, you know,

00:50:18.873 --> 00:50:21.633
I'm just saying that definitely, I saw that too when I was there.

00:50:21.753 --> 00:50:25.553
So I mean, that's, I think that's probably the case in most cities, right?

00:50:25.793 --> 00:50:28.473
When you're like, you're a competitor, right? So, and I think this culture,

00:50:28.693 --> 00:50:32.633
like, um, like we've seen it over here and I've been in this area of the DC

00:50:32.633 --> 00:50:35.853
area for 15 years or 16 years for a while.

00:50:36.113 --> 00:50:41.373
And, um, I think historically what, you know, where you're located,

00:50:41.453 --> 00:50:44.453
where we're located this, these are like the trends or the patterns of like

00:50:44.453 --> 00:50:49.173
old, old school, old guard guys that you talked about who are too territorial.

00:50:49.273 --> 00:50:54.853
But as you've had a, like, like you're describing in your area,

00:50:55.053 --> 00:50:56.893
there's gyms everywhere.

00:50:57.533 --> 00:51:01.773
There's a lot of good jujitsu yeah and the best dudes have always been the ones you,

00:51:02.781 --> 00:51:05.701
They always have a good relationship with their coach. So the coach is comfortable

00:51:05.701 --> 00:51:07.041
and confident and quite frankly,

00:51:07.861 --> 00:51:12.861
encouraging their students to go around and go and try to train with other dudes

00:51:12.861 --> 00:51:17.161
because if they care about you as a student and an athlete, once you get better,

00:51:17.241 --> 00:51:19.961
they know, especially if you're competitive, you need to go out and see other

00:51:19.961 --> 00:51:21.341
people. You need to get new looks.

00:51:21.521 --> 00:51:24.161
Yeah, 100%. It's not quite the same as competition, but it kind of has that

00:51:24.161 --> 00:51:25.901
feel. You're going to someone else's gym at first.

00:51:27.281 --> 00:51:30.181
You're going into that unknown environment. Unknown bodies, right?

00:51:30.281 --> 00:51:33.141
So you're going to see something different. so it's like a mental and

00:51:33.141 --> 00:51:37.301
like literally physical exercise to like trying to do your jiu-jitsu against

00:51:37.301 --> 00:51:40.841
someone you don't know which is a lot like a tournament so they should want

00:51:40.841 --> 00:51:45.681
you to do that yeah yeah exactly because like yeah especially like if if you

00:51:45.681 --> 00:51:48.421
had if you kind of roll with the same people all the time in your own gym everyone

00:51:48.421 --> 00:51:50.301
kind of gets used to what you're doing and then,

00:51:50.821 --> 00:51:53.581
you don't get to try you don't get to try like it on a brand new

00:51:53.581 --> 00:51:56.461
person who's not going to expect you like you got your signature move whatever they

00:51:56.461 --> 00:51:59.101
don't know that so like you could really like try that on someone else and

00:51:59.101 --> 00:52:01.861
also vice versa you're coming into someone else's gym

00:52:01.861 --> 00:52:04.821
they're going to try all the stuff that they've been practicing for years on

00:52:04.821 --> 00:52:07.661
all their like teammates like on you so it's really

00:52:07.661 --> 00:52:12.241
good it's like just pressure testing what you can do yeah um

00:52:12.241 --> 00:52:15.521
i mean i you know you'll always run into your

00:52:15.521 --> 00:52:19.801
same training partners if you're just going against they know what you do like

00:52:19.801 --> 00:52:24.441
you're saying they've got they've got your whole playbook memorized at some

00:52:24.441 --> 00:52:27.761
point right especially if it's the guy like if you have a specific guy that's

00:52:27.761 --> 00:52:30.221
like your drilling partner you're

00:52:30.221 --> 00:52:33.921
like the only yeah it's your size in the gym like that definitely is.

00:52:35.090 --> 00:52:37.950
Just you just keep running into the same shit sometimes it continues to

00:52:37.950 --> 00:52:40.710
work on them they can't figure out the answer um but that

00:52:40.710 --> 00:52:44.590
also doesn't make you better right so um no exactly

00:52:44.590 --> 00:52:47.610
you need you need like different you need like different scenarios like

00:52:47.610 --> 00:52:51.150
like i said like in competition you're going to get some weird scenarios and

00:52:51.150 --> 00:52:53.710
someone's going to give you a completely different reaction than someone else

00:52:53.710 --> 00:52:58.330
that you've just used to like the whole entire time yeah um you know it creates

00:52:58.330 --> 00:53:04.670
this weird like scramble situations and on conditions like you're talking about like you

00:53:04.770 --> 00:53:09.090
don't always if you know what the person does you don't end up in um speaking

00:53:09.090 --> 00:53:12.230
of competition do you have anything coming up uh any like

00:53:12.230 --> 00:53:15.310
any big ones on the on the radar or on

00:53:15.310 --> 00:53:18.090
the schedule um you know any super fights any tournaments that

00:53:18.090 --> 00:53:21.830
you're targeting right now yeah so i've got um a

00:53:21.830 --> 00:53:24.990
super fight uh next saturday yeah

00:53:24.990 --> 00:53:28.090
next saturday is that a quattrolinas one you know i said uh

00:53:28.090 --> 00:53:30.850
when i previously talked about like one of the super fights i did

00:53:30.850 --> 00:53:33.590
so i've got a i've got a match on there which would be really

00:53:33.590 --> 00:53:36.310
cool it's like a really cool card and the event's super

00:53:36.310 --> 00:53:39.530
cool and i think i'm gonna sign i haven't signed up yet uh i've

00:53:39.530 --> 00:53:43.450
got like one or two days left to get like a the like normal entry fee but i'm

00:53:43.450 --> 00:53:50.150
gonna do the london open i think uh it's like the 22nd and 23rd of um february

00:53:50.150 --> 00:53:53.930
those are my next two i think i haven't got anything else i booked in but there's

00:53:53.930 --> 00:53:56.490
plenty of stuff around and i'm just gonna like sign up for.

00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:02.940
I love that venue for London Open. Yeah, super cool. That was one of the coolest venues I've been to.

00:54:03.500 --> 00:54:07.220
Yeah. The natural light was great. All windows.

00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:11.200
Yeah. That's cool, man. I think this will come out right after,

00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:15.620
if I'm thinking of dates correctly, I think this will come out right after you compete.

00:54:16.140 --> 00:54:19.340
Oh, dope. Right after your super fight.

00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:26.360
So that'll be, do you want to try to manifest what your finish is going to be?

00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:33.580
And then we'll see if it's right let's go yeah uh man what what what bullshit

00:54:33.580 --> 00:54:36.880
what bullshit should we say i should do what's a bullshit submission i should

00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:40.440
go for and i'm just what's what's the adam forster bullshit of the day that

00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.740
he's gonna do i we've been work we're working on like uh.

00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.320
Me and my mate have been working on this like bullshit like steven

00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:51.580
seagal like wrist lock and it's horrible yo if

00:54:51.580 --> 00:54:54.840
you wrist lock somebody in a super fight i'd be so happy yeah

00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:58.200
you get you get like mercy you know you get like mercy grips like

00:54:58.200 --> 00:55:00.920
we had fingers interlocked if you turn your

00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:03.640
fingers inwards and they just grab their wrist and turn it down it's like

00:55:03.640 --> 00:55:09.480
an aikido like thing but it's horrible it's so painful well if you do hit that

00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.780
at the super yeah please clip that and send it to us because we'll put it on

00:55:13.780 --> 00:55:17.640
the because then we'll have like the we'll be able to like we'll be able to

00:55:17.640 --> 00:55:21.080
say that you yeah tested it right here on the show oh man 100 i'm gonna get

00:55:21.080 --> 00:55:22.840
mercy straight away I did it,

00:55:23.040 --> 00:55:26.980
me and my mate, we were like working on it.

00:55:27.120 --> 00:55:30.500
We were just like, oh, I wonder if this works. We were just like playing around.

00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.380
And then my coach took my back one time and then I was playing around with it.

00:55:35.460 --> 00:55:38.900
And I like mercy gripped him from when he had my back. He was like, what are you doing?

00:55:39.120 --> 00:55:42.100
And I started like putting it on and he was like, oh, for fuck's sake.

00:55:42.240 --> 00:55:43.300
Again, like Adam Forster bullshit.

00:55:43.640 --> 00:55:47.560
And he was just using his head like to push my hand down because it was so painful.

00:55:47.560 --> 00:55:49.880
He got out of it, but I was like, hmm, there's something here.

00:55:50.140 --> 00:55:50.680
There's something here.

00:55:51.205 --> 00:55:54.325
There's something i also like that as one because uh

00:55:54.325 --> 00:55:57.305
you you won't be risking too much by going for

00:55:57.305 --> 00:56:01.845
it and then you can't yeah i'm just grabbing a hand yeah that that way it doesn't

00:56:01.845 --> 00:56:05.725
uh interfere too much with your match that's good i like it yeah risk the fuck

00:56:05.725 --> 00:56:10.885
out of that guy that's the plan you heard it here first you heard it here first

00:56:10.885 --> 00:56:17.245
the tuesday tuesday after it happened yeah the the couple of days after i like that um.

00:56:18.121 --> 00:56:22.841
So you got, you got that coming up in two, uh, two Saturdays from now,

00:56:22.921 --> 00:56:24.201
right? Next Saturday, whatever.

00:56:24.601 --> 00:56:29.781
Next, yeah. Next Saturday. Um, and then, you know, let's, let's shout out your sponsors.

00:56:30.041 --> 00:56:32.741
Let's get those out there. Cool. I appreciate it.

00:56:33.581 --> 00:56:37.181
Yeah. So I've got, um, grappler soap, uh, which keeps me clean.

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I've got freshly baked fight wear. Cause, uh, you guys are a fan of weed.

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I've got i've got um sticky

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and i've got um wtf combat power

00:56:57.181 --> 00:56:59.861
they uh sort out my geese so that's all my

00:56:59.861 --> 00:57:02.641
sponsors baby i've got affiliated links and my codes on

00:57:02.641 --> 00:57:05.961
my instagram yeah we'll uh we'll collect

00:57:05.961 --> 00:57:08.621
as much of that as we can fit in the show notes but at least get

00:57:08.621 --> 00:57:11.441
your instagram in there um yeah drop that too

00:57:11.441 --> 00:57:14.381
right now for people who are who prefer to listen to things

00:57:14.381 --> 00:57:17.281
and then we'll also put in the show notes but yeah so

00:57:17.281 --> 00:57:21.001
if you want to see um some just random

00:57:21.001 --> 00:57:25.921
bullshit and uh probably some homoerotic videos on my instagram is adam forster

00:57:25.921 --> 00:57:30.401
bjj hell yeah you gotta put that behind hey walter you gotta get like only fans

00:57:30.401 --> 00:57:35.801
or something oh man i i it's it's uh definitely uh i've definitely been thinking

00:57:35.801 --> 00:57:39.641
about it i've had some uh i've had some in i've had some aggressive,

00:57:40.421 --> 00:57:42.361
messages in my DMs from people.

00:57:42.741 --> 00:57:44.941
You're gay for pay. They're just filming. Oh man, yeah.

00:57:45.961 --> 00:57:50.561
Yeah. Do what you gotta do. Hey man. Yeah man, mum I gotta eat. I've got bills.

00:57:50.881 --> 00:57:53.481
I get it. You don't gotta tell me. Hey, you don't gotta tell me.

00:57:53.981 --> 00:57:55.221
You don't gotta tell Scott.

00:57:56.641 --> 00:58:01.141
But thank you for being on the show. No, thank you for having me. It's been awesome.

00:58:01.541 --> 00:58:05.581
Hell yeah, man. I'm glad that we were able to make this work. Hey dude, real quick.

00:58:05.761 --> 00:58:09.521
You do, it sounds like you did at least the one Nogi tournament that Mike went

00:58:09.521 --> 00:58:11.921
to last year. Yes. Pretty often. Okay, cool.

00:58:12.381 --> 00:58:15.861
So you're going to be at Euros later in the year? Yeah, man. Going to be there.

00:58:17.186 --> 00:58:19.846
We're looking at that one. I might do it. As long as the dates,

00:58:19.966 --> 00:58:22.466
as long as they don't put it on Halloween again, I'll be able to go.

00:58:22.566 --> 00:58:24.446
Oh, man. I like Halloween in Rome.

00:58:25.226 --> 00:58:31.466
Yeah, man, it'll be sick. My wife put a huge kibosh on not Halloween.

00:58:32.026 --> 00:58:37.926
She was having one of those. She was like, you cannot go to Europe for your

00:58:37.926 --> 00:58:41.046
kid's favorite holiday. Yeah. I was like, yeah.

00:58:42.466 --> 00:58:49.186
But yeah, man, we'll definitely try to – we'll stay in touch and we'll link

00:58:49.186 --> 00:58:52.646
up 100% man I've been looking for a reason to go to the UK too yeah,

00:58:53.246 --> 00:58:57.566
yeah man come we'll do the fall fall one again sounds good yeah if you do hit

00:58:57.566 --> 00:59:03.186
me up and we'll go out we'll do some bits awesome man yeah I'll probably be coming at well,

00:59:03.934 --> 00:59:07.414
Probably next time I come out there, I'll probably be coming without the family.

00:59:07.654 --> 00:59:11.854
So I don't have to stay in London. Lad's not out.

00:59:12.414 --> 00:59:16.734
Yeah, the boys. Get on the base. Go with the boys.

00:59:17.154 --> 00:59:23.774
Like that. Sunday roast after Moogie Gold again. Dude. Sunday roast was the shit.

00:59:26.354 --> 00:59:30.094
But hey, man, thanks for coming on. It was awesome. I'm glad we were able to make this work.

00:59:31.554 --> 00:59:35.694
We'll have all of those. uh, we'll at least have his Instagram in the show notes

00:59:35.694 --> 00:59:39.274
and, uh, I'll, I'll get with you and I'll get all that information and I'll,

00:59:39.274 --> 00:59:42.394
I'll at least get, uh, we'll try to direct people to your stuff,

00:59:42.494 --> 00:59:44.214
get you a little love and support.

00:59:44.414 --> 00:59:46.614
Cool. Appreciate the show notes.

00:59:47.174 --> 00:59:51.774
Um, definitely guys check out Adam Forrester. It's, I enjoy his feed.

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He's got some cool stuff going on. He has a lot of, uh, he's competing a lot

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as you can see, um, fun videos.

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So if you're deep in that jujitsu lore and into the subculture,

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he's a good uh good example of it um so

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check him out out of london a lot

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of out of kent out of kent there it is uh

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40 licks bjj uh he's a great dude and uh we're glad to have him on so that was

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fire's drinking coffee guys as always five star reviews like subscribe comment

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