(Ep 38) Blue Belt Blues: Why You Suddenly Suck After a Promotion

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee, guys. So, you've been smashing everybody in the gym.

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You're feeling great. You're the best white belt, best blue belt, whatever.

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It's promotion day. You trade that belt in.

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Your professor, your coach, whatever, puts that new belt around your waist.

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You're feeling good, right?

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You're on top of the world. I feel great. And then it's Monday.

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The next that first training afterwards you're fired up all of a sudden fired

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up you hop in you hop on the mat with those guys that you were crushing before and what happens you're.

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They start crushing you and you suck now. Right.

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We're talking about the blue belt blues guys. So when, uh, I think this happens

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to a lot of people, right.

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You get that, you're, you're feeling good at whatever belt rank you are.

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You're, you're whooping up on everyone else at your level.

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And then you get that new belt and everyone, all of a sudden,

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like those guys that you were hanging with at the next belt rank you're not

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hanging with them anymore right like we've all experienced this

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that have gone through uh promotions and

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those rank ups and everything and like you

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feel that massive skill like you feel like you suck again

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when you get the next belt because everyone stops

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going easy on you target is one of the things right and then also the guys below

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you you got that target on your back and they want to get to that rank and now

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you're the guy they need to beat because it's like oh well if i can beat him

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i'm gonna get that belt but so,

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how do we overcome that right like how do we get past this low point because

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honestly it's probably one of the driving reasons a lot of people quit at blue

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belt right like that's that's the big joke is that people to get their blue

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belt and then they're just gone right they disappear they never do jujitsu again.

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And like part of that is that they stop to feel like they stop feeling like

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they're learning they stop feeling like they're getting better and they start

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to be like oh like maybe I just sucked at this this whole time,

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so Scott what do you what do you think what's your thoughts on this what's your advice,

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you've been through more of these than I have yeah,

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having just watched Rocky 3 recently you gotta keep the eye of the tiger dude,

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You can't trade your passion for glory. It's part of the lyrics of Eye of the Tiger.

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I was going to say, I think that's verbatim. It is a good song.

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You trade your passion for glory.

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But anyways, yeah. Okay, what's my advice?

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Well, I guess the, you like you suck. The good news is, well,

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okay, there's good news and bad news. You probably suck. That's okay.

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That's okay. You don't suck as much as you used to.

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That's why you got your blue belt which is nice and I guess a couple things number one I think for,

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for the people who quit after they get their blue belt or kind of just stop showing up as much.

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It could be that a lot of these dudes,

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that's the accomplishment they wanted and they

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feel like they've like they've done it they've conquered jujitsu at

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least in you know their worldview or whatever which is you can't

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control that if that's what someone wants to do they're good

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with it maybe it's like maybe it was never really like a a

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big passion for that person i felt

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like they accomplished something like they hey i want to train some martial

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arts for a little while uh learn some skills be

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recognized for it and then i'm good with that and they're like you know i've kind of

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like i've scratched the itch on like a little bit of martial arts in my life

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which again if that's if that's what you want out of your life all right man

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so be it no problem um i don't think that's who we're speaking to we're talking

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to the people who are kind of like crap man like i thought this i thought this

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was going to be like life-changing and like man i'm.

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It feels the same. It feels the same. After, like, the honeymoon period of getting

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that belt, and that's, like, I will say, like, if you're going from white to

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blue belt and you get your blue belt, that's great. That's cool.

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Savor that. Enjoy it. Like, let it fire you up. Let it motivate you. That's awesome, man.

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You should enjoy that. It's an accomplishment. Like, you should be proud of that.

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As a coach and professor for a long time, you want that person.

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What I was saying earlier about that individual, it was like,

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I've checked the box. I would partially put the blame on ourselves as coaches

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to not plant that fire, that drive and that person to want to continue to do it.

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What I was, I guess the other part of what I'm going to say is that as the coach,

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you want that person to be excited about what they've accomplished and how they

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got there and the work they did to continue to show up and be recognized for when they get there.

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But you want them to get to the purple belt and the brown belt and the black

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belt. We want individuals to train this stuff for their entire lives.

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If they feel the drive and the desire to want to make this a part of their life.

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So that's like, I think that's, because it is for me, and any coach or professor, you're a coach,

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you're committed to this stuff, you've been doing it for so many years,

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you realize how valuable it is to you, and I think for people in that position,

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for people who are in that coaching role.

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It's like it's it's easy we've we've

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accepted and welcome like how awesome it

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is to have this martial arts

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lifestyle and so to us it's a no brain i'm like of course we want to like this

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is this is what we do now we're trying to give it back to other people now as

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coaches so we we get that and we we for the most part like i would imagine i

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can't speak for all the coaches but like for it's i think it's pretty common

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most people would nod their heads if they're a coach It's like,

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you don't want to live your life without this.

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At a certain point. So there's like this passion and excitement for the big

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picture that we should be trying to instill in people.

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And, um, we try again, you can't make if someone's checked that box,

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this is what they want to do. No problem, man.

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Um, but anyways, that's just my way of kind of addressing that.

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Let's perhaps that, that group

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of people who are like, Hey, I got my blue belt. I'm all set. No problem.

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You don't see, uh, the martial arts lifestyle is something that you want to

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do, uh, fully. No problem. All good. Can't force it on people.

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Um, you don't want to do that, but, um, let's address the other group of people

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who are like, all right, man, like, yeah, I am, I am in, I thought,

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you know, I thought I was a beast now and, um, I'm just getting murked by the

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same group of dudes who are already murking me.

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And as you said, maybe some of the dudes who haven't quite gotten the blue bubble

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are pretty tough. Like some, some good two, three, four stripe white belts who are coming after me now.

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Um, yeah, dude, that's, it's going to happen.

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And, uh, I would, uh, what I would advise.

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So to get to what you asked. Like, what's my advice? It tells people to embrace it, man.

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Like, I mean, how you got from your white, your little boat is showing up. Just showing up.

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Talked about this so many times. Just show up, man. Like, stay healthy. Keep training.

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Accept, like, the journey is, it goes, it's easy, hard, hard,

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easy. All the in-betweens. It's.

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Days change, weeks change, month change, and so far as like how well you feel like you're doing.

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And we've also talked about this, but like the other guys around you are training

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too, like they're getting better as well.

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And maybe, yeah, maybe in, I've seen it. I've probably done it.

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You've probably seen it. You've probably done it.

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Other people might get real fired up about coming after you now.

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Like you said, in a lot of training cultures, part of what makes jiu-jitsu really

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cool is that we get to spar with our training partners like almost every single class that we're in.

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And so a big part of what makes jiu-jitsu, in my opinion, one of the more interesting

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martial arts versus others where sparring isn't as common is that you earn your belts a lot of times.

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It's on merit. It's on work and tenure and merit.

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So there's like a matrix of decision-making for promoting someone.

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A lot of times it is, most of the time it's like, has this guy been showing

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up and just been consistent working hard?

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Because not everyone's skill level, like I should say, like,

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let's say, let's say, like, fighting abilities.

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Because that is part of it. It's part of it, which I think is why,

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like, a lot of these white belts are like, well, if I can beat some of these

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blue belts, the professor will think I'm hanging with the blue belts,

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which is true, by the way.

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It is part of, like, you eyeball it. And you're like, hey, man,

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this guy who's been on the mat two to four times a week for a year to two years

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is, he's starting to hang with the blue belts.

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Like, it's a big part of how we make decisions on these things.

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Yeah, you have to, there's definitely that, like, eye test against everyone

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else you promoted, right? Like, yeah.

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It differs for each person it differs gym by

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gym how they do it but um i mean

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yeah like the eye test is definitely a big part of it because you

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know if they at least if they look and match

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and can hang with everybody else in that rank it's like all right

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well that's a pretty good indicator they might be ready so for

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sure yeah yeah it is it's a big part and

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again like i said like a ton of what makes this martial

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art really exciting is that it's a it's merit-based in

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a very large part um now that's

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just a since we're talking about it you know i've i have

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no problem with and i've promoted people who maybe they're like not combatively

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as effective they don't fight as well but they show up and they work hard and

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they're great to have in the training room and they have been getting better

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they can demonstrate things they're just like hey man like you know some of

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these other guys are just tougher than me but i'm doing my work like you you promote them too.

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You give them credit for, for what they do.

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Um, I guess it's my way of saying like, you don't have to be like the toughest guy in the room.

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Like, you know, cause Hey, Hey, by the way, um, contrast some of the decision

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making around, like, let's use an example.

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Um, again, I know you've seen this. You've probably been this guy.

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There's like wrestlers who will come in who are like nasty and they beat the

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shit out of blue and purple belts and they're wearing a white belt.

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And I get into this a lot of times with my teammates with like other coaches

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and stuff like that where we have to kind of like.

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I think if you look at the promotion decision based on, and I think you should

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do this, based it on the individual you're looking at.

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And I would say at its core, going back to the meritocracy thing,

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I think it's like, it's a hard work.

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It's like this person needs to work a little bit hard. For some people,

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it isn't beating up other dudes. That isn't hard for a wrestler who shows up.

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It might be for that wrestler it might be like hey can you just be patient with

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the white belt can you are you do you do you hate wearing a white belt which

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is by the way what a lot of dudes who come in it's constant I've had this conversation I mean for.

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Two decades as long as i've been here uh where

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where other folks are like this one tough guy can beat everyone up i'm

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like okay man no problem like that's not hard for him what might

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be hard is like him suppressing his ego and being just willing to wear a

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white belt people don't want to wear white belts i don't know why it's weird yeah it's

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silly to me just wear the white belt who cares specifically in that scenario

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too with like the the wrestler

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right like yeah they're beating up on everybody but

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are they doing jiu-jitsu right like that's another

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part of that because i mean i i

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skyrocketed to purple but i've been at purple because i

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was only doing up to purple level jujitsu right like

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it wasn't surpassing that initially um and

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like now i'm doing more jujitsu but you know like got to

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purple because i was doing up to that level it was

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crushing dudes up to purple but then you get to purple and it changes right

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so like because what i did in three years i

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think and like that's a it's just a different thing once

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you get there right so it depends um i think that's super valid yeah like you

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have to make sure that the jujitsu they're doing matches the belt level it doesn't

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matter how good they are at grappling right like there's plenty of guys like

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i got john who's he's the world champ now at blue he was a national qualifier d1 wrestler but like.

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He still has jujitsu to learn. It doesn't matter that he's a world champ.

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That just means he's a really good competitor. I mean, he's also really good

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jujitsu. He's getting much better at jujitsu. He's crushing dudes.

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But, you know, like, you have to look at their jujitsu to decide. That's not up to me.

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Sure, I know what you mean. But, like, this is an example. Like,

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you have guys like that that are just really good grapplers,

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really good competitors.

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But you can't just look at, like, who they're beating.

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You have to look at how they're doing those things

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i think that's valid man um and that's like a one section

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but you also have the guys that they might never beat

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another dude in the gym because they might be 70 years old right and this is

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they're just starting jujitsu and everybody else is 20 years younger at the

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at the closest right that dude's gonna have a completely different journey to buy.

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He might never beat another person in the gym just because he's 70 years old, right?

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Like he's going to have a hard time with that, that teenager who is full of

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piss and vinegar and growing every single day, right?

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Like it's just a completely different thing.

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And so like everybody's in, they talk about this a lot, right?

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Like you, people talk to their coach, what do I need to do?

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His answer is gonna be different for every single person with

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this obviously be some amount of similarity but it's

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his decision making your professor's decision

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making whoever is promoting you their decision making is going

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to be slightly different from each one of you based

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on what your specific jujitsu journey

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is going to be and like you know it does create i know there's plenty of people

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that get imposter syndrome which we will definitely talk about um you know like

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it's it's going to be different the criteria is going to be different and you so like comparison um.

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I'm going to throw a, you know, comparison to the thief of joy, right?

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Like they talk about this a lot. You can't be looking specifically within your own gym.

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You can't be looking at like, oh, well this guy does this.

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I'm better than him, but I'm not getting promoted.

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You're going to be disappointed. You're just going to keep being disappointed

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that you're not getting promoted.

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And like, honestly, that mindset might be keeping you from getting disappointed

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or from getting promoted. Right?

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Like, um, so yeah, I mean,

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there's going to be different there's different pathways um

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but you know back to

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that what you're talking about the hard work right like some people

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yeah you need them to need them to work harder or

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because you know you have an idea of what what their

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potential is and like i might you

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know hey man like i was going to promote you

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but i actually feel like you can do better

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than you're doing and by promoting to you i'm not gonna i'm

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not gonna pull that out of you right you might not actually had that

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conversation with someone sometimes you do but you know like

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you might know like by holding this back this person's gonna

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get where i want to get to um or i

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can give them xyz goal and if they can meet that then that shows that they're

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they're listening they're learning they're trying to learn they're looking for

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that that like attainment of knowledge right so um especially when people start

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like you also can tell when people are thinking about it because they start

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reaching out to their coaches.

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They start reaching, like I had someone reach out the other day. It was like.

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What do what do i need to do so you

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know you have to well like maybe you just need maybe they just need to be patient

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maybe they just need maybe like well hey man like here's the here's the nitty-gritty

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here's the real shit you need to be doing um but as it says can be different

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for every single person right like some dudes just need to keep showing up like you said yeah um.

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Yeah well there's a lot within what

00:16:04.998 --> 00:16:08.018
you said that makes a lot of sense there's a lot of things to

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it to respond to dude um he's the first

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one i want to talk about is i think well in this

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this certainly this is it means valid i

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suppose but there's a status that comes with

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getting a belt and that's inherently motivating

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for people people are motivated by status and um

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well i want to connect this with

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a there's a lot of ways i want to do i want to continue what

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i'm saying um like you said the

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comparison thing i think that's that's really there's a lot to

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talk about there um because i see this all the time kind of

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plug for why i love the the benefits of

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keeping someone active in a competition setting because i think if you start

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if you don't have a goal it's like you you want to be you want to cultivate

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an environment where i guess i'll put it like this you want to treat everyone

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the same regardless of bell ranks with respect to certain things you know what I mean?

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Like, say, treat everyone the same. Like, if we're in a training environment,

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like, a black belt has something to say, like, yeah, like, this guy's gonna speak.

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Blue or purple belt or even a white belt like thinks like hey i have something

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to say to him like well hold on but um you you treat them all like just like

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good people you know like,

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i say this because like i think this the status psychology can cause people

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to act in really weird and complicated ways my my connection to competition

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is that if people don't have external,

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um motivation or competition like people need competition in some summer competition's

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healthy most people who come into a jiu-jitsu gym are competitive in some in some regard um and like

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you said they're going to compare themselves like wow how tough am i against these

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guys and so that that can be really beneficial if it's

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harnessed in the right way and again like not everyone has to compete but like

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there are certain i've i've known ambitious and competitive people who um have

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turned kind of ugly because they don't compete and they're very competitive

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and they're very ambitious and they then turn their internal gaze to like competing internally,

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and so then like the status battle gets it's really weird and um and it can

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be negative um and so like if you don't have like if you're really ambitious

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and competitive and you don't have

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like a pathway to express that and you translate that inwards it can be.

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It doesn't create the right environment. Yeah, it can be counter...

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It can be non-constructive?

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Yeah, non-constructive. Counterproductive. Counterproductive.

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That's the one. Yeah, that's the one. But so, like, anyways.

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I would say to people thinking about this, it's like, humble yourself and just,

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like, kind of remind yourself, you should be excited about the belt that you receive.

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And, like, you should... Nothing wrong with, like, the status that comes with

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it. That's great. Just humble yourself and say, all right, cool.

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Like, I mean, I'm only a blue belt.

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And the reason I'm saying the competition thing is because like you might get

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really good in brown black belt but compare yourself to other brown and black

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belts maybe not I mean you can do some of that internally there's nothing wrong

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with being like I'm pretty competitive in my own,

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environment but if you're trying to challenge yourself and this is like the

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whole thing is like we're all trying to challenge ourselves and grow from a

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challenge in a really positive way,

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and so you know like maybe maybe think about like hey if I'm pretty tough here

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am I tough in the Virginia area.

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Am I tough nationally? Compete. Am I tough internationally? It's like you broaden

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your gaze a little bit and say like, all right, like, cool.

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Like I want to test my mettle against other folks. If that's like for that,

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for that type of person, I should say.

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But, but yeah, I guess because I think so much of like the over,

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perhaps the undertone of all of this is like, hey, like I got promoted,

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but I don't really feel like I'm like tremendously better or different than

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I was previously. That's normal.

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That's normal because like you're still in the same room with the same dudes who i got like we said

00:20:00.131 --> 00:20:03.151
earlier all they're all getting better too like they're still they're growing

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as well um some people get that belt and they like they

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do kind of boost power level up you know which is awesome which

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is great like i mean like you know you want these individuals to grow anyways and

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to develop their skills and get better everyone should be

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doing that in some capacity to the extent that like

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they're capable of of growing at whatever velocity

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um you want that you want everyone to be getting better um

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that's just a good environment but um don't

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let like you said the comparison don't let like how

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the white belts approach you or like maybe other maybe the purple belts are

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like i'm gonna smash this guy now for a little while i'm thinking he's gonna

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because they're like they're like you're gonna come after me welcome welcome

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to purple belt bro i mean i think i've probably done that i think i've probably

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done that to people doing like oh cool god man i'm gonna smush you for a little

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bit uh big deal and now it begins yeah and it's just like just you You know,

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like, I guess what I was saying about the psychology of, like,

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you know, those types of dudes.

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It's like, hey, man, just, you know, like, the status is really cool.

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But, like, remember, like, this is a, maybe this gym is a small pond.

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There's a big, big, big ocean out there, right? Yeah.

00:21:05.118 --> 00:21:08.678
There's a lot of ways to compare yourself and let's in comparing yourself.

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Like you said, it is the thief of joy.

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Um, finding the next challenge, keeping the eye of the tiger,

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um, to really like, I think one, humble yourself and accept it.

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Like, Hey, there's more I can get out of this martial arts experience.

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It might help you a little bit. And like, ideally, and the reason why we talk

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about this, like this internal competition thing a little bit is like,

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you know, your, your teammates are your teammates. They're not your competitors.

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It's fun to like judge skill. Like you should go in and be like,

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this guy's really good at this.

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Like i want to challenge him in the training room and see if i can't like

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you know extract some skills from this dude maybe

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give a little bit back to him or her or whatever and

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um and and do that but it should be about like helping each

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other and then like if you want some competition go find it

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go get some real competition because that's like where you're gonna like

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you gotta be willing to like gotta be willing

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to face situations where you might lose and fail like you're

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serious about these about this lifestyle um and

00:22:02.238 --> 00:22:05.178
within that that's where like the real discovery and that's the courage

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and and um risk taking

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that you want i think from someone who really embodies the

00:22:11.258 --> 00:22:15.838
martial arts lifestyle um and i

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guess this is one long plug for like kind of go out if you're like

00:22:18.558 --> 00:22:21.458
a leadership position or like you're on this path and you really like what you're

00:22:21.458 --> 00:22:24.298
doing like you know go do that and then you'll reevaluate like the

00:22:24.298 --> 00:22:26.878
frame and perspective that you have for your buddies on the mat i mean

00:22:26.878 --> 00:22:29.858
you might be kind of fired up when like a blue or purple belt like puts you

00:22:29.858 --> 00:22:34.098
in a fucked up spot and you lose a little bit and then like like cool like think

00:22:34.098 --> 00:22:38.498
about that that's part of the journey anyways right like the listening mike

00:22:38.498 --> 00:22:43.178
i just gotta run yeah you're good but like that is part of the the journey is

00:22:43.178 --> 00:22:46.318
like you're not you're not like.

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Necessarily everybody trying to beat each other in the gym like you're trying

00:22:52.318 --> 00:22:57.798
to all get better you're experimenting, you're, uh.

00:22:58.925 --> 00:23:03.185
Workshopping stuff. You're trying new things out. Like, so you do also have

00:23:03.185 --> 00:23:08.685
to remember that like that guy that you just beat in the gym today was trying something new.

00:23:08.885 --> 00:23:12.825
Like that's also part of it, right? Like you should be trying to get better,

00:23:12.985 --> 00:23:16.165
not necessarily win every single round of the gym.

00:23:16.285 --> 00:23:20.045
That's right. So you also have to recognize that when you're comparing yourself

00:23:20.045 --> 00:23:21.665
to these other people internally, right?

00:23:21.745 --> 00:23:25.045
It's a different thing because we're all

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in like the acquisition phase where we're at like

00:23:27.985 --> 00:23:30.805
our own spot right like i might be doing

00:23:30.805 --> 00:23:34.005
so yeah you beat me but i was playing something

00:23:34.005 --> 00:23:37.085
that was completely different than i normally play like maybe

00:23:37.085 --> 00:23:40.045
i wasn't i wasn't doing my game or maybe i have an injury or

00:23:40.045 --> 00:23:43.985
i'm injured yeah i've trained 16 times this week i'm not at 100 like i have

00:23:43.985 --> 00:23:46.885
a tournament in a month and like i'm in the skill acquisition phase we're in

00:23:46.885 --> 00:23:49.785
the win the battle on the map yeah yeah yeah it's like you know i just wasn't

00:23:49.785 --> 00:23:54.065
feeling great today or you know that person didn't like there's it's a completely

00:23:54.065 --> 00:23:57.385
different scenario than than that.

00:23:57.825 --> 00:24:00.805
That tournament or that super fight it's just so

00:24:00.805 --> 00:24:03.865
you know like you you can't use that as your point of comparison

00:24:03.865 --> 00:24:06.645
because everything's different it's 5 30

00:24:06.645 --> 00:24:09.445
in the morning that dude was up with his baby on who fucking knows

00:24:09.445 --> 00:24:12.885
care less about the gym hierarchy yeah um that's that's

00:24:12.885 --> 00:24:15.625
i think like the the kind of the theme we're getting here like care less with

00:24:15.625 --> 00:24:18.645
the gym hierarchies like um not that like like if

00:24:18.645 --> 00:24:21.425
you i think this what we're getting at here perhaps is there's like

00:24:21.425 --> 00:24:25.445
a negative impact being obsessed with like status um not

00:24:25.445 --> 00:24:28.285
that there's any like it's just a human impulse like people like value

00:24:28.285 --> 00:24:31.325
status nothing wrong with that i suppose it's just like how you use it

00:24:31.325 --> 00:24:34.425
how it's how it's expressed um which is more

00:24:34.425 --> 00:24:37.645
or less why i was plugging like the competition like go like go fight

00:24:37.645 --> 00:24:40.445
some other other teams you know go like go go fight

00:24:40.445 --> 00:24:43.085
some other folks or go see what like someone who doesn't know and you know this

00:24:43.085 --> 00:24:46.525
guy and like you want to like if you're trying to like it's funny like i'm again

00:24:46.525 --> 00:24:51.425
i'm sure i've done this at some point um but if like the extent of your ambition

00:24:51.425 --> 00:24:54.765
is like i gotta beat so-and-so in the next whatever class and like you treat

00:24:54.765 --> 00:24:57.805
that like if i can't be like i'm gonna eat a bunch of food i'm gonna rest up that's my.

00:24:59.762 --> 00:25:02.542
Um training for three months for this day well

00:25:02.542 --> 00:25:05.382
it's like yeah i mean some people do that man and it's like it's like

00:25:05.382 --> 00:25:08.242
i guess like there's nothing wrong with the competitive impulse like want

00:25:08.242 --> 00:25:11.242
to like hey like this dude beats my ass all the time and like it's it's

00:25:11.242 --> 00:25:13.922
you know he's awesome like i mean i respect this too like i want

00:25:13.922 --> 00:25:17.322
can't i push myself to get better again so that that like these things like

00:25:17.322 --> 00:25:20.162
you can do both things like two things can be true at once like you can do this

00:25:20.162 --> 00:25:24.042
do it in like a healthy way um but in my opinion they should be connected with

00:25:24.042 --> 00:25:26.982
the like like you said skill like which is like asim talks about this all the

00:25:26.982 --> 00:25:31.022
time which is like train your assets It's like your physical attributes with

00:25:31.022 --> 00:25:33.902
a guy like him. And then you go into the gym and that's skill acquisition.

00:25:34.898 --> 00:25:41.018
And that's why, like, having, like, a superior goal, a truly ambitious goal

00:25:41.018 --> 00:25:44.558
of going out and facing, like,

00:25:45.178 --> 00:25:50.378
your potential inadequacies against unknown variables, rather than just being

00:25:50.378 --> 00:25:53.898
like, I got to be the guy in my own house. Yeah. Who's the guy?

00:25:55.418 --> 00:25:58.638
Because that, it's unsatisfying, too. Because you'll get to that point.

00:25:58.878 --> 00:26:02.298
Maybe, like, if that's your goal, you might get it. And then at what point, and then what?

00:26:03.538 --> 00:26:07.178
Then you get bored. Or then they get scared that like someone else is going

00:26:07.178 --> 00:26:09.918
to come for them. Yeah. So it's just like, it's just like a,

00:26:10.098 --> 00:26:11.058
you know, it's a weird psychology.

00:26:12.338 --> 00:26:15.498
But again, like, obviously not everyone, like people don't, not everyone thinks

00:26:15.498 --> 00:26:19.698
this way. Yeah. It's just, you know, I've seen it, you've seen it, like it happens.

00:26:20.598 --> 00:26:22.658
And like some, and those, and by the way, just every environment is going to

00:26:22.658 --> 00:26:25.918
have guys, guys exist. That's fine. And like, you know, you just deal with it.

00:26:26.458 --> 00:26:30.038
Maybe he's a knucklehead. We'll save the, maybe these people aren't so bad either too.

00:26:30.118 --> 00:26:32.358
It's like, it's not the worst thing in the world. We'll save a,

00:26:32.358 --> 00:26:36.098
we'll save a branch off of that with, for a different episode.

00:26:36.758 --> 00:26:39.978
Um, but you know, like, yeah, that's when you get into like,

00:26:40.138 --> 00:26:45.638
it's that guy that has the, the ego and there's a whole different can of worms

00:26:45.638 --> 00:26:47.458
that can open up with that and,

00:26:48.158 --> 00:26:51.458
the environment that that can create in the gym. And that's just a different

00:26:51.458 --> 00:26:52.358
thing to deal with. Right.

00:26:52.738 --> 00:26:55.578
We'll save that for a different day. Cause that's a, that could be a very,

00:26:55.758 --> 00:26:57.818
that would just completely change the episode.

00:26:58.298 --> 00:27:00.338
Right. We'll keep it on track.

00:27:01.438 --> 00:27:07.038
But I don't hate that but yeah so like here's we're talking about the guy who's

00:27:07.038 --> 00:27:09.278
the competitor right and yeah,

00:27:09.854 --> 00:27:12.894
Kind of talked about different journeys, but like. Every time we talk,

00:27:13.014 --> 00:27:15.734
dude, we always end up talking about competition. Dude, it's just who we are.

00:27:15.834 --> 00:27:17.214
It's who we are. Yeah, it's nice.

00:27:17.454 --> 00:27:22.094
It's for the listeners. It's a good path. It's what we both came up through.

00:27:22.094 --> 00:27:23.514
Why we love talking about it. It's something.

00:27:23.654 --> 00:27:25.454
We're still doing it. We're still doing it.

00:27:25.814 --> 00:27:29.414
After all these years, still doing it. This will come out after,

00:27:29.554 --> 00:27:32.474
but like, I'm competing tomorrow. I keep competing so many damn times.

00:27:32.534 --> 00:27:33.654
It's awesome, man. It's almost too much.

00:27:34.354 --> 00:27:37.874
Yeah, but you're. Sometimes I get like up to it. I'm just like.

00:27:38.034 --> 00:27:40.854
Another one. Oh, shit. But on the other side of the campaign,

00:27:41.014 --> 00:27:44.434
dude, you, you, you've finally like, you've been collecting mad data, dude.

00:27:44.694 --> 00:27:47.534
We talked about this, like, you know, off the camera, but like the amount of

00:27:47.534 --> 00:27:48.894
like, you're in campaign.

00:27:49.254 --> 00:27:52.214
I'm calling it. Yeah. We can get you to the end of campaign and your body holds

00:27:52.214 --> 00:27:53.274
up. That's what I'm talking about.

00:27:53.394 --> 00:27:56.494
That's what I want for you as your friend. well it's also

00:27:56.494 --> 00:27:59.154
tough too right because we were kind of what we were

00:27:59.154 --> 00:28:01.894
talking about is like you're not really like getting better at

00:28:01.894 --> 00:28:04.934
this point you're just like collecting all you are but you haven't

00:28:04.934 --> 00:28:09.154
you haven't given yourself a chance just yet to fully but you are collecting

00:28:09.154 --> 00:28:13.054
so much more data you just keep going further and further and further i've done

00:28:13.054 --> 00:28:16.634
this too which is good by the way i love this but like what you need that like

00:28:16.634 --> 00:28:20.194
latency i kind of jokingly think of it as like you're at the buffet yeah you're

00:28:20.194 --> 00:28:22.614
just piling i just put shit on the plate you're

00:28:23.034 --> 00:28:25.294
you're getting gains, but you got to get that like, all right,

00:28:25.414 --> 00:28:26.994
slow down and digestion period, which is coming.

00:28:27.194 --> 00:28:29.254
Yeah. You have like on the other side of this campaign, bro.

00:28:29.394 --> 00:28:30.834
Like it's, you're going to like sit back and be like, dude.

00:28:31.982 --> 00:28:34.662
15 levels higher well yeah like all right

00:28:34.662 --> 00:28:37.642
even just because it's all just like super small incremental

00:28:37.642 --> 00:28:40.502
stuff because that's all i've had time to like right it's

00:28:40.502 --> 00:28:43.382
all like that little time like all right well this happened adjust for that

00:28:43.382 --> 00:28:46.082
this happened just for that don't have time to deal with

00:28:46.082 --> 00:28:48.722
that i don't have time to do you and jason or something jason all right

00:28:48.722 --> 00:28:52.002
i have it all good good i have like text messages good

00:28:52.002 --> 00:28:54.742
i just send like this happened you need to like write that

00:28:54.742 --> 00:28:58.062
shit down man but you know it's like all those little tiny incremental things

00:28:58.062 --> 00:29:00.722
um but that's that's kind of

00:29:00.722 --> 00:29:04.462
part of what i'm getting to here is like you know you have at

00:29:04.462 --> 00:29:07.762
what point right like because i'm not

00:29:07.762 --> 00:29:10.502
making all the i'm not really i'm just advising i just

00:29:10.502 --> 00:29:14.762
say like oh like i've been noticing this person's getting it like because jason's

00:29:14.762 --> 00:29:18.562
not at every single class right like you're a critical piece of his decision

00:29:18.562 --> 00:29:21.742
making on like how this stuff happens man but i don't make i don't get i don't

00:29:21.742 --> 00:29:26.602
make the final act like decisions i don't make the um you know I can only provide

00:29:26.602 --> 00:29:29.062
information. Like I'm not making the evaluations.

00:29:29.162 --> 00:29:31.082
It's not my criteria, right?

00:29:31.382 --> 00:29:34.722
That, so I can be like, yeah, I noticed this person's doing really good at this,

00:29:34.742 --> 00:29:36.982
but for that competitor, right?

00:29:37.102 --> 00:29:42.442
Like that guy who's even, you know, got the guy who's going out there, they're winning.

00:29:42.902 --> 00:29:47.142
It might, maybe they're losing, but like, what is that process, right?

00:29:47.242 --> 00:29:51.842
Like you have that process of like, well, this guy's doing X, Y, Z.

00:29:52.122 --> 00:29:55.322
They're, they're, they're winning these. yeah

00:29:55.322 --> 00:29:58.802
they're losing too but like compiling that

00:29:58.802 --> 00:30:01.842
data right for from the side of

00:30:01.842 --> 00:30:08.622
the person that is doing the belt grading right um you know what's kind of i

00:30:08.622 --> 00:30:12.762
know it's no i'm gonna be a i know what you're asking i like this question but

00:30:12.762 --> 00:30:20.242
like how do you make the decision at what point does that person get it.

00:30:21.269 --> 00:30:24.089
Promote it okay yeah you know like how like i it doesn't

00:30:24.089 --> 00:30:27.029
be different for everybody because it's gonna be different person by person i'm sure

00:30:27.029 --> 00:30:29.709
but like you know what is what is what are

00:30:29.709 --> 00:30:32.369
the things that you look at because this will this will be good for a lot of

00:30:32.369 --> 00:30:35.209
guys that listen to this totally is like and i like that you're connecting it.

00:30:35.209 --> 00:30:40.229
To the promotion which is the core of like what we're talking about here um so

00:30:40.229 --> 00:30:43.529
we're talking about people who compete in this

00:30:43.529 --> 00:30:47.849
specific instance and i guess if i may um partially

00:30:47.849 --> 00:30:50.969
i will address the question so i guess take a step back slightly

00:30:50.969 --> 00:30:53.789
and think about it from like maybe like a holistic like community perspective like

00:30:53.789 --> 00:30:57.149
other folks on the mat who maybe don't compete um

00:30:57.149 --> 00:30:59.929
but are also working hard and they they need

00:30:59.929 --> 00:31:02.989
to be evaluated too i guess i guess there's well look i

00:31:02.989 --> 00:31:05.689
do want to hear that too well but i want to do these i.

00:31:05.689 --> 00:31:08.709
Want to break them up we can't a little bit yeah we can't that's kind of i'm talking

00:31:08.709 --> 00:31:11.429
about how i would like because i think there's a venn

00:31:11.429 --> 00:31:14.469
diagram my reason for saying this mike we can't

00:31:14.469 --> 00:31:17.309
break them up but at the same time there's i think that

00:31:17.309 --> 00:31:20.989
you unify the evaluation and

00:31:20.989 --> 00:31:23.669
it goes back to the hard work thing we talked i don't think

00:31:23.669 --> 00:31:27.949
you have to make a competitor way longer um there

00:31:27.949 --> 00:31:31.209
may be some practice like i've had conversations actually some conversations recently

00:31:31.209 --> 00:31:34.029
with people who are getting promoted where i'm like hey look like there's some practical things

00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:37.769
where it's like you've got a tournament coming up and um it

00:31:37.769 --> 00:31:40.949
may or may not make sense to time the promotion before or after

00:31:40.949 --> 00:31:44.189
this event so that like you can kind of close out whatever season whatever

00:31:44.189 --> 00:31:46.949
event at this belt rank you're the decision to

00:31:46.949 --> 00:31:49.769
promote you has already been made just a timing thing um i

00:31:49.769 --> 00:31:52.449
don't i don't i guess this is why i'm kind of segmenting it out

00:31:52.449 --> 00:31:57.029
differently dude um and but i do i can address specifically like competition

00:31:57.029 --> 00:32:01.129
psychology and how that person who may be this is my answer that person is on

00:32:01.129 --> 00:32:03.809
a slightly different path and because of their goals like you can give them

00:32:03.809 --> 00:32:07.269
like a slightly modified goal set which is oriented around like hey are we competing

00:32:07.269 --> 00:32:10.889
um but nonetheless you can do this in a way where like they're not.

00:32:11.835 --> 00:32:16.175
They're working on different things than someone who's on the skill development

00:32:16.175 --> 00:32:21.575
and like this is a casual hobby thing for me, but like hold them to relatively similar timelines.

00:32:21.835 --> 00:32:24.155
You don't want to like ice out someone just because they're competing or ice

00:32:24.155 --> 00:32:25.195
out someone who's not competing.

00:32:25.535 --> 00:32:28.135
I don't think you should do that. Like that's why I'm approaching it from like

00:32:28.135 --> 00:32:31.215
a community perspective. Gotcha. But I do think they're different paths.

00:32:31.735 --> 00:32:35.875
And so, but maybe it's like a Venn diagram where there's alignment between the

00:32:35.875 --> 00:32:38.555
two and you can kind of pull value in both sides.

00:32:38.555 --> 00:32:44.315
So um with your competitor and this is this is a lot of why we keep we always

00:32:44.315 --> 00:32:46.675
talk about competition and we're talking about it now even though this is an

00:32:46.675 --> 00:32:47.575
episode about promotions,

00:32:48.655 --> 00:32:53.695
um the reason why we like that pathway is because i think it it i think it gets

00:32:53.695 --> 00:32:57.815
the student oriented towards a true understanding of the martial art because

00:32:57.815 --> 00:33:01.375
they have to demonstrate the martial art against someone who is determined to

00:33:01.375 --> 00:33:04.775
stop them in a competitive environment so it makes that person really like get

00:33:04.775 --> 00:33:06.575
the principles of what we're doing.

00:33:06.655 --> 00:33:10.715
That's why it's such a valuable vector for teaching a person.

00:33:11.115 --> 00:33:13.315
That's why we always recommend it. Um, um,

00:33:14.158 --> 00:33:16.698
I think it's a good true north. And you don't have to do it.

00:33:16.798 --> 00:33:20.098
You can still get a lot of that from being on the mat too because of what we said earlier.

00:33:20.238 --> 00:33:22.838
It's like being on the mat is an inherently competitive experience.

00:33:23.938 --> 00:33:26.418
So you have to kind of get to these things. But having that true,

00:33:26.418 --> 00:33:29.918
I have a tournament against randoms, I don't know.

00:33:31.158 --> 00:33:37.218
I think it's a slightly more challenging version of the martial art again. That's just my take.

00:33:40.878 --> 00:33:46.098
Nonetheless, with competitors, dude I mean I printed out some stuff I think you,

00:33:46.978 --> 00:33:52.938
you get the chance to convey to them all of the stuff that you do in martial

00:33:52.938 --> 00:33:55.758
arts versus perhaps someone who's just on that like show up to class and skill

00:33:55.758 --> 00:33:58.898
acquisition which is great too those people need to be promoted too.

00:34:00.338 --> 00:34:04.898
There's this whole world of like disparate techniques and things you can do in jiu jitsu,

00:34:05.738 --> 00:34:09.718
and learn skills and have a lot of fun and I

00:34:09.718 --> 00:34:12.858
guess we'll use the word competition if you

00:34:12.858 --> 00:34:15.598
seek the value and wisdom that

00:34:15.598 --> 00:34:18.538
you can extract from competition to really gain understanding in this martial art

00:34:18.538 --> 00:34:21.478
you're going to need to learn how to like attack a

00:34:21.478 --> 00:34:25.058
game plan learn how to play this competition like a sport it's

00:34:25.058 --> 00:34:28.998
going to require you to like um simplify things

00:34:28.998 --> 00:34:31.758
you'll need to you need to take a lot of data that you've

00:34:31.758 --> 00:34:34.758
received and distill it down to something you

00:34:34.758 --> 00:34:38.178
can execute so i what i would argue and i guess

00:34:38.178 --> 00:34:41.338
my my my thought process on some of these things is I think it forces the competitor

00:34:41.338 --> 00:34:44.598
and this is why I was saying it's like such a great way to like get to the root

00:34:44.598 --> 00:34:47.698
of the martial art is that you may take all the different things you've learned

00:34:47.698 --> 00:34:50.118
over the last year and a half two years you're like let's say that white double

00:34:50.118 --> 00:34:54.478
belt tenure and say you know I have five minutes against an opponent or six

00:34:54.478 --> 00:34:57.858
minutes whatever your time limit is like I can't do everything that I've ever

00:34:57.858 --> 00:34:59.698
learned I got to do like four things,

00:35:00.338 --> 00:35:03.458
just to pick a number but I do these four things really really well so I think

00:35:03.458 --> 00:35:05.578
it takes all the noise of the martial art and says like,

00:35:05.778 --> 00:35:10.958
all right, like I've got to like discipline myself to focus on the following

00:35:10.958 --> 00:35:16.058
moves and tactics as best as I possibly can to be able to perform against true competition.

00:35:17.102 --> 00:35:21.782
And so I just, I think, you know, to connect to the question about promoting, I think that

00:35:22.202 --> 00:35:24.262
can become part of, and this is sort of what we were talking about with you,

00:35:24.322 --> 00:35:26.242
where it's like, you're doing, like, you're in campaigns, so,

00:35:26.262 --> 00:35:28.762
like, you're working your game plan over and over and over, and you're kind

00:35:28.762 --> 00:35:30.762
of making audibles in between these, like,

00:35:31.122 --> 00:35:33.842
your four days off that you have to, like, go do your next one,

00:35:34.142 --> 00:35:36.662
which isn't a ton of time, but the time's coming for you to kind of be like,

00:35:36.722 --> 00:35:39.922
all right, man, I've got mad data, and I'm like, really going to take this game

00:35:39.922 --> 00:35:41.382
plan, and before next year's campaign.

00:35:41.982 --> 00:35:45.042
You will be a whole different person, find a person.

00:35:45.042 --> 00:35:50.562
But anyways that same individual is doing that and they're they're forcing themselves

00:35:50.562 --> 00:35:54.902
like crucible by fire to like take a look at those four things if that's what

00:35:54.902 --> 00:35:59.142
like them and their coach have have listed out as like this is how i want you

00:35:59.142 --> 00:36:01.402
to like really like approach your matches,

00:36:01.922 --> 00:36:05.182
let's go on let's let's let's test the let's test

00:36:05.182 --> 00:36:08.022
the thesis statement let's get the data let's see like okay do we

00:36:08.022 --> 00:36:11.042
have the right game plan um can you execute

00:36:11.042 --> 00:36:13.882
the game plan if it's a four piece like I just said four

00:36:13.882 --> 00:36:16.682
parts just for the sake of conversation like you know

00:36:16.682 --> 00:36:19.302
you're getting step one step two really well step three you're getting

00:36:19.302 --> 00:36:22.002
a little jammed up but like hey that's telling us something so maybe it's

00:36:22.002 --> 00:36:25.162
still a good game plan but like we got to work on step three or whatever or maybe

00:36:25.162 --> 00:36:27.902
there's something in step one and step two that's like just a little bit off that's

00:36:27.902 --> 00:36:30.882
causing you it's like we get to do the science experiment of like getting the

00:36:30.882 --> 00:36:35.302
data and run through all that and so I think I think you give that person the

00:36:35.302 --> 00:36:39.402
same rigor that you would give a non-competitor um of like hey this person it

00:36:39.402 --> 00:36:43.262
goes back to the hard work thing right this person's like just like they're

00:36:43.262 --> 00:36:47.862
challenging themselves and they're putting in the effort to try to learn um.

00:36:48.602 --> 00:36:51.382
And so and there there are lots of cases where like i have competitors i'm like

00:36:51.382 --> 00:36:55.222
this guy's tough got it got it down i have no problem with all of that but i

00:36:55.222 --> 00:36:58.682
i want them to like actually to show up and maybe maybe maybe actually go do

00:36:58.682 --> 00:37:02.902
the experience of the non-competitor a little bit hey for you you're good on on fighting and,

00:37:03.571 --> 00:37:06.331
you're tough as fuck. That's great. That's, I'm not worried about that.

00:37:06.531 --> 00:37:08.991
And you can get your belt based on that. That's no problem when the time comes.

00:37:09.411 --> 00:37:12.891
Um, but maybe like you just to go show up to some other classes and like play

00:37:12.891 --> 00:37:15.471
around a little bit, try to learn some stuff that we don't do in competition

00:37:15.471 --> 00:37:18.011
just to, cause that maybe that's the hard work for that guy.

00:37:18.111 --> 00:37:20.371
Going back to me, like the wrestler example, it's like, you're already very tough.

00:37:20.651 --> 00:37:23.051
Can you just wear the white belt and like go to some other classes and actually

00:37:23.051 --> 00:37:25.971
try to learn something different instead of just doing what you know all the time.

00:37:26.291 --> 00:37:29.171
So I think it's, it is a little bit of like challenging that person to.

00:37:29.871 --> 00:37:33.251
If we look at the broader picture of all of the different assets that,

00:37:33.751 --> 00:37:38.731
go into make all the different metrics that go into making the decision on the

00:37:38.731 --> 00:37:42.171
promotion and saying, all right, like, let's find the thing that's not so easy

00:37:42.171 --> 00:37:44.411
for you. And let's make you do the thing that's a little bit more of a challenge.

00:37:44.611 --> 00:37:47.051
Some people's the challenge is like literally putting on the white belt and

00:37:47.051 --> 00:37:49.951
just showing up to class and be like, I'll do jujitsu wrestler example,

00:37:50.171 --> 00:37:51.851
where it's like, can you just wear the white belt?

00:37:52.011 --> 00:37:54.511
Why do you not? It's dial back to ego.

00:37:55.111 --> 00:37:57.491
Um, and, and maybe for the, for the person who's doing that,

00:37:57.571 --> 00:37:58.871
it might be like the other person,

00:37:58.931 --> 00:38:02.311
the person who's the student saying like, let's just do one competition to get

00:38:02.311 --> 00:38:05.971
you to challenge yourself a little bit um if you

00:38:05.971 --> 00:38:09.071
want a more tactical answer on the on the because perhaps

00:38:09.071 --> 00:38:12.251
you do on the competitor thing i think it's i to put

00:38:12.251 --> 00:38:15.211
a little bow on that one i think we have the four-piece combo you're

00:38:15.211 --> 00:38:19.571
a competitor let's say you're you've been on the mat for a year you're a white

00:38:19.571 --> 00:38:23.151
belt with like two or three stripes and like at the end of if it's the big january

00:38:23.151 --> 00:38:27.651
of 2025 at the end of 2025 you know we're gonna eyeball a blue belt we have

00:38:27.651 --> 00:38:30.451
an entire year to have you compete let's say a handful of times let's see if

00:38:30.451 --> 00:38:33.731
we can just get a little bit better at all of these things. Are you gaining an understanding?

00:38:33.951 --> 00:38:36.511
Can you maybe teach it back to me? Can you at least convey to me like what we're

00:38:36.511 --> 00:38:38.751
doing? I don't know about something like that because there's still blue belts.

00:38:39.371 --> 00:38:41.451
We're white, they're going to the blue belts. So it's like, you're not trying

00:38:41.451 --> 00:38:45.751
to like, I don't, even if it's a person who's a competitor, I'm not like approaching

00:38:45.751 --> 00:38:49.691
that white to blue belt competitor as you need to be thinking like a purple belt.

00:38:49.931 --> 00:38:52.511
Because there's still just blue belts. Still white to blue belts.

00:38:53.851 --> 00:38:57.211
So there's, like that's why I was having that unification of like.

00:38:59.171 --> 00:39:01.831
Rigor to the person because I don't think you...

00:39:03.113 --> 00:39:06.413
Well, not every competitor is going to be a world champ either, right? Right.

00:39:06.613 --> 00:39:09.293
They don't, like, that was kind of, like, you don't have to be the best.

00:39:09.393 --> 00:39:12.113
Well, what I was going to say, too, is, like, I mean, like, I do think there's

00:39:12.113 --> 00:39:13.593
some validity saying, like, hey, this guy's actually,

00:39:13.753 --> 00:39:17.353
like, if you approach it as an individual, sometimes you get people who are

00:39:17.353 --> 00:39:20.413
just, like, extremely gifted, and, like, they will be, like,

00:39:20.433 --> 00:39:24.893
they might master that game plan, like, the blue belt test, really fucking fast, man.

00:39:24.993 --> 00:39:28.333
And, like, sometimes you got to give people, like, I guess what I'm saying is,

00:39:28.433 --> 00:39:32.033
like, no, traditionally blue belts can be between, like, one to two years.

00:39:32.033 --> 00:39:35.113
The sweet spot being like one and a half right the mid mid-tier there but there

00:39:35.113 --> 00:39:37.293
are lots of people out there who get promoted fast and like i have no problem

00:39:37.293 --> 00:39:39.053
with like if someone can actually,

00:39:39.713 --> 00:39:44.033
master the requirements um maybe they do extra work maybe they show up like

00:39:44.033 --> 00:39:47.653
eight you know eight sessions a week dude and so they're doing that moneyberg

00:39:47.653 --> 00:39:50.353
example they're doing all the work in the amount of like you know they're they're

00:39:50.353 --> 00:39:51.833
compressing they're doing extra work or whatever,

00:39:52.933 --> 00:39:56.133
um if someone can like really pull that off i'm not opposed i mean i think you

00:39:56.133 --> 00:39:59.333
at a certain point you have to kind of like again if that person's so gifted

00:39:59.333 --> 00:40:01.233
you might just have to say like you got to do it for you.

00:40:01.473 --> 00:40:04.553
I'm cool with like having like some, some parameters, but like,

00:40:04.833 --> 00:40:07.693
I'm not opposed to like giving someone like a quick promotion if like this person,

00:40:08.193 --> 00:40:09.333
authentically has earned it.

00:40:09.653 --> 00:40:12.013
Um, I don't think you got to box them on and be like, I want to cook them a

00:40:12.013 --> 00:40:16.153
little bit longer just cause. Um, does that make sense? Yeah. Like it's, um.

00:40:17.012 --> 00:40:21.632
You're seeing them actually try to get better. They're, they are good,

00:40:22.252 --> 00:40:25.152
but they're actively trying to improve.

00:40:25.372 --> 00:40:28.652
They're not just being like, Oh, I'm already good. Right. Like I was good.

00:40:28.752 --> 00:40:31.872
Cause what I was going to say is like, throw a, you know, throw the,

00:40:31.872 --> 00:40:34.752
that twist of like, you have the guy who's like, well, coach,

00:40:34.912 --> 00:40:37.052
I win every single match.

00:40:37.612 --> 00:40:42.212
And it's like, well, dude, you, but you, you don't try to do anything new.

00:40:42.392 --> 00:40:46.672
Right. Like, but if you have that guy who they go in,

00:40:46.672 --> 00:40:49.572
they win but at the but they come

00:40:49.572 --> 00:40:52.772
back and they're still trying to do

00:40:52.772 --> 00:40:56.612
something new they're trying to learn like that that person's trying to actually

00:40:56.612 --> 00:41:02.012
get better right versus because that was kind of what i was uh well this i wasn't

00:41:02.012 --> 00:41:04.632
trying to guide you to be like i was thinking of like you know you had that

00:41:04.632 --> 00:41:09.832
guy who's like well i went all the time so and so is like 50 50 but so and so got

00:41:10.192 --> 00:41:13.432
promoted i didn't get promoted you're like well dude you do the

00:41:13.432 --> 00:41:16.292
same thing over and over again you do the same thing

00:41:16.292 --> 00:41:19.352
when you're training too you aren't doing new

00:41:19.352 --> 00:41:23.392
things you're not learning more jiu-jitsu right

00:41:23.392 --> 00:41:25.852
well that's why i think what we were talking about the individual approach where

00:41:25.852 --> 00:41:28.432
it's like i like the idea of saying like let's take a look at this individual

00:41:28.432 --> 00:41:31.272
let's just make them do a little bit of hard work because like you said like

00:41:31.272 --> 00:41:34.592
for that person like we get it like say you're a nasty wrestler you can go for

00:41:34.592 --> 00:41:37.932
a headlock guillotine everybody and out of 10 times every single class for a

00:41:37.932 --> 00:41:41.692
year like dude are the hard work for that person might be the patience thing

00:41:41.692 --> 00:41:42.852
like you have a little bit of patience.

00:41:43.767 --> 00:41:46.687
Like i might be that guy i'm like this guy just needs to stay patient like he

00:41:46.687 --> 00:41:49.547
needs to do some shit that he's not so good at like you said just make him do

00:41:49.547 --> 00:41:50.567
something a little bit challenging.

00:41:51.647 --> 00:41:54.527
Um it's okay man play guard yeah no i think exactly

00:41:54.527 --> 00:41:57.207
i think we're saying the same thing i think like because like you said i think

00:41:57.207 --> 00:42:00.367
there's like the core concept is like are you working on growth are

00:42:00.367 --> 00:42:03.587
you just like working on because i have this conversation all the time too with

00:42:03.587 --> 00:42:06.527
like you know with other folks who are kind of on the council if you will decision making

00:42:06.527 --> 00:42:10.147
for promotions with like this dude beats everyone in the gym like cool it's

00:42:10.147 --> 00:42:14.047
not like it's invalid it's definitely a part of the stew for making the decision

00:42:14.047 --> 00:42:17.827
for sure because again it's a merit-based sport like it's like you want to give

00:42:17.827 --> 00:42:20.387
people credit for like they're good they're good man i'm not trying to like

00:42:20.387 --> 00:42:26.667
you know sandbag anybody but also like all right yeah but this guy he's not doing any gi.

00:42:27.367 --> 00:42:30.147
And he knows he's got to wear a little bit of gi i'm not saying you gotta do like

00:42:30.147 --> 00:42:32.987
you if this person's if there's

00:42:32.987 --> 00:42:35.767
a humility aspect to like saying i'm gonna go do the

00:42:35.767 --> 00:42:38.707
thing that i'm not as i'm not as great at and that

00:42:38.707 --> 00:42:41.567
i respect you know yeah because that's like

00:42:41.567 --> 00:42:44.307
you said that's that's the growth part like how how serious you're

00:42:44.307 --> 00:42:47.787
about growth or how seriously you just really want the status it's growth

00:42:47.787 --> 00:42:50.667
versus status you're just thirsty for status and

00:42:50.667 --> 00:42:53.927
you think just getting every black belt in the gym is gonna like it again

00:42:53.927 --> 00:42:57.887
it's it's not invalid like she's nasty the gate team but like that's cool man

00:42:57.887 --> 00:43:02.687
but like it's because you submitted a black belt you skip the line yeah like

00:43:02.687 --> 00:43:05.407
but like you should you can still be proud of that like dude i can fucking get

00:43:05.407 --> 00:43:10.187
it like cool i got a pretty sick move nice i love that but like go do something

00:43:10.187 --> 00:43:11.247
a little bit different chart.

00:43:11.427 --> 00:43:14.307
Like, let's get you from white belt. There are white belt wrestlers who will

00:43:14.307 --> 00:43:17.947
show up or like one wrestlers. You show them one game team. I promise you there are dudes out there.

00:43:18.207 --> 00:43:21.327
Jason Nolfe. Just smashed. Jason Nolfe just got his blue belt. I think.

00:43:21.467 --> 00:43:23.067
I don't know. I don't even know what ranked Jason Nolfe was.

00:43:23.067 --> 00:43:28.307
He just got his blue belt. Jason Nolfe's been competing against like professionals and he wins.

00:43:28.547 --> 00:43:32.167
Yeah, he's been competing at like the elite level in jiu-jitsu. Like right away. Yeah.

00:43:32.507 --> 00:43:35.147
And like he's a phenomenal, by the way, credit to him because guess what he

00:43:35.147 --> 00:43:38.927
did? I don't know I don't know the guy personally but like.

00:43:39.581 --> 00:43:41.381
He was wearing a white belt and he was doing that. And he was,

00:43:41.541 --> 00:43:44.081
at least he got promoted to blue belt. I'm sure he, I don't know if he was bitching.

00:43:44.161 --> 00:43:47.581
He's, he's a, that's a serious athlete, a serious athlete who's like,

00:43:47.721 --> 00:43:50.621
fuck it, I'll go compete because I think I'm fucking nasty. That's,

00:43:50.721 --> 00:43:51.741
that's what you should do.

00:43:52.001 --> 00:43:54.141
That again, goes back to competition. Like if you're that good,

00:43:54.221 --> 00:43:56.441
like, cool, man, let's go fucking go win some shit.

00:43:56.781 --> 00:43:59.221
Cause like the status thing internally, like you're going to get your belt eventually.

00:43:59.341 --> 00:44:01.221
Can you just chill for a second?

00:44:01.361 --> 00:44:04.601
Like you got to like chill with the status thing. Like if you really want status,

00:44:04.661 --> 00:44:07.721
let's go do something hard. Go, let's go prove it in public, which I support that.

00:44:07.881 --> 00:44:10.641
I'm not opposed to status. this status here may

00:44:10.641 --> 00:44:14.101
not be enough for your skill set and ambition let's go find a real challenge

00:44:14.101 --> 00:44:20.381
for you I have dudes who you know who are like this yo man let's get you out

00:44:20.381 --> 00:44:25.761
let's get you out on the track you little Ferrari let's run you around and let's

00:44:25.761 --> 00:44:30.301
go get off the hamster wheel let's get you out there man that's great.

00:44:31.821 --> 00:44:35.121
The internal status will come why

00:44:35.121 --> 00:44:38.321
do you care so much about that I understand why it's

00:44:38.321 --> 00:44:41.801
also like yo man there's bigger things you might be really capable of doing

00:44:41.801 --> 00:44:45.921
so let's just like harness these impulses in a healthy way Jason Dolph's a phenomenal

00:44:45.921 --> 00:44:49.581
example of that cause I don't even I think maybe he's a purple belt now and

00:44:49.581 --> 00:44:53.501
I bet he got promoted pretty quick he just got his blue belt that's I thought

00:44:53.501 --> 00:44:56.261
that was true he just got his blue belt cool right at like the,

00:44:56.901 --> 00:45:00.941
Kingsway opening yeah and I bet you what they're doing is they're being like

00:45:00.941 --> 00:45:04.361
nice man like you're sick as fuck at wrestling your positional grappling is

00:45:04.361 --> 00:45:07.881
probably higher than most black belts but like it's a mission game or whatever,

00:45:08.041 --> 00:45:10.901
or guard, or whatever. Like, let's challenge you to do some other things, and guess what?

00:45:11.021 --> 00:45:15.621
And I bet you Jason Olf is perfectly fine with a smile on his face to receive

00:45:15.621 --> 00:45:19.561
that blow-butt from Gordon Ryan, and he should be, and then still goes out and

00:45:19.561 --> 00:45:22.581
just merks black belts who are world champions on, like, a competitive...

00:45:22.581 --> 00:45:24.861
Like, that's a good way to take that type of person and say,

00:45:24.881 --> 00:45:27.481
let's make the most of this guy's experience. Well, it's like what we've...

00:45:27.481 --> 00:45:31.541
We've talked about this with, like, being able to have...

00:45:33.109 --> 00:45:36.489
Be that white belt we're actually going to do an episode

00:45:36.489 --> 00:45:39.929
on this which actually might come out before this episode but

00:45:39.929 --> 00:45:43.489
white belt mentality right like what

00:45:43.489 --> 00:45:46.549
is like being new at something is

00:45:46.549 --> 00:45:49.569
actually super exciting i love it right like

00:45:49.569 --> 00:45:52.269
i like like this i learned how to

00:45:52.269 --> 00:45:55.749
fucking audio edit i didn't know like you know

00:45:55.749 --> 00:45:58.709
but i didn't really know how to do that before this i was like i was

00:45:58.709 --> 00:46:02.249
enjoying like reading tutorials on how to fucking edit

00:46:02.249 --> 00:46:05.429
audio let's get better at this right like yeah yeah that's

00:46:05.429 --> 00:46:08.529
exciting to people the go out and smash everyone

00:46:08.529 --> 00:46:13.929
that's a different story right like that's a different path than what you're

00:46:13.929 --> 00:46:17.869
like that you don't have those don't have to be the same thing right your progress

00:46:17.869 --> 00:46:25.809
in the gym and your progress in competition can be separate things you could be blue belt world champ.

00:46:26.529 --> 00:46:31.329
But still approach training like a white belt. Right. And learn and learn and

00:46:31.329 --> 00:46:33.389
learn and learn, right? And by the way, the best competitors.

00:46:33.969 --> 00:46:37.909
Yeah, like all those guys, that's why most of them don't care about belt levels,

00:46:38.069 --> 00:46:41.709
right? Like Nicky Rob was smashing dudes before he got his black belt.

00:46:41.869 --> 00:46:43.849
He didn't care about that black belt.

00:46:44.369 --> 00:46:47.169
That was just a cool thing at the end of the, right? That's the cool thing that

00:46:47.169 --> 00:46:48.449
happened, but that wasn't the goal.

00:46:48.669 --> 00:46:55.009
And he had a healthy realm to express his competitive impulses to,

00:46:55.129 --> 00:46:55.869
which was like fighting.

00:46:56.049 --> 00:46:58.829
Yeah. immediately the top dude yeah yeah yeah which is awesome but

00:46:58.829 --> 00:47:01.849
but by the way that aligned with this talent and abilities which

00:47:01.849 --> 00:47:05.229
is why like i think what we're saying is having these dual pathways i couldn't

00:47:05.229 --> 00:47:09.149
agree more yeah like so you know it's if you're

00:47:09.149 --> 00:47:12.789
that dude um that's yeah

00:47:12.789 --> 00:47:15.849
you can be go out there and do your a game

00:47:15.849 --> 00:47:19.329
at a tournament and smash everybody but and

00:47:19.329 --> 00:47:22.749
that's great that's awesome like you should like that's that's phenomenal be

00:47:22.749 --> 00:47:25.709
and get your medals like go fucking express that

00:47:25.709 --> 00:47:29.169
that's awesome but don't let that be your journey

00:47:29.169 --> 00:47:32.289
in the gym you're right like that's what like yeah i'm

00:47:32.289 --> 00:47:35.109
i do i tell i tell my guys this all the

00:47:35.109 --> 00:47:39.869
time i am really good at like two or three things right like that's my like

00:47:39.869 --> 00:47:46.269
um you know you when you are especially when you're a competitor you basically

00:47:46.269 --> 00:47:54.069
try to have like i am a black belt at these moves i am not a black belt because I am not excellent at,

00:47:54.229 --> 00:47:56.729
like, I don't have the knowledge,

00:47:56.949 --> 00:47:58.869
you know, like, you're not quite there.

00:47:59.409 --> 00:48:03.969
Um, but you know, it's like, uh, I think I've been listening to a lot.

00:48:04.049 --> 00:48:06.909
I listened to a lot of podcasts cause it helps me get better at podcasts.

00:48:07.489 --> 00:48:10.389
Um, Josh McKinney was talking about that, right?

00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:14.669
His, he was kind of walking through what he tells people for belt ranks.

00:48:14.749 --> 00:48:21.649
And he's talking about like at purple belt, you should be becoming a black belt at one or two moves.

00:48:21.669 --> 00:48:25.909
One move is really all he looks for like hey you should be able to like you

00:48:25.909 --> 00:48:27.829
should be the best at whatever thing,

00:48:28.662 --> 00:48:34.342
And as you get better and better, you start getting better and better funneling to those positions.

00:48:34.462 --> 00:48:40.602
And it might be like, Hey, like I'm able to funnel to this position from one other position.

00:48:40.742 --> 00:48:43.142
And as you get better and better, now you can do it from two positions.

00:48:43.722 --> 00:48:47.202
Now you can do it from everywhere, right? Like as you get better.

00:48:48.722 --> 00:48:53.422
And like, if you can only win, if you're in that position by chance,

00:48:53.662 --> 00:48:55.842
you're not the next rank yet, right?

00:48:55.842 --> 00:49:00.162
Like you need to spend the time in the gym, getting better at directing everything

00:49:00.162 --> 00:49:04.042
and get better at the other positions so that you can always get to your position

00:49:04.042 --> 00:49:07.802
and that you need to be in in competition. Um, like, yeah,

00:49:08.380 --> 00:49:13.960
Spoiler alert, my funnel position is north-south Camorras. I'm going to get

00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.320
you there. That's what I'm looking for.

00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:20.180
All you competitors, all the guys we can compete against, listen to the show.

00:49:20.180 --> 00:49:21.420
Listen to the show. They're going to listen to the show.

00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:25.640
As long as they share and tell five friends, we'll deal with that.

00:49:25.680 --> 00:49:28.520
Hit the five stars. We'll move on to the next thing surreptitiously.

00:49:29.900 --> 00:49:32.220
By the time they hear this, you're going to be on to the next motherfucking.

00:49:32.340 --> 00:49:33.740
Yeah. You're going to keep them guessing.

00:49:33.740 --> 00:49:40.380
But you know like that's that is my funnel that's a position i'm funneling to right and so um but.

00:49:41.140 --> 00:49:44.420
That's not enough like just being

00:49:44.420 --> 00:49:47.340
good at that isn't enough i have to be able to

00:49:47.340 --> 00:49:50.820
be good in enough everything else to get to that because

00:49:50.820 --> 00:49:53.660
if i'm just good at kimuras but i can never get to a position

00:49:53.660 --> 00:49:56.900
to do the kimura and i'm only winning by chance it's

00:49:56.900 --> 00:49:59.880
not good enough right like that's not especially if you're

00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.900
just in the gym and you're just like oh i'm just kimurian people when

00:50:02.900 --> 00:50:05.920
i end up on top it's not enough you need to be able to do more

00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:09.120
and as an expression i like that that psychology

00:50:09.120 --> 00:50:12.640
on like purple belts um and kind of like assessing them i

00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:16.260
think that's really i love that um i would

00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:19.200
say as an extension of that too if we're talking about like higher belts now and

00:50:19.200 --> 00:50:23.240
like progression there definitely a a

00:50:23.240 --> 00:50:26.400
i'll call it an expression like definitely an expression of

00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.420
your your skill at whatever that one thing

00:50:29.420 --> 00:50:32.260
and then eventually like it becomes two things or whatever but like that's how

00:50:32.260 --> 00:50:35.100
we're looking at those purple belts i think this is around the

00:50:35.100 --> 00:50:38.540
time where you ask them to teach to other people because

00:50:38.540 --> 00:50:41.180
if you really are good at it you understand it and then can you

00:50:41.180 --> 00:50:44.600
communicate in that that's i mean again this is a higher belt thing we're talking

00:50:44.600 --> 00:50:47.100
about promotions where it's like all right like now can you give back to the

00:50:47.100 --> 00:50:51.180
community are you trying to show up can you help other people get good things

00:50:51.180 --> 00:50:55.880
you're really good at too and start to you know give back and become a coach

00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:00.360
not every high belt is going to be a coach there's nothing wrong with that they don't want to coach.

00:51:01.100 --> 00:51:04.380
But I like the idea of like and I think it's connected to what you're saying

00:51:04.380 --> 00:51:07.600
it's still a skill thing for that individual it's like alright man how well do you know it,

00:51:08.327 --> 00:51:12.247
Can you explain it? Yeah, I know. Can you make like five white belts?

00:51:12.507 --> 00:51:13.427
Learn it faster than you.

00:51:14.047 --> 00:51:19.627
Like I know some, and it all depends on what your affiliation is,

00:51:19.707 --> 00:51:23.407
how everyone, but like I know some gyms and some affiliations,

00:51:23.607 --> 00:51:26.267
like their black belt test is a seminar, right?

00:51:26.327 --> 00:51:29.887
Like, I mean, you've already kind of decided at that point, but like that is,

00:51:30.667 --> 00:51:32.907
you provide a seminar and you get your black belt.

00:51:33.087 --> 00:51:37.247
Like that's, I know some people, that's how they do it. That's a cool idea.

00:51:37.247 --> 00:51:40.807
And so, you know, like it, it makes sense, right?

00:51:40.907 --> 00:51:44.447
Like you should be able to teach those things in a concise enough manner that

00:51:44.447 --> 00:51:46.347
someone would pay for a seminar for it.

00:51:46.427 --> 00:51:49.247
Right. Like at that point, like, yeah, you probably are like,

00:51:49.507 --> 00:51:52.187
at least at the thing you're teaching a black belt, but you know,

00:51:52.247 --> 00:51:54.907
like that's definitely, that definitely makes sense.

00:51:56.107 --> 00:51:58.947
Um because yeah i mean if you can explain it

00:51:58.947 --> 00:52:02.507
and you can show it to someone else and they can and like we talk about all

00:52:02.507 --> 00:52:07.307
the time you do it concisely quickly and people actually can learn it and like

00:52:07.307 --> 00:52:11.087
yeah obviously people are going to ask questions whatever but like if you can

00:52:11.087 --> 00:52:14.707
get someone to at least be able to do it and walk them through it you probably

00:52:14.707 --> 00:52:17.307
know the thing really well um for sure,

00:52:18.634 --> 00:52:24.534
I love it. So, in summary, just keep training. Care less about the way the map battles are going.

00:52:25.254 --> 00:52:27.274
You can still care, but just don't let it be your entire world.

00:52:28.054 --> 00:52:31.114
You know, push yourself. That's cool. Just be excited. Like,

00:52:31.594 --> 00:52:35.014
all right, man, I got a target on my back now. Big deal. Fun.

00:52:35.814 --> 00:52:37.874
And that person's going to have a target, too. Because they're going to be like,

00:52:37.934 --> 00:52:39.674
oh, no, I want to fight the purple belts a little bit tougher.

00:52:39.774 --> 00:52:41.774
The purple belts are going to know that. They're going to smush you for a little

00:52:41.774 --> 00:52:43.634
while. It's just like you're going to keep training.

00:52:44.114 --> 00:52:46.014
Like, if it took you two years to get your blue belt, cool.

00:52:46.754 --> 00:52:50.274
Just two more years. and then two more years and then two more years and then it's a life sentence.

00:52:50.654 --> 00:52:54.314
Yeah, well, I definitely, once you tell people when promotions are,

00:52:55.394 --> 00:52:59.114
they all, dude, tennis goes, everyone's the best student possible.

00:53:00.314 --> 00:53:03.634
I know, like, I know, like, the second people find out of promotions,

00:53:04.374 --> 00:53:07.954
I'm like, are you all just, why are you all being so mean to me now?

00:53:08.394 --> 00:53:11.454
You know, because, like, I'm usually, like, one of the ranking guys and I'm

00:53:11.454 --> 00:53:14.474
like, you're all going way harder than usual. Like, hey, man,

00:53:14.494 --> 00:53:15.914
I'm just trying to, I'm trying to help you.

00:53:16.394 --> 00:53:19.854
Why are you, why are you fighting me yeah no and here's the other thing too

00:53:19.854 --> 00:53:23.254
like i mean it's uh perhaps it sounds like we're downplaying like the belts

00:53:23.254 --> 00:53:26.934
and like belts are cool man it's fun like i i like seeing people light up when

00:53:26.934 --> 00:53:29.214
they get their belt it's fun it should be exciting like it's like,

00:53:29.814 --> 00:53:34.254
it's a bit it is a big deal it's a be proud of your work and that's that's what

00:53:34.254 --> 00:53:37.094
we're here to recognize it is really cool i don't want to make it sound like

00:53:37.094 --> 00:53:39.434
i'm downplaying these things it can be easy to like look at that and be like

00:53:39.434 --> 00:53:43.294
it's black belt like you know when you've had a black belt for like,

00:53:43.940 --> 00:53:46.760
10 years or whatever like it's it might

00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:50.020
sound like that but it is a big deal it's cool it's just like it's

00:53:50.020 --> 00:53:52.760
not everything not everything well and remember what got

00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:56.920
you there you didn't have the belt did all the work and you got the belt just

00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:00.600
keep that attitude you know yeah i'm just gonna show up and do the work attitude

00:54:00.600 --> 00:54:05.440
i was gonna say like it it is one of those things where like the that like super

00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:10.620
cliche like the journey is the thing right like the belts are just.

00:54:11.640 --> 00:54:14.440
Checkpoints they're just telling you where you are along the way

00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:20.020
but they're not they're not the reward like it'll be very easy to get down about

00:54:20.020 --> 00:54:25.080
it especially in a sport you know in a activity a hobby a sport whatever it

00:54:25.080 --> 00:54:34.040
is to you it only has what five belts and only like four of them you're awarded uh.

00:54:35.055 --> 00:54:37.775
It's it would be very easy to get

00:54:37.775 --> 00:54:40.935
down about it if all you're thinking about is being the

00:54:40.935 --> 00:54:43.835
award the awarded a belt what you're

00:54:43.835 --> 00:54:46.635
the journey the skill acquisition the knowledge that

00:54:46.635 --> 00:54:49.515
you gain is really what's the most important and like

00:54:49.515 --> 00:54:52.715
if you focus on that let's take care of themselves everything

00:54:52.715 --> 00:54:56.135
else will just happen you'll get you'll get where you want to go and it's

00:54:56.135 --> 00:54:59.435
fine if your goal is to get those belts awesome but like

00:54:59.435 --> 00:55:02.955
don't let that be the entire definition of

00:55:02.955 --> 00:55:06.215
your journey through jiu-jitsu um it's fun

00:55:06.215 --> 00:55:09.075
have fun with it always have fun that should be like rule

00:55:09.075 --> 00:55:12.435
number one with jiu-jitsu is have fun um keep

00:55:12.435 --> 00:55:15.495
it fun man you know so yeah for

00:55:15.495 --> 00:55:18.875
all you guys that are coming off of belt promotions listening to this yeah

00:55:18.875 --> 00:55:21.815
yeah because that's where we both have uh both our gyms

00:55:21.815 --> 00:55:26.795
are doing belt promotions on the 15th the same day so this will be coming out

00:55:26.795 --> 00:55:31.575
this will be the following tuesday uh so we're talking to all those guys that

00:55:31.575 --> 00:55:36.835
were just to belt promotions that we saw and either put through promotions or

00:55:36.835 --> 00:55:39.415
were a part of somebody else's promotions.

00:55:39.575 --> 00:55:42.295
They got their stripes. Uh, so, you know, that's what this is.

00:55:42.895 --> 00:55:47.755
That's what inspired this. Um, but yeah, guys, for all of them,

00:55:48.075 --> 00:55:51.655
hopefully this, you know, keeps you going.

00:55:52.195 --> 00:55:56.895
Uh, and for everybody else, I hope it's something, uh, that helps you out in

00:55:56.895 --> 00:55:57.855
your journey and jujitsu.

00:55:58.155 --> 00:56:03.995
Cause we're all, we're all on the road together um yeah guys this was fighters

00:56:03.995 --> 00:56:08.495
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00:56:08.495 --> 00:56:15.375
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discord that's in the show notes as well we also

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have a couple i need to go and change one of them we have

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some links in the uh in the description as

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well that'll get you guys some discounts one on some

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sweet gear from cruise combat we're still working on that

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uh they're very busy people small businesses

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that's how it goes they're busy people uh so he's

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still working on it but we're gonna have some cool stuff for you guys coming from

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them uh in the near future once we

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have that we will share that information with you guys that's another

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reason to follow the instagram um but also most most most important five stars

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wherever you're listening to the show you hit that that gets us in front of

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more people that helps grow the show so we can keep giving you guys more and

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more content to more and more people. Our information will get to their ears.

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But yeah, thanks guys. Thank you. Goodbye.