(Ep 26) Dimitri Chrisos and Copa Virginia

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Welcome to Fighters Drinking Coffee. Today, we have our special guest,

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Dimitri Krizos, here with us today.

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Dimitri, go ahead. Hi, guys. Thank you for having me.

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First of all, I was surprised that you invited me on your podcast.

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And the reason is that I don't drink coffee. Yeah, that is.

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I mean, when you rejected my coffee advice, I don't know.

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It's up for debate at the moment. But you're here. We're not going to kick you

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out. We'll do a few minutes. It's okay. We got you here at this point.

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I'll just drink water for now. Fighters drinking water. Yeah.

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Now, if it was fighters drinking whiskey, beer, you know. I'm happy to accommodate the whiskey.

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We've done that one. This podcast was later in the day or the evening.

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Would have been a little bit more fun. Well, you know, next time we do that,

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which we can do, I can facilitate whiskey, beer, whatever you want. Maybe some snacks.

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Actually, actual dinner will be nice. I want to drink it.

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Yeah, we'll do fighters doing dinner next time.

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Fighters eating dinner. Yeah, I would love that. It'd be a slow-paced podcast.

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Anyway, so thank you for having me. I'm a third-degree black belt under BGJ

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Revolution. My instructor is actually, he has the same name.

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Demetrius, yes, Aramos, even though he's Brazilian.

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Interestingly enough, this is some cool facts.

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He was born on the same year, born on the same month, born one day apart. Come on.

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Yes, I'm one day older, so I do pull seniorities. I like that.

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On my instructor. and he's a black belt under Rodrigo Medeiros who is a co-founder

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of the BGJ Revolution team under...

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Uh under caution gracie you know um six degree black belt so uh he's based out of san diego,

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and uh yeah very proud of the lineage i have my own

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academy uh named after myself dimitri christian academy santilli

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uh recently we partnered up with uh four degree black belt samuel cancherino

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uh we're teaching classes together both kids and adults and he's also of carlson

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gracie lineage and he used to train back in the day at when he first moved to

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the us before he moved to UAE and trained to the U.S.

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He trained out of Rodrigo's gym in San Diego for a little bit.

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So common lineage there. I'm very proud of that. And in addition to all this,

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what most have been busy in the last, I don't know, eight, nine years is running

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some tournaments in the region.

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And those are the COPA tournaments that you probably are aware.

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We run our regular style format tournament mostly under the name Copa Virginia

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when we do run them in Virginia we run in the past in other states as well and

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we do have a super fight event format.

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That is called Copa Elite and that's it yeah

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awesome and I know both of us

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have done Copa Elite before so we know

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those are run very well we've actually talked about them on the show before as

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well yeah the whole tournament experience to to give dimitri

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credit it's having been to

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many different tournaments i won't name

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names grappling industries who don't they run a little chaotic grappling industries

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i've i've i've been hard on them but they do get good they get good competitors

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so i'm gonna give them credit where credit's due but one thing i like about

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your tournament you also get good competitors but they're run very diligently

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and organized and on time,

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which makes a huge difference when you're coaching or when you're competing

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for that matter, or, you know, when you have families go there and it's kids,

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a lot of people doing it for the first time.

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So that I think makes a big difference.

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Yeah we we uh we harp on tournaments being on time a lot on the show actually we've uh.

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We've gone over the different formats and like yeah it's it's awesome having

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especially a local like focus tournament that's so like to the point on time

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like everything runs smoothly.

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Like that that makes a huge difference especially with

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growing the scene around here too so it's been great to have well

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uh thank you for that and this is something that we are very

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proud of and one of the reasons we started the

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tournament uh back in the day and the tournaments would not be possible without

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your support your support and other um academy owners and just practitioners

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support so we appreciate that but uh back in the day um you know before i started

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this there used to be another local tournament,

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interestingly enough, called Copa Nova.

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And I competed in Copa Nova, and a lot of my students used to compete,

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and that was run three, four times a year.

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It was run under a guy named Dan, and he used to own a Hells and Gracie Affiliate

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Academy, Fighter Works, and eventually he moved out of state,

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so he was not able to run the tournament anymore.

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And back then, we didn't have a very robust tournament circuit.

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So suddenly my students, and I'm sure your students, were not able to go to

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as many local tournaments as they wanted. So there was a need for that.

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So I decided to do some in-house tournaments, and I invited a couple of academies.

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You know, Scott was kind enough not only to bring his students,

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but actually refereeing a few of those in-house tournaments.

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And initially, they were free.

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And then we said, hey, why don't you, if you compete, why don't you donate five

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bucks? And then we all go for pizza afterwards.

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So then we started going for pizza. But then people start winning and they're

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like, well, it would be nice if I get a medal after I win.

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And we're like, okay, but then I have to charge a little bit more.

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So I think the first true reiteration of a tournament was Copa Chantilly that

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we had at my original academy back in the day.

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And then we said, well, let's move into another academy. and we had Copa Arlington which was at.

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Scott's older version of his Curing Academy and a lot of,

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black belts that were blue belts back in the day and

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purple belts competed back then and then we're like well that kind of like maxes

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out you can only run so many tournaments in an academy and you know if you want

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to actually make this grow you have to go and rent a place and do something.

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But so that's how Copa Virginia eventually was created.

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And, you know, I eventually actually bought some of the gear for Copa Nova and

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since they kind of, so it was like a transition and that's why then.

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The similarity name, but also traditionally speaking in Brazil,

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everything that did not run under the Federation used to run under the name Copa La Casa.

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You know, so there's a tradition there. But, yeah, so the impetus was having a local tournament.

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So when we got going, of course, other tournaments showed up in the scene.

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Two was making it run on time or smoothly run.

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And that's something that I made sure. I said, if I cannot run a tournament

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the way that I want to run it, I might as well go home and don't run a tournament.

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And I think we were the first who started implementing Smoothcom.

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And I think right about the same time, everybody started using Smoothcom as

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a software company because people forget that before Smoothcom, everything was manual.

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I remember tournaments with Excel spreadsheets. Pen and paper.

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Yeah, pen and paper. It was, that's one of the reasons was it was chaotic.

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And I mean, I remember when I was a white belt and blue belt and,

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you know, I was in the military training in Texas. I used to drive eight hours,

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wait for eight hours to compete, fight a couple of matches and then drive eight

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hours back. And that was the norm.

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Like, even if you went to other established tournaments back in the day,

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that was, that was kind of the norm.

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So I wanted to make sure that I had a tournament that kind of run on time.

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Now, everybody runs a smooth count, but still not everybody.

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It's not so smooth. It's not so smooth.

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It does require some skill.

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So, yeah, I think we are, we are proud of that.

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Of course, you, you mentioned this other tournament.

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I think, you know, you can always learn the good and the bad from other tournaments,

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and that is great. And I think, as you said, you know, Grappling Industries

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offers, you know, there's a lot of competitors there.

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People love it because there's so many people competing.

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It's just a different style of experience. I wanted to run a tournament that

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was closer to the IBJJF rule set that was won as a preparatory tournament for

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that scene or for that style of competition.

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And the other thing that I wanted was um.

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I wanted to have a better venue. Like I want, I want, like I have certain requirements

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when I go out and I get a venue.

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Like I want the venue to have a parking lot, you know, a parking garage,

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somewhere that you don't have to look for your, for your parking spot.

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I want to have, you know, to be climate control.

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I want to have locker rooms or bathrooms that are clean.

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I want the place to have bleacher so you can leave your stuff so you don't have

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to carry all those picnic chairs and tables and all that stuff.

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So at the end, from a production standpoint, my tournaments tend to be,

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I think, a little bit more expensive, less profit for me, but I'm more proud

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of them. They're better run.

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Yeah, I feel more comfortable that way. So, you know, sometimes I make this

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analogy, and I don't know if, Syker, you tell me what you think.

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You know i think copa virginia is like a restaurant like

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a a decent restaurant and then

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some of these other terms is more of a fast food place now there's nothing wrong

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with fast food i like fast food i go and get my fill sometimes but it's like

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it's busy yeah it's busy it's you know you pay what you know you get what you

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pay for it and everything else maybe you don't go to a restaurant every day.

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But when you do, it's more of a sit down experience to kind of take care of

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you. So that's the analogy I like to use.

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Nothing wrong with any of those, you know, types of establishments.

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It's just different. Depends what you want.

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I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. And I pick on grappling industries a lot

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but I think they're a victim of their own success. They're so popular.

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Absolutely. And they run a lot of events and people know the name and they want

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to go and so they get a ton of people to register. There was one time,

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this is the root of one of my gripes with them, and I messaged them about this.

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It was during the pandemic when the supply was withheld, but the demand was

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crazy high. Like all the jujitsu guys wanted to go.

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They ran a couple of tournaments and there were just so many people.

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Smooth comp matches were getting spit out for like midnight, 1 a.m.

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And I was like, guys, I'm not doing that.

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I told my students, I was like, I'm not staying until 2.30 in the morning to

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run this. And I messaged them and said, guys, are you really going to do this? I think they did.

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I'm like, make it two days. Figure it out. I understand you're going through

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a lot with the pandemic and all that.

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But that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. And they weren't doing refunds either.

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Again, get it. They're trying to run their business. They're trying to survive.

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But I think so many people go there. It gets so packed.

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That's part of what I just, I don't love the experience. But again,

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they get good competitors.

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People want to show up. So as a competitor, when you get to the match,

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good match. They referee well. They do their job. Got it.

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Yeah, to be fair, I think they've been trying to improve. But yeah, there have been some.

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I think the DMV tournaments are very popular and they get a lot of people.

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But also some of them run very late and they have been trying to improve.

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And as I said, yeah, different experience. You know, I have some friends there

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that work for them and everything, so they'll be trying their best.

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But also they do this round-robin format.

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We don't do that. We do, for the most part, we do a single elimination unless you're a kid.

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And then we do double elimination to ensure the other difference that we do in comparison to IBJJF.

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We run the third place matches So people get more matches that way,

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but we're not there until the, until tonight, you know, until the morning hours.

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And, um, so, uh, so yes, uh, I mean, I think, and also another thing that I,

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uh, I make sure it happens is that I, I get qualified referees.

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And I know that can be, uh, um, a hurtful subject, uh, for some people because

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you're never going to be happy with, uh, the refereeing.

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You go to a tournament long enough And you're going to have complaints For the refereeing But I try to.

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Get qualified people to referee They either experience black belts Or some very

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experienced Brown belts And I know for a fact that other tournaments Do not

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do that You can see anywhere between,

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From a blue belt to a black belt Running So it's not always the same So that's

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it and we're very happy our next event is on September 6th and it's on the same

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place that we'll be doing it for some time which is um,

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at the Nova Community College in Annandale at their gymnasium.

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I think it's a very nice venue.

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I might have an announcement pretty soon, like in a week, we're looking to add

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a tournament in November, a Cobra Virginia tournament just to finish off the year.

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Unfortunately, our venue is not available, so we might be doing it somewhere

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else very close, but an equally, if not a better venue that they want on Nova.

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I don't want to say anything since things are not finalized but I might have

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some news for you in a week or so and then by September I should be finalizing

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at least the first events for.

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2026 we'll break some news when the news is

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ready to break we'll help put it out there so people know

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that the venue change is an upgrade and

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we'll get everyone there to your point

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earlier you made a comment that I want to talk about which is

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that in our area years ago well in any area

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years ago like you said tournaments were limited you

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drive wherever if you were you were hungry for some action you'd

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have to go all over the place to do this in in

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the dc area now it seems like

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at least once a month you'll find some good action

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which is with if you're willing to drive about let's say two hours ish in any

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one direction you'll find something which is which is good for competitors it's

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an improvement what i like about what you're doing like you said starting local

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doing a good job i would say from from my looks i mean there are some new new

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folks in our area who are who are pretty,

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new tournament companies that are starting to pop up as well but you've been the most consistent.

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Local quality competition circuit that people in our area can participate in

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and count on which makes a big difference it's good for the whole scene,

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Absolutely. Yeah, thank you for that. We try to run three, four,

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a couple of Virginia tournaments a year.

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And at the end of the year, we do kind of award ceremony for the academies that

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had the most points in three different divisions, the kids division,

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the adults gi and adults no gi.

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So, yeah, we'd be trying to do that. But what you said is interesting because

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we used to have more tournaments in the area, like Fuji used to come in here,

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and Newbreed used to come in here, and now they're in the periphery.

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They run maybe now a different model, maybe they don't go as close to the urban

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area, maybe they go a little bit outside.

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Uh pbjf uh the same thing they run a tournament a

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little bit farther away now um but their you know

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their local tournaments are basically based in maryland

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for the most part when they come to virginia it's a little bit farther out so

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i that's another thing um that's another

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reason my production is a little bit more expensive because i

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try to be in the uh in the urban center

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as much As possible And closer to the academy So

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people don't have Do not have to drive As much So Yeah And another thing That

00:16:45.709 --> 00:16:51.169
we do Differently If I may From IBJJF When I do have my No Gi divisions Because

00:16:51.169 --> 00:16:54.209
people have asked me that Because other Other tournaments Used to be like this

00:16:54.209 --> 00:16:59.409
I don't go by belt For No Gi I go by experience level I do three levels only,

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Beginner Intermediate And advanced And basically Beginners for white belts Intermediates

00:17:04.589 --> 00:17:10.629
for blue belts And Or people who have like grappling experience And then um,

00:17:11.428 --> 00:17:15.588
And then advances for basically Purple Belt and over. And that is the continuation

00:17:15.588 --> 00:17:18.688
of other local tournaments that used to exist, but don't exist anymore.

00:17:18.828 --> 00:17:22.748
Once again, dropping the name for Copa Nova and US Grappling,

00:17:22.908 --> 00:17:24.508
you know, back in the day.

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And so, you know, some people ask me, when are you going to switch over?

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And I think I'm not, I was thinking about it, but I think I'm going to stay

00:17:35.308 --> 00:17:43.888
with the levels because it provides a forum a venue for a lot of people that maybe do not have,

00:17:44.828 --> 00:17:48.168
formal ranking in Jiu-Jitsu but they're great grapplers,

00:17:49.488 --> 00:17:52.408
because the other thing that I do is I run a

00:17:52.408 --> 00:17:55.688
cash price advanced Nogi absolute division

00:17:55.688 --> 00:18:02.068
for 500 bucks and I used to run more of them but I think that's the only one

00:18:02.068 --> 00:18:06.768
that was popular I mean I used to run one for the ladies and for the intermediate

00:18:06.768 --> 00:18:11.968
folks but it seems like the advanced one was the one and we we have uh we had

00:18:11.968 --> 00:18:15.508
featured a lot of our uh local stars we had some uh.

00:18:16.368 --> 00:18:24.028
Local base ufc uh fighters that competed there uh we had um i think uh you know

00:18:24.028 --> 00:18:29.348
gavin corbin the brothers there i think the younger one uh from back in the

00:18:29.348 --> 00:18:32.208
day so a lot of a lot of people that kind of like,

00:18:32.953 --> 00:18:39.793
are pretty well-known today, have competed, and sometimes are still competing in our tournament.

00:18:40.113 --> 00:18:46.993
So if you want to check out who's who, come and see our Advanced Nogi Absolute Division.

00:18:47.293 --> 00:18:52.053
And there's a cash price involved, which, yeah, it's not a lot of money,

00:18:52.073 --> 00:18:56.813
but if you use our early bird registration opportunity, which is only $50 for

00:18:56.813 --> 00:19:00.753
registration, you can make 10 times more, $500.

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Bucks and another thing when i used to

00:19:03.413 --> 00:19:06.453
come up when i was a blue belt and purple belt people offering us

00:19:06.453 --> 00:19:09.433
money are you serious you know it didn't it didn't exist

00:19:09.433 --> 00:19:13.573
and sometimes i'm surprised why not more

00:19:13.573 --> 00:19:16.533
people jumping in the opportunity uh and it's

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uh yeah i mean sometimes we get a very good

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turnout but i'm like why why not maybe

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because people are now hesitant because it has been

00:19:24.993 --> 00:19:28.093
attracting high level talented for yeah higher level

00:19:28.093 --> 00:19:30.873
people are more talented and you know we

00:19:30.873 --> 00:19:34.613
also post highlights or we post matches on on

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um on you know on different platforms from youtube

00:19:37.753 --> 00:19:40.893
to uh social media so maybe that you know

00:19:40.893 --> 00:19:43.893
that's you know stops people or makes them think twice but

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uh i would say uh on the contrary they should

00:19:46.633 --> 00:19:49.413
push themselves and challenge themselves and and

00:19:49.413 --> 00:19:52.853
jump and fight with uh what the area the

00:19:52.853 --> 00:19:55.773
area is best or what they have to offer and see where you where you

00:19:55.773 --> 00:19:58.613
stand i would love to have uh once again i would have loved

00:19:58.613 --> 00:20:01.473
to have these types of opportunities when i was coming up

00:20:01.473 --> 00:20:04.273
the ranks i think that's actually like a selling point too.

00:20:04.273 --> 00:20:07.553
For what you do the the advanced cash division because

00:20:07.553 --> 00:20:11.533
as you said maybe if there's been a dip in participation i would say you're

00:20:11.533 --> 00:20:15.853
attracting higher level talent too which i think is like you said it's what

00:20:15.853 --> 00:20:22.193
makes your the product unique which is that it's there's the consistency of

00:20:22.193 --> 00:20:26.893
the IBJF scoring system for even including that, right?

00:20:26.993 --> 00:20:29.473
Like in that division, albeit, as you said, it's not belt ranked,

00:20:29.513 --> 00:20:35.473
but nonetheless, it gives, let's say all of your customers, some awareness of what other and, and.

00:20:36.185 --> 00:20:40.165
I often call the IBGF like the de facto pro league for jiu-jitsu.

00:20:40.345 --> 00:20:43.685
So it gets people exposure to what to expect for that tournament.

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PBGF does it too. So there's a consistency with that.

00:20:46.445 --> 00:20:50.625
And I think all of your participants can benefit from.

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But then when there comes like the excitement, like the sizzle of the steak

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that you bring to that event is the advanced division, which like you said,

00:21:01.585 --> 00:21:06.225
there's been a ton of local guys who are now national or international stars who have gone through.

00:21:06.565 --> 00:21:10.425
Sam Kilmer, done that. He's won the division. Absolutely. Cameron Hurd.

00:21:10.705 --> 00:21:14.325
Cameron Hurd, who's, you know, he just won four back-to-back ADCC tournaments.

00:21:14.325 --> 00:21:16.245
He's in PGF. So many names.

00:21:16.705 --> 00:21:20.725
PGF. Yeah, a lot. And you'll get guys from all over the... Christian Barhard.

00:21:20.905 --> 00:21:25.965
Yeah, there's been so many people that, you know, now you see them.

00:21:26.025 --> 00:21:30.905
And I think, you know, IBJJF sometimes gets a lot of hate, but you don't understand.

00:21:30.925 --> 00:21:33.985
Before the IBJJF, there was chaos. There was multiple federations.

00:21:33.985 --> 00:21:36.285
Brazil, they're going to standardize everything.

00:21:36.625 --> 00:21:41.685
And that's the standard that most academies are using as far as bell ranking, the point system.

00:21:42.385 --> 00:21:47.085
As you said, it's the status quo. It's been established for some time now.

00:21:47.565 --> 00:21:50.665
And, you know, their tournaments kind of set the tone. You know,

00:21:50.745 --> 00:21:54.845
they're the big kahuna. You know, when you're playing football, NFL is the big kahuna.

00:21:55.025 --> 00:21:57.905
So same thing when you do jujitsu, either you like it or not,

00:21:58.025 --> 00:22:00.465
ABJJF is the big kahuna. It kind of sets the standard.

00:22:00.705 --> 00:22:06.965
So we're following their point system and their standard. and I think we're

00:22:06.965 --> 00:22:09.345
happy with that for the most part.

00:22:09.465 --> 00:22:14.405
So people are always asking us, what about doing an ADDC rule set or this or

00:22:14.405 --> 00:22:18.145
that, or take off advantages or no points or submission only?

00:22:19.189 --> 00:22:22.049
You know, there's a pros and cons to all of those, but, you know,

00:22:22.169 --> 00:22:26.409
I think doing with something that's been more established, it's more comfortable for everybody.

00:22:26.869 --> 00:22:29.509
Plus, if we do a submission only, which you're scrabbling, you should do back

00:22:29.509 --> 00:22:33.849
in the day, but some of the matches were like, you know, an hour and a half long. Then no time lose.

00:22:33.869 --> 00:22:36.509
I'm like, okay. Yeah, that was too much.

00:22:37.029 --> 00:22:41.669
Way too much. Okay, I'm like, okay. No, no, the consistency is good. Yeah.

00:22:41.889 --> 00:22:46.229
And people are always, I mean, I, better myself, I've complained about the IBJF,

00:22:46.369 --> 00:22:49.129
but I keep going back. and I think they do a good job.

00:22:49.349 --> 00:22:53.609
I think, like you said, people are always going to complain about the top thing

00:22:53.609 --> 00:22:56.829
and anything. People always complain about it and I understand the complaints.

00:22:57.009 --> 00:22:59.429
It usually comes down to, in my opinion, it's like referee decisions.

00:22:59.549 --> 00:23:02.429
We just get salty about that. That's just baked into it.

00:23:02.829 --> 00:23:05.329
The referees are humans. They're going to make mistakes.

00:23:05.889 --> 00:23:11.469
It's going to happen. People generally get heartburn from that but I think they're doing a good job.

00:23:11.709 --> 00:23:18.089
Yeah, they improved their I mean, I used to go the IBJF tournaments in the early 2000s.

00:23:18.229 --> 00:23:22.869
So I know how much they improved. I used to go to the pants when the bleachers

00:23:22.869 --> 00:23:28.129
were empty and you had people like Roger Gracie and Jacare compete and Braulio Estima.

00:23:28.489 --> 00:23:34.729
I mean, they were empty. I mean, I remember when nobody knew about acai and

00:23:34.729 --> 00:23:40.429
there was a big cart outside with some Brazilians selling acai.

00:23:40.589 --> 00:23:45.689
And now, you know, my wife goes and eats acai twice a week or something like that.

00:23:45.869 --> 00:23:50.609
You know, you don't understand that, you know, that culture that basically came

00:23:50.609 --> 00:23:54.649
from Rio that kind of like popularized it along with jiu-jitsu.

00:23:54.829 --> 00:23:59.189
And so, you know, as I said, the federation.

00:24:00.077 --> 00:24:03.397
Has done some great things in establishing. Can they do more?

00:24:03.697 --> 00:24:07.197
I mean, can they open up to jujitsu even more to the mainstream?

00:24:07.477 --> 00:24:12.397
Because I think some of the mainstream acceptance has happened with podcasts

00:24:12.397 --> 00:24:17.577
like yourselves, you know, with Joe Rogan or Joko and they popularize jujitsu even more.

00:24:17.717 --> 00:24:23.017
But, you know, why not see jujitsu on ESPN or, you know, NBC or,

00:24:23.277 --> 00:24:26.577
you know, and people are like, oh, is it exciting enough? Well,

00:24:26.657 --> 00:24:31.817
I will tell you it is because I see fishing on ESPN or golfing.

00:24:31.977 --> 00:24:36.017
I can assure you Jiu-Jitsu is more action than those two sports.

00:24:36.157 --> 00:24:36.937
Well, you're pitching the choir.

00:24:37.097 --> 00:24:39.837
I've seen people play cornhole. I've seen cornhole. Yeah, yeah.

00:24:40.237 --> 00:24:45.057
Hot dog contests. Yeah, exactly. I think there's more action. I agree.

00:24:45.377 --> 00:24:52.137
What do you think? Yeah, I mean, there's definitely way more boring sports on TV.

00:24:52.737 --> 00:24:55.477
Yeah, Jiu-Jitsu can be slow. With big sponsors. With big sponsors.

00:24:55.817 --> 00:24:59.217
Sponsors you got legs hot dogs huge companies sponsoring

00:24:59.217 --> 00:25:02.037
the most like absurd sport they

00:25:02.037 --> 00:25:05.117
had marble racing yes they had marble racing on espn during

00:25:05.117 --> 00:25:07.877
covid but like you could absolutely get that on

00:25:07.877 --> 00:25:10.757
tv so there's no reason so is there a lot more things that

00:25:10.757 --> 00:25:13.577
can be done to popularize that sport yeah our martial

00:25:13.577 --> 00:25:16.537
art absolutely and hopefully we're doing a

00:25:16.537 --> 00:25:20.097
we're doing a small part and uh as

00:25:20.097 --> 00:25:23.017
i was saying to uh some friends um the other day i

00:25:23.017 --> 00:25:26.057
said if if covert virginia stopped tomorrow which

00:25:26.057 --> 00:25:29.897
we're not planning we're looking to expand and move forward and

00:25:29.897 --> 00:25:32.937
you know hopefully with your support uh but

00:25:32.937 --> 00:25:37.617
if we if we stop tomorrow at least we have done our small part for the community

00:25:37.617 --> 00:25:43.457
to kind of enhance jujitsu and spread uh jujitsu in the area and uh make sure

00:25:43.457 --> 00:25:47.177
that people had a good experience uh when coming to our tournament we want you

00:25:47.177 --> 00:25:52.277
to expand yeah definitely want that i think it's good too like it's there's a lot of um.

00:25:53.110 --> 00:25:56.350
There's a lot of younger people in the sport. They're getting exposure to what

00:25:56.350 --> 00:26:02.750
the rule set and everything they need to compete in the bigger federation like you're talking about.

00:26:02.830 --> 00:26:06.970
And I think that makes a huge difference in getting people confident enough

00:26:06.970 --> 00:26:12.050
to enter in and compete at IBJJF and everything like that as well,

00:26:12.110 --> 00:26:16.610
especially now that they have that in Virginia. Now they have the Open here.

00:26:16.750 --> 00:26:20.750
So I think it's helping to bridge that gap and get people to,

00:26:20.750 --> 00:26:23.850
like, take that next step, which is great.

00:26:24.470 --> 00:26:27.690
Yeah, two things of that. You know, as I said, you know,

00:26:27.770 --> 00:26:30.890
the vision for the tournament is to almost be like a preparatory tournament

00:26:30.890 --> 00:26:36.710
for IBJJF to kind of introduce you because I get a lot of emails and they're

00:26:36.710 --> 00:26:40.930
like, are there hard rules on the weight divisions? Is there a hard cut?

00:26:41.230 --> 00:26:43.810
Or do you, how much is the leeway, you know?

00:26:44.250 --> 00:26:47.650
Because there's other tournaments out there that doesn't matter how much you weigh.

00:26:47.650 --> 00:26:51.970
It doesn't matter what weight division you registered They'll figure it out

00:26:51.970 --> 00:26:55.490
for you Well, that's not the case For a tournament, you know,

00:26:55.590 --> 00:26:59.610
you gotta make your weight Otherwise, what's the whole point Of having weight divisions?

00:26:59.990 --> 00:27:05.670
You're like, oh, what about a 2 pound I mean, then it's not a weight division That stops at.

00:27:06.610 --> 00:27:15.370
167.5, then it goes to 169.5 And yes, you Have to weigh in the day of And, you know,

00:27:16.670 --> 00:27:19.890
not the day before if you weigh in with your uniform,

00:27:20.670 --> 00:27:26.030
and so we do not promote you know a lot of like drastic weight cutting and we

00:27:26.030 --> 00:27:28.250
want to keep it healthy and all that stuff so,

00:27:29.030 --> 00:27:33.050
that's our philosophy and some people like it some people don't but you have

00:27:33.050 --> 00:27:39.810
to have standards yeah I mean and it helps the tournament run smoother because if you have to,

00:27:40.930 --> 00:27:44.070
change everybody's weight division because they did not make weight and they

00:27:44.070 --> 00:27:47.670
don't respect that, then you're running behind on schedule and you can,

00:27:48.456 --> 00:27:52.196
You don't have happy customers. You're a reasonable guy. The amount of times

00:27:52.196 --> 00:27:54.436
that we've communicated before a tournament, I'm like, hey, Dimitri,

00:27:54.536 --> 00:27:57.676
I need help with this person. You'll help people out. Yeah, of course.

00:27:57.916 --> 00:28:01.436
You know, absolutely. We give you plenty of chances to make weight,

00:28:01.436 --> 00:28:03.436
and, you know, we'll help you out.

00:28:03.536 --> 00:28:07.676
And, you know, I'll give you my sweatshirt so you can sweat even more and send

00:28:07.676 --> 00:28:10.876
you to the bathroom a couple times, which is clean.

00:28:11.316 --> 00:28:16.176
Speaking of, even the Logo OBJF tournament, man, those bathrooms were a challenge.

00:28:16.176 --> 00:28:19.696
So, you know, that's another pet beyond mine You know, another,

00:28:19.876 --> 00:28:24.956
you know, hygiene Like, I make sure both the warm-up mats And our regular mats

00:28:24.956 --> 00:28:28.136
Are mopped With pine sole,

00:28:28.916 --> 00:28:33.736
Like, the day before, the night before Like, I'm not sure that everybody does.

00:28:35.376 --> 00:28:39.396
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if no one does that Or the way that they do it

00:28:39.396 --> 00:28:41.456
Oh, we just spray something and it's okay Well,

00:28:42.536 --> 00:28:44.236
you know, it's not okay It's tough, right?

00:28:44.296 --> 00:28:46.936
And people are trying to make a buck.

00:28:47.356 --> 00:28:50.596
They gotta be No, it's standards, man. I think it's standards.

00:28:51.096 --> 00:28:54.576
It's standards. Some people just, when you walk in somebody's house,

00:28:55.016 --> 00:28:58.036
some people have a clean house. Some people do not have a clean house.

00:28:58.816 --> 00:29:01.696
You know, it's up to you. It's up to you.

00:29:01.816 --> 00:29:05.716
I've been in tournaments and seen the mats get rolled up right after the last

00:29:05.716 --> 00:29:08.016
match goes on. Like straight in the trucks.

00:29:08.296 --> 00:29:13.496
I put them straight on the trucks, but when I set them up, then we wash them

00:29:13.496 --> 00:29:15.896
because they're gonna get dirty, you know, when you, like...

00:29:15.896 --> 00:29:17.036
Move them around. Yeah, yeah.

00:29:17.256 --> 00:29:19.636
So, you're right. That's where you set it up. You have to clean it.

00:29:19.776 --> 00:29:21.116
And the warm-up mats, too.

00:29:21.556 --> 00:29:25.036
Let's not forget those. Let's not forget those. But, uh, speaking of expansion,

00:29:25.436 --> 00:29:27.656
uh, I want to make an announcement here on your podcast.

00:29:27.736 --> 00:29:29.856
We do have... We do offer...

00:29:30.596 --> 00:29:35.616
An apprentice program for people who want to run their own tournament.

00:29:36.096 --> 00:29:39.456
Even if you want to run a COPA tournament, which we can help you,

00:29:39.596 --> 00:29:44.076
like COPA in another state or even in Virginia, or you're going to run your

00:29:44.076 --> 00:29:46.916
own tournament, we do offer an apprentice program.

00:29:47.156 --> 00:29:49.196
So please reach out to us.

00:29:50.596 --> 00:29:55.696
We do have a website, copa-bjj.com, and our contact information is there.

00:29:56.136 --> 00:30:02.256
And you can work with us and, you know, You'll be an apprentice and,

00:30:02.256 --> 00:30:05.656
you know, after the first time, you'll get paid too for your help.

00:30:06.176 --> 00:30:11.336
But if you're looking to run a tournament in the future or even just be part

00:30:11.336 --> 00:30:13.976
of a tournament, just work in a tournament, we can help you out.

00:30:14.616 --> 00:30:19.456
Sometimes I do get folks that are blue belts and they're like, I want a referee.

00:30:19.616 --> 00:30:22.716
Well, as I said, I keep a high standard with the referees. So,

00:30:22.876 --> 00:30:27.656
you know, if you're not a brown belt or a black belt, you know,

00:30:27.756 --> 00:30:31.956
I'm sorry, can I help you until you get that rank?

00:30:31.956 --> 00:30:35.536
But if you are a brown belt and a black belt, and we have done this before,

00:30:35.816 --> 00:30:38.636
you can be an apprentice referee and we can help you out.

00:30:38.796 --> 00:30:44.416
And some of our former apprentices now are regular staff, and they were up to the standard.

00:30:44.656 --> 00:30:48.716
And we had some other people that just did not work out. So it is up to you,

00:30:48.776 --> 00:30:53.616
but we do offer opportunities for people that want to learn the other side of

00:30:53.616 --> 00:30:58.016
the business and contribute to jiu-jitsu somehow, you know.

00:30:58.476 --> 00:31:02.616
That's another great thing with the popularization of jiu-jitsu is like.

00:31:03.589 --> 00:31:07.329
The model is not just like, oh, I'm either a student or I'm either an instructor.

00:31:07.509 --> 00:31:10.169
Now you can do video for jiu-jitsu.

00:31:10.409 --> 00:31:13.109
You can sell gear about jiu-jitsu.

00:31:13.409 --> 00:31:17.589
There's, you know, this whole industry around jiu-jitsu has been created.

00:31:18.269 --> 00:31:22.409
And that is great. You know, jiu-jitsu has become more popular and more people

00:31:22.409 --> 00:31:24.189
are doing it. So we're happy to see that.

00:31:24.349 --> 00:31:29.489
That's it. Until we get our NBC, our ESPN contracts, we have to have this industry.

00:31:29.849 --> 00:31:32.709
The business has to develop naturally and people can monetize it.

00:31:32.709 --> 00:31:35.609
We talked about that a lot on the show too, is people trying to find careers

00:31:35.609 --> 00:31:37.049
in the space that they love.

00:31:37.449 --> 00:31:40.649
So I think that's a pretty cool thing you're doing. Yeah, thank you.

00:31:40.729 --> 00:31:46.729
Well, thank you. And once again, it would not be possible without your support.

00:31:47.669 --> 00:31:52.069
And I'm a big believer that, you know, I'm an academy owner,

00:31:52.569 --> 00:31:55.749
but I want to see more academy owners in the D.C. metro area.

00:31:56.309 --> 00:32:01.089
And even though I'm a tournament owner too, I think it's healthy that we have

00:32:01.089 --> 00:32:02.429
other tournaments in the area too.

00:32:02.709 --> 00:32:06.349
And I, you know, yeah, it would be nice from a business perspective if I had

00:32:06.349 --> 00:32:09.489
the monopoly, but I don't think it's healthy in the long term.

00:32:09.629 --> 00:32:14.349
And plus, when you have other people, it helps you keep your standards or it

00:32:14.349 --> 00:32:17.529
helps you check yourself a little bit.

00:32:17.609 --> 00:32:20.489
Because if you don't do a good job, people will not come to your place,

00:32:20.749 --> 00:32:22.669
either your academy or your tournament.

00:32:22.669 --> 00:32:29.529
So I am, once again, I am supportive of, you know, having more academies and

00:32:29.529 --> 00:32:33.969
more tournaments and for people to see and judge for themselves what is the

00:32:33.969 --> 00:32:36.329
best for them. It just grows jiu-jitsu overall.

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Yeah, healthy competition makes all of us better for sure. I know you have a...

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Time constraint here soon so what we'll do we'll put up all your

00:32:44.361 --> 00:32:47.201
information we'll promote it and like the show notes and all that especially what

00:32:47.201 --> 00:32:50.041
you said about the apprenticeship and all that we'll put that

00:32:50.041 --> 00:32:52.801
in there absolutely thank you thank you for that and i appreciate the

00:32:52.801 --> 00:32:55.581
opportunity guys i know it was difficult to

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have me here without uh you know having to

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uh drink coffee with you but uh

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well now i know you want whiskey yeah well you know

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now now i know not in the morning i'm a

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social drinker please do not get the uh wrong message

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out there you know and if you're serious competitive maybe

00:33:15.361 --> 00:33:18.801
you you know you just not be drinking alcohol but if you are when you're off

00:33:18.801 --> 00:33:22.441
the clock when you are a businessman and you know you're a family man and you

00:33:22.441 --> 00:33:25.961
want to wind down you know and watch a movie there's nothing wrong having a

00:33:25.961 --> 00:33:30.221
an adult beverage once in a while that's a reasonable way to look at it next

00:33:30.221 --> 00:33:33.801
time we'll have you on at the reasonable hour to have some whiskey.

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Maybe we'll watch some fights. We'll do some analysis.

00:33:36.541 --> 00:33:40.341
We'll do it in the evening. We can critique, and then maybe we'll see. Absolutely.

00:33:40.741 --> 00:33:44.101
It'd be nice to do some critique of some jujitsu matches.

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Maybe we do some Copa matches. We say, Copa, let's pick five or six cool matches,

00:33:48.661 --> 00:33:51.401
break it down, we'll have a little fun. I think that's a great idea.

00:33:51.821 --> 00:33:57.201
Maybe one, two drinks max. We already do three matches max. What about that?

00:33:57.481 --> 00:34:00.101
Well, I'll say, well, the match is the drink. You don't want me to start snoring

00:34:00.101 --> 00:34:01.021
in the middle of the podcast.

00:34:01.201 --> 00:34:04.141
One drink per match Hard rule

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So no I think that's a great idea I think maybe We

00:34:07.061 --> 00:34:10.201
can pick a few matches From some Copas Over

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time To begin with And critique them And

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go from there And Yeah I think

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it will be Yeah I think it's a great idea So looking forward to that guys We'll

00:34:19.521 --> 00:34:23.001
make it happen That sounds fun Okay Thanks again for the invite Yeah before

00:34:23.001 --> 00:34:28.941
we wrap Where What always Can people find you Find Copa Like let's Yeah absolutely

00:34:28.941 --> 00:34:35.061
So once again Our website for the Copa tournaments is copa-bjj.com for my academy.

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It is dc-bjj.com All the information is there.

00:34:40.741 --> 00:34:45.061
Please reach out to us with any questions that you have. We'd love to have you over.

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Excellent. Thank you guys again. That was Fighters Drinking Coffee.

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We will have all the information in the show notes of how to find everything

00:34:54.281 --> 00:34:59.421
related to Copa, the Copa tournaments, as well as Dimitri and his gym.

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We'll throw all that in the show notes so you guys have an easy way to

00:35:02.261 --> 00:35:05.381
get to that and as always like follow

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00:35:08.601 --> 00:35:11.561
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00:35:11.561 --> 00:35:15.861
we'll have updates as uh we'll be pushing out the updates as well from that

00:35:15.861 --> 00:35:19.661
uh dimitri talked about on the show here so i'll have uh when he announced it

00:35:19.661 --> 00:35:24.581
makes those announcements we'll throw those out on the instagram um and yep

00:35:24.581 --> 00:35:29.481
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