Aug. 12, 2025

(Ep 24) Balancing Life and Jiu Jitsu

(Ep 24) Balancing Life and Jiu Jitsu
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(Ep 24) Balancing Life and Jiu Jitsu
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Join hosts Mike and Scott on this episode of Fighters Drinking Coffee as they delve into the delicate balancing act between life and jujitsu. Inspired by a listener's question, they explore their unique dynamics off the mats, revealing how personal and professional lives intersect with their passion for martial arts.

Mike shares his journey of managing a family with work, competition, and coaching, while Scott discusses his perspective as a single gym owner and competitor, highlighting the differing challenges they face. Together, they discuss setting priorities, managing time effectively, and finding joy in the midst of busy schedules.

This episode offers a rich conversation on how to set a career path in jiu-jitsu while fulfilling personal and social obligations. Whether you’re an aspiring competitor or a martial arts enthusiast, discover strategies for building success in and out of the gym.

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00:03 - Balancing Life and Jujitsu

02:04 - Obligations Beyond the Mat

03:17 - Running a Successful Business

12:10 - The Value of Competition

12:56 - Marketing Yourself in Jujitsu

22:34 - Finding Personal Fulfillment

29:54 - The Family Factor

38:33 - Crafting a Flexible Schedule

49:27 - The Importance of Time Management

56:58 - Surrounding Yourself with Support

01:02:50 - Conclusion and Future Plans

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Welcome to Fighters Drinking Coffee.

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Today, we're going to talk about balancing life and jujitsu.

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This actually comes from a listener question.

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And so we both have slightly different dynamics outside of jujitsu.

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We both have other obligations, but we have different situations.

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So for example, I, Mike, have a, I have a wife, I have two kids.

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For now I have a job.

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But we both have something outside of jujitsu.

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And then we also have jujitsu. And we both have different obligations within jujitsu as well.

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Like the i am

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i'm a coach i'm a competitor and that's

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my obligation jiu-jitsu but you scott you're you're a gym owner you are a coach

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and you're also a competitor so like it's just different we have different ways

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that we approach this um you know and set them up a little bit with your yeah

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situation outside of jiu-jitsu my situation outside of jiu-jitsu is unlike mike

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I don't have a wife. I don't have any kids.

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That's different significantly. However, I own another business.

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Like you said, I have business obligations within jiu-jitsu,

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which I suppose is kind of like a, you could put that as like a header or whatever,

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a label, an all-encompassing label within which athlete and competitor also fall.

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Yeah, right. Well, I know when we, uh, when we've talked about,

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or when we, when we originally initially set up the podcast,

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um, your LLC is described as your child as well.

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So, you know, you have a site, there's, there is an obligation to that.

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That's like, you have to provide shareholder value. Yeah, exactly.

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But, and then, yeah, you're also, we also both have the podcast that we have

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to balance with everything else as well.

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So, I mean, you know, it's a lot of different things that you have,

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that we have going on in our lives, that we have to pay attention to.

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Alongside. Alongside. Quote, unquote, jujitsu. Yeah. The thing that,

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and, you know, you have to decide.

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Every day how you're going to

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fulfill your obligations within each of

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these different sectors so like you know we have to

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figure out like how are we going to we're both constantly you know looking at

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how to build success within the podcast how do we where are the success you

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know we have to look at the successful things and non-successful things like

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that's a that's a thing we have to do most days.

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We have, you know, I have obligations with the kids.

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I'm spending, you know, got to spend time with the wife, got to spend time with their family.

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I also have obligations at the gym with coaching. You know, I have to be there

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most mornings, sometimes twice a day, just depending.

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And so, and you only have 24 hours in a day.

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You got to sleep through some of that. We also have our strength

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and conditioning that we have to complete so like there's there's a

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lot of different balls you

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have to keep in the air um so let's i want to start on you and kind of figure

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out um how do you run both because you have to run you're you're running a successful

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business um in payment processing you're,

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running a gym that's successful you have lots of members you guys have been

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open for eight years yeah i was trying to think when that was what year 2017

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yeah so you've been you know their gym's been open for eight years you've moved

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from one location to another actually from a,

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cheaper part of town to a more expensive part of town too you know so like obviously

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there is a level of success that has to have been maintained to keep that going

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um and so how you know how What are the things that you, and competing,

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you know, you, we kind of on a, every month, every other month,

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you're coaching your competitors as well when they're competing.

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So walk us through it. You know, how do you, how do you do, how do you keep that going? Yeah.

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Okay. So I will address the question.

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One thing I want to say though, that I think we mutually align on this,

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Which is that there's, this is kind of the core of my answer too,

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which is that there's this career path within jujitsu,

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we'll call it that, that road that we both are pursuing together.

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You know, life, uh, not just a lifestyle, but also a career,

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a career means you want to monetize it and make a living off of it in this space.

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And, um, yeah, so you, you did a good job of laying out the,

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the different things that on a weekly basis, I have to spend time on to see the word career, um.

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Building off of that specific word, I think implies also that there

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are goals and there's like a progression that must uh take

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place within that um so

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okay so to answer your question like because i

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framed it that way intentionally which is because um

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i think using the career label and

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i'll start with the with the gym and the business there

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um but i i i find that there's an

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alignment with i'll start with that then i'll

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get to the other things i do i also have a personal life yeah there's also

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a personal there's that but but you know but this is i think this is part of

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the the core of the question is like how do you do these things and like

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how can you also you know how that fits together um i

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guess we should throw that in there the the inherent need as humans to have

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some form of socialization as well that's also pretty important that's also

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part of the balancing correct that's why i right that's the the core of the

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question yeah um yeah i mean talk about it.

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I do believe I have a balance, albeit because of where I'm beginning to take this.

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My balance is, I mean, like that side of the world, the other,

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call it other, personal life, you know, just other things.

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I prioritize the career. No surprise. I prioritize that and I prioritize the

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things that go into that now for what it's worth.

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Once upon a time prior to that the career side of things being a, a, a reality,

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but these, the, the, this is why I like the career choice and me,

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even me saying that I prioritize it is, was, it was a pretty easy decision for

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me to make because what I found before I, you know, monetize,

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I career ties, career ties,

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um, all of this stuff was, I was spending my free time.

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Like my, my, my balance was doing these things anyways,

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coaching, athletics, uh, um, helping, you know, once upon a time,

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like other, other gym owners with like just some of the, their,

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their obligations, you know, coaching and being an athlete helps those things,

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uh, which again is part of this.

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So it's sort of like, if I, if I build out that, that hierarchy of,

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of, um, jobs and the work that goes into it, um, and I'll start just again,

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like I said, I'll start with the.

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The other things that I do support that. So, and, you know, if I'm going to

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give like a practical answer too for folks who are listening to us,

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we just talked to Caleb like 30 minutes ago,

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maybe a little bit more than that, but like today about him going down this path as well.

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Your lens and your focus changes when, you know, having an academy and like

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having employees, having teammates and needing that business,

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needing that entity to grow and be successful, which like, no surprise,

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it's a business that runs on money.

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Um, and there are people who rely upon that. It's not just me.

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You know, there are other folks who, um, need that business to survive and thrive.

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So you, you do, you have to like change the way you look at things and you have

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to, you really, if, if, if I put it first,

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probably I definitely intentionally, but also like maybe unintentionally,

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maybe like a subconsciously, I know without the business being able to grow

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and thrive and continually make money and scale and ascend uh the other things.

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Will i think inherently become weaker as

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well so if that's

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the at the top of the ladder like everything else that i do which i think

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again it falls in line probably in that order too

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like business coaching and then myself as an athlete like i

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i i kind of have to treat it that way um my athletic goal going down i guess

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bottom of the totem hole bottom of the totem pole that helps it helps provide

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a community and a culture for the coaches which also pushes

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the business up so it like the better i do at my competitive athletic career

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in martial arts teaches me how to be a better student and coach which inherently

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allows me to deliver the product,

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of the business in a better, more intentional, more educated way,

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providing, you know, my,

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my, my coaching peers, their employees with, you know, if I'm wearing that label,

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they're my peers, they're also coaches.

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It gives them more perspective, some things they can perhaps gain from too, or I can gain from them.

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And then all of this, like this, these, these benefits, I suppose,

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that I'm, I'm, you know, elaborating on here, benefits the, the, the business as well.

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Like that community, we talked about the community and like what, how, you know,

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like I mentioned in the last podcast that um in

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my opinion those other things again like secondary

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and tertiary to what makes the business grow

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happens organically if for

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all intents and purposes basically what i'm saying is like the my i i prioritize

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i i can do all i believe i can do all these things and be successful in them

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um but the athletic my individual goals they're aligned like individually i

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want to be a good coach and i want to be a good business owner as well so it's

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It's not like I'm sacrificing one for the other, but, um.

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I say this because like when I mentioned careers and metrics and success,

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like I think like money is a pretty good indicator of success.

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Right? Like that's a free market shit. Like it's capitalism.

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Especially from a business standpoint. Well, a hundred percent.

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The more money people are willing to give you, it means that they support the

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product. There's value that they're receiving, right? Yeah.

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And the more people who you can provide that value to, to whatever the price

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point is, yeah, it's just like, it's an indicator because this,

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again, it's a free market.

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They don't have to be here they can leave whenever they want they especially how

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we talked about how many options there are in this

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area like there's a lot of they they don't have

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to travel very far to get to another gym so them you know which isn't the case

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everywhere but them choosing to come here rather than going you know what a

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mile down the road yeah and pick another and go to another place that means

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that they value the product that you're providing like yeah absolutely but you see what i'm

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right like to me because like there's getting a bunch of

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medals and being poor getting a bunch of medals and and

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not having any way to like like this this sport that

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we are in although it's changing there's not

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a lot of places you can go and get paid solely to be an athlete it's beginning

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to happen but well you know you know you have your cjis where guys can make

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like a million dollars now that's that's pretty damn good there's not there's

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like that's one one organization right know that I know of there.

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You can make that type of money.

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And winning isn't the brand anymore.

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Like, or well, you do not need to win to have a, to be a successful person in

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the realm of jujitsu. Right.

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You know, like you need to be able to sell what you've done.

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Um, you need to be able to push your wins and you'd be able to push your losses.

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You need to be able to market everything you're doing in a way that speaks to

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your customer, you know, like you can lose and still provide value from that, right?

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Like if you are good at selling yourself.

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With that, exactly. That's kind of the, yeah, we're on the same page there. Yeah.

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But now that's also because of the position I'm in where I,

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as you said, if I do those things right, I can continue to

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provide value within the business where people are coming in to to learn

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something and you know get to exercise and to learn

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a skill and all that um but you're

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right like but that that that's why i was saying like my my

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my within that world i haven't even gotten to my other parts of my life too

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but within that world those things are properly aligned so yeah it fits pretty

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well and obviously like we go into this we go to tournaments and stuff we're

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going in to win so that's like inherently i want to do that now that said um,

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because of all of the other obligations that compete for time and attention.

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Perhaps being solely a competitor and that being your stated only goal,

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those guys might be more successful in winning those medals,

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but they might not be making more money.

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They might not be. Like, dude, if you're going to do this for the long haul,

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you have to have a strategy like that.

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You'd be like, how am I going to live and also continue to compete and win if

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that's really what fuels you?

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It's part of what fuels me. That's not the only thing that fuels me.

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Obviously plus i wouldn't be doing these other things but but yeah like just

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my statement on like having the business like allows that exercise of extracting

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value from competitive experience.

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Disseminating it to students obviously to my peers to my to

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my business partners to whatever like anyone who can get value from

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my experience it i think it just it fits

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really well but at the same time and kind of maybe i'll bring

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it back to the core of the question like these are all things that like throughout the

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week I have to carve out time to um to

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work on the business's goals and that's like it's a

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business right so like anything else this is you know

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doing work for the business is not sitting around and thinking about my guard

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passing or my submissions it's I mean that's part

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of it right because that's the class experience and me being um

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aware enough to say all right like the

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things that I've learned while being in an IBGF

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tournament or whatever an ADCC tournament um how

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can i take those tactics those

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moves those strategies and like make that into like a cool product that other

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people can benefit from but doing work for

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the business is like managing staff looking at.

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Your pnl sheet studying you

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know money in money out and then having future goals

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planning for that like moving people around creating a business

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culture so yeah it's just my point is that that requires

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work and time in and of itself and like

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training you gotta like train to be good at that too like i i have

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books in here on business i have business mentors and stuff like that i have

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to like go and develop those skills as well that's another thing i have to do yeah i

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have to improve myself at that but you're right yeah but it's time

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that's time you're not like running a jiu-jitsu gym

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isn't just being on the mats 100

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you know i so it's there's time

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outside of that you can't just show up and coach there's

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other things you need to do which I don't think everyone always appreciates like

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I don't think everyone knows that or maybe at the end of this at the end of

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this podcast they will yeah but you're right I don't think that that's something

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that everybody who that people that aren't doing it right they don't because

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they don't see it those aren't the things they see that's the things they're

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reaping the benefits of right.

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Yeah yeah 100 so well anyways

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but this is just within that realm right so but

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but okay so but the point there is that like you have to have so like

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at the end of the day like i think like if if i

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could be maybe a little more like direct for people listening

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like you're gonna have to look at your calendar and really think about

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what you're spending your time on and how you structure your time across

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weeks months what did

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you just do i'm just trying to get my mic closer to my face it's

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pretty close to your face it's close enough now you're good um yeah

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you have to like you have to dial in your schedule man

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and like dude like i'm like everyone else like i have to

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have time to like not do this stuff so i can come back

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to it and do a better job you know like you have to like like training like

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your body has to recover your mind has to recover you have to like mentally

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emotionally recover from things and then go back in and do it again really well

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no i don't do a great job at like taking time away but you know i've learned

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how to do that most people don't

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i I think that's a pretty common thing in the realm of jiu-jitsu too.

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Like I think most guys that are involved in jiu-jitsu in one way or another

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tend to be pretty bad at not being involved for a period of time,

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right? It's a tough thing to walk away from. Yeah.

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And you know, it's like, it's sort of like, I call it like being in the game.

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Like I want to be in the game.

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But also like, I know that when

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I'm not in the game, sometimes when I come back, I do better in the game.

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So it's it is it's the exercise of knowing how to find balance now here's what

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i'll say about another cool thing about what i've what i like about my my career my my life is that i.

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All of this stuff that i i hope i'm not sounding like i'm complaining because

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i i chose to do this and i want to do this and like i said i like being in the

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game but like this quote-unquote game takes me to miami it takes me to las vegas

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it's taken me to italy taking me to spain it's It's taking me, like, I can go out and,

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like, I can work and balance and, like,

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modulate things where it's, like, it's still fun.

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It's, like, there are definitely days where it feels like I'm working.

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I'm fucking, most days it feels like I'm working.

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I don't mind that. But there are times when I'm like, I'm working,

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but it doesn't feel like work.

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Now, by the way, caveat that with my, and so I'll segue slightly over to my

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other, I have another business, that company.

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Definitely. I have to do the same thing, carve out time, plan,

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do all the business stuff. That's, that is work, but it's also fun work.

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Like I, I, people who don't, people who know me and I post this stuff,

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but like that, that I own a payment processing company with,

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with a couple other guys.

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And we primarily work

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with cannabis related businesses which takes

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me to events networking and stuff like in a

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in another community and culture that's also kind

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of fun too like the very dynamic of that is like

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it's it's different people like i like working with like in like interesting spaces

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like jujitsu guys are weirdos we talked about that earlier yeah we might

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do a podcast on that those guys tend to be weirdos too like i'm

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probably the at the i am the core weirdo who

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is trying to find myself i always i call other people weirdos like i'm

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not also the weirdo but like sweet like i like that

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so but my point is like over there like it's work for sure but

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there's a balance in that too where i'm like i just mentioned i go to miami

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do all these i go to cool places where i can take a break while i'm working

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while i'm going for a training camp or a tournament in miami and like get a

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little bit of like sun or whatever i can make that fun i can do that over there

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too well especially if it's like they're they're your kind of weirdos too right Yeah, they're great.

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If those guys are your kind of weirdos, you go and spend time,

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you're in these cool places where

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you can hang out and like do fun things around the work you're doing.

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Like I totally, because I'm, my career outside of jujitsu is brewing.

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Beers, similar type of, I mean, it's a very similar group of guys to the cannabis industry.

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And some of them really enjoy the cannabis industry. That they do.

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So, you know, like you have this group of people that knows how to unwind.

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And so, yeah, you get to do these cool things surrounding work.

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So, I totally get that. So, you know, something like, we didn't get to get into

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this with Caleb because he was in kind of a hurry, could have come up,

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but I like jokingly, and like, look, I like my business partners.

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I like the people I work with in all of my companies.

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They're fun, they're, like, I jokingly say my ethos is like,

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I want to go have fun and get paid to do it.

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Oh, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? And like, that's, that is what I'm trying to do.

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My, in my free time for those listening, I want to race cars.

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I have been going to race cars.

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I've been going to car racing classes and shit.

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That's my next fucking big thing, dude. Like one day I want to own a race car.

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There, I said it. Next business.

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For real. Yeah. One day, I don't know how to do it yet, but like starts with, I'm in the intro class.

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I'm in the intro classes for like racing Porsches and like fucking cool shit.

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Like, dude, it's awesome.

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Yeah. One day I'll figure out how to make money doing that. And like,

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I can't wait for that. But, but okay. But so like I said, like, this is my ethos.

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Caleb was talking about how he's like, let's have fun. Like,

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it's like, I like having fun. I'm like, yeah, I get that. Yeah, I get it.

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Um, but yeah, dude. But at the same time, like, you know, you introduce money

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and like goals and shit like that.

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It can, you know, like I, I, I just, I want to do things that,

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um, have goals around them. I like that shit.

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And then sometimes that can be stressful in that because, you know,

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it takes a thing that's fun and then it adds a like, an intensity to it.

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You're like, no, I have to go do this thing now. Cause I said I was going to do it. I want to do it.

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Um, can you do that and also make it fun for sure? Do I always know how to make it fun? No, I don't.

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Um, but if I take a step back, like anytime I feel like I'm getting like just

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ground to a pulp, which happens, uh, it helps for me to remember that, you know?

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So like, that's why I don't mind being in the game, but all right.

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So like balance, like doing that primo payments which is

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the payments company district martial arts um the.

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Podcast which is fun yeah which is fun right it's

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fun man and like but this is another career path yeah right it's

00:22:00.115 --> 00:22:02.895
it's another thing um but again it's fun it's fueled by.

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Fun like dude this stuff is like we're busy like stuff.

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Comes up yeah maybe there are days when we're just like fried and like dude i don't know if

00:22:08.375 --> 00:22:11.195
i can talk for like four hours dude when we recorded it it seems after

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that workout that he tried to destroy my life with we had

00:22:13.895 --> 00:22:17.275
me do the aerosol bike that shit sucked man but

00:22:17.275 --> 00:22:20.075
i was like i was there and i was like talking i had like a 20 minute

00:22:20.075 --> 00:22:22.895
break before you came over that i was like dude i don't know if i can do this podcast i

00:22:22.895 --> 00:22:26.255
don't know i don't know if i have it i mean i did but you know

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like it's like you just you're again i'm a human being

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uh but then but then again like i said this is

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an easy thing for me to say i'm gonna do it like this is awesome it's fun.

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So i want to do that um but now

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all that said too i realized i might be in a fairly unique position

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because of that and because of what i said earlier i don't

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have a wife and two kids um i can prioritize these

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things um so much my my schedule is

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built around this stuff um and one

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day when there's a wife and kids she'll understand that

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like that's that's what's up now that said um i

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like i mentioned earlier i do have a i have a personal life i but

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i've looked at my like i i have it kind of dialed in like i know

00:23:06.535 --> 00:23:09.615
my nights when i'm available i know my my weekends when i'm available i

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know my weekends when i'm not available because we plan this stuff out i

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have tons of weekends that aren't available because of everything i've

00:23:16.355 --> 00:23:21.095
said yeah any any other thing travel for work but you plan things you want to

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do i can look at the counter and be like yo dude i'm gonna be smoked at the

00:23:23.835 --> 00:23:27.675
end of fill in the blank month yeah i mean heck we were literally doing that

00:23:27.675 --> 00:23:31.655
right before we said yeah start recording this we're looking at like we look

00:23:31.655 --> 00:23:36.035
at what things we have coming up and like all right well we need to knock out.

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Five episodes in the next like three weeks or whatever. Yeah,

00:23:39.620 --> 00:23:42.600
bro. Exactly. So, but, but fuck it, man. Like, cool. Let's do it.

00:23:42.600 --> 00:23:44.020
It's fun. It is. It's fun.

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And I, and I can also look ahead and say, dude, like again, I've,

00:23:48.780 --> 00:23:52.480
I've cultivated like my, I'm like in Arlington and I'm not running around.

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I just, just do my things.

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I've got a pretty good balance going where I'm like, I'm not too smoked.

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Like I'm pushing it to the fucking limit for sure, but I can do these things.

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I'm like, I can get my rest.

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I can get my, my free time to go do things, go on dates, do whatever I want to do.

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Hang out, catch my breath, and then keep going.

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It took a while for me to figure that out, but I can do that.

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By the way, I'm not talking about the like million hours that I'm on the mat

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training, physically difficult training, plus strength and conditioning.

00:24:21.800 --> 00:24:24.640
But that's kind of like maybe a throwback to the first thing that we talked

00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:28.900
about or what I talked about when I was describing gym, coaching,

00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:30.920
and athletics in alignment.

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Like I want an athletic career in my life. So dude, a significant amount of

00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.460
my time is built around that.

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Um, it's probably actually without a doubt, it's,

00:24:41.220 --> 00:24:46.360
I, I have cultivated my schedule around when I'm not getting my ass destroyed

00:24:46.360 --> 00:24:50.220
in training and everything else is, is,

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you know, I put it in strategic points, like days and times where I can like

00:24:55.080 --> 00:24:57.580
do that, get the morning workout done,

00:24:58.540 --> 00:25:04.380
eat, hydrate, shower, think for a second, bang, start working on whatever business

00:25:04.380 --> 00:25:07.020
objective that I have, get this thing done, hang out this deliverable.

00:25:07.040 --> 00:25:09.940
Answer to people answer to business partners take a phone call schedule

00:25:09.940 --> 00:25:12.620
some time for a sales meeting whatever okay did all that in

00:25:12.620 --> 00:25:15.400
these blocks oh i have another training session in the evening or afternoon or whatever

00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:21.700
boom go do that come back eat handle more shit emails text this that um go to

00:25:21.700 --> 00:25:27.360
bed i did i prioritize sleep oh yeah by the way you have to uh by the way i

00:25:27.360 --> 00:25:31.160
i i make that like that's that's a big one i can't do all of this shit that

00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.540
i'm talking about without like that um,

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So my way of saying like when I'm here, like I've, I've got myself pretty down

00:25:38.065 --> 00:25:41.725
and like I have, I have free time. I have like time to balance my life for sure.

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Now on that, I'm pretty willing to like let some of that free time slip.

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If something comes up for one of the things that I've talked about,

00:25:50.325 --> 00:25:52.125
I'm like, I, that just, that's where I'm at.

00:25:52.245 --> 00:25:56.045
So I'm at in life. I can do that. And I want to, um, alternatively,

00:25:56.225 --> 00:25:58.405
if there's a free time thing, I've booked myself for like, I,

00:25:58.505 --> 00:25:59.825
and I'm like, this is what I'm doing.

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That's what I'm doing too. So I have that discretion to say,

00:26:04.065 --> 00:26:06.925
no, I'm not going to do these things for the next couple of hours.

00:26:07.505 --> 00:26:09.965
I'm talking to this lady or whatever.

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I'm watching a fucking movie. I'm not going to do emails or texts or whatever. I can do that.

00:26:16.845 --> 00:26:22.085
But also, like I said, I give myself that room to decide what's right now with

00:26:22.085 --> 00:26:25.765
what I'm working on, objectives wise, what's the best use of my time?

00:26:26.145 --> 00:26:28.405
And if I feel like I can get something done, I'll fucking do it.

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But if I feel like I can't because I'm like, no, man, I need to like, I need to do it.

00:26:32.185 --> 00:26:38.225
I come back from training most weeknights and the amount of time I have between

00:26:38.225 --> 00:26:41.325
I'm just getting cleaned up and I'm stepping out of the shower.

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Like I consider that like the end of training. Like I'm not like I'm clean now

00:26:45.245 --> 00:26:49.445
eating, stopping for a second and like maybe thrown on a TV show or reading

00:26:49.445 --> 00:26:50.885
a book before I then go to bed.

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It's fucking tiny, but it works for me. I don't give a shit. It's fine.

00:26:56.125 --> 00:26:58.825
But so my point is that there's not a lot. Like I, like I said,

00:26:59.045 --> 00:27:03.125
the, the skill for anyone listening who like is, is relatively similar position,

00:27:03.645 --> 00:27:05.005
look at your calendar, man.

00:27:05.165 --> 00:27:08.965
And like map that shit out and like have a plan. Like there's just not a lot of time to waste.

00:27:09.205 --> 00:27:16.465
When you have to prioritize, prioritize to like what, what free time matters the most to you.

00:27:16.565 --> 00:27:20.145
So you're getting like the best free, you know, like, so let's,

00:27:20.225 --> 00:27:23.365
let's throw that over to you, dad and husband. Yeah.

00:27:23.765 --> 00:27:27.525
Like, I, I mean, I, I, I mean, dude, I'm, I'm happy. I could keep talking.

00:27:27.785 --> 00:27:29.785
I have to think about this shit all the time, but I want to hear your thoughts,

00:27:29.925 --> 00:27:33.225
man. Like you've, you've, you're tossing over you like another, another.

00:27:34.412 --> 00:27:38.712
Significant lifestyle, um, world, worldview. I don't know.

00:27:39.612 --> 00:27:43.212
Archetype, archetype that like, I think a lot of people listening will resonate

00:27:43.212 --> 00:27:45.132
with, man. I'm, I'm a weirdo dude.

00:27:45.272 --> 00:27:48.392
Like my shit is kind of like unique. Maybe some folks out there listening to

00:27:48.392 --> 00:27:49.292
it will resonate with that.

00:27:49.572 --> 00:27:54.532
Uh, I think there's definitely, there's definitely people that fit into that realm as well.

00:27:54.672 --> 00:28:02.212
But like, maybe not all of them are business owners and then also own their gym.

00:28:02.412 --> 00:28:05.132
You know, like not all of them, some of them, but not everybody,

00:28:05.412 --> 00:28:09.472
you know, like it might be a smaller subset, but, um.

00:28:10.252 --> 00:28:16.752
But yeah, I mean, so, you know, I have, as of right now, maybe by the time this

00:28:16.752 --> 00:28:19.172
comes out, might not be 100% accurate.

00:28:19.312 --> 00:28:21.892
Well, no, I'll still, I'll still have a job at the time. CBD.

00:28:22.392 --> 00:28:26.312
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I will, I will have just stepped

00:28:26.312 --> 00:28:30.012
down from being the guy in charge of brewery um

00:28:30.012 --> 00:28:33.212
and will have be training my replacement

00:28:33.212 --> 00:28:36.572
so when this releases i will still have a job uh

00:28:36.572 --> 00:28:44.732
but so like for me a big thing in this is kind of what has driven a lot of the

00:28:44.732 --> 00:28:51.692
lifestyle changes that i'm making to set myself up in a position where i am

00:28:51.692 --> 00:28:54.432
able to balance everything I want to balance.

00:28:54.932 --> 00:28:59.052
So I tend to chase things I'm passionate about.

00:28:59.532 --> 00:29:06.532
And a big part of that is I get really into every single thing I do.

00:29:06.552 --> 00:29:11.232
And I only really want to do things that I'm really into because I,

00:29:11.512 --> 00:29:16.832
to a fault, will over commit myself into everything I do.

00:29:17.312 --> 00:29:21.052
And sometimes that's strenuous on other people.

00:29:21.572 --> 00:29:28.412
Sometimes that's gets me into positions where I go through periods of burnout.

00:29:29.072 --> 00:29:32.312
Everyone has periods of burnout. You were just touching on that.

00:29:32.572 --> 00:29:41.472
And so I've reached another kind of tipping point and I've had this happen before, like where you,

00:29:41.992 --> 00:29:48.612
I got into brewing, become very passionate about it, become very about the things

00:29:48.612 --> 00:29:52.592
I'm doing for the reasons I'm doing them, me personally, why I'm doing them.

00:29:54.072 --> 00:29:58.632
And initially, that was a pathway to support.

00:29:59.817 --> 00:30:04.877
The family thing. Right. So like I was full-time jujitsu running,

00:30:05.057 --> 00:30:08.817
running a gym, not owning a gym, just running it, managing the gym.

00:30:08.977 --> 00:30:11.017
Um, I guess it's probably a better way to put it.

00:30:11.337 --> 00:30:15.917
Uh, but managing a gym, competing full-time coach, full-time.

00:30:16.177 --> 00:30:18.037
So like full-time athlete basically.

00:30:18.977 --> 00:30:22.837
Uh, but that's not always the most stable thing.

00:30:23.337 --> 00:30:27.797
And especially at the time that I was doing it, like back 20 teens,

00:30:27.937 --> 00:30:31.857
early 20 teens, the, it was super niche still.

00:30:32.157 --> 00:30:34.417
Like this was not a mainstream thing.

00:30:36.637 --> 00:30:40.657
Any professional jujitsu organization that's popping up was basically failing,

00:30:41.117 --> 00:30:42.857
you know, popping up, failing, popping up, failing.

00:30:43.157 --> 00:30:45.657
Metamorist. Yeah, shout out to Metamorist. That was a fun one.

00:30:45.917 --> 00:30:48.937
But yeah, I've got some painful stories with them. Yeah, no problem.

00:30:49.197 --> 00:30:50.537
This whole, you know, like. Come over it.

00:30:50.877 --> 00:30:54.917
Where jujitsu is now is so vastly different from what it was then.

00:30:54.977 --> 00:30:55.837
And it's not even that long.

00:30:56.757 --> 00:31:02.637
Like that was a pretty, it was a very young sport in the area at the time compared to what it is now.

00:31:03.237 --> 00:31:09.357
Um, and so I needed stability. I get into brewing and I'm all in on brewing

00:31:09.357 --> 00:31:12.377
and I have to make a choice at that time.

00:31:12.397 --> 00:31:15.237
And this is all just kind of background leading to what's going on now.

00:31:15.497 --> 00:31:19.157
And so I had to make a choice. You know, I have, I have to decide on what's

00:31:19.157 --> 00:31:23.517
going to be the best thing for the thing I wanted, you know,

00:31:23.597 --> 00:31:24.817
having a family and all that.

00:31:24.817 --> 00:31:27.557
And so i had to pick the thing that was gonna be the most

00:31:27.557 --> 00:31:30.937
stable set us up the best for the future and

00:31:30.937 --> 00:31:33.637
so get into brewing have so that i can

00:31:33.637 --> 00:31:38.977
support having a family it's still i'm still doing jujitsu at the time but you

00:31:38.977 --> 00:31:43.597
know things kind of change chasing one career path you kind of have to give

00:31:43.597 --> 00:31:47.677
up on it you have to not give up but you have to put one aside everyone's you

00:31:47.677 --> 00:31:51.497
know because you have to prioritize like like you're saying like i need to be

00:31:51.497 --> 00:31:52.577
able to spend time with my wife.

00:31:52.817 --> 00:31:56.657
I need to be able to spend time with, you got to be able to do things outside

00:31:56.657 --> 00:32:00.697
of work. You have to be able to go after people,

00:32:01.320 --> 00:32:07.040
the career goals that you have, which I've now achieved over the past, what, nine, 10 years.

00:32:08.540 --> 00:32:13.360
And so the prioritization was a big thing.

00:32:13.500 --> 00:32:18.800
And so like, obviously, well, maybe not for everybody. Some people don't necessarily do it this way.

00:32:19.340 --> 00:32:24.200
But for me, you know, I'm going to, I had to put family at the top,

00:32:24.220 --> 00:32:28.840
you know, and sometimes making money can get in the way of that.

00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:32.000
You have to do things that but you're doing it for them

00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:35.080
you know i gotta you have to have money to support

00:32:35.080 --> 00:32:37.840
the family exactly you might give up a little bit of time with them because

00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:41.560
you need to make money but then as you're kind of going through those things

00:32:41.560 --> 00:32:49.320
eventually you find the things you might find new passions in life and um for

00:32:49.320 --> 00:32:55.380
me i've you know i found jiu-jitsu again and i think the especially now,

00:32:55.560 --> 00:32:59.720
like the relationship that I have with jujitsu, like it became fun again.

00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:03.580
And that might've part of that might've just been what was kind of going on

00:33:03.580 --> 00:33:08.560
at the time, uh, where the gym was at the time, like where it was,

00:33:09.220 --> 00:33:12.840
how the gym was, you know, the situations at the gym, um.

00:33:13.780 --> 00:33:17.380
A bunch of other factors were involved in kind of taking a step back to like

00:33:17.380 --> 00:33:21.500
not getting the fights you need, like things that were making it less stable at the time.

00:33:22.180 --> 00:33:29.940
Um, but, Ultimately, I find things that I'm super passionate about,

00:33:30.040 --> 00:33:34.060
get super involved in them, and then I have to decide which thing I'm going to pursue.

00:33:34.320 --> 00:33:41.700
Because otherwise, I will run myself so ragged, and then I'm no good to anybody. I'm not...

00:33:42.686 --> 00:33:48.266
I can't do anything to capacity because I'm so spread thin and I burn myself out.

00:33:50.286 --> 00:33:53.006
And that's not fair to any of the other people involved. You know,

00:33:53.006 --> 00:33:55.106
it's not fair to wife, not fair to the kids.

00:33:55.326 --> 00:34:01.646
Like when, if, so for example, right now, a normal day for me is wake up at 4am.

00:34:02.086 --> 00:34:09.266
I go, go train, coach, do my strength and conditioning, work all day, come home.

00:34:09.546 --> 00:34:12.286
And by the time I'm at home, it's like dinner time.

00:34:12.886 --> 00:34:15.106
Spend a little bit of time with the kids and they go to bed.

00:34:15.806 --> 00:34:19.146
I'll work on the podcast and then I go to bed.

00:34:19.306 --> 00:34:23.726
And so like, those are long ass days of pretty much all work,

00:34:23.826 --> 00:34:26.406
right? With the exception of spending time with the family.

00:34:27.346 --> 00:34:35.046
But such a small part of my day is spent doing the thing that I want to be the number one thing,

00:34:35.366 --> 00:34:41.766
which is spending time with the family that it's in the largest portion of my

00:34:41.766 --> 00:34:47.726
a day is spent doing something that ultimately does not,

00:34:47.966 --> 00:34:50.726
with the exception of providing us with fun, like money,

00:34:51.106 --> 00:34:53.786
does not further my goals at all.

00:34:54.086 --> 00:34:57.906
And so I had to make a decision, which was.

00:34:58.886 --> 00:35:04.506
All right, I can keep doing this job that provides money,

00:35:04.506 --> 00:35:09.226
but does not provide fulfillment because it does not move me towards a goal

00:35:09.226 --> 00:35:14.806
or I can give up on, you know, basically I have four things going.

00:35:15.306 --> 00:35:19.126
I really should only have three things going, which things are going to stick

00:35:19.126 --> 00:35:23.106
around. And obviously I'm keeping the family, not getting rid of them.

00:35:23.666 --> 00:35:30.646
Um, and I also like things that are challenging. You know, it's gonna be a lot harder thing to do.

00:35:31.426 --> 00:35:36.086
Chase jujitsu again, jujitsu in the podcast. So that's what I ended up choosing.

00:35:37.114 --> 00:35:40.614
And so, because I know that if I try to do all these things,

00:35:40.874 --> 00:35:44.574
I'll reach a point of burnout and then I'll probably have to get rid of most things.

00:35:44.714 --> 00:35:47.934
Well, I would also add, dude, like high level, like strategically for your life, right?

00:35:48.094 --> 00:35:52.774
You do those challenging things well, it'll give you the flexibility and time

00:35:52.774 --> 00:35:54.894
to do, number one, family.

00:35:55.074 --> 00:35:57.574
Exactly. As much as you want.

00:35:57.974 --> 00:36:03.274
Yeah. So like these things that if I get them, it might suck for a little bit.

00:36:03.434 --> 00:36:05.514
It's going to take some work. It's going to take a lot of work,

00:36:05.554 --> 00:36:07.254
but ultimately- You're working already.

00:36:07.654 --> 00:36:10.554
Like, you work fucking hard. So it's like, okay, work hard on this shit that's

00:36:10.554 --> 00:36:12.654
stealing my life from me, or I can work for these things that,

00:36:12.674 --> 00:36:15.234
like, get me to where I want to go. Exactly. I mean, like.

00:36:15.594 --> 00:36:17.734
You don't have to explain that. Of all the things that I do,

00:36:18.414 --> 00:36:21.594
working hard is what I do the best. Correct. And so, like, I've always worked,

00:36:21.674 --> 00:36:23.334
you know, it's always been a thing that I've done.

00:36:23.554 --> 00:36:25.854
Like, I've always worked hard. I've worked hard jobs.

00:36:26.114 --> 00:36:30.114
Get up at 4 fucking a.m. Get up at 4 a.m. We were just talking about how I used to get up at 2 a.m.

00:36:30.154 --> 00:36:34.274
To go to, to be on crab boat. Go kill some crabs. Yeah. We weren't killing them. We're just kidding.

00:36:37.794 --> 00:36:41.734
I like hard things. On the last episode, we talked about how I worked for an

00:36:41.734 --> 00:36:46.354
inflatable party, whatever, carnival company. Yeah, I was confused by that.

00:36:46.514 --> 00:36:50.274
I was like, is that the inflatable arm guys? No, like the inflatable slides.

00:36:50.334 --> 00:36:53.934
Bouncy houses and shit. Yeah, bounce houses. I was a carny for a couple months. Awesome.

00:36:55.254 --> 00:37:02.134
These are all the hard things that help me reach the goals I want to do. And in this case,

00:37:04.234 --> 00:37:08.054
another hard part about having a family in jiu-jitsu is a lot of the stuff for

00:37:08.054 --> 00:37:15.274
jiu-jitsu is at weird hours when other people aren't working because that's

00:37:15.274 --> 00:37:16.514
when the clientele is available.

00:37:17.234 --> 00:37:20.754
And a lot of things for competitors is on the weekends.

00:37:21.954 --> 00:37:29.994
So if I wanted to chase jiu-jitsu again, that meant having to give up all the hours because.

00:37:30.650 --> 00:37:34.070
When you could be spending time with your kids so what

00:37:34.070 --> 00:37:36.890
is the best way to to solve this if that's what

00:37:36.890 --> 00:37:39.730
i want to do be home when everyone else is

00:37:39.730 --> 00:37:43.330
at work you know um because

00:37:43.330 --> 00:37:46.890
then i still get the time with the family especially

00:37:46.890 --> 00:37:49.710
now my kids are young they're not in school yet they're not like full-time in

00:37:49.710 --> 00:37:53.030
school yet so they're home most

00:37:53.030 --> 00:37:55.850
of the day like i can spend time with them during the

00:37:55.850 --> 00:37:59.570
day and it also allows my

00:37:59.570 --> 00:38:03.650
wife to do things she wants to do without having being

00:38:03.650 --> 00:38:06.790
burdened with kids not the right way to put that but well it

00:38:06.790 --> 00:38:09.570
gives her the flexibility like she doesn't have to have the kids in

00:38:09.570 --> 00:38:12.670
tow to do the things she wants to do like she can she can

00:38:12.670 --> 00:38:15.970
have she can go to the gym she can

00:38:15.970 --> 00:38:20.270
get her workouts in and not have to bring kids with her or she can go grocery

00:38:20.270 --> 00:38:24.670
shopping not have to have the kids with her you know like those are things that

00:38:24.670 --> 00:38:30.790
make her life better too right like if i can wake up because i'm still gonna

00:38:30.790 --> 00:38:32.790
wake up at 4 a.m and go train because that's.

00:38:33.330 --> 00:38:36.850
What i'm what i do like it's what i'm being paid

00:38:36.850 --> 00:38:40.490
to do but like now i can wake up i can go train coach

00:38:40.490 --> 00:38:43.510
at 5 30 come home get the

00:38:43.510 --> 00:38:49.270
kids to school she can go do her thing then i can go do my my strength and conditioning

00:38:49.270 --> 00:38:56.570
pick up my son from school then we can spend time we have plenty of time during

00:38:56.570 --> 00:39:01.970
the day to spend together then I can even still go train or coach at night and.

00:39:02.630 --> 00:39:07.090
Now instead of having spent most of my day away I've now spent most of my day

00:39:07.090 --> 00:39:13.590
with my family and so that sets up a way better balance for me like way better

00:39:13.590 --> 00:39:16.950
life balance to where now I'm getting to do the things I want to do.

00:39:18.020 --> 00:39:22.540
And I'm still getting to train. I'm still getting to coach, which is ultimately

00:39:22.540 --> 00:39:24.680
that's the income portion of it.

00:39:24.780 --> 00:39:29.020
Still getting to compete, which is the brand building portion of it.

00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:33.960
Do the podcast, have time to do this and make it more flexible to where we're

00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:38.200
not having to cram in things on specific days.

00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.960
Like we can, with whatever flexibility, we're

00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.420
able to schedule ourselves so that we're now able to fit

00:39:44.420 --> 00:39:47.640
this in in ways that isn't as um

00:39:47.640 --> 00:39:50.840
tight tight yeah it's not as stressful you

00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.080
can get more and better content yeah we'll be able to you know now we're gonna

00:39:54.080 --> 00:39:58.240
be able to provide more content better content different types of content that

00:39:58.240 --> 00:40:05.340
we've been talking about so um things that will increase the viability of this

00:40:05.340 --> 00:40:10.820
business while also like the career path to jiu-jitsu becomes more viable.

00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.980
And it gives me time to grind for things like, you know,

00:40:16.620 --> 00:40:19.640
things that allow me to do jiu-jitsu full-time,

00:40:20.660 --> 00:40:22.860
like picking up a sponsor, right?

00:40:22.980 --> 00:40:25.440
Like things that provide value to them.

00:40:25.620 --> 00:40:30.120
I recently got picked up by Cruise Combat, right?

00:40:30.940 --> 00:40:37.100
And they're having things like that allows me to put time and energy into jiu-jitsu

00:40:37.100 --> 00:40:40.360
into the podcast because I have...

00:40:41.157 --> 00:40:49.437
Avenues of support, you know, them, the gym being able to provide me with ways to make money.

00:40:49.777 --> 00:40:53.637
Like things like that, you know, all these things coming together to help support

00:40:53.637 --> 00:40:57.757
doing the things that might not be profitable yet, right?

00:40:57.917 --> 00:41:01.817
Like competing doesn't, not every competition gives you money.

00:41:01.937 --> 00:41:05.257
You don't get paid to compete. And sometimes they cost money.

00:41:05.557 --> 00:41:08.797
You know, like

00:41:08.797 --> 00:41:11.677
example pans new york city right well long

00:41:11.677 --> 00:41:14.437
island you got to get to you got to get to new york you got

00:41:14.437 --> 00:41:17.497
to stay somewhere the hotel next door to the venue

00:41:17.497 --> 00:41:20.357
that they're having that is it like six hundred

00:41:20.357 --> 00:41:23.437
dollars a night right now pass so fuck that

00:41:23.437 --> 00:41:26.397
yeah you're like it better be uh the four seasons and

00:41:26.397 --> 00:41:30.077
it isn't there is no no it's it's a marriott okay not

00:41:30.077 --> 00:41:32.817
too bad okay but you know not six hundred not six hundred

00:41:32.817 --> 00:41:35.537
dollars a night good i'll sleep in the truck yeah i'll bring

00:41:35.537 --> 00:41:38.537
a tent um you know

00:41:38.537 --> 00:41:41.397
like competing costs money and

00:41:41.397 --> 00:41:44.377
for the most part that's prestige and title and

00:41:44.377 --> 00:41:48.297
those are things that can help facilitate success

00:41:48.297 --> 00:41:51.177
in jiu-jitsu but they don't necessarily there's plenty

00:41:51.177 --> 00:41:54.497
of guys who are successful that don't compete or aren't

00:41:54.497 --> 00:41:57.537
like title holders for any sort of the

00:41:57.537 --> 00:42:00.557
you don't have to win things to be successful

00:42:00.557 --> 00:42:03.577
but it can help and also

00:42:03.577 --> 00:42:06.397
you know it's it's branding like you said yeah it's branding

00:42:06.397 --> 00:42:09.437
right or it can help you prove

00:42:09.437 --> 00:42:12.177
things to yourself and become better because you learn things while

00:42:12.177 --> 00:42:17.177
you're there like you figure out holes in your game that then you find out how

00:42:17.177 --> 00:42:23.597
can i be top level so like there's reasons for it but you're not getting paid

00:42:23.597 --> 00:42:28.937
for it um then there are some that do pay money um like vanguard invitational

00:42:28.937 --> 00:42:30.757
there's a cash prize if you win.

00:42:32.657 --> 00:42:38.037
NGA has you know submission of the night match of the night bonuses like there

00:42:38.037 --> 00:42:40.137
are ways to get money but it's not like,

00:42:41.012 --> 00:42:44.272
substantial if you're not at the top of the of

00:42:44.272 --> 00:42:47.092
the sport right to me even some of those guys at the top of sport

00:42:47.092 --> 00:42:50.072
man like they'll make like maybe 10 g's

00:42:50.072 --> 00:42:53.172
yeah i mean which like i'll i would take it of course

00:42:53.172 --> 00:42:56.452
but 10 g's man i mean that's like especially with

00:42:56.452 --> 00:42:59.652
the amount of two months of expenses yeah yeah it's like that's that

00:42:59.652 --> 00:43:02.532
you have to do that every month so twice a

00:43:02.532 --> 00:43:06.212
month it's like you said like the the

00:43:06.212 --> 00:43:08.852
physical work isn't what you

00:43:08.852 --> 00:43:11.892
get paid for it's how you sell yourself

00:43:11.892 --> 00:43:15.172
it's the things you do around jujitsu

00:43:15.172 --> 00:43:21.312
to monetize jujitsu like owning a business or coaching or private lessons like

00:43:21.312 --> 00:43:25.572
those are the things that make you money and so you gotta have time to do those

00:43:25.572 --> 00:43:30.012
things if you want to well at least for me you know for for us like you have

00:43:30.012 --> 00:43:34.572
to have time for those things to monetize the thing that's fun.

00:43:34.852 --> 00:43:37.852
And so you have to make that thing to keep that thing fun too,

00:43:38.032 --> 00:43:41.052
right? Like we should be enjoying doing jujitsu.

00:43:41.312 --> 00:43:43.932
It's great to be able to do jujitsu.

00:43:44.492 --> 00:43:49.392
And if you can find the way to make money around it,

00:43:49.552 --> 00:43:52.532
even if you're not necessarily making money doing it, you know,

00:43:52.592 --> 00:43:54.652
like obviously I get kind of are,

00:43:54.792 --> 00:43:58.552
but if you can monetize the

00:43:58.552 --> 00:44:01.352
sport so that you can have the time to do it for me

00:44:01.352 --> 00:44:04.152
that's that's the goal

00:44:04.152 --> 00:44:07.352
and so like you know shout out to shout

00:44:07.352 --> 00:44:11.432
out to jason over battlefield for helping me with that you know making it possible

00:44:11.432 --> 00:44:17.012
um coaching me cruise combat huge shout out for them like that dude's taking

00:44:17.012 --> 00:44:24.072
a huge chance on me right like i'm just a guy um shout him man yeah so you know

00:44:24.072 --> 00:44:26.812
shout him loud Ryan over at Cruise Combat, thank you.

00:44:28.152 --> 00:44:32.532
You know, buy their stuff. I'll put links. Buy some Cruise Combat stuff and

00:44:32.532 --> 00:44:33.672
definitely use Mike's link.

00:44:33.752 --> 00:44:36.752
Yeah, definitely use my link. But, you know, so like.

00:44:37.673 --> 00:44:41.633
Finding the way to, you know, I'm essentially trying to create the life I want. Right.

00:44:42.173 --> 00:44:48.773
And I reached a point where I decided that working for someone else in a eight

00:44:48.773 --> 00:44:55.993
hour a day job that wasn't, I had already reached the goal of what I wanted to do in that career.

00:44:56.453 --> 00:45:01.093
And so at that point, it was just a job, right?

00:45:01.273 --> 00:45:04.653
Like it's a weird way to put it, but I'm picking it.

00:45:04.713 --> 00:45:07.853
I know exactly what you mean like i had an

00:45:07.853 --> 00:45:11.053
aspiration yeah an aspiration of what

00:45:11.053 --> 00:45:14.253
i want what i wanted to accomplish in that career i reached

00:45:14.253 --> 00:45:17.093
it and then i kind of

00:45:17.093 --> 00:45:21.913
started like the the reason for doing it started to get muddy and i decided

00:45:21.913 --> 00:45:26.733
there were other things that i wanted to i wanted to put that time towards that

00:45:26.733 --> 00:45:34.713
would be way more fulfilling to me like those that two hours from getting home to my kids going to bed,

00:45:34.893 --> 00:45:39.073
way more fulfilling than the eight hours I spent at work, right?

00:45:39.293 --> 00:45:44.853
Sometimes even longer than eight hours, especially when you're the guy,

00:45:45.033 --> 00:45:51.473
you're running the business, that eight hours plus becomes super muddy because

00:45:51.473 --> 00:45:53.373
sometimes I'm waking up at 4 a.m.

00:45:53.893 --> 00:45:58.413
And I've, for the brewery, I have clients that are in different time zones.

00:45:59.033 --> 00:46:05.933
One of them is in Dubai. Like I'm almost 24 seven, except for when I'm sleeping.

00:46:06.113 --> 00:46:10.533
Right. Like, so it becomes very difficult because I have to do my job all the time.

00:46:11.833 --> 00:46:16.693
So I, I just needed a way to change that because it was stealing,

00:46:17.073 --> 00:46:20.033
not just my time, but it was taking time for my kids.

00:46:20.253 --> 00:46:23.133
It was taking time for my wife and making it difficult for them.

00:46:23.293 --> 00:46:27.493
So like it, it became a pretty tough balance.

00:46:27.613 --> 00:46:30.353
It becomes a pretty tough balancing act. And, you know, like we're talking about

00:46:30.353 --> 00:46:35.353
balance here, like, uh, you gotta, you gotta figure out how to do that.

00:46:35.533 --> 00:46:36.813
And sometimes that's hard.

00:46:37.253 --> 00:46:43.193
Um, we're lucky enough to be in a situation where like, we'll be okay, you know?

00:46:43.613 --> 00:46:51.773
Um, but I guess, you know, that's, it's tough to, to make, to pick those things

00:46:51.773 --> 00:46:56.613
out because it can be, it can be scary to chase a new career.

00:46:56.733 --> 00:47:01.053
And this is not really a new one, but it's the second time going back to it

00:47:01.053 --> 00:47:03.233
and it's the second time chasing a new career.

00:47:03.493 --> 00:47:05.973
You know, like those are tough things to do and it takes sacrifice.

00:47:08.553 --> 00:47:11.493
But luckily, you have people supporting you. Shout out to my wife.

00:47:11.813 --> 00:47:15.253
Shout out to your wife, man. So, you know, like I think.

00:47:16.230 --> 00:47:23.430
I think that a lot of people that have family job doing jujitsu and like a lot

00:47:23.430 --> 00:47:27.170
of them, you know, there's, there's guys who are doing it professionally doing jujitsu.

00:47:27.590 --> 00:47:31.910
And then there's people that are also, um, doing as a hobby and like,

00:47:32.090 --> 00:47:34.650
that's their, you know, that's their social hour, that's their social time.

00:47:34.830 --> 00:47:39.770
And like balancing all those things is tough, especially like with the,

00:47:39.990 --> 00:47:42.090
how addictive jujitsu is, right?

00:47:42.090 --> 00:47:45.270
Like you're getting like that almost

00:47:45.270 --> 00:47:48.610
like the runner's high like there's massive dopamine from

00:47:48.610 --> 00:47:51.570
doing jiu-jitsu like competing in jiu-jitsu

00:47:51.570 --> 00:47:54.830
too like wins and there's there's it's

00:47:54.830 --> 00:47:57.990
very very easy to get

00:47:57.990 --> 00:48:00.970
sucked in and that be the

00:48:00.970 --> 00:48:04.650
thing that you want to do and also

00:48:04.650 --> 00:48:08.410
have other things you need to do because you're you're

00:48:08.410 --> 00:48:11.150
there's other people who you have to revolve your life

00:48:11.150 --> 00:48:14.190
around so um so yeah i mean it's

00:48:14.190 --> 00:48:17.250
it's it's definitely tough because you have

00:48:17.250 --> 00:48:19.930
people that rely on you and similar to how you're

00:48:19.930 --> 00:48:23.490
talking about you have employees right like you can't just gallivant around

00:48:23.490 --> 00:48:27.530
and do jujitsu tournaments all every weekend because you have people that you're

00:48:27.530 --> 00:48:32.950
also beholden to for the companies that you own so like yeah it's a very that

00:48:32.950 --> 00:48:38.530
in a way like the situations are similar because there's people that rely on you.

00:48:39.210 --> 00:48:45.210
Um, so whether it's family and kids or a business and the people that help you

00:48:45.210 --> 00:48:50.210
make that business work, like the balance is important for people outside of yourself, I guess.

00:48:50.570 --> 00:48:53.330
Um, these things I'm figuring, kind of thinking of as we're talking.

00:48:53.710 --> 00:48:57.770
Um, and so you have to balance these things.

00:48:57.930 --> 00:49:03.990
Cause if you just do the things that you want to do then and they don't benefit

00:49:03.990 --> 00:49:08.030
the thing the things that make it possible then yeah you're it can be trouble

00:49:08.030 --> 00:49:13.930
so well you said something earlier that i think connects this.

00:49:15.850 --> 00:49:20.430
Perhaps speaking for myself this is kind of like an overarching narrative behind

00:49:20.430 --> 00:49:25.390
all of it which i guess i'm gonna go for it um i think you have to like i say

00:49:25.390 --> 00:49:27.310
this for us but for anyone listening to.

00:49:27.430 --> 00:49:30.690
It's sort of like, you have to think to yourself, like, what am I, you get one life to live,

00:49:31.723 --> 00:49:36.223
what, this is not an easy thing to do, but what was I put on this earth to do?

00:49:36.823 --> 00:49:38.983
And like, you know, if you're like, you sit silently, you know,

00:49:39.043 --> 00:49:41.803
anyone just, no noise, you can probably answer that question.

00:49:42.243 --> 00:49:43.243
Most people can answer the question.

00:49:43.923 --> 00:49:46.223
Whether they do it or not is another thing, but they can answer the question.

00:49:46.623 --> 00:49:51.663
At least like what they want to do, what they're good at, because that will

00:49:51.663 --> 00:49:53.443
then convey like, what can I get paid to do?

00:49:54.103 --> 00:49:57.663
Like, what am I meant to be doing in my life?

00:49:58.223 --> 00:50:01.103
Where do I provide value to others? and then

00:50:01.103 --> 00:50:03.843
where you can because what i

00:50:03.843 --> 00:50:06.603
said that i connected earlier is like you were saying like you're becoming

00:50:06.603 --> 00:50:09.803
no use to the people around you when you're constantly exhausted and

00:50:09.803 --> 00:50:12.583
kind of just upset pissed or whatever i don't know

00:50:12.583 --> 00:50:15.303
frustrated frustrated yeah you didn't say those words but

00:50:15.303 --> 00:50:18.383
i was picking up what you're putting frustrated exhausted like it's

00:50:18.383 --> 00:50:21.703
not benefiting you and like it's not the

00:50:21.703 --> 00:50:24.463
longer you don't benefit from this the more that then means other people

00:50:24.463 --> 00:50:27.363
around you who rely on you aren't going to benefit from that you need to

00:50:27.363 --> 00:50:30.563
be the best like you need to be in your best possible position to be

00:50:30.563 --> 00:50:34.103
valuable to them and to other people in your life too so that

00:50:34.103 --> 00:50:36.863
to me that's why i'm saying it like this is like what's the right thing

00:50:36.863 --> 00:50:39.963
for you to be doing that's sustainable and motivating and that you want to

00:50:39.963 --> 00:50:42.583
be good at that can and then i

00:50:42.583 --> 00:50:45.503
guess the next thing there is like if we're going to come up with like i don't

00:50:45.503 --> 00:50:48.203
know a mission statement for people it's like

00:50:48.203 --> 00:50:50.963
find that and then get paid as much as possible to do

00:50:50.963 --> 00:50:54.483
it yeah what what is the thing that benefits as many

00:50:54.483 --> 00:50:57.663
people as possible many people around you especially the ones that are

00:50:57.663 --> 00:51:00.963
the most important to you right right so yeah

00:51:00.963 --> 00:51:03.923
i mean if you break it down if you if you

00:51:03.923 --> 00:51:07.423
frame it like that it's like yeah how do i how do

00:51:07.423 --> 00:51:10.003
i become a how am i

00:51:10.003 --> 00:51:13.283
the most valuable to my family and then.

00:51:13.283 --> 00:51:16.003
Be like if i have if i'm able to put

00:51:16.003 --> 00:51:19.043
more time and energy into jiu-jitsu and

00:51:19.043 --> 00:51:22.583
coaching then i'm more valuable to all these guys that show

00:51:22.583 --> 00:51:25.483
up every morning right the guys that show up in the morning for me

00:51:25.483 --> 00:51:28.283
those are your customers yeah your customers need to have that

00:51:28.283 --> 00:51:31.083
value too yeah so like how do i provide them the

00:51:31.083 --> 00:51:34.663
most amount of value by not being in

00:51:34.663 --> 00:51:37.683
a rush or not being burnt out from doing other things

00:51:37.683 --> 00:51:43.403
that have become not a thing i'm really have taken away from the passion like

00:51:43.403 --> 00:51:48.583
it's the same thing with the guys that currently work for me right like i also

00:51:48.583 --> 00:51:52.463
want to be the best boss for them you know i want to be the best i want to be

00:51:52.463 --> 00:51:54.743
able to manage them the best that I can.

00:51:54.903 --> 00:51:57.963
And if I'm not in it, then I'm not the best, you know, if I'm,

00:51:58.063 --> 00:52:01.263
if my heart and mind aren't into it, it takes away from their, it's their time.

00:52:01.423 --> 00:52:04.143
It's not, yeah, it's not, that's not beneficial to them either.

00:52:04.743 --> 00:52:08.063
Um, so yeah, I mean, that's a pretty good way to frame that.

00:52:08.223 --> 00:52:11.203
Like, that's a good, like, let's look at this through a microscope.

00:52:11.463 --> 00:52:16.143
Like what is, how are you the most valuable to the people that matter to you

00:52:16.143 --> 00:52:19.323
and the things that matter to you? Um,

00:52:20.336 --> 00:52:23.356
know and because yeah it can't just be all i want

00:52:23.356 --> 00:52:27.136
to do all these things right like it can't just be that because something's

00:52:27.136 --> 00:52:30.696
gonna have to give eventually um not everything

00:52:30.696 --> 00:52:36.836
but if everything you do is if you're doing mostly things that are monetized

00:52:36.836 --> 00:52:40.396
and don't have that free time like you're talking about and in my case like

00:52:40.396 --> 00:52:45.336
free time is family time right like that's what i want to do in the in those

00:52:45.336 --> 00:52:50.336
if i have time i want to spend time with family and then you also have all these other things to do.

00:52:50.596 --> 00:52:55.876
So, um, so I mean, yeah, it's, it's tough. I mean, balancing the balancing act

00:52:55.876 --> 00:52:57.296
of life in general is tough.

00:52:57.876 --> 00:53:02.796
Um, especially is there's so many things you can do and there's so many things

00:53:02.796 --> 00:53:04.316
that can take you away from those things.

00:53:04.836 --> 00:53:08.756
Uh, that, yeah, I mean, it's, it's a lot,

00:53:09.476 --> 00:53:12.756
it's a lot, but once, you know, if you can answer that question and then,

00:53:12.976 --> 00:53:20.936
well, if you answer that question and you choose to do these things and you can then follow up on it.

00:53:21.076 --> 00:53:24.516
And some people are really good at like figuring out ways to make money. Some people aren't.

00:53:26.160 --> 00:53:28.680
I keep saying, I keep bringing that up money because it's like,

00:53:28.780 --> 00:53:29.660
you have to have it to live.

00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.320
Yeah. You just, you have, you just, you have to, like I'm not here to like make

00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:34.660
a case from whether that's good or bad.

00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.840
It just is what it is. Well, and you don't have to look into like,

00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:39.820
kind of, you don't have to look at yourself.

00:53:40.040 --> 00:53:43.340
Your value doesn't have to be tied to the money, but your ability to live is tied to the money.

00:53:43.580 --> 00:53:45.880
100%. The amount of money you have doesn't have to matter. No,

00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:51.780
but no, but like it's a practical, it's a practical thing for this type of thought process to say, like,

00:53:52.040 --> 00:53:55.920
cause like you're, if you want to, if you want to continue doing these things

00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:58.660
with that question that I propose for any individual listening,

00:53:58.820 --> 00:54:00.820
it's like, you're going to need to have a sustainable path to,

00:54:00.820 --> 00:54:03.960
to getting access to that money to continue to do it.

00:54:04.600 --> 00:54:08.060
And then as you said, for family, for whatever, like you, you got to like,

00:54:08.340 --> 00:54:10.900
you know, things, this life runs on money here.

00:54:11.180 --> 00:54:15.440
Just, it does. It's in the United States. It does like, you gotta have it.

00:54:15.580 --> 00:54:18.460
So like, if you, if you can answer that question, come up with a way to like,

00:54:18.540 --> 00:54:23.220
you know, if you listen to this and you're like, okay, yeah, I, now I want to do that.

00:54:23.340 --> 00:54:25.620
Like come up with like, a practical next step.

00:54:25.820 --> 00:54:29.540
Like I got to get this much money. I got to like find a way to live just to make ends meet.

00:54:30.580 --> 00:54:33.740
And then from there you can continue to build off of that. All right.

00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.780
I've made ends meet. Now I want to like live a little bit more with less stress

00:54:38.780 --> 00:54:41.480
or whatever. I want to like do some things. I want to enhance my life.

00:54:41.620 --> 00:54:44.840
Like you can, like the exercise of doing that first step, the person who can

00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:47.440
do that can then get to the next step and the next step.

00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:52.340
And you always have to be evaluating and developing your skills in that realm as well.

00:54:52.420 --> 00:54:55.740
And then at that point it's just a game of ambition like what do you maybe that

00:54:55.740 --> 00:54:58.220
goes back to the core question like what are you put here to do like how ambitious

00:54:58.220 --> 00:54:59.460
are you what do you want to get done.

00:55:00.580 --> 00:55:03.480
Um at what level at what scale and you keep pushing

00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:07.420
until you find what until you meet your needs yeah in the needs of your family

00:55:07.420 --> 00:55:11.140
or whoever like you said the people relying on you man like it's yeah like that's

00:55:11.140 --> 00:55:15.080
i i but okay to the balancing acts like if you're going to do these things like

00:55:15.080 --> 00:55:19.440
again it just has to be one life to live start with the day start with the week

00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:21.240
and say, what, how am I spending my time?

00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:25.799
Is what I'm spending my time on getting me to this point?

00:55:27.019 --> 00:55:29.659
And that's an exercise you're always going to have to audit too.

00:55:29.959 --> 00:55:33.559
You're going to have to constantly be reassessing that too. I'm doing that right

00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:34.559
now, looking at my schedule.

00:55:35.019 --> 00:55:37.999
I'm always doing that, but I'm definitely doing it right now,

00:55:38.139 --> 00:55:40.599
figuring out what needs to be adjusted for this purpose.

00:55:42.479 --> 00:55:49.819
And then it's kind of like for what we are doing, there's not one clear path on how to do it.

00:55:49.819 --> 00:55:52.859
There are people who have done things like what we're talking about

00:55:52.859 --> 00:55:56.039
well successfully and those are good models

00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.119
to study i highly recommend that we kind of talked about some

00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:02.159
of that earlier before we pop before we started recording this

00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.979
one like the thing that works for them

00:56:04.979 --> 00:56:08.319
might not be the thing that works for you either like you're like you're

00:56:08.319 --> 00:56:11.399
we're just talking about like some of the branding stuff like

00:56:11.399 --> 00:56:14.239
one guy says do it this way but that

00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:17.199
way didn't work it doesn't work as well for you as it did does

00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:19.959
for them and actually a different model work better for you but

00:56:19.959 --> 00:56:23.399
like at least you have a framework right so it's

00:56:23.399 --> 00:56:27.079
not it's not easy no but but it's just like anything else it's like you just

00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:31.059
like i mean how invested are you in it you're gonna find an answer you keep

00:56:31.059 --> 00:56:36.539
working at it you'll find an answer um and you just have to have you come back

00:56:36.539 --> 00:56:39.999
to the core question and remind yourself why you're doing it you have your why

00:56:39.999 --> 00:56:42.519
you you build your plan around it.

00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:46.299
You assess the plan, see when the plan is working and when it's not working.

00:56:46.399 --> 00:56:50.459
And you have to constantly have that exercise of being honest about that too.

00:56:50.619 --> 00:56:51.939
When are things working and not working?

00:56:52.139 --> 00:56:58.179
Well, and you have to surround yourself with people that want you to be successful as well, right?

00:56:58.359 --> 00:57:03.979
Like big time. It's, it's very easy to want to spend, to have the people around

00:57:03.979 --> 00:57:08.399
you that have you've had around you, but there's also.

00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:11.759
You know, you have different phases in life and Like you can have people,

00:57:11.919 --> 00:57:16.439
there's people that might be around you in one that really aren't worried about

00:57:16.439 --> 00:57:20.319
you being successful in the things you want to be successful in.

00:57:20.459 --> 00:57:24.099
Like you guys are drawn to each other for different reasons or,

00:57:24.099 --> 00:57:27.819
you know, it's just, you happen to, you know, same place, same time, whatever.

00:57:28.059 --> 00:57:32.279
Right. Like there's, so you do have to also surround yourself with the people

00:57:32.279 --> 00:57:35.539
that want to see you succeed in whatever it is you're doing.

00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:37.619
Like that's a big part of it too.

00:57:38.499 --> 00:57:41.919
Yeah. No, a thousand percent. because that can either be a drain on what you're

00:57:41.919 --> 00:57:44.539
doing or it could be an asset in what you're doing.

00:57:44.779 --> 00:57:47.399
Yeah, because, I mean, you could, you know, that free time you have, right?

00:57:47.539 --> 00:57:51.839
You try to, you go to, and you spend time with people that creates things that

00:57:51.839 --> 00:57:55.079
are detracting from your ultimate goal, right, your main goal.

00:57:56.439 --> 00:57:59.659
That's going to start to break that balance down and it becomes hard as well.

00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:01.959
Yeah, no, 100%.

00:58:03.059 --> 00:58:05.479
It's, yeah, I mean, you have to ask yourself a lot of, like, I, I,

00:58:06.608 --> 00:58:09.868
I guess maybe because I've been doing it for a while, I was going to say some

00:58:09.868 --> 00:58:14.568
of these, they are hard questions, but they get easier because you get aligned

00:58:14.568 --> 00:58:17.388
with what we talked about, like your true north as a person.

00:58:18.348 --> 00:58:21.488
And that, what you're describing, it gets a little bit easier.

00:58:21.708 --> 00:58:25.308
It is hard inherently, especially on that one too, where it's like people,

00:58:25.448 --> 00:58:27.008
like the vetting people thing.

00:58:27.228 --> 00:58:30.288
Yeah. I have a buddy who I talked to recently and he's like a similar position to a business owner.

00:58:30.728 --> 00:58:33.848
He told me he like once a month, he audits the circle of people he talks to.

00:58:33.848 --> 00:58:35.588
And he's like, I'll push them out. I'll keep them at arm's length.

00:58:35.668 --> 00:58:38.628
I'll bring these ones in. like he's like he's always doing that uh which

00:58:38.628 --> 00:58:41.848
i think is you know that's a that's a guy who like to this

00:58:41.848 --> 00:58:44.668
like hard question that i'm referring to he's made

00:58:44.668 --> 00:58:47.308
it relatively easy um but yeah it's like

00:58:47.308 --> 00:58:49.928
this stuff i mean if you're not doing this and you're hearing this right now

00:58:49.928 --> 00:58:54.268
like that might sound like it's a really difficult thing to do um and i i realize

00:58:54.268 --> 00:58:58.248
that but if it has to be done it just has to be done well and you know because

00:58:58.248 --> 00:59:02.228
you got one life to live the exact way you don't have time to waste the way

00:59:02.228 --> 00:59:06.108
we're doing it might not be the way that works for you either um but like,

00:59:06.188 --> 00:59:09.408
I mean, I went through that whole audit process probably back in like February

00:59:09.408 --> 00:59:12.948
and March because I was around the time that I started like toying with the

00:59:12.948 --> 00:59:17.408
idea of pulling the trigger on what you're- I think I can just do this again.

00:59:17.588 --> 00:59:20.988
And so like you go through and like, you know, I had those competitions at the

00:59:20.988 --> 00:59:23.508
beginning of the year. I'm like, all right. So like that didn't,

00:59:23.548 --> 00:59:24.868
that didn't work out the way I want.

00:59:24.968 --> 00:59:28.248
Like, what was I doing before? And you like look back at like,

00:59:28.328 --> 00:59:30.808
all right, well, what pieces don't I have?

00:59:30.848 --> 00:59:33.708
What pieces do I, what pieces do I have? What do I need?

00:59:33.888 --> 00:59:37.788
Like, and you go through all these things that like, all right,

00:59:37.868 --> 00:59:40.188
well, what does this person do? What's making them successful?

00:59:40.388 --> 00:59:42.448
And you have to sit there and like compile the list of like,

00:59:42.508 --> 00:59:46.168
all right, here's all the things I need to do. Here's the things I need to get done.

00:59:46.808 --> 00:59:52.048
Um, you know, and it was like, all right, before I was intensive strength and conditioning program.

00:59:52.588 --> 00:59:59.528
Um, I was, you know, hustling for, to try to pick up support systems, sponsors,

01:00:00.028 --> 01:00:03.868
you know, ways to monetize what I'm doing and like, you know,

01:00:03.968 --> 01:00:07.648
putting all these things together and like, you know, making this list of like,

01:00:07.688 --> 01:00:10.928
all right, what, who all do I need? What do I need to do? What do I need to get rid of?

01:00:11.008 --> 01:00:14.948
What do I need to pick up all of these things? And like, it's,

01:00:15.168 --> 01:00:18.828
you, you start to really realize, you start to realize like, you know.

01:00:19.355 --> 01:00:22.415
The almost like the fat around your life

01:00:22.415 --> 01:00:25.175
you know like what you what needs to be trimmed to make your

01:00:25.175 --> 01:00:29.475
life what you want it to be and streamlined and be

01:00:29.475 --> 01:00:32.115
able to do the things you want to spend time with the

01:00:32.115 --> 01:00:35.275
people you want to spend time with and feel fulfilled

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right like because ultimately yeah you get one

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life like you said you get to do this one time and

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uh i was talking with someone who

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uh a student of mine someone who i train um

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in he was like i was

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so obsessed with making getting

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as much money and power and he listens to this show so hopefully he you know

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when you but you know like he was he was saying he was so obsessed with making

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as much money and power you know gathering as much power and like you know climbing

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the ladder whatever getting as much money as possible.

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And then when he could no longer do that, you realize all the things you miss.

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And actually I was on the way here, I was talking with my mom and she was like,

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the best thing she ever did.

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And the moment she realized it was when she quit her job and was.

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Able to, you know, like in the, before, like I was fully in school,

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like, you know, in those younger years and she's like when we're

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just kind of like walking around and like just a little thing

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like picking up a stick and playing with the stick like she's like these are

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things that she would have missed if that wasn't if

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she tried to like chase this other stuff at the time um you

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know it's like those little moments and like the times when you know there's

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stuff you can't get back right so if those are the things that matter to you

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you finding a way to get the keep those things right like it doesn't have to

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be kids stuff it can be anything like there's just you can't get time back so.

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You know gotta figure out how to how to get the time you want yeah and that's

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the balance question it's like what do you have this resource of time,

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And you need to have an answer for it. We can't give you the answer.

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No. I mean, the balance is like you spend your time on what you value.

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You just got to know what you value. Oh, yeah. I mean, exactly.

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Because, I mean, there's, can't take anything with you, right?

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You ain't taking it with you. Yeah. They might figure that out. Yeah. Right.

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So, yeah. I guess we'll wrap on that. So, like, thank you guys for going through.

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I know we got, like, kind of deep on some of that. So.

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Let's go deep. hopefully hopefully you

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guys gather gain something from this you know that that's

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ultimately the goal with this conversation um especially with

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how fresh this is on my mind and you

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know scott as well like we we were kind of sitting here talking about

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what we wanted to go over today and we decided

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the balancing act because yeah jujitsu does kind

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of have a life balance issue inherently in

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it and um you know so we just want

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to give you guys a little bit of our experiences and how we're managing that

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or have been managing that so i hope

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that this you guys find value in this and thank

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