(Ep 23) Jiu Jitsu Cowboy: Caleb Knepley of High Noon Lariat Jiu-Jitsu

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee. Today we are with Caleb Knepley,

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a coach and athlete out of High Noon Jiu-Jitsu.

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Soon to be, actually when this episode drops, he will be the head instructor

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and owner of Lariat Jiu-Jitsu in Pentagon City, Arlington, Virginia. Caleb, welcome.

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Thanks guys, thanks for having me. Welcome! welcome uh

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so yeah so when this is coming out it'll

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be the grand opening of your gym in pentagon

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city so that'll be uh this will be dropping at 5 a.m on the same day so roughly

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12 hours later you're gonna be having your first class so that's pretty exciting

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by the time everyone wakes up they can sign up for caleb's gym yeah you're going

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in the show notes you will sign up immediately caleb's gym when you hear this

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and if you are gonna come please sign up

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i've had like 12 people tell me they're coming and i believe they're coming

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and then i opened the thing and it's like three people have signed up

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i'm worried that like i'm almost worried in a positive way that i'm

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gonna have like 40 people show up and i'll be like you're not gonna get ready

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for i don't know if i got space for you guys what um what are you using for

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signups and all that like a platform yeah you're a gym desk i do yeah so i was

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looking through different platforms um i've had like some experience with zen

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planner uh i just think like the navigation is a little funky,

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and then I found Gymdesk and like they have like it's pretty scalable for how

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many members you have so that they had like a pretty.

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Approachable starting point and it just like looks kind of nice you know there

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you go yeah so it's been they reach out to me I've seen like I've seen their

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promos and stuff like that I've never looked into it but it looks decent so

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yeah it's had everything so far,

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I ended up making a website out of something else their website maker was alright

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but you know easy way to like drop stuff in so it's been good I'm excited you know Good.

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Good. Good, ma'am. So...

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You know, uh, said high noon, you guys are doing, uh, so what's your scheduled

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high noon look like and how is that going to be against Lariat?

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Like what is the schedule going to be like? Are you coach still going to be

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coaching at high noon training there and then also running classes out of Lariat

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and where, where exactly is it?

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Yeah. So we tell people that right now, Larry, it's going to be inside of a,

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there's a CrossFit box called brazen fitness.

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Um, the owners of that, they were parents of some of the kids in our kids program.

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So that's how we got connected.

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So it's going to be in like the back half of their CrossFit box.

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I've got a bunch of rollout mats. We're going to roll them out Tuesday at 730, Friday at 630.

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And we'll have like a nice hour class. Should be pretty straightforward. Should be fun.

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Right now at high noon, I mainly coach the kids.

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I'll like help with the adults every once in a while if someone's out or something.

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But we've already got a pretty like stock set of coaches over there.

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So I was teaching the kids pretty much Monday through Thursday.

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Now tuesday i won't be there but every other day i'll still be there and you

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know i like coaching the kids it's fun um can be stressful but like watching

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them get better watching them go do tournaments the highs and the lows it's

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a it's a fun thing to be a part of oh yeah absolutely dude,

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any anytime like especially you're probably

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seeing a lot more progress there you get to see like the kids kind

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of go from brand new and not really knowing anything about jujitsu and then

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as they kind of climb up and you also you're watching them literally grow up

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too yeah it's pretty cool like the the skill side is cool i mean like you say

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that with adults too like the mental side is awesome like you get you get like

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some kids who go their first tournament and they just like,

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win or lose they just have like a terrible time because it was hard and

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they kind of they like losing it and then you talk to them they train some more

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they go to the next tournament they might even have like a worse tournament

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than they did before but they're like handling it so much better and i think

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that like that kind of grows really cool to see because you don't see that as

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much in adults sometimes you do but then sometimes like adults are salty win

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lose the whole time and they're competing, so it's like.

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Nice to see the psychology the differences

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yeah yeah you see uh especially you know

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you watch the kids compete and like the first couple times no matter

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what they say they're hurt right like oh yeah and then

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they're not really hurt they just don't know how to process the emotions of what

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just happened right and then yeah they you

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can literally watch them become battle-hardened essentially and like

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they're like yeah no i just won or i just lost no big

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deal i'll go do it again so that's pretty cool yeah the

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oh the hurt thing man when i first started teaching kids every single

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tear i went like full panic mode about i was like oh my god

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are you okay and now i'm almost like you're fine

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i think you're fine let's let's go again yeah like

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i've reached that point every step point you have to like it's almost

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like like mike said they they don't know how to process the

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emotion so you have to be like they're a little spiritual leader you're like you look

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at them you stay stoic you're like you're fine keep walking

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off you're good and then like two seconds they're like yeah i am fine and then.

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They just keep going yeah i mean i have two kids and

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like the number of times they're like something hurts daddy

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i'm like dude look at yourself check everything

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you're fine brush it off like does it

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really hurt and yeah so it's pretty it's an

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interesting thing with kids so yeah i

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mean and credit to like tim and my and like my especially because she was running the

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kids program before i got there like most of

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me learning how to deal with kids and their varying emotions came

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from her so a lot of credit goes to her for that one she's guided me

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through like quite a bit on um dealing with

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them like coaching the kids through a bunch of different stuff you guys

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can hear me but you probably can't scott is about to pour

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coffee for everyone they can't hear you um yeah this is the you guys don't normally

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get the coffee pouring portion of fighters drinking coffee it's usually pre-poured

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so this is a treat that you can't even see happen right now um.

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Yeah, let's get that. Thank you, man. ASMR. That was a nice pour.

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Coffee ASMR? Oh, my. Oh, yeah, I heard that one.

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Yeah. All right, yeah. Yeah, we'll need to clip that and put it at the beginning of every episode now.

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Yeah, so you're teaching kids at high noon. Yeah.

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So you're going to be having adult classes for now, primarily at Lariat.

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Yeah, only adult classes for now.

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I think two kids' programs would be a lot. And then also just,

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um, kids classes in like a CrossFit box rollout.

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It's just kind of a weird vibe, but like the end goal for Larry is like one,

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if they, if Brazen starts having more evenings available, I know they have other stuff going on.

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I think on other days right now, um, I would like to take more evenings so they

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can offer more classes, but the end goal is to get my own spot.

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Um, ideally I'd like to have jujitsu gym and like a fully loaded, like just gym lifting.

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Workout commercial gym type space in one that's kind of like the big that's

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the vision that's the big dream angle yeah for sure well that's good too because

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then people i mean that bang for your buck is great too from a um member standpoint

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right like they know that they have,

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they can basically just have one membership yeah rather than having to juggle

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a couple because that's pretty tough too yeah i mean i do that now but i'm also

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like you know i'm privileged that i teach and instruct at high noon so i really

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don't have to worry about the,

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the lifting membership but like i yeah i

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know plenty of people who have both and it just seems like

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it's a lot to manage oh yeah i bet it

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is especially like you have a lot less um

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you have a lot less like maintenance involved with

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the jujitsu gym compared to like a lifting

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gym you don't have like equipment that fails the

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same way i mean like you still have stuff you have to replace and repair but

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like it's a vastly different animal in terms of.

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Uh you know stuff yeah people just

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like breaking machines and throwing things everywhere where like

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yeah jiu-jitsu gym is just like the mats and

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the walls yeah so you're going to start off with the two

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evening classes two evening class fill that out let it

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like let it the the membership grow

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up then we're looking for more slots like you said yeah eventually get

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to where um you're able to shop around

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find a good location for what you're doing one day also pack

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that in with the yeah strength and conditioning yeah so it's probably

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going to be fill these classes out if more spots open

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up at brazen get some more classes in there eventually get

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my own spot jujitsu first obviously and then probably slowly drop

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like pieces of weight training equipment in there

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until we have like a full full gym do you

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want to keep it like mostly jujitsu do you want to add in

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some other like mma elements to it what are you thinking yeah i

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don't know um i'll probably never have an

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mma fight team i just it's just like those

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mike drop yes those guys because when

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i met you you were still fighting i was a fighter yeah you're a

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fighter yeah um yeah for a while i like started mma

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with mma first realistically i did uh and like

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three kickboxing fights four mma fights and then i

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was lined up for an amateur title and it was also like during covid so like.

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Uh promotions were like showing up and then getting shut down immediately so

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a bunch of us prepped like probably for like four or five fights that like the

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week out they were like oh sorry guys kind of is tough yeah um but i was set

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up for like an amateur title i did one training session and i was like yeah

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i don't think i care about this anymore.

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Um you're fired up about jiu-jitsu yeah i was having a ton

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of fun with jiu-jitsu um just got a little tired of like

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getting hit in the head tell me about it and

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like used to fight too yeah and like i you know in fair amateur

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mma i'd never even like lost but it's just like the prep

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and the training was just well and then like you said like

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you're trying to go to book a fight and like you're you're doing all this work the

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trip you're doing the prep you're doing the training you're getting hit

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in the head there's like all the stress and shit that comes with all of

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that plus the impending date that you're preparing for and it

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drops out from underneath you because you know covid whatever like

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yeah it's the fight stops like well how many how many

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camps did you have that did not result in the fight too dude

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i don't know because that's what got me out of it yeah even like

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kickboxing i had like two or three other fights lined

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up that didn't fall through i remember my first kickboxing fight i ended up getting a

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different opponent when i weighed in and they

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were just like we got this guy and like luckily it turned out okay like

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i won but i was like this could be terrible what's that's

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like it's also super not professional no

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no so crazy and this area is better

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than other like i've i cornered a fight in pennsylvania

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and like the rule set's insane like there

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was like no striking on the ground you're wearing shin guards and they're like everyone

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in the back was literally like yeah if you get a takedown even if you get beat

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up on the feet you're gonna win the fight and i was like what and they're like

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that's just how that's just how the judges are in pa we were like oh they love

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wrestling okay sounds like i should go for takedown yeah like all right um but

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i'll probably get some striking in there i still like striking i actually.

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There's a couple of striking classes that's kind of just turned to like a little

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kickboxing club with me and like two or three other dudes at high noon that

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i teach a couple times a week um.

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But at some point i probably end up just getting someone else to teach it just

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because i'd i'd almost rather just take the class you know um because i still

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like striking i just like not invested nearly as much time into like studying

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it and like re-watching fights and striking techniques and Muay Thai, like I used to be like,

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I'm pretty much all jujitsu and the free time that I spend on that kind of stuff.

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But some kickboxing in there eventually. I don't know about,

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it may be like an MMA class or two.

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I just, I don't think I could do the full MMA fighter thing.

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Like being a coach for those guys just seems like probably a bit more than I

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would want to deal with. It's a lot of work. Yeah.

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I corner a lot of MMA fights with, I mean, and like Charles did just go at DMA. He runs all that.

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So it's, he loves, he loves MMA. It's like his passion.

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I'm like more of a role player in that world, which I think is a good fit for me.

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I mean, i like doing it i have fun with those guys and those and the dudes

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in our team who are the guys at dma who are on that team they

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work super hard so it's like it's easy to go in and kind of like help them

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because it's like they work hard yeah i like doing that um but

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dude it's a lot of effort man i mean you got the weight cutting is tough

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oh man weight cutting is i'm off man i'm like a i

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float between like 185 and 189 now i thought at 145 yeah that's wild i'm like

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six feet tall yeah yeah i was dying well even 155 for you would be wild still

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yeah but i'm like kind of small for 155 it's crazy i stood some next some other

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like 55 or 55ers and i was like do you know caldoon.

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Um maybe he wild man bearded you probably

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probably i've probably seen him yeah he's he's not

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as tall as you but he's 190 as well like

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when he's fully fed yeah um then he fights 155

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and he's like he'll he'll talk to me he'll be

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like all right man like i think i'm gonna fight seven or

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eight weeks so i'm gonna try to get to like the high 70s

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low 80s yeah that would right now but like that's a

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dude it's like and again let me know he's fully committed

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to mma like he's he loves doing it so it's this is

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a labor of love that he's totally fine doing yeah um

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but you need that like commitment to want to do it dude and i like this is this

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is definitely the wrong way to do this but when i started doing mma i like i

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didn't realize this because i was a personal trainer before that i just like

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stopped lifting weights because i was so focused on like being light enough

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to get down to 45 i would like look at old pictures of me um back when i was

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fighting I look like a twig. I was like, what?

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How was I fighting like grown men looking like this? It's wild.

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But, okay, so I'm going to do some Caleb background, right? So I met Caleb.

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He swung through one of our DMA training sessions. I probably joined the pandemic.

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Do you remember what that was? Yeah, it was like right after.

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Right after. It was like me, you, Sam, Joey came through. Oh,

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yeah. Remember that? Yeah, dude.

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Yeah, Joey's in the mix. I haven't seen him in a while, but whatever.

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But anyways, like, so I want to say that was kind of a, I don't know.

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You can tell me, but it seemed like maybe that was around the time when you

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were like, yeah, I think I'm going to start doing a little more jiu-jitsu.

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Yeah. You went over to high noon. Tell us about like that, like you transitioned.

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You've been with that team for a couple of years now. Yeah, like a little over two years now.

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So like I'd known him for a long time because I used to go to their like open mats a lot.

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And then, so what ended up happening is at the other gym I was at,

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at Kaizen, I ended up like,

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at least at one of the locations, kind of just running the jiu-jitsu program.

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And I wasn't getting a whole lot of training myself.

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And I started doing these Sunday open mats. And Nate Marsh, Fairfax High School

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wrestling coach, teaches wrestling at high noon, started coming to him.

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I don't know why. He just kind of started showing up. And we started chatting.

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We started, like, rock climbing together.

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And, like, you know, he slowly kind of convinced me. Because I had already kind

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of thought about it. In fact, so, like, I was always coaching at Kaizen.

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But for a brief time, I went and just got, like, a normal job.

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I was working at, like, a data center in Ashburn.

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Um and right as i quit that to like work at kaizen a little bit more tim and

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messaged me at the same time because i guess that was when he was like planning

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the high nude expansion and asked me if i wanted to work for him and i was like

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i can't right now i already committed to something else

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and then like six months later nate's like get your ass over let's get over

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there yeah and then um talked to maya i started teaching the kids a little bit

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um yeah so i started teaching the kids.

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Towards the end of like that year uh competed a couple

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times under tim i'd never done any like big tournaments and then

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so i decided to just jump into an adcc open and see what would happen which

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was cool that was fun um competing at like 11 30

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a night is a little rough but dude i was which one was that

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that was or that was one of the orlandos i went well i didn't go to it but um

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yeah those adcc when they started doing the opens when they kind of expanded

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from just doing trials to say now they're doing regional opens get more people

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experience with the rule set make some money and then yeah get people familiar

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with that for trials and all that kind of i just developed,

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some more talent in that space so it makes sense for them

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to do that when they first started doing those we sent a

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couple guys up to new jersey because they had a new jersey one

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the atlantic city one did you do that dude i got my foot broken

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in that one and like the one time 1 a.m yeah like so the dude the dude got me

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all right fair enough but i think i would have tapped 15 seconds earlier if

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it was three hours before i'm in like that stupid reverse closed guard like

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a block thing and i'm like kind of staring at it and i was like am i caught

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but that's because I'm like half asleep.

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You're like delirious. And then when I go to tap, my foot just like explodes.

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And I was like, come on. But yes, this is the point, right?

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Like they got so many people who wanted to do these things, the demand to go

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to these ADCC tournaments.

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Again, that's pretty cool. They were getting so like, I guess overbooked.

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I don't know what else to call it. Yeah.

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They had like, when Smooth Comp or whatever spit out the match times, they were showing like.

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Like, Andrea went, and I think she fought it. Like, I remember I was,

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like, in my bed looking at my phone because it was, like, 11.45,

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and I was like, damn, dog. I want to go to bed. But I'm watching her match.

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I was like, this is wild as hell. They were going all night.

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They also, like, I just, I think due to the number of people,

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like, they just weren't ready to deal with, like, the technical difficulties.

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So Orlando was crazy because there's, like, a union there, and,

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like, people aren't allowed to work past a certain number of hours.

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So they kicked everyone out of the venue for an hour, which delayed everything for a bunch of time.

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Atlantic City, I remember I woke up in the morning. It said my first match was at 3 p.m.

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I took a nap i woke back up all adult matches

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were just gone like they just weren't there and then

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eventually i went at like 9 p.m like it's just like they're

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having like computer crap like i didn't think they weren't ready to

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like deal with the stuff that's probably inevitably going to happen like you

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know credit to ibjjf it's like you got to give them credit sometimes it's organized

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like i had never done one i went to pans and they're like you're on at 9 a.m

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and i was on at 9 a.m yeah ibjjf is by far like the most on time of all of them

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and there's something to that That's the only thing.

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Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, look, my first tournament, like. He goes,

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that's the only thing I like about it. Look.

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Look, I have a high noon brown belt rash guard. Yes. The entire back square is brown.

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Lady at the front's like, you're good to go. The guy walking me out is like, you're good to go.

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Wasn't even the ref at my mat. Some dude randomly runs out from like a table

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and he's like, I don't know about this rash guard. I was like, what do you mean?

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Dude, the head table interference for uniform stuff is the main thing that I

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don't like. Like that is one of the worst things.

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It's just like, dude, he made it past, they made it past uniform.

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What are we doing? You got to just allow it at this point.

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He points at the all brown square and he's like, I don't think there's enough

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brown. And I was like, what are you talking about?

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Should I go shirtless? so I had to sprint out buy like a Kings whatever which

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alright it's a nice rash guard fair enough that dude gets a kick back that one

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guy there's no way there's no way he doesn't.

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But yeah but yeah so yeah I started doing it long tangent there I started doing the ADCC tournaments,

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and yeah I just started doing a bunch of like way harder stuff like back when I got my brown belt.

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I still don't think I was like actually ready to be a brown belt and like classic

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imposter syndrome it was dude it was a weird promotion though like.

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Take the brown belt man tim's gonna give you a brown belt.

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You take no no i got the brown belt elsewhere yeah i.

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Joined high noon after anything that tim and my and them

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give me i you accept yeah i will accept yeah but i'm

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like over there i'm not even training at this point you should i'm like

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just teaching and then like the guy who's like the head black

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belt has like not even been there for like two years and he shows

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up and they give me the brown belt and he's just like i heard you've been

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doing good and that was like the whole thing and i was like all right

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sick um but then like yeah so

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huge imposter syndrome sit in so i just didn't compete at brown

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belt like at all and then i jumped in at high noon and i like mentioned kind

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of wanting to do it and tim was like well let's do

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it so yeah i've been been doing a lot of competing um

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still gonna do some competing is be interesting to see how that turns out

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while running my own spot but you know you'll be good if

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anything i get like super stressed out competing and if

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that's the only thing that's on my mind so maybe being able to do all this i'll just

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roll up to a tournament and just be like grumpy about it and I'll do really well because

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I won't be like stressed out about it yeah I'm usually

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more stressed out coaching than competing now because like

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I get all the stress out watching all of the like all

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my athletes compete so like I'm like coaching everyone and I'm like

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way more stressed about that and it's my turn like yeah it's fine yeah

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um honestly if I'm being honest I think most of the stress just

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comes from all that like bs like supposed to be a brown but like whatever like

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that I ran in that Orlando tournament I didn't even know who he was I ran to

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Michael Sains who at the time was like a blue or purple belt and I was and then

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he beat me and I was like dang and then I like looked him up and I was like

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well yeah okay I see what's going on yeah give yourself a break.

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Yeah, so one of the, okay, so I want to talk to you about what you've liked

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the most, how you've developed since you went over to High Noon.

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Tim is a buddy of mine. Yeah. I've chained with him a bunch of times. He's a great guy.

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You guys seem like you have an awesome team, too. Every time I go around,

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I like seeing what I see. Just the environment, the community is really cool to see.

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There's a lot of jiu-jitsu in our area, right? Yeah. A ton.

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Yeah. but there's there's there's not a ton of um what would you say i guess like competitor,

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present teams yeah there there are but like there's there's

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not a lot of places that are like mainly made

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up of like they have a huge portion of the

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uh school makeup like the huge portions

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quote unquote it's interesting right because like i

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don't know i'll ask you guys i don't know if like do we have a perception of huge

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culture at dma and does that does it look like that uh that's

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what it looks like to me yeah you guys look like it's okay so we

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do have a lot of competitors i guess big presence might be that

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might be but yeah that's interesting in the competition by the

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way dude like as a guy who's going into like owning a in an academy um it's

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um it's relatively when you look at like the the body of people who come in

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most people aren't competitors yeah well that kind of works out because to be

00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:06.260
honest with you like i like competing um well i do and i don't you know what

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i mean like every time you've been doing it every time Yeah,

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but then every time I sign up, I'm like, why am I doing this? Yeah, like...

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I think down the road, I'll probably like have some competitor focus,

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but that's really not the, I just think jujitsu is like awesome.

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Um, and I think like coming from like the fitness background,

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like there's like way too many people not to trash like Goggins and Jocko who

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are like, you got to suffer and it sucks. And I'm like, you can suffer and it's still fun.

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Like I've like, like me and Nate Marsh have had just like some insane rounds

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that we've dubbed like wars.

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Yeah. Just, we're not, just, we're just like being idiots. Like we're not holding any position.

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We're just trying to like scramble as hard as humanly possible um and i feel

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awful at the end of that but i was like man that was a blast you know i mean

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like i like i think the perception around like hard work has to like be like

00:21:52.900 --> 00:21:56.740
miserable kind of sucks so i'd rather just like that's kind of the focus for

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lariat to start it's just like these classes are gonna be hard but.

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We're gonna be like goofy and have fun too like i just don't want everyone to come in and be like,

00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:06.040
well and so that's that's the thing with the competitor thing right like i

00:22:06.040 --> 00:22:08.800
i i i like your gratitude on

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all of it because like i guess for us it sort of happened naturally

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yeah we didn't force any of that like just people

00:22:15.520 --> 00:22:18.540
wanted to do it yeah people wanted to compete there were guys competing i

00:22:18.540 --> 00:22:21.360
was competing like you know we had enough i think folks doing it

00:22:21.360 --> 00:22:24.100
the others were like maybe i want to do that too so i think it kind of

00:22:24.100 --> 00:22:26.900
happening naturally is like a it's a good way to do it

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like let people like opt in to wanting to

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do that but like the culture can be what you just said which is

00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:35.520
a good environment for sort of like choose your adventure yeah

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and to the person coming in yeah sometimes sometimes that

00:22:38.320 --> 00:22:41.960
too like one person coming in in

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or like a couple people that are just

00:22:45.100 --> 00:22:51.000
competition minded like people that you get people that were competitive you

00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:54.160
know they were wrestlers in college or things like that those people come into

00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:58.460
the gym and they just kind of naturally gravitate towards it and then other

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people start to kind of congregate into that and like you said, it naturally occurs.

00:23:03.080 --> 00:23:08.000
Like it doesn't, um, you don't have to create a competition focus the.

00:23:08.539 --> 00:23:11.499
Competitors will naturally create that environment for

00:23:11.499 --> 00:23:14.499
themselves yeah agreed yeah um you

00:23:14.499 --> 00:23:18.339
know dude high noon's funny i swear like eight eight

00:23:18.339 --> 00:23:21.739
percent of the people who are like competitor level competed high noon like

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the room is rough every single day and then like we just like can't get half

00:23:26.719 --> 00:23:31.419
of them to compete like it's kind of insane um but yeah i mean i got the same

00:23:31.419 --> 00:23:35.799
act like because tim's whole thing is like whistle while you work like me and

00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:38.039
tim talk crazy shit to each other,

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Even if we're not rolling with like mid comp class, I'll be rolling with someone,

00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:44.199
he's rolling with someone else and we're talking shit like across the room.

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Like that's the kind of vibe I like because it's like, what's the,

00:23:47.099 --> 00:23:48.779
what's the point of being like super mid?

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Like I've had bad days obviously, but that's not because like I didn't think training was fun.

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It's because like I either had a bad day or I got my ass kicked really bad and

00:23:54.999 --> 00:23:56.459
I was like, that kind of sucked.

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But like, what's the point of being miserable while you're doing something that

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is like super physically hard, you know?

00:24:01.699 --> 00:24:04.719
I like that. Well, okay. Let's talk about that. Okay.

00:24:04.819 --> 00:24:08.659
Tell me more. tell me more about the uh because as from

00:24:08.659 --> 00:24:12.059
an observer's perspective and like i've like i said i've known you but you have

00:24:12.059 --> 00:24:14.539
begun competing like you've you've developed a ton man you've been successful

00:24:14.539 --> 00:24:17.759
in competitions yeah and it's you've been in this community where that's like

00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:23.159
that's the culture yeah yeah man um yeah i don't know i like um i think like

00:24:23.159 --> 00:24:25.999
the like the vibe at high noon is like really special i think that's really

00:24:25.999 --> 00:24:27.179
why i like stuck there like there's,

00:24:27.979 --> 00:24:30.999
a lot of the gyms in the area have like really good dudes like

00:24:30.999 --> 00:24:33.679
like muhammad ali has a gym like 10 minutes from high

00:24:33.679 --> 00:24:36.419
noon you know what i mean but like the the vibe at high noon and like

00:24:36.419 --> 00:24:39.739
just the the culture there and just like the

00:24:39.739 --> 00:24:43.019
people that have like gravitated towards that i've just found like very appealing

00:24:43.019 --> 00:24:45.779
like i spent a bunch of time with them i made a bunch of ton like a ton of like

00:24:45.779 --> 00:24:49.119
really close friends uh my fiance's made friends with people she doesn't even

00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.339
train and she's like close friends with a bunch of people there um i just like

00:24:53.339 --> 00:24:57.679
hope i can kind of replicate that vibe at lariat same way just because that's

00:24:57.679 --> 00:25:02.059
the the kind of place i want that's like kind of always even when I was like a personal trainer,

00:25:02.179 --> 00:25:05.179
I went in my own gym where I kind of set the rules and everyone just kind of

00:25:05.179 --> 00:25:08.179
have a good time while also doing something hard and that's like good for you.

00:25:08.339 --> 00:25:09.959
You know, that's the culture, man. It's good culture.

00:25:10.339 --> 00:25:12.319
Don't be afraid to protect that culture. You're going to have to.

00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:16.039
No. Yeah. I've, yeah, we've had to kick people out. I'm sure you guys have to.

00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:20.319
Yeah. And like, you know, that's, um, that's the stuff I'm the most like worried about, I guess.

00:25:20.399 --> 00:25:22.979
Cause I'm like, not the most like assertive person, but you know,

00:25:23.019 --> 00:25:24.719
it is what it is. I'll do, I'll do what I got to do.

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:29.539
I'm sure when it's my business on the line I'll be like alright dude that's right.

00:25:30.819 --> 00:25:36.319
Yeah you know I tend to forget that I'm like not small and have fought and like,

00:25:37.019 --> 00:25:41.919
probably gonna be fine because I'm just always rolling with dudes who can like

00:25:41.919 --> 00:25:44.199
beat the shit out of me so I'm just like am I.

00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:49.539
You're set to like yo let's make this fun yeah so whenever it's a gear shift

00:25:49.539 --> 00:25:50.699
whenever someone comes in there

00:25:50.699 --> 00:25:54.359
and like kind of messes that up I'm like bro don't make me do this on.

00:25:54.699 --> 00:25:56.699
Nothing is worse than when you're like.

00:25:57.575 --> 00:25:59.475
You've been out for a little bit and you come back and you're like,

00:25:59.575 --> 00:26:03.935
I can't wait to train. And then just like some like asshole shows up at an open

00:26:03.935 --> 00:26:07.295
mat and you're like, bro, I thought, I thought today was going to be going to

00:26:07.295 --> 00:26:08.875
make me regular. Now we got to deal with this.

00:26:09.675 --> 00:26:13.415
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I'm like overall, I'm like really excited.

00:26:13.635 --> 00:26:18.195
Uh, I'm like beyond grateful for everything like Tim and Maya especially have done for me.

00:26:18.475 --> 00:26:21.575
Um, more than I could. I mean, I came to them telling them that like,

00:26:21.675 --> 00:26:23.715
I was probably going to open my own gym at some point. Like that was my goal.

00:26:23.815 --> 00:26:24.715
And they were like, all right, cool.

00:26:24.855 --> 00:26:27.615
So we'll focus on that as you're here, which i think is

00:26:27.615 --> 00:26:30.775
awesome because they didn't really know me back then you know they like knew me

00:26:30.775 --> 00:26:34.435
kind of because i showed up at open mats but they really like uh offered a

00:26:34.435 --> 00:26:37.335
helping hand like i can't shout them out enough you know yeah shout them out yeah

00:26:37.335 --> 00:26:40.815
shout them out more tim and maya tim and maya tim and maya

00:26:40.815 --> 00:26:43.675
shout out to tim and maya well and that that's cool

00:26:43.675 --> 00:26:46.715
too i mean it's good having people that want to

00:26:46.715 --> 00:26:49.595
facilitate your growth and not just have you as a growth

00:26:49.595 --> 00:26:52.815
tool for themselves i mean obviously they want to be successful but

00:26:52.815 --> 00:26:55.635
knowing that like hey you can help us be successful but

00:26:55.635 --> 00:26:58.615
we want you to succeed in whatever realm you want to be successful

00:26:58.615 --> 00:27:01.255
in as well like that's always good having those people in

00:27:01.255 --> 00:27:04.635
your corner so and that's the way to do it too like you you were explicit

00:27:04.635 --> 00:27:07.695
you're like yo this is here are my goals and they were like yo man let's do

00:27:07.695 --> 00:27:10.895
it because i can tell you from personal experience i've known people who have

00:27:10.895 --> 00:27:14.575
not done that it happens all the time which is like it's such a weird way to

00:27:14.575 --> 00:27:17.695
handle it yeah like you show up and you're like all right yeah yeah like i'm

00:27:17.695 --> 00:27:21.375
gonna ski i'm gonna stab everyone in the back Like the moment I'm ready.

00:27:21.555 --> 00:27:23.355
Let's burn as many bridges as possible. Why? Like.

00:27:23.815 --> 00:27:25.275
It's silly. It's so weird. It's

00:27:25.275 --> 00:27:28.555
like a weird competitor mindset where I'm like, dude, jujitsu is like.

00:27:29.317 --> 00:27:32.417
I guess it's not as niche anymore, but I'm like, it's niche enough that like,

00:27:32.537 --> 00:27:37.537
you'll probably, there'll be enough people to like populate your gym, dude. It's okay.

00:27:38.177 --> 00:27:42.237
Yeah. It's made it enough into the mainstream that you can find people.

00:27:42.497 --> 00:27:46.797
But, uh, yeah, I mean like that is, it is super like skeevy to do that too.

00:27:46.957 --> 00:27:52.157
Cause to like come in and just not tell anyone that you're planning on opening a gym.

00:27:52.317 --> 00:27:57.797
Like that's cause, and then, and then act like the other person's the weirdo for not,

00:27:57.797 --> 00:28:00.477
not supporting that it's like dude i didn't know you

00:28:00.477 --> 00:28:03.257
were going to do this and people talk right so like there's

00:28:03.257 --> 00:28:05.997
enough like like you won like you said there's enough people your business can

00:28:05.997 --> 00:28:09.537
succeed yeah for sure but that but i flipping

00:28:09.537 --> 00:28:12.497
it around it's also the community of like the like the the

00:28:12.497 --> 00:28:15.977
the leaders in the community the people who own businesses like they all talk

00:28:15.977 --> 00:28:20.617
too so like your reputation will get around i don't own a business i'm not like

00:28:20.617 --> 00:28:25.297
a leader i guess i own a business you do i do now and you are but like but like

00:28:25.297 --> 00:28:29.457
i hear about this stuff you know what i mean and I like try to stay out of like

00:28:29.457 --> 00:28:31.877
bullshit, like cross gym drama as much as I can.

00:28:31.977 --> 00:28:35.317
So it's like, dude, like I'm not saying you have to like just get along with

00:28:35.317 --> 00:28:39.377
everybody, but like, there's no reason you can't be like cordial and cool, man. Like, why not?

00:28:39.497 --> 00:28:43.397
Like, yeah, you're, you're walking around and like you're visiting one gym and

00:28:43.397 --> 00:28:45.677
like, well, you can't talk to these guys at this gym.

00:28:45.757 --> 00:28:49.677
Cause I don't, if you want to come train, it's like, dude, like I don't want to be involved in this.

00:28:50.717 --> 00:28:53.777
That is the cool thing. Like I've like, there are gyms in this area that like

00:28:53.777 --> 00:28:55.977
are kind of like that, but for the most part, not really like,

00:28:56.237 --> 00:28:57.237
you know, Like, you're cool with Tim.

00:28:57.417 --> 00:28:59.897
Tim's really cool with Sean from Silverback. Like, we go and train there sometimes.

00:28:59.957 --> 00:29:00.897
They come and train with us.

00:29:01.537 --> 00:29:03.937
Like, Cam rolls in on Sundays a bunch. We train with him real hard.

00:29:04.057 --> 00:29:05.997
It's like, just... That's the culture.

00:29:06.117 --> 00:29:09.657
Also, why not? And then, like, you know, look, if we fight each other in a... No, hold on, not fight.

00:29:10.457 --> 00:29:13.597
I hate... Oh, you said it. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.

00:29:14.677 --> 00:29:17.477
But, like, yeah, if we have a match, like, all right. Big deal.

00:29:17.577 --> 00:29:20.577
Cool. And then if you beat me, I'll probably just go way too hard with you next

00:29:20.577 --> 00:29:22.237
time you show up in the room. Like, it is what it is.

00:29:23.697 --> 00:29:27.057
Yeah like it's just not that big a deal and then like we're always

00:29:27.057 --> 00:29:29.937
gonna like cheer for each other when we're at like big tournaments anyway so like

00:29:29.937 --> 00:29:32.697
might as well just train together you know thousand percent yeah but again

00:29:32.697 --> 00:29:36.377
like credit to tim again that's kind of always been his attitude like what's

00:29:36.377 --> 00:29:40.377
the point even like um like i've got to stand standard guys have never made

00:29:40.377 --> 00:29:43.677
me pay to go and train there you know like i just show up i train everyone's

00:29:43.677 --> 00:29:48.197
cool they value that too they value people coming to visit yeah and they like

00:29:48.197 --> 00:29:50.097
they want to be able to go visit other people too Yeah.

00:29:50.317 --> 00:29:52.477
So like, yeah, it's, yeah, it's good leadership.

00:29:53.037 --> 00:29:56.477
Ultimately it makes everybody better. Like you're not going to get better just

00:29:56.477 --> 00:29:59.037
training with the same people every day.

00:29:59.357 --> 00:30:02.097
I mean, you'll still, you'll get better, but you're not gonna get quite as good

00:30:02.097 --> 00:30:05.497
when, as seeing all these different looks and training with other people.

00:30:05.717 --> 00:30:09.677
And you know, sometimes man, it's nice to go with like other people around your

00:30:09.677 --> 00:30:11.517
skill level that don't train with you every day.

00:30:11.677 --> 00:30:14.817
Cause then otherwise you get like people who are like newer than you or like,

00:30:15.137 --> 00:30:16.917
you know, probably a little bit low skill level. They start catching you and

00:30:16.917 --> 00:30:19.097
stuff cause they know everything you do. And then you're sitting there and you're like.

00:30:21.291 --> 00:30:24.171
They're getting better. And you're showing them all your moves.

00:30:24.411 --> 00:30:27.111
Yeah, dude. So it's like, they should get better. We were doing a bunch of one-minute

00:30:27.111 --> 00:30:30.891
goes the other day, and it was me and Tim, and we had a bunch of blue belts

00:30:30.891 --> 00:30:33.191
in the group, and they all tried to kill me.

00:30:34.411 --> 00:30:37.531
And I had just done rounds with two of them before, and they were not going.

00:30:37.711 --> 00:30:40.411
I didn't have nearly as much of a problem. And then all of a sudden,

00:30:40.491 --> 00:30:42.411
they're behind me. I was taking my back, and I was like, guys,

00:30:42.471 --> 00:30:44.071
guys, guys, guys, you're supposed to let me win.

00:30:44.131 --> 00:30:47.051
What's going on? Yeah, what's going on? When you have a target on your back. Yeah.

00:30:47.351 --> 00:30:51.611
That comes with like a... and your target might get bigger, buddy. Yeah, here we go.

00:30:51.911 --> 00:30:55.731
It's about to get bigger. I was running an open mat the other day and like the

00:30:55.731 --> 00:30:59.531
teenagers decided to shark tank me. I was like, what the fuck is happening?

00:31:00.351 --> 00:31:02.431
Yeah, but that's kind of fun because you're like, let's see how many teenagers

00:31:02.431 --> 00:31:03.991
are going to kill in eight minutes. Oh, dude.

00:31:04.571 --> 00:31:08.711
Turns out I can kill a lot of teenagers. I love rolling with the teenagers that

00:31:08.711 --> 00:31:12.491
are like really good because like they might even have some better technical

00:31:12.491 --> 00:31:15.111
skills than me and then I'm just way stronger. So I'm like, hey,

00:31:15.771 --> 00:31:17.451
I'm an adult. You're going to stop moving.

00:31:17.731 --> 00:31:20.731
Child. not gonna sweep me child yeah i am

00:31:20.731 --> 00:31:23.451
the adult in the room i had the first time i rolled with one

00:31:23.451 --> 00:31:26.391
of them i had one of them logan um he like

00:31:26.391 --> 00:31:30.011
foot swept me as i was trying to throw him and i was like what but then as i

00:31:30.011 --> 00:31:32.831
fell i was like hold on and i just sat up and turned him over because i was

00:31:32.831 --> 00:31:37.171
like no no no no no that was nice but i'm not i'm not letting this happen you

00:31:37.171 --> 00:31:41.651
gotta you gotta give him a little i am a grown ass i'm a grown ass man first

00:31:41.651 --> 00:31:44.551
you take care of business and you're That was actually really good. I was like, damn.

00:31:44.971 --> 00:31:47.211
But no. Also bad, but also good.

00:31:48.371 --> 00:31:51.571
Oh, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. This is just fun.

00:31:51.891 --> 00:31:55.591
So I'm excited to have my own spot. It is a little bittersweet,

00:31:55.591 --> 00:31:58.951
even having one less day teaching the kids at high noon, just because it's become

00:31:58.951 --> 00:32:00.391
such a big part of my life.

00:32:00.891 --> 00:32:03.591
I'm at every tournament coaching them. I'll probably still be there.

00:32:03.591 --> 00:32:05.511
Yeah. I'll still be at every tournament coaching them.

00:32:06.811 --> 00:32:11.051
Yeah, it's exciting, but you know. It's exciting. And they'll be right there.

00:32:11.331 --> 00:32:14.071
Yeah, it's like a few minutes. there you'll i mean you're gonna want to you're gonna want to like pop

00:32:14.071 --> 00:32:16.871
over there and be like what's going on at high noon you're gonna pop over there and say what

00:32:16.871 --> 00:32:19.571
up train yeah and i mean our goal is to

00:32:19.571 --> 00:32:22.451
like still be connected in like some way have people from high

00:32:22.451 --> 00:32:25.451
noon come visit lariat have lariat come visit high noon and

00:32:25.451 --> 00:32:28.351
for i think for for those who don't know okay let's talk

00:32:28.351 --> 00:32:31.311
about the word lariat because that's a cowboy hat right all

00:32:31.311 --> 00:32:34.151
right no so it's um it's the rope you use to lasso excuse

00:32:34.151 --> 00:32:37.211
me yeah there you go i had to look this up because lasso i

00:32:37.211 --> 00:32:40.091
guess people call it a lasso but lasso's like the action yes

00:32:40.091 --> 00:32:42.791
the action so lariat's like the actual rope and i just i

00:32:42.791 --> 00:32:45.471
wanted it to be like somewhat related to the

00:32:45.471 --> 00:32:48.191
western although technically high noon is from like a

00:32:48.191 --> 00:32:51.851
movie i just don't remember what movie well i i associate it with like i mean

00:32:51.851 --> 00:32:55.371
it's like a cow yeah they draw at high noon they shoot each other yeah so like

00:32:55.371 --> 00:32:59.691
we have like a dead i know that they fought i think there is a movie called

00:32:59.691 --> 00:33:02.751
high noon it might even be that movie um but i wanted to keep a western thing

00:33:02.751 --> 00:33:07.491
like uh and i'm taking credit for this idea so at one point people started um.

00:33:08.333 --> 00:33:12.033
I think it was one of the Orlando ADCCs. We had some of our like white belt girls competing.

00:33:12.393 --> 00:33:15.153
And I'd always been joking about how I just hadn't gotten a chance to get a

00:33:15.153 --> 00:33:18.433
first place medal yet under high noon, how I wanted to wear like a cowboy hat as first place.

00:33:18.633 --> 00:33:21.213
So we made her do it. And then it just turned into a thing that we kept making

00:33:21.213 --> 00:33:24.273
people like wear the cowboy hat at first place.

00:33:24.613 --> 00:33:27.553
That's awesome. Yeah. That was just kind of hilarious. Keep doing that.

00:33:27.613 --> 00:33:30.273
That rules. No, it was so fun. I remember the, the, I'm jealous.

00:33:30.373 --> 00:33:33.393
I want to wear a cowboy hat. The, the, the, the lady who did it first,

00:33:33.733 --> 00:33:36.073
Steph, um, she was like, well, you got to do it.

00:33:36.133 --> 00:33:41.153
And I was like, I'm trying. I was like, I'm not losing in the finals on purpose.

00:33:42.053 --> 00:33:44.633
Come on now. It's just kind of hard when the other guy doesn't want,

00:33:44.693 --> 00:33:48.153
he gets a vote too. Yeah, it's kind of hard when you're like fighting somebody.

00:33:49.333 --> 00:33:51.913
But yeah, so I wanted to keep it Western themed. I was having trouble,

00:33:52.473 --> 00:33:57.493
like thinking of something that wasn't terrible. We jumped on ChatGBT.

00:33:58.113 --> 00:34:01.493
That was awesome. Like they were bad. Like I've, those were bad.

00:34:02.433 --> 00:34:03.853
I was like getting close to like.

00:34:04.873 --> 00:34:07.813
We've trashed on AI a bunch of times. Yeah, dude. Oh, man. like i

00:34:07.813 --> 00:34:10.613
mean like it's coming it's been i'm not impressed yet but i'm sure i'm

00:34:10.613 --> 00:34:13.473
sure it'll be one day soon it's helpful when you're

00:34:13.473 --> 00:34:16.333
trying to look up like just like facts about

00:34:16.333 --> 00:34:19.213
things well i was gonna say you might really like it when you have to start doing some business

00:34:19.213 --> 00:34:22.033
i already know i need you to build me a business i already

00:34:22.033 --> 00:34:24.873
like it for the business but then i was like anything creative is

00:34:24.873 --> 00:34:27.593
so bad yeah we we've talked about it it's like you have

00:34:27.593 --> 00:34:30.953
to be really good at your queries like you're really specific you'd

00:34:30.953 --> 00:34:33.793
be like really specific and you have to kind of

00:34:33.793 --> 00:34:36.473
know where you want to end up yeah because i remember i

00:34:36.473 --> 00:34:39.293
was like i would just like use like things like fun and

00:34:39.293 --> 00:34:42.233
cool and they start putting fun and cool in the name and i was like no dude

00:34:42.233 --> 00:34:46.633
this is the worst thing uh so i got close to like quick draw at one point and

00:34:46.633 --> 00:34:50.413
then maya came to me and she was like what about lariat and i was like what's

00:34:50.413 --> 00:34:54.433
a lariat and then we like i just kind of ran with another shout out to maya

00:34:54.433 --> 00:34:57.693
another shout out to my she said she should have like copyrighted maybe pay.

00:34:58.944 --> 00:35:04.264
Too late for that too late haha she's like I'm gonna buy all the domains I like

00:35:04.264 --> 00:35:05.524
Marriott that would have been hilarious,

00:35:06.444 --> 00:35:10.044
Marriott's cool you did a good job that's a good one yeah I think it's fun and

00:35:10.044 --> 00:35:14.204
like it's just like just weird enough for people to be like what is that you know what I mean and,

00:35:14.804 --> 00:35:18.884
Lasso Jiu Jitsu is already a well isn't the logo I can pull up the logo but

00:35:18.884 --> 00:35:22.104
isn't the logo like it's like a dude on a horse like throwing out the it's um

00:35:22.104 --> 00:35:26.564
circle like a circle is the rope and then it says like LJJ okay cause I was

00:35:26.564 --> 00:35:28.184
not gonna call it Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

00:35:28.624 --> 00:35:32.064
oh jiu-jitsu i'm not brazilian yeah

00:35:32.064 --> 00:35:34.964
american jiu-jitsu go full this is

00:35:34.964 --> 00:35:38.004
i mean this that's this that's what you're doing yeah i mean like it's

00:35:38.004 --> 00:35:40.804
very man it's extremely boy yeah it's like i salute you

00:35:40.804 --> 00:35:46.104
dude uh like just go full keen and cornelius there you go there you go we're

00:35:46.104 --> 00:35:50.184
not gonna shy away from american vibes here no man why not yeah hardcore patriots

00:35:50.184 --> 00:35:55.624
yeah um but yeah man so that's kind of where the name came from um and i think

00:35:55.624 --> 00:35:58.804
i could do some funny stuff with it Maybe I'll start lassoing people.

00:35:58.804 --> 00:36:00.744
Dude, when you get shirts and- Dragging them off the mat. Get a tank.

00:36:00.864 --> 00:36:02.704
Dude, I'll buy a tank for you. I want a tank. Oh, we'll get you a tank,

00:36:02.704 --> 00:36:03.664
man. I want a tank, dude. We'll get you a tank.

00:36:03.804 --> 00:36:07.324
I got a, you know. I only wear tanks. I got you, man. I got you.

00:36:07.324 --> 00:36:10.764
All right, dude, please. I want one. I want a Lariat tank. We'll get a Lariat tank.

00:36:10.964 --> 00:36:13.684
Cowboy hat. I didn't know to check what you were wearing. You have to get cowboy

00:36:13.684 --> 00:36:15.164
hats. That's a good point. We do have to use cowboy hats. Maybe you give that

00:36:15.164 --> 00:36:15.544
when you promote people.

00:36:15.984 --> 00:36:19.344
Ooh. Colored cowboy hats. All right. Oh, all right.

00:36:19.884 --> 00:36:22.824
Save it for brown and black. Yeah, brown and black.

00:36:23.924 --> 00:36:27.004
A welcome white. You get a welcome one, and then you get one for brown and black.

00:36:27.264 --> 00:36:28.844
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you could just get a- Blue and purple's wild.

00:36:28.924 --> 00:36:31.684
That would be crazy. It could be a white hat, and then you do the hat bands.

00:36:31.944 --> 00:36:34.804
That's true. You're like the little tassel part. It'd be a little cheaper, too.

00:36:35.144 --> 00:36:38.184
That might be a little less insane than like a blue hat. Yeah,

00:36:38.604 --> 00:36:39.804
there you go. There you go.

00:36:39.964 --> 00:36:43.244
Yeah, because I guess that's an important point. Right now, it is all no-gi.

00:36:43.824 --> 00:36:46.584
Okay, okay. So they're not going to have an actual belt on. Yeah, so

00:36:46.584 --> 00:36:49.684
they probably don't have a belt on i mean look if i gotta give you a belt in

00:36:49.684 --> 00:36:52.604
nogi that's fine that's how you're gonna do it but that might also

00:36:52.604 --> 00:36:55.604
be funnier i'm not gonna give everyone knives yeah i

00:36:55.604 --> 00:36:58.384
mean look it's cool it's cool uh i'm just

00:36:58.384 --> 00:37:01.004
not gonna buy a bunch of knives especially i guess it's sort

00:37:01.004 --> 00:37:04.504
of hand out knives to kids i guess yeah i guess they always get a tough one

00:37:04.504 --> 00:37:07.604
this class you're like here's a full i mean look it's not like naga doesn't

00:37:07.604 --> 00:37:10.404
already do that true every naga you go and

00:37:10.404 --> 00:37:13.184
they're like oh we zip tied the sword and i'm like the kids can open

00:37:13.184 --> 00:37:16.144
a zip tie like i'm like trying to warm up and there's like they're running

00:37:16.144 --> 00:37:18.864
around with an open sword and i'm like how do they get away with that

00:37:18.864 --> 00:37:21.744
this is terrifying yeah i like that they're like but the adults

00:37:21.744 --> 00:37:24.504
can't get swords i'm like all right i want the motherfucking sword yeah i want the sword

00:37:24.504 --> 00:37:27.724
they can they win the they win the ability to

00:37:27.724 --> 00:37:32.584
buy a sword that's true now hold on i have two swords right i don't i don't

00:37:32.584 --> 00:37:36.704
need to win a noggin to buy a samurai sword now i don't know how this happened

00:37:36.704 --> 00:37:40.484
uh i had no when i was teaching at kai's an old student and she was doing adult

00:37:40.484 --> 00:37:43.504
blue belt but i think she did like the absolute in the gear or something and

00:37:43.504 --> 00:37:45.724
then she walked up and she was like just can I have one of those instead and

00:37:45.724 --> 00:37:46.384
they just gave her a sword.

00:37:46.644 --> 00:37:49.164
That's the only time I've seen an adult get a sword and I was like awesome.

00:37:49.164 --> 00:37:51.504
You just have to ask for it. I guess so. Let me get that sword.

00:37:51.684 --> 00:37:54.084
Let's be honest. Is the table worker at Naga really going to be like.

00:37:54.992 --> 00:37:57.912
I mean, maybe, but like, they're probably tired. He's like, I don't give a fuck,

00:37:58.032 --> 00:37:58.812
dude. Yeah, you just take that.

00:37:59.052 --> 00:38:02.092
They don't get paid enough to be like, oh yeah, no, we're really caring about

00:38:02.092 --> 00:38:04.152
who's here. I did this for three registrations.

00:38:04.452 --> 00:38:07.292
They gave me 50 shorts for kids. Dude, speaking of like paid enough and stuff,

00:38:07.392 --> 00:38:09.652
I was at the most recent grappling industries coaching the kids.

00:38:09.812 --> 00:38:12.632
And I was doing New Jersey Open the next day.

00:38:12.792 --> 00:38:14.492
And I knew a bunch of the dudes from Standard were doing it too.

00:38:14.612 --> 00:38:16.512
I get to the grappling industry at 7 a.m.

00:38:16.592 --> 00:38:18.972
They're standing there in ref outfits. I was like, are you guys reffing all

00:38:18.972 --> 00:38:22.552
day and then competing tomorrow? And they're like, yeah, is that a, like, whatever.

00:38:22.912 --> 00:38:25.552
I was like, that should be fine, right? and I was like, I don't know,

00:38:25.672 --> 00:38:28.792
man. You're going to be on your feet for 15 hours. That sounds pretty bad.

00:38:29.232 --> 00:38:32.432
I was like, honestly, that sounds off. Dude, when I went to New Jersey,

00:38:32.692 --> 00:38:36.952
just from being on my feet at the venue for like six hours, I was shot.

00:38:37.092 --> 00:38:41.212
I usually can't sleep before a comp and I don't have any caffeine the day of

00:38:41.212 --> 00:38:44.092
because I'm already pretty amped. I could not stay awake.

00:38:44.712 --> 00:38:47.692
I slammed a monster and then still fell back asleep on the way up.

00:38:48.172 --> 00:38:51.052
In the match, I was like, what am I even doing?

00:38:51.172 --> 00:38:54.232
I was just not awake. that's that competitor grind

00:38:54.232 --> 00:38:57.032
where let's say you're if you're like a full-time competitor and this

00:38:57.032 --> 00:38:59.772
is maybe like some of these guys like they don't have a job

00:38:59.772 --> 00:39:03.012
yeah they're like i gotta get a gig get

00:39:03.012 --> 00:39:06.052
paid a little bit i drove up to jersey or whatever i'm gonna spend whatever

00:39:06.052 --> 00:39:09.212
money on like a hotel and some yeah yeah gas station

00:39:09.212 --> 00:39:12.212
food or something like can i at least make a couple bucks yeah

00:39:12.212 --> 00:39:15.012
look all that's a tough grind man all broke fighters and

00:39:15.012 --> 00:39:17.892
grapplers um gas is expensive but

00:39:17.892 --> 00:39:20.992
uber and uber eats is your friend yeah as as like

00:39:20.992 --> 00:39:23.792
i did dude i i checked the other day especially during like covid

00:39:23.792 --> 00:39:26.572
and then like while i was just like a broke fighter i had like i have

00:39:26.572 --> 00:39:29.352
like 3 500 deliveries on uber eats yeah i

00:39:29.352 --> 00:39:32.292
was like geez i did a lot but yeah dude it's it's like gotta do

00:39:32.292 --> 00:39:35.132
gotta do what you gotta do also like i you know you come home you're like oh

00:39:35.132 --> 00:39:38.872
i'm so tired i was driving around in my car listening to music and podcasts

00:39:38.872 --> 00:39:47.272
dropping food off it's not when i initially started uh got into mma and jiu-jitsu

00:39:47.272 --> 00:39:49.492
full-time so like when my initial.

00:39:50.152 --> 00:39:52.932
Go at it there next door to the gym

00:39:52.932 --> 00:39:55.592
i was training at they had like one of

00:39:55.592 --> 00:39:58.412
those party rental places like the places that do

00:39:58.412 --> 00:40:01.132
like the inflatable stuff so we

00:40:01.132 --> 00:40:04.072
would most of the fighters worked for them

00:40:04.072 --> 00:40:07.472
and so we'd go and like run these like crazy we'd

00:40:07.472 --> 00:40:10.392
go like you know basically run the you know set up set

00:40:10.392 --> 00:40:14.512
up these inflatables or like run like the uh the mechanical

00:40:14.512 --> 00:40:18.132
bowl for like these little carnivals or

00:40:18.132 --> 00:40:24.292
and stuff like that and we would then like clean these things fucking awful

00:40:24.292 --> 00:40:29.112
job but it was you're super active you get paid really well i think they were

00:40:29.112 --> 00:40:35.252
paying us like 35 an hour which is fucking great that's insane um but the job

00:40:35.252 --> 00:40:36.832
was hard as shit and you have to drive around a.

00:40:38.573 --> 00:40:43.253
But then they would also give us, they would have us, instead of flipping tires,

00:40:43.673 --> 00:40:45.393
we would flip the inflatables.

00:40:45.453 --> 00:40:48.673
So they would pull the inflatables out for us, for all the fighters,

00:40:48.693 --> 00:40:51.793
for our conditioning, set them up in the parking lot, and we would just fucking

00:40:51.793 --> 00:40:56.653
flip these giant, those things are heavy as shit, dude. Tractor tires are light comparatively.

00:40:56.973 --> 00:41:02.433
It's fucking crazy. But yeah, that was like the first fighter job I had.

00:41:02.953 --> 00:41:07.993
So I get that. Uber Eats would have been pretty good. I think I hopped on Uber Eats because I like...

00:41:09.033 --> 00:41:11.673
Um i was a personal trainer and then i was like maybe i wanted to

00:41:11.673 --> 00:41:14.293
like do full-time fighting for a little bit but again it was amateur so i

00:41:14.293 --> 00:41:17.013
wasn't making any money off of it um and then i was just like

00:41:17.013 --> 00:41:20.633
what can i do in my free time that doesn't take up at

00:41:20.633 --> 00:41:24.413
least most evenings and like random times

00:41:24.413 --> 00:41:27.253
during the day i got a trainer that just ended up popping up although ironically the

00:41:27.253 --> 00:41:30.533
best time to do uber eats is like when people are hungry lunch and evening but

00:41:30.533 --> 00:41:33.553
you know i ended working out um that was like a lifesaver during

00:41:33.553 --> 00:41:36.433
covid man mainly just didn't have to like be in the house i just like go

00:41:36.433 --> 00:41:39.273
and like move around move around just drop

00:41:39.273 --> 00:41:42.033
off food gas was like a dollar so like the

00:41:42.033 --> 00:41:45.173
return was pretty nice i like that we should

00:41:45.173 --> 00:41:49.853
wrap up soon-ish so he has time to get to get moving yeah

00:41:49.853 --> 00:41:52.693
um any other do you

00:41:52.693 --> 00:41:55.673
have do you have any other do you have any things coming up outside of your

00:41:55.673 --> 00:41:59.953
gym opening up um i'm doing some it's like legacy submission grappling series

00:41:59.953 --> 00:42:07.013
up in maryland in like three weeks it's like a 16 man cji rules but no pit bracket

00:42:07.013 --> 00:42:12.433
um i'm a little bummed about no pit but it is what it is uh i like the three by fives like i um.

00:42:13.520 --> 00:42:17.380
I never know how I feel about scoring in jiu-jitsu. It's always fucked up.

00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.280
I kind of like, and I understand when you get judges and subjective scoring

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.640
can be a little funky. But I kind of like the no points.

00:42:24.580 --> 00:42:28.720
And if it's a close match on points, it's a close match with judges.

00:42:28.720 --> 00:42:30.120
It's always going to be a little dicey.

00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.240
But with no points, you fall down, you get knocked over, whatever.

00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.240
As long as you're kind of whooping the other dude, you'll probably get the nod.

00:42:37.420 --> 00:42:40.460
So I kind of like that. So I like the idea of just like 10 nines.

00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.900
Does any part of you want to say you like the IBJF scoring? I don't hate it.

00:42:45.060 --> 00:42:46.220
I don't hate it either. I don't hate it.

00:42:46.520 --> 00:42:52.100
If it's actually done the way it's supposed to be done, just do it the way it's written.

00:42:52.120 --> 00:42:55.060
It's not a bad format. If it was implemented correctly.

00:42:55.420 --> 00:42:58.760
Implemented correctly being the key. It wouldn't be bad. Yeah. You know?

00:42:59.140 --> 00:43:03.380
However, there's a lot of weird advantages and points getting thrown out here

00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:05.480
and there where you're like, I don't know how this works.

00:43:05.520 --> 00:43:10.000
I do not like the advantages portion of it, but like, as far as a general,

00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.420
scoring system is not too bad.

00:43:12.580 --> 00:43:14.940
However, I do think you should, there's things I think you should get points

00:43:14.940 --> 00:43:16.920
for that they don't have, but that's fine.

00:43:17.200 --> 00:43:20.320
We won't go into that. I think the advantage thing is pretty funny because like,

00:43:21.200 --> 00:43:22.980
look, I make a lot of faces when I'm rolling.

00:43:23.080 --> 00:43:25.780
If you get close to a sub, I'm going to be like, so they're going to get an

00:43:25.780 --> 00:43:27.860
advantage for it. Where then like, if I go and you're just like,

00:43:28.720 --> 00:43:31.720
the ref's going to be like, I don't know. No advantage. Didn't look like it was close.

00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.840
He obviously wasn't worried. I didn't look hurt. Ankle, like in New Jersey,

00:43:35.040 --> 00:43:37.320
I mean, this was not like, this was not even a real submission.

00:43:37.380 --> 00:43:38.520
I just went for like a random Estima.

00:43:40.460 --> 00:43:40.800
That way.

00:43:41.859 --> 00:43:45.739
No advantage for me. Because he just laughed. They were just like,

00:43:45.799 --> 00:43:48.739
advantage for him. You obviously were close to being submitted, sir. You were scared.

00:43:49.899 --> 00:43:52.599
It's like a weird pain tolerance. Yeah, I don't know what happened there,

00:43:52.659 --> 00:43:56.499
dude. Because I didn't tap to that, but then I got a knee bar and it was like a immediate tap.

00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.339
But you had already broken his leg. I guess so. Well, then he got up and walked

00:44:00.339 --> 00:44:03.099
and I was like, what is going on? Dude, it was insane. I remember.

00:44:03.299 --> 00:44:04.319
You just have a lot of air in there.

00:44:05.379 --> 00:44:10.339
Dude, I have air ankle pops. This was like. And I was like, okay.

00:44:10.339 --> 00:44:12.739
Oh, I did something. Are you good?

00:44:12.979 --> 00:44:15.939
Maybe it's like RJ just doesn't care about his limbs.

00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.559
I mean, look, I don't tap the leg locks. Look, I used to just let my ankles

00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.019
just like explode in ankle locks.

00:44:22.179 --> 00:44:25.439
Like I remember I did one of the oldest like PGF trials.

00:44:25.619 --> 00:44:28.759
Like back in the day, it was like PGF like three or four. I drove down to Alabama.

00:44:29.399 --> 00:44:33.139
Second guy, second match, dude staring at me, doing like heel hook grips from

00:44:33.139 --> 00:44:35.279
across the mat just to his own forearms and looking at me.

00:44:35.379 --> 00:44:36.919
And I was like, this guy. I wonder what he's going to go for.

00:44:36.939 --> 00:44:37.719
This guy's very strange.

00:44:38.179 --> 00:44:41.879
And he just rips an ankle lock. and my ankle pops and I'm like, well, I'm already here.

00:44:42.139 --> 00:44:45.479
So I just let him crank on it until I got like my own heel. But I was afterwards,

00:44:45.699 --> 00:44:48.159
my ankle was pretty fucked up. Yeah.

00:44:49.879 --> 00:44:53.719
All right. Where can we find Larry at? So it's Larry at Jiu Jitsu on Instagram.

00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.279
It's Larry at JJ.com for the website.

00:44:57.819 --> 00:44:58.979
And that's about it right now.

00:44:59.299 --> 00:45:02.259
If you want to sign up, go to the website or just hit me up and DM me.

00:45:02.359 --> 00:45:05.699
I'll send you the links either on the Larry at Jiu Jitsu. Well,

00:45:05.779 --> 00:45:09.039
probably preferably on a Larry at Jiu Jitsu Instagram. But if you message me on mine.

00:45:09.619 --> 00:45:12.979
And what's yours grappler pj cool so

00:45:12.979 --> 00:45:15.879
we'll put all those in the in the show notes too so you guys can

00:45:15.879 --> 00:45:18.959
very easily copy and paste as well so awesome

00:45:18.959 --> 00:45:24.339
man yeah i'm i'm excited i'm excited it's been like you know i get nervous pretty

00:45:24.339 --> 00:45:26.819
easily so i've been like a little freaked out about it but i think i think it'll

00:45:26.819 --> 00:45:30.339
go well i'm like looking forward to like teaching adults again getting my own

00:45:30.339 --> 00:45:34.479
thing going and then again like down the road having like my own like comp team

00:45:34.479 --> 00:45:38.519
i can travel with because i do i love coaching like i get nervous for coaching but like,

00:45:39.459 --> 00:45:44.119
Never have I gone to like a tournament all day and coached and been like, I regretted doing that.

00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:48.419
Yeah, I love like, that's so much fun for me. Win or lose, just having them like go out and like.

00:45:49.295 --> 00:45:51.635
Like watch people do what we've worked on and stuff. You're going to do awesome,

00:45:51.635 --> 00:45:57.195
man. So before we fully wrap up here, that gives me a question.

00:45:57.675 --> 00:46:03.295
Are you more excited about one of your students winning or like if you win something

00:46:03.295 --> 00:46:06.495
huge, like which one is like peak for you?

00:46:06.935 --> 00:46:09.715
Probably students winning, man. That's what I thought you were going to say.

00:46:10.095 --> 00:46:14.295
Yeah, I like even like this tournament coming up, I could like win $1,000 and

00:46:14.295 --> 00:46:17.675
I bet that if I won, I'll probably just be like deadpan,

00:46:18.115 --> 00:46:22.155
upset about how I did it like that's me pretty much every time I win a match

00:46:22.155 --> 00:46:26.675
I'm never satisfied that sucked or just like overly negative who knows but I'm

00:46:26.675 --> 00:46:29.135
just like oh that sucked and then I watch it back and I was like all right maybe

00:46:29.135 --> 00:46:33.355
maybe it was fine yeah uh yeah man I just like watching other people succeed

00:46:33.355 --> 00:46:37.575
and stuff um and it's cool too like watching someone like.

00:46:38.155 --> 00:46:40.815
Do something in the room and you're like not sure how it goes and the other

00:46:40.815 --> 00:46:43.695
go out and they just like perform really well I think that's always awesome to see yeah

00:46:43.695 --> 00:46:46.755
yeah awesome awesome man cool

00:46:46.755 --> 00:46:49.855
thank you caleb for coming out that was fighters drinking

00:46:49.855 --> 00:46:52.675
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00:46:52.675 --> 00:46:55.755
the ways to find him we'll have the lariat

00:46:55.755 --> 00:46:58.955
jujitsu instagram and the website

00:46:58.955 --> 00:47:01.835
in the show notes here uh and remember that'll

00:47:01.835 --> 00:47:04.435
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00:47:04.435 --> 00:47:07.415
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00:47:07.415 --> 00:47:10.295
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00:47:10.295 --> 00:47:13.515
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00:47:16.575 --> 00:47:19.655
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00:47:19.655 --> 00:47:22.775
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00:47:22.775 --> 00:47:26.475
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00:47:26.475 --> 00:47:31.035
can also join our discord in the show notes uh scott where can they find you

00:47:31.035 --> 00:47:38.435
oh at scott dance bjj on instagram and you can get me at get sudsy on instagram

00:47:38.435 --> 00:47:43.295
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00:47:43.295 --> 00:47:44.835
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00:47:46.035 --> 00:47:47.755
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00:47:49.175 --> 00:47:52.935
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00:47:52.935 --> 00:47:59.415
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00:48:04.675 --> 00:48:05.455
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