(Ep 10) The Art of Cross-Training in Jiu-Jitsu

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee.

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We've been talking a lot recently about training, kind of competition mindset

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and preparation for competitions.

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And actually, this morning, we had a really diverse group of people at training

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from a bunch of different academies.

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Um some new people haven't been in that room

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with us uh in the past and so and

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some people they've been newly coming on a higher frequency so

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i thought it might be good to talk about some cross training and kind

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of get into um benefits downsides

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maybe i don't know like see kind of where it goes but um but

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yeah we had some good uh it

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was a good training and some pretty good names in there too um it

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was a really good group of guys and like we had we had cameron

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heard there today um so you know

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we had had this like these varying levels a

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lot of people who compete in super fights we have people who don't so

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like um maybe we kind of get into what

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what's your what's your thought process on dude like yeah like you

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said like um big group today for

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8 a.m training on a saturday which is always cool to see because not that many

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people want to come in at 8 a.m on a on a saturday morning which means friday

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night you should be going to bed kind of early and then waking up not like 10

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minutes before you you train so it just mandates a certain.

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Prioritization of training and and that for the athlete if that said that's

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kind of said something about who they are and like what they what they value

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but um but yeah dude it was it was really good and now we've got guys coming

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in from guys and gals coming in from from beta via the um,

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you know the relationship and networking we have with nakapan and his group

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of guys which are great like you said cam swing throughs down at silverback

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i think i don't know they go by ascend now there is sin now okay okay um but

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that crew good dude he he's,

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He's a pro-level grappler, competes all over, all time, very disciplined.

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It's always awesome to have someone who holds himself to a certain professional

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standard, comes in, and this was immediately a good fit in the group.

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And a bunch of other dudes. Casey brought in a buddy of his who's got a slick, also a diverse style.

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He's got a very bendy guard. That's a different look, too, than what a lot of

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the other people in the room is.

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Very different look, which is very cool. Totally, man. Yeah, to that point, right?

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It was awesome having Cam. cam cam has a pretty pretty similar style to like

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myself and a lot of the guys at dma who like to wrestle a lot um he's capable

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of doing a lot of things really well don't get me wrong but,

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there's like a certain consistency there and there's awesome training

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even to have somebody who does that a little bit differently he has his way of

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of how he attacks but to have a dude like his

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name's tim yeah um who who presents a different

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like that's that's so valuable right because we're all myself cam

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like all of us who like have our style we need to see those other

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version because those dudes are out there yeah guys are out there

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in tournaments man like you're gonna see these like bendy flexible complex

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like really good guard players um dudes

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who just bring a different variation to the game of jiu-jitsu

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so yeah like point being it's nice um having that that unique look when you're

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on the mat um to the point of like cross training i think like one of the biggest

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and best things about it is that you know when you're when you're all of us

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have like an HQ with like our main place that we train.

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And that's obviously super important too, because you need that continuity.

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You need like your home base. You need your coaching.

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You need like the guys who've been with you for a long time.

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You know, like what path you're on and kind of keep steering you towards that.

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Yeah. They, they keep you kind of pushing in the direction.

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Um, and they, they're, yeah, they're guiding you. Yeah. They're guiding you.

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And like, and like, you know, if you have like a head coach,

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um, who's, who's steering,

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helping steer you in your career in a certain direction um

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they just they know big picture what you're trying to

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do and and they can bring in or introduce different

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unseen elements like a cross training uh

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scenario to continue to force adaptation and skill development against unique

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looks because like you mean again like cam or gina who came over from beta like

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they cam's first time coming in here he knows me and he's he's met he knows

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a couple of the guys i think he knows noah,

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wrestlers like they they all they all kind of know each other but um he knows

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a few dudes and he's been around a lot of dma guys um so like i mean there's

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like a comfort i think to that but he doesn't know our styles like super well

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sheena's the same way she's she's at a beta and um,

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she comes in uh also like super valuable for andrew to have no like high level

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good like competitive athlete female who she can get some work with too but

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my i bring them up because like they're coming in to visit us.

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They're going to have that, what would you call it? Sort of like.

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There's like a, the word, the phrase that comes to mind for me is like stress

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inoculation. I don't know if that's the best way to say it, but where like they

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have to go into like an, a newer environment and face people they don't know

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and therefore have to like problem solve.

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Like, I mean, I know most everyone in the room. I don't know them that well,

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actually. So that's kind of, that gives me as, as a guy in my own home base,

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the opportunity to see some different people too.

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And a little bit of that is, is transferable to me, but for the most part,

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the rest of the room or guys that I know really well, gals that I know really well.

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And anyways, like as an aside, like you can do that and have that continuity,

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but then like introduce new variables. That's why we do these situational trainings.

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So it's not always the same thing. Like it's not always me trying to just take

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guys and gals that I know and force them into the same habits over and over again that we might get.

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And do my move that I like to do for exposition. Yeah, exactly, man.

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So like, well, that's why we do those scenarios. So we can mix things up and

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like everyone gets a unique read, even if it's someone you know really well.

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But um again putting it back on the the dudes who

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came to visit us they get to they get

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to have like almost like a mini i call it a mini like

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comp experience like i'm gonna go into a new place i'm gonna compete against

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or compete you know like work work my game with people

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i don't really know so it's a good way to keep that like um discovery

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of the unknown process which is what you get

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when you go compete um and that's i

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think it's like a really healthy exercise and that's like in a lot

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of ways the one of the best things about across training

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culture that's that's that's valuable

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yeah you get a little bit of that um and like i

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get on a smaller scale when i come train with uh over at dma with you because

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you know you've known us for so long yeah and you've been coming in for months

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now so yeah like there's like yeah you're shrinking down now but like there's

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you get that it's new people and so like yeah you get um you almost get this like.

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It's like a safe safe space

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like you have it's safe because like you've been invited there like you

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know these you know someone there right like sometimes uh

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but like in this specific scenario like you know a lot of the guys you know

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somebody you're coming in and like you get

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you get kind of this like safe space to test stuff

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out against someone who doesn't really know your game and so

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like you get to see some of what

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works and what doesn't against different style

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because like you get it against you don't know what that person does

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and so like you can kind of cheat in the gym at

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your own at your head at your headquarters sometimes because you

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know what your usual training partners like

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to do especially in so that way

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you're not designing your game around what about

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capitalizing on a known factor you start to get

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some of the unknown factor and you get to really like figure out

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new or the way to implement your game with like

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that unknown that surprise that a little

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bit of that like stress of not knowing

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somebody and so it makes a big difference i try to

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go whenever i'm in another town or city and

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like do that into somewhere even for just like an open mat or an hour like dude

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it helps it helps a lot man because like you said like i mean if you're in a

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lot of ways i think this is kind of or it can be for anybody duh but it is oriented

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towards someone who's trying to like be a successful competitor because.

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That's all competitions really are it's like you're going to go out onto i guess

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a neutral mat space go against guys you may know some of them that happens that

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happens quite a bit actually but in most cases it's going to be against people

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you've never you never rolled against.

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And um you know you know they're matched up in your division based on skill

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level like it should be an appropriate like balanced match against a i should

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say against a balanced competitor but um a qualified balanced competitor but

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you don't know what they're going to do yeah you can look stuff up. You can study tape.

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You can like, there's, there's quite a bit of homework you can do,

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but still nonetheless, even with all that, it's like, you're gonna have to go

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out and deal with that in the moment.

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So that exercise of, like you said, showing up and being like, all right, like.

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Kind of have an idea of what this person does, but I've never experienced it

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before. I'm not on my home turf.

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Like, all right, this is, in a lot of ways, it resembles the experience of going

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out and competing. So I think that, to me, is, like, a big thing.

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I think that helps those guys who are, and by the way, like,

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all, you know, Cam and Gina both, they competed, like, a week ago. Yeah.

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The NGA thing we went to. I don't know if we talked about this on this episode,

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but, dude, just sidebar comment real fast.

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Shout out to to becca and jina who fought in

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the the ladies tag team match but dude

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at nga it was awesome it was

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if for those listening definitely check out because

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uh so the nga did like a a

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mic like a micro pit i don't know a

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small they had a pit they had a pit um so

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they did a super fight format they did um a

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masters trio so sort of like quintet

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but three-man team 14 brackets shout out to tim uh

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nakapan and colton smith who went

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out and won and those guys are like the avengers yeah it was the masters they're

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like the avengers of masters division for the dc area they were nasty man they're

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all awesome and they and they won um but yeah dude that was pretty cool it was

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built around that that was kind of like the main if you want to call it like

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the main event kind of thing was those guys yeah but then gina's event yeah

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surprise the surprise they.

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Um so what she told me

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was that like day of she was supposed to have a super fight

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that so she was already on the the card if you will and

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her buddy becca like was there and they're like yo like they went to the venue

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and they said or the promoter and said why don't we can we do a tag team like

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i don't i don't know where the idea came from and uh i think they're the team

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they competed against was two gals i think wrestlemania was that weekend so

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they were psyched up All right, I like that.

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Yeah, I like that. That actually makes perfect sense.

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But she said that they, like, so Gina's opponent was a gal from Enlisted Nine, Colton's team.

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And they're tough, man. They're good. And those, and she, like the other team,

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like she had another, another buddy, another female from the same team.

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So they're like, yo, we can do a tag team match.

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So I've never seen a tag team match in jujitsu competitions before.

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I'm sure they've been done before, but I've never seen one. So this is my first experience with one.

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And the venue was like, yeah, dude, we'll do it. Like NGA was like, okay.

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That wasn't the venue. Venue was high noon. But you get what I'm saying.

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The promoter was like, yeah, man, we're down.

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Like, all right. But we don't really know exactly what the format should look like, but we'll run it.

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And so they even said that. They did like a preface at the event.

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The guy in the mic was like, all right, like we've never done one of these before, so bear with us.

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We don't exactly know how to run it, but we have an idea. We're just going to

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go with it. So if you guys go with it too, we're all going to have a good time.

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And we did have a good time.

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And yeah, I mean, like we'd have to like go down this rabbit hole too,

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too far, but like they, they ran a tag team match and the way they did it in

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the pit was like the girls had to be, the girls who weren't competing at the

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start had to be like in their corners.

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Is they had to put their foot in the corner of the pit and be just like WrestleMania.

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They had to slap their teammate for them to come in.

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And I don't know if this is always going to be the format, but at least for

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this one, the way they had it was, you can do that unlimited amount of times.

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If you can make contact with your teammate, she'll jump in.

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And so it quickly escalated to chaos, fast pace, mania.

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Especially with that small pit. Oh, dude, the pit. You can reach it across.

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Yeah, that's right, because it's not a huge mat surface. The pit is super interesting

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in general for like Jiu Jitsu tournaments. Like I have a feeling.

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Those are going to become a lot more common just because even the regular matches

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were a little bit more exciting because of the pit.

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But for this, it was nice because they could get to the corner like fairly easily.

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And so there were like tons of like tag exchanges flying back and forth.

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And like one girl would be on another girl's back or like in an armbar about to submit the other one.

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The other lady would hit the tag. Her friend would come in. She'd jump and she

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immediately started attacking the other girl who was just about to win.

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And so it was like back and forth, nonstop action.

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The crowd was screaming. I was screaming. It was insane.

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At one point, like it kind of like, I mean, here's my thing.

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I liked the chaos of it. It made it so, it was the most compelling match of the entire day.

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It was, it was that, you know, like pay those girls. That was awesome.

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But. And you had really high level matches. So like.

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That's a big. No, I know. You're right. You're right. It's a lot of praise.

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Like, I mean, like, and those girls are good too.

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Like their skill level is good. they I believe I mean

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I know Becca and Gina I know they're they compete a lot like they're skilled competitors

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I don't know the other two gals that well but they looked pretty sharp from what

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I saw um so those like the skill level for those

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for those ladies was was pretty high to begin with um but

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like we just mentioned there was like a black belt um trio

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style thing like in theory those and they were the main event

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black belt teams like that should be the highest skill level right um this

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is my way of saying like you that doesn't

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always I mean like the way they format the match can make it the most exciting thing

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which is what happened um it the last thing

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i'll say about it was like at one point in time it got a little bit too chaotic i

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say that in quotes because i thought the whole thing was awesome so i

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still for those listening i don't i mean if you're a promoter i don't know how

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you do this but like some of that chaos made it fucking awesome oh i mean maybe

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tag team matches should be a future it should be a future thing it was future

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dude i was so i i loved it i was so engaged and i mean i've been doing this for 20 years,

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I've been to a million tournaments, I've been to like all the different variations of them.

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This was the coolest one I'd ever seen. And they were flying around the mat.

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Like, there was one moment where, like, they...

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I think it's happened on both teams. Like, some of the girls who were out,

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like, they kind of stretched a little bit out of their corners.

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Whatever. Maybe that's the only thing you change. Just keep them in the corner. I don't know.

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It's still made for the most exciting shit I've ever seen. It was they were

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just tagging in, out, flying around offense.

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Like, immediately the person who was tagged in is jumping right into,

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like, a submission threat as fast as they can, which then means the other person's,

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like, scrambling to get back to their corner. So it's like, tag in, tag in.

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It was awesome. Yeah, Andrea was talking about it this morning.

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I heard her say she was watching the live stream.

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And so, like, the live stream commentators were just, like, saying,

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like, I think they cheated again. Well, the other team cheated.

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The cheating, if you want to call it that, was. For the tax.

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It was equal. It was equal for what it's worth. And, again, it was like they've

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never done one of these. So we're going to give them a pass.

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Why did I bring that up? I think I brought it up because I was saying,

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like, we have competitors who are pretty active.

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Yeah it was pretty active people here she was she's back

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in the gym already she's probably got more action lined up

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for the rest of the year tournament wise competition wise so she needs to stay

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sharp um so yeah like but as a visitor these folks are getting that that um

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exposure to different people um you know and like a fairly like you know it's

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the good thing about that crew that's down there is everyone's like we're all

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trying to like i mean we had a one small minor incident, but it's okay.

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Yeah, you know, somebody did that. We don't need to talk about it.

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We don't need to talk about it, but for the most part, it's controlled.

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Hearts go out to him, by the way. Yeah, yeah, we, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, Dan, if you're listening to this, man, I hope your leg's okay.

00:16:01.018 --> 00:16:02.838
I'm sure it is. He sounds like he gave me a text.

00:16:03.118 --> 00:16:06.318
He's doing all right. Just send him flowers, man. I will. I'll buy him some

00:16:06.318 --> 00:16:08.918
food. I'll buy him a bunch of stuff. I'll buy him some Zins.

00:16:09.518 --> 00:16:12.338
There you go. He likes that. Yeah, I'll take care of him. Give him a Zin.

00:16:12.458 --> 00:16:16.018
Do they have edible arrangements for Zins? No, that's a great idea.

00:16:16.458 --> 00:16:17.438
Yeah, how could you imagine?

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If I could throw in like a ribeye. Yeah. He's big on grilling these days.

00:16:22.758 --> 00:16:25.838
I'm going to give him like, he's got a badass trigger. Shout out, big steak. Big steak.

00:16:26.178 --> 00:16:29.318
Big steak, guys. I'll give them some steaks, some fruits, some zins.

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I'll take care of them. But anyways, for the most part, like those sponsors. Yeah, dude, for sure.

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Those that the room is like, it's a good environment for that.

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Everyone's like, there's basically no rest.

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Like we're going to like attack each other for a long time. But like you get that exposure.

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It's not super high risk. That's why I say it's like a low dose of a competition environment.

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Like competition environment, people are really trying to like,

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they're trying to win, right?

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You have controls outside of outside of just a referee, right?

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Like there's there's definitely a different

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vibe in or at least there should be in

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the room versus like when people are looking for the podium right

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like 100 someone hunting to get that to get

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that medal should be going at a way different pace than someone

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at the gym especially their own gym

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if they're you know being a good

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training partner right because we're all there to train or not there to like you shouldn't

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be trying to kill each other right so right obviously you

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want intensity but like you can do both you know

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what i'm saying you can get the intensity but also keeping it like well

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curated for everyone's well-being you

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want to keep the next person to the next round right like at the bare minimum

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yeah exactly so yeah dude it's interesting like i seem to text me about this

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the other day he's asking me like what's our our what's my thoughts on cross

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training or whatever and it's i mean this is the this is my thought on cross training um.

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It's like, I mean, like as a coach, like I think out of the people who I coach,

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Andrea is probably one of the best at like actively getting out to other places

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to cross train quite a bit.

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She does that, I want to say two or three times a week.

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She gets to like other rooms against other people. And it obviously shows with

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like how successful she's been too with like the work she's doing in that regard.

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So I do recommend it where you can do it. My only caveat is like it's kind of

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like what we talked about.

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Think about where you're going. who's in charge over there if it's like good

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people good leadership and like they're gonna try to provide a similar culture

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for all the reasons we just talked about like in other words,

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how hostile of an environment are you going into yeah to

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put it bluntly um because there's gonna be like i

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mean like it's and i don't think this is necessarily a bad thing but like you go into

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someone else's house like they're gonna try and beat you a little bit that's okay that's

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kind of why you go you go like all right i can you know i want

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to i want to get some good rounds tough round make sure they're

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not trying to hurt hurt you that's right that's really it that's

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it like you want them to try to beat you you just don't want them to

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be looking to prove something i guess

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is the better way to put i don't know yeah totally they're not

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trying to take you take a piece of you home um yeah i

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mean like i totally like cross training's hella important especially like if

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you have that like performance anxiety issue within some of your competitors

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like it's a good way to start working that out because it's immersion therapy, right? Like if...

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If being against an unknown opponent causes anxiety within you,

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then you need to put yourself against those people at a higher frequency,

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whether that's like, hey, let's go hit some, some small,

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like smaller competitions that you might feel have a lower stakes on the line.

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Let's go out there and like put ourselves against these people or, um.

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You know, that's an option or like, Hey, in the instance of the guys that at,

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uh, battlefield with me, like we have two other affiliated gyms that are probably

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the same distance from their house,

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so like you could go and pop over from you

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go from battlefield you could go to vanguard and

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go to dominion you can like kind of pop in and get a different look

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but like it's all under the same you know

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it's all grand scheme the same team but you

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can go and train with people you don't train with all the time and some of

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them are going to be guys you're going to compete against so um you

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know like you might get you're going to be able to get that new

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thing or that that immersion into

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that like slightly stressful situation of not knowing what's going on and not

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have to worry about like you already know somebody there you have an anchor

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point that like for both of you so you know that like all right well this is

00:20:36.459 --> 00:20:37.939
gonna be fine we're on the same team,

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we're just you know so there's a bunch of different ways to well how was it

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for you coming into DMA doing that,

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maybe like thinking a couple months back when you yeah like when we first started

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doing it when you were doing it like yeah when you first started doing it more frequently or whatever,

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yeah I mean yeah.

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Not I've done it long enough that like I kind of it's not too bad but like yeah

00:21:00.922 --> 00:21:05.542
when when I pop in and like the first time around it's all new people and like

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you don't necessarily know,

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what their level is you don't know what their game is and so like you have to

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approach like a little softly because gotta ask about that it's good that's

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normal for you right like if.

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You go in and you go like guns blazing guns blazing

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like you're gonna you will create that

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like you become a target yeah you become a target environment so

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you want to like you know you kind of ease in and like

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you do you you want to play a good

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game but like you might maybe you don't go straight in with

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your a game because especially if you plan on coming back all

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right you know like right you don't want to you don't

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want to go in with your a game and be like that you don't want to be an invader

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right it'll be a bull in a china shop yeah i know exactly you don't want to

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you don't want to create that environment like um where like you don't want

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you want to create like that dojo storm environment and then like now everybody's

00:22:02.742 --> 00:22:04.242
gunning for you in there and like

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they might kind of start throwing caution to

00:22:07.362 --> 00:22:10.222
win they might start trying to crank on stuff so like you know that's

00:22:10.222 --> 00:22:13.202
not really an issue you've had but like you have to be you have

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to be cautious of that anytime you're going against new people

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outside of a competition setting because like in a

00:22:19.042 --> 00:22:21.802
competition setting like i you know we got five minutes

00:22:21.802 --> 00:22:24.582
it doesn't matter what happens after that

00:22:24.582 --> 00:22:28.642
right like we can try to kill each other for five minutes because you don't

00:22:28.642 --> 00:22:33.082
have backup like waiting for me at the end the other end of this five minutes

00:22:33.082 --> 00:22:36.702
six minutes whatever super interesting yeah no i i suspected you would say that

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and i think that's not only normal it's a it's inappropriate way to do it um

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and because like you know we've.

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I've we have trained together so much

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longer for so long or for such a long time

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that like I definitely go harder against like

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you um than like anyone

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else in the room because like one you

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know what we know each we know each other's games it's relatively um.

00:23:01.854 --> 00:23:04.854
And we kind of have similar games too like

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because we we kind of we train together for such a long time

00:23:07.614 --> 00:23:11.014
that we went through that like that development phase together

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so like we have a very similar our base on

00:23:13.834 --> 00:23:16.954
our game um and so like there's

00:23:16.954 --> 00:23:19.754
a different level of comfortability like i know

00:23:19.754 --> 00:23:23.054
like i can go a little bit harder yeah you'll squeeze my neck definitely there

00:23:23.054 --> 00:23:26.994
might be someone else which is fine i accept it's not

00:23:26.994 --> 00:23:29.914
mean no it's necessary like i didn't bring

00:23:29.914 --> 00:23:33.514
you in to have you like go easy on my fucking skull you know

00:23:33.514 --> 00:23:36.314
like there's there's definitely like different things that you'll

00:23:36.314 --> 00:23:39.514
try on people that you're comfortable with versus people

00:23:39.514 --> 00:23:42.334
that like you aren't as comfortable with and that's

00:23:42.334 --> 00:23:45.234
the same thing like at your home base too like when

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you have a new person come in like for the most

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part like i'm not going to be going for uh like

00:23:51.554 --> 00:23:54.154
this morning i'm going for like a thunderlock you know

00:23:54.154 --> 00:23:56.834
like trying to rip their shoulder off because like i'm not going to be

00:23:56.834 --> 00:23:59.974
that guy either because i don't want to turn that person into

00:23:59.974 --> 00:24:03.194
an us i don't want to create us versus them scenario yeah um

00:24:03.194 --> 00:24:06.174
either and so like you have to be on either

00:24:06.174 --> 00:24:10.674
side of the coin too like you should be somewhat cautious of that and that creates

00:24:10.674 --> 00:24:14.754
a better training environment for everybody and then it also will help you when

00:24:14.754 --> 00:24:18.394
you go to other gyms do you think the increased exposure to like these guys

00:24:18.394 --> 00:24:21.814
this is quite a few familiar faces on the mat too like there's like probably

00:24:21.814 --> 00:24:24.314
man maybe like nine or ten people today.

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It was really only four people who aren't, like, headquartered at DMA on the

00:24:28.287 --> 00:24:30.807
map. I think we had 13 guys. It's like nine.

00:24:31.427 --> 00:24:34.667
Those are mostly familiar faces. We were probably, it was probably 50-50 on,

00:24:34.827 --> 00:24:37.567
in terms of, like, people who were headquartered at DMA versus not.

00:24:37.567 --> 00:24:38.607
Yeah, you might be right, I guess.

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I mean, I think of Casey, because Casey, true. Well, some of us are,

00:24:41.547 --> 00:24:45.367
you know, we've been part of it at some point in time, but yeah.

00:24:45.567 --> 00:24:47.127
I know what you mean, but what do you think about that?

00:24:47.567 --> 00:24:50.987
I mean, I think that makes the room better. Like, I think that.

00:24:51.027 --> 00:24:52.267
Well, I mean, let me rephrase.

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Because, like, obviously, again, you know me. you know you can do against me

00:24:55.867 --> 00:24:58.647
do you feel like you're getting some of that with like some of the other guys

00:24:58.647 --> 00:25:01.667
you've seen oh yeah five six seven eight nine ten times like

00:25:01.667 --> 00:25:04.627
it's definitely like um it's getting it's getting more there's

00:25:04.627 --> 00:25:07.467
a different you're you're kind of getting you start getting

00:25:07.467 --> 00:25:10.827
into that like zone of like playful

00:25:10.827 --> 00:25:13.767
right like there's like a once you start to get to be comfortable

00:25:13.767 --> 00:25:16.687
with people you start to kind of have a more playful game

00:25:16.687 --> 00:25:19.387
like with each other because like you start to

00:25:19.387 --> 00:25:22.127
get comfortable and you kind of know like oh well if i go for

00:25:22.127 --> 00:25:24.807
this thing he might go for he might he's going

00:25:24.807 --> 00:25:28.067
to try to do this and then i can like kind of transition in

00:25:28.067 --> 00:25:30.767
the into like a different step like i can go if i go for

00:25:30.767 --> 00:25:33.687
the kimura he's going to try to he's going to turn that elbow

00:25:33.687 --> 00:25:39.567
down and i'll rotate i'll go for the back whatever and so um the game starts

00:25:39.567 --> 00:25:45.487
to change and you kind of start to go from like a little bit more of like one

00:25:45.487 --> 00:25:49.447
to two move jujitsu into kind of like now you're creating more of like the scrambles

00:25:49.447 --> 00:25:52.467
and flows and um so like the,

00:25:53.027 --> 00:26:00.147
But you still have that, like, a little bit of that unknown attached to it because,

00:26:00.187 --> 00:26:02.547
like, you don't see each other all the time.

00:26:02.907 --> 00:26:05.547
But you start to kind of open up more.

00:26:06.947 --> 00:26:13.947
Like, I know, like, Caldun and I go, Caldun and I, Shane, Andrea,

00:26:14.267 --> 00:26:17.527
because they're there all the time. Yeah.

00:26:17.687 --> 00:26:22.487
And so, and I tend to end up with them when we're doing the rotations.

00:26:22.487 --> 00:26:25.367
And just the way you know sometimes it shakes out so i

00:26:25.367 --> 00:26:28.947
i tend to see them more often and so

00:26:28.947 --> 00:26:31.667
um you know we we tend to

00:26:31.667 --> 00:26:34.487
be we're starting to open up more with what we're you know what we're

00:26:34.487 --> 00:26:38.827
playing and like so it starts to create more um you get kind of out of just

00:26:38.827 --> 00:26:43.527
like a single positional struggle into because we're doing positional smart

00:26:43.527 --> 00:26:47.227
you know we're doing mostly single positions but like you start to get into

00:26:47.227 --> 00:26:53.087
more intermediaries and rather than just like all right you have my leg one, two, three, go.

00:26:53.507 --> 00:26:57.127
All right, I got my leg out or up, you got into it. And so you start to kind

00:26:57.127 --> 00:27:01.967
of, because you know what their move A is and so you can start to try to predict a little bit more.

00:27:02.087 --> 00:27:04.287
And so it starts to- It like develops.

00:27:04.447 --> 00:27:08.787
It starts to develop. And then you get, I mean, maybe I don't want to lead the

00:27:08.787 --> 00:27:10.647
witness, but it sounds like it's becoming more valuable.

00:27:10.807 --> 00:27:12.927
Oh yeah, it's good. It definitely is.

00:27:13.887 --> 00:27:19.887
And it's good to like getting different looks because like, you know, I have the same-

00:27:21.053 --> 00:27:26.973
I'm seeing the same three to four other competitors five days a week,

00:27:27.633 --> 00:27:33.853
in terms of guys who are active competitors at my gym during my class time,

00:27:33.933 --> 00:27:36.913
the times that I'm training. The ones who are your most frequent training.

00:27:37.353 --> 00:27:40.953
Yeah. And so there's a set number

00:27:40.953 --> 00:27:47.893
of guys that are more active in terms of competing, and it's growing.

00:27:47.893 --> 00:27:51.033
There's more people becoming more and more interested in doing

00:27:51.033 --> 00:27:53.753
it which is great because whether or not you

00:27:53.753 --> 00:27:56.633
do it all the time i think everyone should uh should should at

00:27:56.633 --> 00:28:00.193
least try it right they should do a competition um

00:28:00.193 --> 00:28:02.913
but you know there's there's a

00:28:02.913 --> 00:28:05.973
different level like a those guys

00:28:05.973 --> 00:28:08.873
those people have a different switch right like people who compete more.

00:28:08.873 --> 00:28:12.453
And so getting to see different looks from

00:28:12.453 --> 00:28:16.353
different people with different styles um then

00:28:16.353 --> 00:28:19.233
you see all the time because those guys

00:28:19.233 --> 00:28:22.673
are at the same gym they tend to have the same style like they tend

00:28:22.673 --> 00:28:25.753
to use very similar jiu-jitsu you

00:28:25.753 --> 00:28:28.753
know what pattern you recognize the patterns a lot a lot more quickly which

00:28:28.753 --> 00:28:31.693
is different than my jiu-jitsu just because of a difference

00:28:31.693 --> 00:28:34.773
of like i've trained with a lot there

00:28:34.773 --> 00:28:38.013
you know they've been there the majority of their jiu-jitsu career

00:28:38.013 --> 00:28:42.293
whereas like i've you know we've had more influences

00:28:42.293 --> 00:28:44.973
of jujitsu you know even just at

00:28:44.973 --> 00:28:47.993
nova mma how many different people how

00:28:47.993 --> 00:28:51.473
many different like people came in and did instruction

00:28:51.473 --> 00:28:56.313
and like oh yeah a lot you know so you have a lot of different people like kind

00:28:56.313 --> 00:29:00.473
of introducing different styles and so you kind of get a different style than

00:29:00.473 --> 00:29:07.973
if you have like a very specific like lineage driven style right uh-huh so um

00:29:07.973 --> 00:29:11.273
yeah it's super beneficial um.

00:29:12.204 --> 00:29:17.964
But also, there is a little bit of a difference with, like, the people I tend

00:29:17.964 --> 00:29:23.124
to compete with don't really have the style of the guys at DMA, necessarily.

00:29:24.184 --> 00:29:29.744
Which is more similar to the style I play. Right. But, you know, you have a lot of guys.

00:29:29.904 --> 00:29:35.984
You don't have a lot of guys in my, like, weight division that are playing a

00:29:35.984 --> 00:29:37.504
more, like, forward pressure.

00:29:37.504 --> 00:29:40.344
Um or you know like forward pressure

00:29:40.344 --> 00:29:43.324
attack style wrestling some amount of

00:29:43.324 --> 00:29:45.984
wrestling base jiu-jitsu you have a

00:29:45.984 --> 00:29:51.284
lot of guys that are playing really good like guard driven jiu-jitsu yeah like

00:29:51.284 --> 00:29:54.404
you know so you have guys that are kind of playing more of like a modern sports

00:29:54.404 --> 00:30:01.564
style um ground based you know sweep sweep to start versus like takedown to

00:30:01.564 --> 00:30:05.404
start um so it definitely,

00:30:06.344 --> 00:30:09.504
is fun but like you do get a slightly different like

00:30:09.504 --> 00:30:12.384
i know what you mean there is there's probably more pieces to

00:30:12.384 --> 00:30:15.184
add to my to my training puzzle um just because

00:30:15.184 --> 00:30:18.464
of like the people i see in competition but it definitely

00:30:18.464 --> 00:30:23.944
is good so yeah to see as many different things so i still gonna see people

00:30:23.944 --> 00:30:29.124
that play a more forward pressure and attack solid jiu-jitsu so like i still

00:30:29.124 --> 00:30:31.804
need that is still yeah you want to sharpen your strengths too and it's like

00:30:31.804 --> 00:30:36.084
there's actually i just this is the one thing that I'll say about, um,

00:30:36.304 --> 00:30:39.324
that's the good thing about like your home base style guys where like you are

00:30:39.324 --> 00:30:41.624
a lot of times playing like what you're best at. Cause you're,

00:30:42.236 --> 00:30:45.396
Well, I mean, there's all kinds of, we can go through the merits of changing

00:30:45.396 --> 00:30:46.896
that up, maybe some other time.

00:30:47.696 --> 00:30:52.096
And by that, I mean, like, forcing yourself to fight from a position that you

00:30:52.096 --> 00:30:54.976
aren't as commonly playing.

00:30:55.396 --> 00:30:58.176
Think, like, playing my weaknesses, not my strengths, but...

00:30:58.176 --> 00:31:00.516
Yeah, try to play the B game and the C game.

00:31:00.736 --> 00:31:05.096
Right. Start, like, looking at those, like, other... But put that to the side for now, right?

00:31:05.156 --> 00:31:08.596
Like, that's the value of, like, your home team practices

00:31:08.596 --> 00:31:11.396
are going to be you most of the time trying to sharpen what

00:31:11.396 --> 00:31:14.276
you're already really good at which is for all intents and purposes

00:31:14.276 --> 00:31:18.176
man like that's that's what you're going to go into your tournaments and do anyways so

00:31:18.176 --> 00:31:20.876
that's i i do think that should be the bulk of what

00:31:20.876 --> 00:31:23.916
you do is continue to sharpen the blades that

00:31:23.916 --> 00:31:27.436
are already really tight make them as sharp as humanly possible because it's

00:31:27.436 --> 00:31:30.116
a game you need your playbooks or you

00:31:30.116 --> 00:31:32.916
need your plays in your playbook and and they got to be tight right

00:31:32.916 --> 00:31:36.396
so that's that's the really good thing about like having like a good consistent home

00:31:36.396 --> 00:31:39.376
team that's always and if people have similar styles

00:31:39.376 --> 00:31:42.476
they'll just like and once they get to know your shit if you're

00:31:42.476 --> 00:31:45.216
off by just a little bit like they'll you just won't get it so then

00:31:45.216 --> 00:31:49.316
you have honest they keep you honest exactly so there's always that honing and

00:31:49.316 --> 00:31:52.956
refining of things that you're nasty at just continue to make that better and

00:31:52.956 --> 00:31:55.396
better that's huge right and like you're gonna get a little bit of that too

00:31:55.396 --> 00:31:59.236
when you go into these cross training environments but um back to what you said

00:31:59.236 --> 00:32:05.116
um if you can if you can introduce different,

00:32:06.156 --> 00:32:08.476
maybe more complicated because it's a little less familiar.

00:32:09.776 --> 00:32:14.296
Jiu-jitsu styles against and you know and you put yourself against that person

00:32:14.296 --> 00:32:16.136
in these situational sparring.

00:32:17.856 --> 00:32:21.316
Scenarios with like guys like Nakapan or that dude Tim like people who are like

00:32:21.316 --> 00:32:25.656
really comfortable and really good off their back like you need that too and

00:32:25.656 --> 00:32:28.056
that's like where these like cross training environments are super helpful because

00:32:28.056 --> 00:32:32.596
if we can get those bodies in the room well it's just someone who's gonna like,

00:32:33.468 --> 00:32:36.348
kind of let you play your a game but like you're playing against their a game yeah

00:32:36.348 --> 00:32:39.408
it's it's like a contrasting a game and like that's that's what

00:32:39.408 --> 00:32:42.408
i faced in my last tournament um i faced

00:32:42.408 --> 00:32:46.408
a guy who well i faced guys and this has happened lots of times in my career

00:32:46.408 --> 00:32:50.108
where i've been in a situation where like my a game is paired against another

00:32:50.108 --> 00:32:55.788
guy's a game this naturally like he wanted to be where you like to go they also

00:32:55.788 --> 00:33:01.088
like to be yeah just they like to be on the opposite side of that And then you got yourself a contest,

00:33:02.868 --> 00:33:08.428
which is, you know, again, we talk about that a whole other time, but that's the thing.

00:33:08.548 --> 00:33:14.128
That's like you want to be a little confused by someone different, right?

00:33:14.188 --> 00:33:19.508
Like if I'm going against, if me and you who are doing mostly the same stuff

00:33:19.508 --> 00:33:26.448
in game, in game, like in competition, one of us is forced to play from the bad position.

00:33:26.968 --> 00:33:32.088
The guy in the better position might just win. Well, yeah, that scenario turns

00:33:32.088 --> 00:33:39.728
into, like, who's going to edge out the other person to where we want to be first, right?

00:33:40.208 --> 00:33:42.448
That's why we do it, too, right? Like, if I know, like, all right,

00:33:43.468 --> 00:33:44.848
maybe we're doing, like, half guard.

00:33:47.108 --> 00:33:47.608
Excuse me.

00:33:48.402 --> 00:33:51.362
I'm on the bottom. I got to separate. I got to keep you from doing what I know

00:33:51.362 --> 00:33:53.002
you want to do. And I know how you're going to do it.

00:33:53.142 --> 00:33:55.642
Right? Like, I'm like, all right. Like if I know you're good at it,

00:33:55.822 --> 00:33:58.662
which means then like, all right, if I, I don't do as much of this in bottom.

00:33:58.722 --> 00:34:00.222
So I actually usually want to be where Mike is.

00:34:00.382 --> 00:34:03.482
And like in a second, maybe like, you know, in 25 seconds when I cycle through

00:34:03.482 --> 00:34:06.462
the next group, I might be doing that in a minute. But right now I'm doing the

00:34:06.462 --> 00:34:07.982
opposite. So you got to do it right.

00:34:08.662 --> 00:34:10.922
Before the other dude was good. Like Shane's a good example too.

00:34:11.002 --> 00:34:12.082
Cause like Shane's so heavy.

00:34:12.602 --> 00:34:15.382
He's big, he's strong, he's athletic and he can do all the same shit.

00:34:15.382 --> 00:34:19.642
And like if there are i mean there are a couple scenarios i was like oh fuck

00:34:19.642 --> 00:34:23.262
like i'm on my back and i'm like jeez here we go here comes shane like i think

00:34:23.262 --> 00:34:25.002
i gotta like i gotta get this done,

00:34:25.502 --> 00:34:28.702
i can't afford to fuck it up because i'm gonna have shane's big

00:34:28.702 --> 00:34:31.522
ass like bearing down on me and he's gonna do it with intensity because

00:34:31.522 --> 00:34:34.082
he's fucking focused which is great if you

00:34:34.082 --> 00:34:36.962
listen to this shane keep doing that we were keep doing that dude

00:34:36.962 --> 00:34:39.962
i just like i'm like oh here we go oh wonderful during during

00:34:39.962 --> 00:34:45.542
that octopus guard one um shane he

00:34:45.542 --> 00:34:48.322
like just like bowled through my crossface like i went

00:34:48.322 --> 00:34:51.642
to crossface to like beat the beat his octopus

00:34:51.642 --> 00:34:54.402
and uh and he just

00:34:54.402 --> 00:34:57.102
kind of like bowled through it and like got me back in front of

00:34:57.102 --> 00:35:00.142
him and i was like i had to i was like oh well we haven't

00:35:00.142 --> 00:35:06.942
completely it's not over yet so i was like cartwheel yeah yeah i was like he

00:35:06.942 --> 00:35:11.182
it's that or he just hammers the shit out of you and I don't want to be there

00:35:11.182 --> 00:35:15.322
either I don't want to let him stand up I don't want to go in between his big

00:35:15.322 --> 00:35:18.842
ass fucking legs and that's why we do situations,

00:35:19.342 --> 00:35:24.722
there's one thing I gotta do I better do it right or I'm fucked and that's that.

00:35:26.842 --> 00:35:31.502
At least it foists you into those uncomfortable situations rather than just playing,

00:35:32.102 --> 00:35:35.222
constantly your best thing oh yeah and

00:35:35.222 --> 00:35:39.282
actually that's another thing on going

00:35:39.282 --> 00:35:42.622
into you know getting into other rooms doing that cross training is

00:35:42.622 --> 00:35:46.522
you also pick up a lot of like really valuable

00:35:46.522 --> 00:35:49.702
training techniques and

00:35:49.702 --> 00:35:52.442
um like i've been taking a lot

00:35:52.442 --> 00:35:55.382
of these positionals these like positional games

00:35:55.382 --> 00:35:58.442
we've been playing um and like adapting them

00:35:58.442 --> 00:36:01.282
to what we're doing at uh my gym

00:36:01.282 --> 00:36:05.942
and i mean like a big part of like my class structure and so like now it's like

00:36:05.942 --> 00:36:10.422
all right we're gonna do we're gonna warm up with a game we're gonna go over

00:36:10.422 --> 00:36:13.982
a technique and then we're gonna play a game from the position that technique

00:36:13.982 --> 00:36:18.622
is in and so like hey like we're gonna i'll show you something but like.

00:36:19.407 --> 00:36:22.387
This is just an option for what we're about to do later. Like,

00:36:22.487 --> 00:36:25.647
and so they kind of creates that it builds a context.

00:36:26.247 --> 00:36:29.687
Um, but also like it kind of allows that development.

00:36:30.107 --> 00:36:33.307
Um, well, so I like about the situational style of training too,

00:36:33.487 --> 00:36:36.107
is that usually like you pick one of those things.

00:36:36.187 --> 00:36:39.867
There's actually like, it's ironic, I guess, or whatever paradoxical,

00:36:39.967 --> 00:36:44.447
but like you like try to distill down in the drill, the game,

00:36:44.547 --> 00:36:45.367
whatever you want to call it.

00:36:45.987 --> 00:36:50.847
Um, um one action or maybe one goal there's perhaps lots of actions you can

00:36:50.847 --> 00:36:54.007
do to get to it sometimes it seems like there's one action but like you just

00:36:54.007 --> 00:36:56.207
got to get chest to chest or whatever you name it.

00:36:57.207 --> 00:37:00.187
Um you're trying to guide them to a specific yes thing

00:37:00.187 --> 00:37:03.147
yes but there's so much wealth of like content built within

00:37:03.147 --> 00:37:06.447
just that one thing it gives you there's surprisingly a

00:37:06.447 --> 00:37:09.447
lot when you're teaching like newer folks that you can take from

00:37:09.447 --> 00:37:12.287
that and you can build a good lesson around like

00:37:12.287 --> 00:37:15.127
this one tiny thing which kind of makes it as

00:37:15.127 --> 00:37:16.987
a coach like it makes your job a little bit easier because you're like you know

00:37:16.987 --> 00:37:17.867
what there's actually a shit

00:37:17.867 --> 00:37:20.947
ton here i don't think about all the complexity all the possible

00:37:20.947 --> 00:37:23.827
things i can teach somebody no i actually want to make it really simple because

00:37:23.827 --> 00:37:27.067
there's really simple thing one it's not easy to do it's just because it's simple

00:37:27.067 --> 00:37:31.407
doesn't mean it's easy yeah um but it's simple and that simplicity might mean

00:37:31.407 --> 00:37:33.967
that like it may be difficult but they might actually understand what i'm saying

00:37:33.967 --> 00:37:39.147
instead of showing them like a complex four super duper complex moves that they're

00:37:39.147 --> 00:37:42.407
like i don't know what the hell just happened And they're still going to learn from that too.

00:37:42.507 --> 00:37:45.087
I mean, I feel like that's how we got trained. They'll hopefully pick something.

00:37:45.667 --> 00:37:50.347
But yeah, that one thing, whatever it is, like you're into what you just said,

00:37:50.447 --> 00:37:52.027
like you can make the whole lesson around that.

00:37:52.187 --> 00:37:53.927
And there's a lot you can do. And like people might be like,

00:37:54.167 --> 00:37:57.027
they should be kind of tired. They should be having fun.

00:37:57.387 --> 00:37:59.767
They should be thinking a little bit. They should walk away,

00:37:59.847 --> 00:38:01.787
at least understanding what that was they tried to do.

00:38:01.847 --> 00:38:05.127
They might not have it down perfectly in one class, but like you're giving them

00:38:05.127 --> 00:38:07.547
one thing that usually has...

00:38:08.397 --> 00:38:10.817
I just said chest-to-chest pressure earlier. I'll use it as an example.

00:38:10.957 --> 00:38:14.597
It's like if you can get that concept or principle built into their head and

00:38:14.597 --> 00:38:16.897
you're like, hey, this is the reason why. This is super important.

00:38:16.957 --> 00:38:20.157
It's like if I can collapse my weight in, I can then control it.

00:38:20.237 --> 00:38:23.697
I can move into the next position, X, Y, or Z, submission.

00:38:23.877 --> 00:38:28.677
I can continue to advance. And then that concept can be applied to multiple other things.

00:38:29.017 --> 00:38:31.617
So then they're like, you gave them something simple, and then they might go

00:38:31.617 --> 00:38:33.377
home thinking about how that one thing.

00:38:34.057 --> 00:38:37.277
Actually achieves like 10 different goals throughout

00:38:37.277 --> 00:38:40.057
the wealth of situations they'll be in yeah i mean

00:38:40.057 --> 00:38:42.897
well like um this week

00:38:42.897 --> 00:38:45.877
i did um i showed a john

00:38:45.877 --> 00:38:48.577
wayne sweep and mainly because i just wanted to

00:38:48.577 --> 00:38:51.237
put everyone in half guard for like for the drill but it was

00:38:51.237 --> 00:38:55.017
like all right like i'm gonna show you this one sweep

00:38:55.017 --> 00:38:57.897
because your goal when we get into

00:38:57.897 --> 00:39:01.537
positional drilling is to sweep

00:39:01.537 --> 00:39:04.897
the if you're on bottom like you want to sweep the guy and if

00:39:04.897 --> 00:39:08.437
they hold you for the full four minutes then you

00:39:08.437 --> 00:39:11.697
know they won that exchange like imagine you're

00:39:11.697 --> 00:39:15.277
losing this person's on top it's four minutes they

00:39:15.277 --> 00:39:19.897
can sit there they could pass that's great too they can submit but like on bottom

00:39:19.897 --> 00:39:25.237
you just got to get out and so you know i gave you one option and like let's

00:39:25.237 --> 00:39:29.457
see you're either gonna get a lot of reps with that one move or you might find

00:39:29.457 --> 00:39:32.997
another move within all of that it might you might find set something else up

00:39:32.997 --> 00:39:34.137
that you've learned in the past.

00:39:34.397 --> 00:39:39.697
Like, and so, um, you know, people either get really good at that one because

00:39:39.697 --> 00:39:43.717
they like it or they find out like, Oh, like this doesn't work for me,

00:39:44.117 --> 00:39:45.897
but I have these other tools too.

00:39:46.137 --> 00:39:50.777
And so like you, you don't force them to do the thing you're teaching them,

00:39:50.877 --> 00:39:52.777
but you force them to think about what you're going to think about.

00:39:52.957 --> 00:39:56.917
Yeah. You force them to think about why you taught them that specific thing.

00:39:57.531 --> 00:40:00.251
And so it's good. Yeah, I get it.

00:40:02.511 --> 00:40:07.571
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