(Ep 47) Tim Dawson: Jiu-Jitsu, Conspiracies & Culture

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee, guys. We are sitting down today with

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Tim Dawson, the owner of High Noon DJJ, down in Springfield, right?

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Is that Alexandria? I don't know where the cutoff is. I've left this portion

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of Virginia now, so I've lost my bearings on the region.

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Um but yeah so we're sitting

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down tim dawson from high noon bjj uh we're

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gonna start off with a question from last week's episode uh so last week we

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were talking about how jujitsu doesn't take itself too seriously and is it just

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star wars so what we left off with is who is the obi-wan Kenobi.

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Of bjj hey real quick though set the table

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for him oh yeah palpatine is so palpatine

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hey tim you've seen star wars 100 okay good good good i'm

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on earth all right we grew up around the same time so mike he's seen star wars

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so we're talking like prequel trilogy

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here which apparently is already a whole hot button topic but whatever um but

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so we're talking emperor palpatine is john donahuer and he's manufactured the

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split between Craig Jones and Gordon Ryan, like the two schools of thought there.

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But we think, so he's still backing Craig Jones. Craig Jones is Count Dooku

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here. This is the conspiracy.

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Yeah, that's good. Tell them that. So Craig Jones. Wait, hold on.

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So we're thinking Danaher and Craig Jones are still, they're good.

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Oh, they're still good. Oh, yeah. Okay. They're boys.

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They're driving that side. while he's also over here working Gordon Ryan.

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Gordon Ryan's Anakin in this scenario, I guess. I don't know.

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It's going to be Darth Vader. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's going to become,

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he might, he's getting there.

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He's there. I don't know if we're on episode two or three. I'm not fully sure.

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He's already like, he's headed towards Darth Vader. Oh, big time.

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He's there. Like he was. He killed the younglings. He was the chosen one.

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He got the younglings. No, he was first.

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The younglings are done. He murked the younglings. He's already killed the younglings for sure.

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We're, we've, I don't know if he's killed Padme yet, but he's definitely getting close there.

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But who's Obi-Wan Kenobi here? Who's the one that's, I guess,

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the trigger for the saving of all of us? Could you see Donaher?

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See, my thing was, I could see Donaher.

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He's cunning and smart enough. He's like a mastermind enough to be like,

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all right, a couple years. So let's rewind a couple years. Yeah.

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I guess, episode one, Star Wars, right? Things are still kind of taking place.

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I could see him going to Craig and Gordon before they all kind of went their

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separate ways and saying, look, boys, you guys are like the heads.

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Nogi, like Nogi, you're the most entertaining guys in the sport. Out there, yeah.

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Gordon, because of his great skill, and Craig, because of his skill and his personality.

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So he's like, what if we just manufacture some controversy?

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You go over here, yeah, I mean, maybe they already didn't like each other.

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He's like, look, we're going to split. We might as well have some fun with it.

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Let's make this fan the flames a little bit. Could you see that?

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I could definitely see that. See, I think it's decent. I could see those guys

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getting together and saying, if we do things this way in the long term,

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we all make the maximum amount of money.

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That's right. Because people are going to flock to Craig as sort of like the good guy.

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He's out there making sure people aren't doing bad things. He calls people out.

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He's running cool tournaments. I want to get athletes paid all of this good stuff.

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Gordon's an a-hole in mind, you know, as far as you can tell,

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but then you meet the guy in person. He's actually really nice.

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Actually quite nice. He's the best. Yeah.

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So I could see that for sure, dude. Right, they're playing characters.

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They're playing this against each other. They're a thousand percent playing characters. Yeah.

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So, all right, so then he's got this question.

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We're having fun with the Star Wars thing. Is there an Anakin Skywalker?

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I don't know, or sorry, what was the question? Obi-Wan Kenobi?

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Yeah, who's Obi-Wan Kenobi?

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So who's like the guy out there that's a leader of, you know,

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a thought leader in jujitsu that's just not Palpatine.

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And the last good guy at the end of this all.

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It may completely disrupt our whole,

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schematic here we have a backup question too so

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it's okay oh do you oh yeah we let's let's run with it we'll

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get to that one that's a tough one because like in this era of

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jujitsu i don't know who that that would be like if we went back like 15 years

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ago it'd probably be like marcello that's marcello's a good guy unassailably

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good human being that's also amazing at jujitsu um who's who's left like that

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good question so it might not work,

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Maybe the Mendez brothers, are they nice enough? I don't know.

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I don't know. I mean, they're good. They are. They're nasty.

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Are they nice? I get some weird vibes. I get very weird vibes from them.

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Have you seen like they're, I'm going to get in trouble.

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Just do it. I just got to. You're not going to get in trouble. Look, dude. Tim, don't.

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We're already 10 minutes in. Hot takes already. Do it. Let's bring it.

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Have you seen their Instagram posts where their

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entire family are dressed in like the same color

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i have the same type of clothes i have it it's

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it's really weird i think that's girl stuff i

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think that's like i think you think it's the wife that's a big thousand

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percent well now that

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i'm saying it like the entire i will say this the entire academy

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i think they're like locked into like everyone wears white yeah in

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the gi and they all wear black nogi it's like there are

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rules so it could be a little bit of like it could be daddy mendez i

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could see but like family pictures and stuff though i think that's

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like girl that's like girls are usually like this is what we're doing like wife is

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always like we're all doing that and husband's usually like all right whatever you say yeah i

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mean am i wrong i don't know i did notice the house like is pristine

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it looks like no one even lives there you know my house is

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a fucking war zone i got a couple

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kids and it's a war zone sure you know there's

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stuff everywhere it's not like dirty you know we clean up

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but there's stuff everywhere so much cleanest you're ever going to

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see my house by the way right before you all came in here i had it cleaned really professionals

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professionals bro it's not

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clean but whatever yeah i get it it's understandable you

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all have kids i have no excuse i mean mike what do you think

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you think the mendez brothers are secretly evil or are they

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the i don't know i mean they definitely probably have a dark side i don't know

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pure evil that's what i'm saying i mean everyone wearing the same thing all

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the time it does kind of speak some like jedi vibes though they're all they're

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dressing they're getting they They have the younglings, I guess.

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I don't know. They do have the younglings. True, yeah. So maybe.

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They got a squad of younglings.

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We'll find out if Gordon kills all of their students. I think we know the answer.

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I think he could, dude. At least no gee, man. Yeah.

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But I think that has legs. I'll accept that answer. I think it might be the Mendez brothers.

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Because, like, look, despite, like, a little bit of weirdness here and there,

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they do have a gigantic kids program.

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They brought us some world beaters, dude. Oh, yeah.

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When you think about a guy like Tynan, Colabate, these

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guys are so freaking good at jiu-jitsu and

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they seem like nice kids i've never heard anything weird coming

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out of their camp either um i've never heard

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anything bad about the guys um i've never seen anything

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personally i think they're a little bit intense you know i've seen that at

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tournaments just coaching their students and stuff but i don't think there's anything

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wrong with that you know i'm a little bit intense too when i when

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i'm out yeah so yeah i'd be the mendez brothers

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guys i like it i like the mendez brothers um they're

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like an obi-wan kenobi i don't know who else

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qui-gon jen kind of like on jen i like that

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i had a it wasn't i didn't have this one queued

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up originally but i kind of want to know now uh which character is mikey musumechi

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oh my god dude in the prequel trilogy we had an answer that we but i don't know

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if it's true prequel trilogy i don't know man i couldn't say um mikey's an interesting

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figure in the community i said jar jar binks.

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Have you guys heard all the conspiracies about jar jar binks being a sith like

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yeah have you guys read no you guys are not that deep on the internet i know

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i've seen enough apparently dig into this after the podcast my internet algorithm

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is bizarre man it's got like the weird shit that I get, I get like things on giants. I get things.

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Yeah. Like definitely aliens. Yeah. Aliens and giants and like the grays and like weird.

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Anyways. Look, dude, I love my conspiracy theories.

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You know, whether that extends into pop culture stuff or like real life, you know, look, dude,

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20, 30 years ago, you know, I think conspiracy theorists got like a negative,

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you know, connotation in society, in the zeitgeist.

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But, for example, if you had asked somebody 50 years ago, hey,

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is the government spending millions and millions of dollars like loading people

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up on LSD to see if they can figure out if they can remotely view locations

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or read people's minds or move things with their brains?

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People say, you're insane. You're a conspiracy theorist. You got a tinfoil hat on, all this stuff.

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And then, you know, just a little while ago, they unseal all that stuff.

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And that's exactly what the government was doing. There are Wikipedia pages

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on this now. Yeah. They were doing exactly that.

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And who knows if those programs even got shut down for real.

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They probably did, but we don't know. Like, okay, if it was us.

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This is what i always think if it was a guy if it was us sure we're

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getting scrutinized but if something worked by the

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way and they say that by the way they say that the remote viewing stuff

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kind of works i don't know i don't know but i know they spent a long time and

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they spent a lot of money on they spent a lot so it could have been you know

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i try to use occam's razor with stuff like this the simplest solution uh is

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probably the right one however it's either to To me, it's one of two things.

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It either worked and they just buried it and they still do it.

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That's what I was going to say. Or two, the guys that were a part of the program

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made sure they kept their jobs and strung everybody that was in charge of like,

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you know, making sure the program was having any sort of positive results.

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They just lied to those guys. So they kept their little system.

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They got compartmentalized. I don't know.

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Well, that's one of those two things. What do you think? Well, that was where I was at.

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Where i was like okay so if it worked at all right and like the mk ultra stuff definitely works,

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and it happened it definitely happened like you could like i said wikipedia

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that you all can't wikipedia page mk ultra like it i would say i mean look again

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i it's it's all sort of like opaque naturally duh like that's a we're talking

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about a clandestine agency so they're like,

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by design doing stuff in secret that's like what we kind of want them to do

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but now they're doing too much of it, I think, but whatever.

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They're too good at it. They got too good at their job.

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We're not meant to know completely, but the,

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You can program, I guess, a Manchurian candidate.

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You can program a human being to do a thing, okay? And drugs,

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LSD for whatever, which we know now that they were a part of the creation of LSD. Yeah. Right?

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This is canon, I think. Yeah.

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So, Scott, this is canon. This is not even a conspiracy. That's not conspiracy.

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That's right. It's not conspiracy. That's right. It's been confirmed.

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They had professors in on this stuff.

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Like the unabomber was a part of that that stuff like he

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he was a part of they were looking for students that were brilliant but

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emotionally suggestible suggestible or

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compromised you know like um that's a

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real thing that happened so if that works like you

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said okay like you if you i guess all let's say it's all

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science experiment or whatever and they're like all right 90 of this

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didn't work for the 10 that did and it worked let's say

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that 10 worked well you're gonna stop doing it hell no

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you're gonna do it and you're gonna do it better yeah you're gonna say let's get more funding

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and you're gonna yeah you're gonna say okay well we'll just we'll hide it under this program

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over here you're right no we got rid of that program yes i've watched

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i've watched enough movies yeah we even we know that was silly it was you know

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whatever but the 10 percent of the work to move we move it over here we get

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funding from over there blah blah blah we're gonna do it 10 times more now yeah

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just best dude of course of course but anyways judge our banks tell us about

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the conspiracy because i don't know about this so i actually got in on this.

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Oh dude my kid my kid has gotten into like

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legos yeah and star wars and stuff

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like that and they have one

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of like the lego star wars things is like an all has like all the alternate

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realities because that's also the thing now too for disney metaforce multiverse

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shit yeah but so one of them has the jar jar binks sith darth darth jar jar

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binks or whatever what yeah it's fucking crazy So to circle back.

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Mikey would be Jar Jar Binks if that conspiracy is true, because I think that

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guy cannot possibly be that fucking nice.

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There's no way. He's definitely a bad guy. Nobody's that nice. I had a guy in law school.

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I'm not going to say his name just in case this comes across anyone's ears that

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I went to school with. But this guy.

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Liked everybody by his own admission.

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And I, oh, he never, we never liked each other. Cause I would just call him out on it.

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I was like, dude, there's no way you like everybody you've encountered here in law school.

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That's absolute bullshit. I have so many people I don't like.

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There's people I love, but there's also a lot of people I don't like. That's unrealistic.

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Something is wrong with you, bro. There's no, there's no way you got bodies

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in your basement or something.

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If you, you're telling me you like everybody that's not real

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fake yeah so that's my issue with mikey he

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like likes too nice he's too nice oh he's

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definitely hiding something yeah it doesn't seem real no yeah uh

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so mikey's darth jar jar lock that in darth

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musimich i think there's probably someone who thinks that he's like

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gonna be i don't know maybe thinks he's gonna

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be luke skywalker absolutely not no he's not luke

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skywalker yeah luke skywalker does not exist yet to

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the community no pat may's still alive he can't well maybe yeah

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we don't have a we don't have a luke skywalker yet is padme uh

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gordon's girlfriend oh for sure i'll say it

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she's uh she might be so we might

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actually be entering the end arc the

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end arc of the prequel trilogy for jiu-jitsu because

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yeah i think she might be at least in terms of

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the world of jiu-jitsu i think she might be getting killed

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can we can we talk about that yeah i

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don't know yes we can hot button so uh that's

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we want hot button this is actually a weird thing about gordon so gordon presents

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as just an absolute a-hole sometimes online right but um his relationship with

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with sunny is really interesting so you know according to him she like took

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care of his whole life while he was like.

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Becoming the best no-gi grappler in the world and when he was sick,

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you know, and trying to come back and do those final matches that he did.

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You know, against Galvao and then the last one against Pena and all that stuff.

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And so...

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You know, in my estimation is like a local patriarch.

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I really, I really fuck with his attitude about it, which is like,

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no matter what's going on with her, you know, cause I think she's embarrassed

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him in some ways, like the interactions with Craig and shit like that.

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And this recent stuff with, you know, her getting stopped by the cops.

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But if somebody holds you down while

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you're busy conquering the world and they're partially responsible for

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you sitting in a big house somewhere with millions of

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dollars most guys sitting in a big house with millions of

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dollars somewhere in the background there's like a wife or

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a fiance or girlfriend that's really like help them take care

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of everything else while they go conquer the world um you take care of him no

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matter what and he's kept his word on that dude no matter what she's done he

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takes good care of her and he probably should so i have to respect him as a

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man for keeping his word along those lines because i think it's the right thing

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to do actually i could 100 seeing him taking care of his people.

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Who took care of him like you said i mean he seems like

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he doesn't have i mean he's definitely like very

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he's a heel he can be a heel he is a

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heel and so he'll he'll shoot shots at anybody you know that's like coming at

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him publicly or whatever like that's obvious yeah but like any dude who does

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that he's his crew that he's tight with he's gonna take good care of him 100

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he's got a park and spout out front for John Danner at his gym,

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I've noticed even watching everyone watches videos that come out from Kingsway

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and stuff like that just to see what he's doing technically.

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Man, that guy won't even let anybody roll into John.

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I think that kind of loyalty towards the people that have helped you is admirable.

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Whether you like Gordon or not.

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He knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing presentation-wise. No question about it.

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Are we out of conspiracies? There's no way we're out of conspiracies.

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We can definitely find some more.

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There's a lot to talk about. There's so many. There's a lot to talk about. You guys tell me.

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What I've been thinking about a lot lately is just what's going on in the country,

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dude. Okay. Kind of strange.

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What do you got for us? You know, look, I'll stay politically agnostic, but I am an American.

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You know, I was a former service member.

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Dude, you got an American flag on your shirt right now. You're a red-letter American.

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And in law school, I was really into what's called process theory.

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So for me, you could be right-wing, left-wing, whatever. You can feel how you

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want to feel, libertarian.

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But the process by which we go about things in America is super important.

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So due process, habeas corpus. You know, if somebody accuses you,

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they got to show up in court and open court and say, you did this and you can

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respond. That kind of stuff.

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Presidents should provide their tax returns before they get elected. Um.

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There's a lot of things that started just getting thrown out of the window,

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you know, 10, 15 years ago that we should have never allowed to be thrown out

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of the window because it turns out that this stuff,

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these like little checks and balances are super important for America to remain

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the great place that it is.

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And so as an American citizen that cares about that process,

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I've been very like disturbed lately about how things are going.

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Even going back to small stuff like, hey, this guy's coming into office.

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He won't provide his tax returns.

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For me as a citizen, it's like I don't really care whether this guy is Republican

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or Democrat or whatever.

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I want to see your tax returns. So I know Russia doesn't have fucking $15 million

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of debt on the books for you. You know what I mean?

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Because that might mean you are a Manchurian candidate. You're compromised in

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some way. Some other country might have something over your head.

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Some corporation might have something over your head. And thus,

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they can control you when you're in office. And that's inappropriate for a U.S. president.

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So we let a lot of little stuff kind of go over the years. like Mitch McConnell

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not giving Merrick Garland a hearing when he was supposed to go to the Supreme Court.

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Little stuff like that. And we're just like, okay, we'll get him on the other end.

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No, man, that's really part and parcel of how the country's got to work to remain a good place.

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And so we've thrown so many things out of the window.

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I'm worried about what the country is right now.

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That's apolitical. I'm concerned about that just as an American that enjoys

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the rights that we have here as a hero. That's it. I have...

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Wondered myself so like let's

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see okay what i've observed

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a politically these are just like this is what's happened in

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the last like 15 or 20 years what i

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have seen because there's like with with

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the i i think the thread that you're kind of on here um it

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it looks perhaps it

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looks like we are guiding

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we're sort of falling into this pendulum swing of

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like hard left hard right and like

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it's whether or not there's realities of

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either one of the far

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ends of the spectrum actually taking.

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Over you're presented with this threat that

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someone on the hard left is going to change your life

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if you're anywhere center or right and so

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then you freak out and i

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guess my way of saying right you know prior to donald trump

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or even with donald trump during donald

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trump i will because this dude's been around for a minute but like

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politically around for like what like since the the

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lead up to 2016 before that so we're looking at like almost

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12 years yeah and he's been a big public figure since for our entire

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lives yeah but so he used

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to be a democrat too that's that's right yeah that's right and he

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um yeah i mean whatever he's a political he's like a dude likes the spotlight

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right so he kind of he's like oh if there's an opportunity i'll step up i'll

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do it right so that's that's him whatever but so like i i guess what i'm getting

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to is i want to know if that same thread there's some books somewhere around

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here i got a bunch there's a book right there it's right there it's the uh.

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The storm before the storm by whatever that it's a book

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about the fall of the roman republic in the

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the the i guess the the chess pieces the

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the dominoes that fell a couple

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generations before julius caesar steps in and

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basically puts an end to the republic right

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i've studied i like caesar he's like a just a fascinating

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person to study and i've got there's like one of

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those books i've watched listen to podcasts he's

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fascinating dude um and i bring him

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up because like him if you you guys

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know anything about caesar yeah a little bit about a decent amount right so like

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he i think he probably believed that he was going to come in and prior to him

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and that that book is really about like the generations of reformers in rome

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who were trying their best to resolve like the like political issues that had

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gotten so grandiose they're like if we don't do anything about this,

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this is gonna be a problem.

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And those dudes trying to reform were threatening the powers that be to such

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an extent that multiple generations of dudes, they ended up just getting assassinated.

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Yeah, back then, dude.

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So for real, they got assassinated, and the dudes who were, I guess,

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just the generations right below that who saw it were like parts of the armies

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or the political gangs that actually did the assassinations were like.

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All right, well, when I come of age, how am I going to not get assassinated?

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The way I'm not going to get assassinated is I'm going to get an army.

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I'm just going to take over.

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So there's multiple waves of, like, civil wars of dudes coming and being,

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like, temporary dictators.

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By the time Caesar comes around, he's like, all right, we got to fix this ship,

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but I actually have to be dictator to do that. Right? We know how that ended.

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And then he ends that, and then Caesar's nephew, and, like, the dudes who stop

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him, the guys who killed him probably believed, like, we're saving the Republic.

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But it was at that point that ship had sailed. Yeah, it was beyond the point of saving.

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So if we want to draw and then it was something

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else forever after it was never

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never that again yeah it was never that again so

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are we heading in a direction now we're like we're just kind of being primed for

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like this instability and i think things are

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obviously like we have a pretty good life like you

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said i would like to maintain like amazing things are great right so

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like do we need that no we don't need that

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but i don't actually think it's that bad but we're

00:24:03.542 --> 00:24:06.662
constantly being led to believe that everything's falling apart like

00:24:06.662 --> 00:24:09.582
what you see on you know instagram or the news or whatever things

00:24:09.582 --> 00:24:12.222
everything's a major crisis and there are definitely things that need

00:24:12.222 --> 00:24:15.242
to be fixed for sure but can we chill

00:24:15.242 --> 00:24:19.862
a little bit and so trump in the you know left and right or whatever and so

00:24:19.862 --> 00:24:24.602
like basically to your point and we're going to talk about like just facts not

00:24:24.602 --> 00:24:29.362
political but not political like hey look now we're like overthrowing dictators

00:24:29.362 --> 00:24:32.542
in south america Now we're like telling Greenland,

00:24:32.762 --> 00:24:35.202
we're going to come in and be like, this belongs to us now. Like we're looking

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a lot more like an empire.

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A hundred percent. Like we've always been an empire.

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Roe was an empire when it was still a republic. It just got too big.

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So we're like, nope, empire makes sense now, I guess.

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I mean, it did for a while. You start saying it out loud.

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Right. That's kind of what I'm getting to. It's like, oh, it's starting to look

00:24:50.982 --> 00:24:52.182
like, I mean, now we're expanding.

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So we have been that for many years. We have bases, military bases all over

00:24:57.062 --> 00:25:04.282
the freaking world. but now we're like openly imperialist but at the same time here at home.

00:25:05.002 --> 00:25:08.402
We want our rights. We're being restricted in a way that we never have been.

00:25:08.602 --> 00:25:15.042
So it's like we're losing our freedom at the same time this current administration

00:25:15.042 --> 00:25:17.422
is going out and being openly imperialist again.

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We're going to take this stuff that we need, that we want, because who's going to do anything about it?

00:25:23.902 --> 00:25:28.562
So it's interesting kind of watching the world, certain other world powers kind

00:25:28.562 --> 00:25:32.382
of allying against us and just seeing how all that's going to go internationally.

00:25:32.862 --> 00:25:38.422
Here at home, though, I'm concerned about simple things like the Fourth Amendment,

00:25:38.462 --> 00:25:41.182
you know, being treaded on, which I don't like.

00:25:41.342 --> 00:25:45.402
It's weird to see, like, there's a big group of Americans that have always been— And that's due process?

00:25:45.922 --> 00:25:47.982
No, no, like Fourth Amendment. Yeah, sort of. Yeah.

00:25:49.082 --> 00:25:53.322
Fourth Amendment covers like, you know, your freedom from illegal surgency.

00:25:53.382 --> 00:25:55.522
Okay. Your right to privacy, stuff like that.

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That stuff, man, has been under attack for a long time, going all the way back

00:26:03.722 --> 00:26:08.722
to like stop and frisk in New York, and has in many ways been eviscerated over

00:26:08.722 --> 00:26:10.502
the last like couple decades, in my opinion.

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And I really don't like that. That's my problem. I'm like, I don't want the

00:26:14.342 --> 00:26:19.022
government coming to my house and trying to get in my door without a warrant.

00:26:19.202 --> 00:26:22.062
I don't want Americans being pulled out of their cars.

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I don't want people, I don't want ICE going door to door, not door to door.

00:26:27.542 --> 00:26:30.942
You know, if you know there's an illegal immigrant there and you want to go

00:26:30.942 --> 00:26:34.582
get them, that's the prerogative of any government to like have a.

00:26:38.598 --> 00:26:41.778
Under a legal means. I don't have some issue with that. I never have.

00:26:42.138 --> 00:26:43.838
However, I don't want. Can I ask you a question about that? Yeah,

00:26:43.878 --> 00:26:46.258
yeah, please, please. Well, okay, so, I mean, your background was,

00:26:46.418 --> 00:26:47.818
look, people were listening, they haven't figured out.

00:26:47.918 --> 00:26:51.318
Tim's background was he was an attorney. Like, so he's legally educated on these things, right?

00:26:51.598 --> 00:26:55.218
So, if I may, on that thread, dude.

00:26:55.758 --> 00:26:59.558
All right, so if we're going to have law enforcement, follow the law, right?

00:26:59.658 --> 00:27:02.678
Like, have, you have to have, I guess, at least

00:27:02.678 --> 00:27:07.378
probable cause or maybe a judge issued

00:27:07.378 --> 00:27:10.038
weren't to do what you're talking about and these okay so here's where it

00:27:10.038 --> 00:27:13.298
gets crazy i'm with you man like we can't lose these rights we can't

00:27:13.298 --> 00:27:16.178
we can't lose these rights man that's something i think everyone should agree

00:27:16.178 --> 00:27:19.158
upon and one of my issues what i said earlier was like okay we have this left

00:27:19.158 --> 00:27:23.298
right thing like and it always looks a lot better to start to hand away your

00:27:23.298 --> 00:27:29.558
rights to the dudes the right wing who who present this like rah rah old school

00:27:29.558 --> 00:27:32.318
american like we're the ones who are going to protect your rights but really

00:27:32.318 --> 00:27:35.778
we're actually not so it looks better And we're never going to do this to you.

00:27:36.198 --> 00:27:40.418
Everybody's always fine, like throwing their rights away. If they feel like

00:27:40.418 --> 00:27:44.318
the people they're throwing their rights away to, the people they're giving

00:27:44.318 --> 00:27:46.358
power to are not going to bother them.

00:27:46.498 --> 00:27:49.578
But they always will eventually come and bother you. A thousand percent.

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And if you like to read history, obviously, Scott, I'm just looking at your

00:27:52.698 --> 00:27:53.898
bookshelf. No, I mean, I agree with you.

00:27:54.058 --> 00:27:58.018
They will always come for you eventually when they're done.

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You know, screwing over all the other people, the others, whoever those, uh, those people are.

00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:11.299
So that's my problem, man. Like ICE has no jurisdiction at all whatsoever legally

00:28:11.299 --> 00:28:13.619
over American citizens at all.

00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:19.639
They can detain you for some de minimis amount of time to check and see if you're

00:28:19.639 --> 00:28:23.219
an American citizen, if they're operating in an area. So yes,

00:28:23.379 --> 00:28:26.379
they could walk up to you, to us on the street and be like, hey,

00:28:26.479 --> 00:28:27.799
are you guys American citizens?

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And once we make it clear that we are, we hand them a real ID or something like

00:28:31.859 --> 00:28:34.019
that. Here's my social security number.

00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.459
Run it. Check it. As soon as they know you're a U.S. citizen,

00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.059
they need to get the fuck out of your face, like period.

00:28:41.399 --> 00:28:45.039
So I've seen too much stuff on the news where these guys are shooting people,

00:28:45.219 --> 00:28:47.739
fucking with people's cars, pulling people out of their car.

00:28:48.199 --> 00:28:52.999
Blah, blah, blah, etc. For people that are obviously Americans, what are you doing?

00:28:53.199 --> 00:28:57.439
Like, what are we doing like as a society even being okay with that?

00:28:57.639 --> 00:29:01.739
You know, it should be like, look, you guys have the prerogative to go get illegal aliens.

00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.739
There are people on the left, right? Whatever that are going to have issues

00:29:05.739 --> 00:29:08.199
with that. You should leave these people alone. I don't care.

00:29:08.459 --> 00:29:12.079
Like if they came in the country illegally, then the government has a right

00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.899
to like remove them if they want to.

00:29:14.059 --> 00:29:16.759
I don't know that that should be a priority, but they have a right to do it.

00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:18.159
So I'm not going to argue with that.

00:29:18.259 --> 00:29:23.039
But why are you fucking with Americans when you don't have the jurisdiction to even touch them?

00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.299
You can ask them if they're an American citizen and you can verify and that's it.

00:29:26.499 --> 00:29:31.419
You know where it gets creepy for me, too, is you have these like sophisticated

00:29:31.419 --> 00:29:32.959
technologies like Palantir.

00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.099
That's so scary. It's very scary. It's very scary.

00:29:37.259 --> 00:29:41.719
But look, OK, so you have this stuff and clearly you want to use it and you've

00:29:41.719 --> 00:29:45.739
definitely used it overseas. Like I believe Israel uses Palantir very easily.

00:29:46.260 --> 00:29:49.100
Intensely to ascertain who is a threat

00:29:49.100 --> 00:29:52.300
who isn't a threat so like that's i think that's what one of their products sponsors

00:29:52.300 --> 00:29:55.220
a company but one of their products is like designed to do that to say

00:29:55.220 --> 00:29:58.300
this person is a threat deal with that person okay so

00:29:58.300 --> 00:30:01.420
you have the technology that's allegedly i believe

00:30:01.420 --> 00:30:04.140
if its company's worth as much as it's worth it's probably pretty effective

00:30:04.140 --> 00:30:09.020
technology you can figure out who is and who isn't a citizen yeah okay so there

00:30:09.020 --> 00:30:12.560
you go so then why are you hassling citizens what what's actually going on here

00:30:12.560 --> 00:30:15.880
right so you're right it's it's it's i guess what i'm saying is Like if you

00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.500
have this really useful technology that can actually,

00:30:20.040 --> 00:30:22.580
and you can approach this from like whatever perspective you want.

00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:28.100
Let's say you guys really actually want to just be good at enforcing immigration

00:30:28.100 --> 00:30:30.780
issues and you have the resources to do it.

00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.160
Wouldn't it make sense just administratively to kind of allocate your people

00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:39.300
and your time to that and not to dealing with crowds, not to like.

00:30:39.300 --> 00:30:42.180
Yeah, these guys should have, like, something on them where they can connect

00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:45.160
to a system. You can punch in someone's name, maybe a social,

00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:50.000
maybe an ID number and be like, this dude has paid taxes for the past 25 years.

00:30:50.420 --> 00:30:54.460
He was born in Indiana. This is an American. So I need legally...

00:30:55.118 --> 00:30:58.718
But out of his face. I don't have any jurisdiction over it. It's not a good use of your time.

00:30:58.898 --> 00:31:01.478
And like, okay, like I said, that whole thing creeps me out anyways.

00:31:01.538 --> 00:31:06.278
But like, okay, you got it. And you can use it. So like, I guess use it correctly.

00:31:07.118 --> 00:31:10.178
And I'm sure they would say that they're being obstructed. And that's why they're

00:31:10.178 --> 00:31:11.158
blah, blah, blah. I don't know.

00:31:12.558 --> 00:31:15.418
But it is, it's creepy, dude. The whole thing is creepy. And yeah,

00:31:15.478 --> 00:31:19.398
dude, what's going on here is bizarre. It's bizarre. It's very concerning.

00:31:21.258 --> 00:31:24.778
Also, another thing that's really bothering me lately as an American is,

00:31:25.118 --> 00:31:33.998
our treasury being pillaged, uh, by our own politicians and now the administration.

00:31:34.238 --> 00:31:38.158
I think that's always been happening a little bit on both sides.

00:31:38.338 --> 00:31:41.558
Uh, all of these politicians are rich. I used to work on Capitol Hill.

00:31:41.918 --> 00:31:45.698
Uh, my favorite story to tell people if they, they're too right wing or left

00:31:45.698 --> 00:31:49.698
wing is like, Hey, it's actually not right versus left. It's just.

00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.420
The people that have a lot of resources, it's really like a class thing,

00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:58.620
but people don't realize that.

00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:03.260
You would go and see Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell.

00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.280
Politically mortal enemies, they're super friendly in person.

00:32:06.300 --> 00:32:09.860
They like each other. They're both like rich Americans.

00:32:10.140 --> 00:32:14.080
They don't really have any beef the way they want you to believe.

00:32:14.100 --> 00:32:17.000
They all belong to the same club that you are not a part of.

00:32:17.040 --> 00:32:18.840
Gordon and Craig? Gordon and Craig.

00:32:19.780 --> 00:32:22.220
Why are they enemies, dude? They're making money together. Yeah,

00:32:22.340 --> 00:32:25.260
they're selling hundreds of thousands of dollars in instructionals every month.

00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.780
They're the masters. Yeah, they're fine, dude. They're just taking the playbook.

00:32:27.940 --> 00:32:29.300
Palpatine's taking the playbook from them.

00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:33.220
He's like, look, dude, everyone can insider trade and make hundreds of millions

00:32:33.220 --> 00:32:36.160
of dollars if we play this the right way. I was literally just about to mention

00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:37.320
the insider trading thing.

00:32:37.460 --> 00:32:42.940
That was actually the whole reason Gordon was traveling to all the stuff for the inauguration.

00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.460
Oh, yeah. He was really just going to get the playbook. Well,

00:32:45.540 --> 00:32:50.240
look, dude, if I were a super rich American, which we're all working on,

00:32:50.540 --> 00:32:52.760
Tell me about it. I'd love to be one of those. Yeah.

00:32:53.100 --> 00:32:59.100
I want to, you know, as I get older, guys, I'm just going to say this hot take

00:32:59.100 --> 00:33:02.980
politically, you know, I want social freedom for people.

00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.820
I want people to be mostly left alone by the government. I think I like honestly

00:33:06.820 --> 00:33:08.760
lean libertarian more than anything else.

00:33:08.760 --> 00:33:12.760
I just want the government to leave me alone, um, and take care of the things

00:33:12.760 --> 00:33:18.400
that are necessary, like, you know, safety and public works and stuff like that.

00:33:18.940 --> 00:33:23.300
Um, the older I get, the more I'm like inclined to vote for whoever's gonna let me,

00:33:24.078 --> 00:33:27.838
Most of my money. That's right. Which is effed up. It's tough,

00:33:27.838 --> 00:33:31.198
man. That's just how it is. No, I don't think that's effed up at all. I mean, I get it, dude.

00:33:32.558 --> 00:33:35.318
The concern, like you said, it is a class thing at the end of the day.

00:33:35.498 --> 00:33:42.118
And I think what's tough, the situation we've been put in, for better or worse,

00:33:42.118 --> 00:33:43.198
and we're going to make the most of it, right?

00:33:43.258 --> 00:33:45.818
Because no one's coming to save us. We've got to take care of ourselves.

00:33:46.078 --> 00:33:46.558
We've got to save ourselves.

00:33:46.878 --> 00:33:49.058
That's just the way it's always going to be. And like you said,

00:33:49.178 --> 00:33:50.478
it's like, get off my money, man.

00:33:50.558 --> 00:33:53.778
Because that's kind of, for better or worse, that's

00:33:53.778 --> 00:33:56.658
how you take care of yourself i'm a local dad dude i want to keep just

00:33:56.658 --> 00:33:59.518
my money take care of yourself i don't want i don't want my money

00:33:59.518 --> 00:34:05.338
sent to i can't even say this i don't want my my money sent to foreign countries

00:34:05.338 --> 00:34:09.398
get it to help them out i get it we're sending like so much money to countries

00:34:09.398 --> 00:34:13.518
that have universal health care and then we have americans that are going broke

00:34:13.518 --> 00:34:18.618
they got to file bankruptcy because they broke their leg so that's that's fucking wild, man.

00:34:18.758 --> 00:34:23.278
Like, I don't give a fuck about that country in some like grand scheme of things. I hope they're okay.

00:34:23.438 --> 00:34:26.998
But I don't give a fuck about them to the detriment of like my kids.

00:34:27.258 --> 00:34:29.758
That's right. That's like wild that we're doing that, you know?

00:34:29.938 --> 00:34:33.038
So like so prices and stuff are going up over here.

00:34:33.418 --> 00:34:37.698
Insurance premiums are going up over here. We have like people in administration

00:34:37.698 --> 00:34:39.138
just looting the treasury.

00:34:39.278 --> 00:34:43.278
Like, here's $200 million to my buddy's like media company to make some stupid

00:34:43.278 --> 00:34:44.398
ad where I'm riding a horse.

00:34:45.144 --> 00:34:48.024
Christy no are you fucking kidding me they're just

00:34:48.024 --> 00:34:51.344
looting the treasury and then we're sending billions of

00:34:51.344 --> 00:34:54.084
dollars to other countries that have health care and shit for their

00:34:54.084 --> 00:34:57.544
citizens oh yeah what the fuck are we doing we're sorry i just gotta say it

00:34:57.544 --> 00:35:00.324
like that you're right are we doing this is why i asked that question earlier

00:35:00.324 --> 00:35:04.724
about like here's the thought i don't know the answer obviously but thought

00:35:04.724 --> 00:35:08.904
exercise what if these guys the current administration what if they read the

00:35:08.904 --> 00:35:12.244
room on that hey like look we've destroyed our purchasing power of our dollar

00:35:12.244 --> 00:35:13.964
everyone people with savings,

00:35:14.184 --> 00:35:16.744
like the money that you're sitting on and saving, it's not going to buy what

00:35:16.744 --> 00:35:20.984
it was, what it would buy you six years ago. It's just, that's, that's gone.

00:35:21.364 --> 00:35:23.964
I don't know what that amount is. Let's say it's 20%, but a lot.

00:35:24.544 --> 00:35:27.344
Um, maybe it's not 20%, someone who knows this shit, but it's,

00:35:27.344 --> 00:35:28.544
it's lost its purchasing power.

00:35:28.984 --> 00:35:32.544
Um, we are an empire. Hey, Trump's been in office before.

00:35:32.644 --> 00:35:35.124
He kind of saw he was, he was the outsider. He's going to come,

00:35:35.184 --> 00:35:37.364
he's going to disrupt you. He gets in there and he's like, Oh fuck,

00:35:37.404 --> 00:35:38.364
it's worse than I thought.

00:35:38.604 --> 00:35:41.704
I can't disrupt anything. And guess what? four years in office people are coming

00:35:41.704 --> 00:35:44.844
after me right so this is what politics looks like once you actually get in

00:35:44.844 --> 00:35:47.444
there maybe he wants to do all this shit maybe he doesn't want to do its whole

00:35:47.444 --> 00:35:50.824
dance don't know but let's just say thought exercise he does he comes in he

00:35:50.824 --> 00:35:52.104
realizes this is shit it's more

00:35:52.104 --> 00:35:55.584
fucked up than i thought okay he gets pilloried for four years gets out.

00:35:56.344 --> 00:36:00.084
Loses to biden comes back and this time he's like all right gloves are off we're

00:36:00.084 --> 00:36:05.444
doing it this way yeah i can't change certain things inside the government we're

00:36:05.444 --> 00:36:08.304
on this course towards empire we're going to have to take some shit.

00:36:08.864 --> 00:36:11.944
We're going to have to take some shit and we're going to have to dismantle some of the government.

00:36:12.104 --> 00:36:16.324
Like, and the take some shit is like, take Maduro out, steal the oil,

00:36:16.824 --> 00:36:19.524
Greenland, okay, Iran. Yeah, because it's at the top of the fucking earth.

00:36:19.664 --> 00:36:21.624
Like, it's a great spot. It's a great spot.

00:36:22.184 --> 00:36:26.084
I'm not defending it. I'm asking, I mean, yeah, I mean, like I said,

00:36:26.164 --> 00:36:29.204
what would we do if we were like, if it's a game of risk. You can get everywhere

00:36:29.204 --> 00:36:32.364
from Greenland. If it's a game of risk, it's like, I'm not saying he's playing

00:36:32.364 --> 00:36:35.144
the game of risk the wrong way, to be honest with you. Um...

00:36:35.989 --> 00:36:38.789
And I'm not defending this. I'm just saying, like, maybe that's the reality

00:36:38.789 --> 00:36:41.669
situation where he's like, if I could try to undo the shit, it ain't working.

00:36:41.909 --> 00:36:44.169
Steve Bannon said as much. Did he?

00:36:44.569 --> 00:36:48.189
Like, incoming, when they were coming into the first Trump administration.

00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:53.869
Steve Bannon's an interesting figure who I weirdly agree with.

00:36:53.969 --> 00:36:56.749
He's a populist. He, like, actually believes in Americans. He's kind of a populist,

00:36:56.849 --> 00:37:01.409
but his way of doing that was like, we have to take control of the government so we can dismantle it.

00:37:01.809 --> 00:37:05.869
That's what he wanted to do. People have forgotten he said that because it was so long ago.

00:37:05.989 --> 00:37:09.069
Now and people have short memories, but I remember what Steve Bannon said,

00:37:09.149 --> 00:37:10.829
cause I thought it was interesting at the time.

00:37:11.009 --> 00:37:14.049
Uh, and I wanted to see, I was curious to see how it was going to play out.

00:37:14.229 --> 00:37:18.589
And so now that Trump's, I didn't expect Trump to get back in office. I will say that.

00:37:18.889 --> 00:37:21.709
Um, but now he's back in office and they're,

00:37:21.789 --> 00:37:25.729
they're doing some of that stuff or they've said they were going to do some

00:37:25.729 --> 00:37:29.409
of that stuff, but instead they've decided to just loot the treasury,

00:37:29.409 --> 00:37:35.349
take care of their friends and do a bunch of stuff. I don't agree with that.

00:37:35.609 --> 00:37:40.209
I think it's bullshit that it's like so bad. They deserve to be removed from,

00:37:40.309 --> 00:37:44.029
from power. But if they come back in and say, we're going to continue this work

00:37:44.029 --> 00:37:46.089
of dismantling the government, um.

00:37:46.909 --> 00:37:50.429
I would have been all for it, but they're not doing that. I think he's consolidating

00:37:50.429 --> 00:37:53.829
his power. They're consolidating his power and turning America into something else.

00:37:54.209 --> 00:37:57.109
That's the concern. That's what we're talking about. That's actually the concern.

00:37:57.549 --> 00:38:01.769
Well, and kind of like related to that point, because you were touching on like

00:38:01.769 --> 00:38:04.149
the relinquishing of rights and stuff like that.

00:38:04.149 --> 00:38:07.369
Um and how it all

00:38:07.369 --> 00:38:10.589
i guess like in recent time is what 24 years

00:38:10.589 --> 00:38:13.569
ago 2001 when like everyone was

00:38:13.569 --> 00:38:17.969
willing to start giving up some of that for national security right like 9-11

00:38:17.969 --> 00:38:21.769
and we all start giving up that little bit little bit over the past like two

00:38:21.769 --> 00:38:27.689
decades um because it was convenient or it was you know it was it felt like

00:38:27.689 --> 00:38:30.769
the right thing to do over time and or at the time Right.

00:38:30.849 --> 00:38:34.669
It was like, oh, well, this will help protect us from terrorists abroad, whatever.

00:38:35.049 --> 00:38:40.269
And we just slowly start giving that little bit away because the whether it's

00:38:40.269 --> 00:38:44.689
like, all right, this is I agree with this person and why they're doing that.

00:38:44.829 --> 00:38:48.709
So I'm going to I'm willing to give that up. And then we it just happened a

00:38:48.709 --> 00:38:49.769
little bit from each side.

00:38:49.849 --> 00:38:55.109
Everyone, everyone, regardless of what, you know, what their political leanings

00:38:55.109 --> 00:38:59.489
were, start like slowly giving up that little bit at a time until you can't

00:38:59.489 --> 00:39:01.749
take it back because the precedent's been set.

00:39:01.749 --> 00:39:07.009
But it was America versus the world back then, or at least they built it as

00:39:07.009 --> 00:39:10.589
America versus the terrorists, whatever that means.

00:39:11.609 --> 00:39:16.529
At the time, I remember I was 16 years old sitting in a calculus class in high

00:39:16.529 --> 00:39:21.849
school and 9-11 happened and they rolled in like the TV and we all watched it.

00:39:21.849 --> 00:39:23.429
I still remember when that happened.

00:39:23.569 --> 00:39:28.189
It's kind of a crazy, crazy moment in American history for people around, around our age.

00:39:29.629 --> 00:39:37.049
But so it was America versus the world. And we should have known something like the Patriot Act.

00:39:37.189 --> 00:39:42.589
You sign that maybe we needed it. Maybe we didn't to like solve the issues we were facing, but,

00:39:43.506 --> 00:39:49.866
Fast forward 20, 25 years to we're getting, in my opinion, we're getting towards

00:39:49.866 --> 00:39:52.046
the logical end of a two-party system.

00:39:52.406 --> 00:39:57.286
So I started seeing it like 10, 15 years ago. The Tea Party started to happen.

00:39:57.366 --> 00:39:59.586
You start to see these more extreme candidates.

00:39:59.826 --> 00:40:06.946
So we have like Donald Trump now, who is like, you know, some sort of function of this like extremism.

00:40:07.186 --> 00:40:10.906
We have people like Marjorie Taylor Greene. We have people like,

00:40:10.986 --> 00:40:15.246
you know, Bernie Sanders has been around for a while, but he's an extremist in a certain way.

00:40:15.746 --> 00:40:20.146
You know, Elizabeth Warren was like a milder version of that.

00:40:20.366 --> 00:40:23.586
And then we have like, you know, the new crop of politicians.

00:40:24.186 --> 00:40:27.646
Momdani, right? So you have this extremism and it's going to continue,

00:40:27.846 --> 00:40:30.726
right? Because that's how a two-party system is eventually going to play out.

00:40:31.006 --> 00:40:35.546
You start with Bill Clinton and like, you know, and George Bush, right?

00:40:35.746 --> 00:40:39.246
These guys are pretty much the same. They're not going to do too much fucked

00:40:39.246 --> 00:40:41.546
up on either side of the aisle.

00:40:41.886 --> 00:40:43.746
And America is going to be very stable.

00:40:45.546 --> 00:40:50.686
And then to win your primary, you start having to get a little bit more extreme.

00:40:51.186 --> 00:40:55.806
These damn liberals, these damn whatever, Tea Party people.

00:40:55.966 --> 00:41:00.646
And then you keep inching further and further away from the center,

00:41:00.686 --> 00:41:01.926
which is what's happening.

00:41:02.086 --> 00:41:05.506
And then you get a Donald Trump eventually. or you get, you know,

00:41:05.606 --> 00:41:07.486
say AOC had won or Mom Donnie had won.

00:41:07.746 --> 00:41:09.806
Maybe Mom Donnie's president. You know, imagine that.

00:41:10.306 --> 00:41:12.706
Super extreme on one end and you have Donald Trump,

00:41:13.538 --> 00:41:17.378
Not really super extreme on either end. He's just like a guy that likes to be in the spotlight.

00:41:17.638 --> 00:41:20.058
He's just a big figure, yeah. But his cabinet, super extreme on one end.

00:41:20.238 --> 00:41:24.298
You got people that are like fundamentalist Christians, like women should be

00:41:24.298 --> 00:41:28.718
at home having babies and not be hurt. There are people like that in the administration.

00:41:28.898 --> 00:41:32.898
You have Stephen Miller, who is like, was obviously relentlessly bullied and

00:41:32.898 --> 00:41:35.018
now has some power, and he's being really negative.

00:41:35.338 --> 00:41:38.138
As a result, you can just see that, dude.

00:41:38.218 --> 00:41:40.658
Yeah. Videos of the guy from high school, like, holy shit. Damn.

00:41:40.658 --> 00:41:45.418
He should never have been given power over anything because he's one of those

00:41:45.418 --> 00:41:51.218
guys, you know, that grows up to, I don't know, become a cop or something because they got bullied.

00:41:52.338 --> 00:41:55.458
But we have this extremism and it's just going to continue, I think,

00:41:55.598 --> 00:41:57.238
until something like drastic happens.

00:41:57.438 --> 00:42:01.958
Like the whole fucking government has changed from some sort of like representative

00:42:01.958 --> 00:42:04.678
republic to whatever Donald Trump wants to do. Right. You know?

00:42:04.958 --> 00:42:09.518
Well, like you said, the tracks were laid 25 years ago.

00:42:09.938 --> 00:42:13.818
20 plus years ago. I have a book I want you to read. It's called American Theocracy.

00:42:14.018 --> 00:42:16.438
Send it. It's all about just how- I'll write it down.

00:42:16.698 --> 00:42:21.538
Yeah, yeah, write it down. It's one of the most prescient books I've ever read

00:42:21.538 --> 00:42:24.958
about kind of like how politics started to change in America where,

00:42:25.218 --> 00:42:28.678
you know, like kind of Bible-thumping Americans, nothing wrong with that if you're religious,

00:42:29.218 --> 00:42:33.258
started to really embed themselves into right-wing politics and how that has

00:42:33.258 --> 00:42:37.298
changed like the structure of American politics over time.

00:42:37.298 --> 00:42:40.078
You can look just here in Virginia with that, right?

00:42:40.238 --> 00:42:43.918
Like, um, not, I guess he's no longer, well, I don't know, but,

00:42:43.918 --> 00:42:45.818
uh, former governor Youngkin, right?

00:42:45.898 --> 00:42:51.658
Like that was a big part of his campaign was like, and even to the point of, um,

00:42:52.518 --> 00:42:57.838
vetoing things that were voted on by the people of the state for just his,

00:42:57.838 --> 00:43:02.498
yeah, cannabis for his, like for his personal, like, yeah, no,

00:43:02.698 --> 00:43:04.518
you can't get up in Virginia.

00:43:04.977 --> 00:43:07.777
There you go. That's paternalistic, right? He took our porn.

00:43:07.917 --> 00:43:11.897
He took the porn. Oh, there you go. Is that probably a good thing?

00:43:12.117 --> 00:43:15.277
Probably. I don't think kids should be looking at porn or should be difficult

00:43:15.277 --> 00:43:17.277
for me to do it. At the very least.

00:43:18.617 --> 00:43:22.797
But priorities. But what is the government's job is my issue with it.

00:43:22.857 --> 00:43:26.797
It's a process thing, right? I don't think the government should be too engaged

00:43:26.797 --> 00:43:30.377
in any sort of moralizing to the populace.

00:43:30.457 --> 00:43:33.217
I think they should just do their job, like administer the republic,

00:43:33.697 --> 00:43:34.877
make sure there's roads.

00:43:34.977 --> 00:43:38.177
Make sure there's running water stuff like that the rest of the stuff should

00:43:38.177 --> 00:43:42.997
probably be left to the zeitgeist the people to figure out how we are and so

00:43:42.997 --> 00:43:44.397
one thing i thought that was,

00:43:44.997 --> 00:43:47.857
kind of eye-opening there were a lot of eye-opening things about

00:43:47.857 --> 00:43:52.097
the pandemic but one of the ones that um i

00:43:52.097 --> 00:43:55.197
was gonna say kind of gave me hope i just it was a reminder that

00:43:55.197 --> 00:43:58.517
this it's a federal system right so

00:43:58.517 --> 00:44:01.237
during the pandemic when this people i

00:44:01.237 --> 00:44:03.997
think people learned i learned you probably learned this we're business

00:44:03.997 --> 00:44:07.537
owners the governors do have a

00:44:07.537 --> 00:44:10.857
tremendous amount of authority yeah and it's

00:44:10.857 --> 00:44:14.117
designed that way and so hey you

00:44:14.117 --> 00:44:19.177
know like we had our issues the whole world had issues i i guess it's a silver

00:44:19.177 --> 00:44:22.817
lining one thing that i thought was actually decent that we learned in that

00:44:22.817 --> 00:44:26.497
process was that like all right like the feds can only do so much and they tried

00:44:26.497 --> 00:44:32.257
they tried to do a lot but states were where the law was kind of laid down for

00:44:32.257 --> 00:44:33.937
people like we were waiting on state guidelines.

00:44:34.097 --> 00:44:37.117
At the time, it was the dude before Duncan. What was his name?

00:44:37.817 --> 00:44:40.897
Whatever. McAuliffe. That guy, Terry McAuliffe. Yeah, Terry McAuliffe.

00:44:40.977 --> 00:44:43.957
And look. There's only been like three governors.

00:44:45.817 --> 00:44:50.437
Well, Virginia's limited to one term. At a time. You can rerun. You just can't be.

00:44:50.877 --> 00:44:53.437
You can't be back. Yeah, you can't be back to back. Which is probably a good

00:44:53.437 --> 00:44:57.417
thing. But anyways, it kind of showed you.

00:44:57.737 --> 00:44:59.857
I think this is your point, Tim, which is that.

00:45:01.376 --> 00:45:04.716
This is old school American system. Like we have a pretty good system if we

00:45:04.716 --> 00:45:06.576
hold onto it, if we can hold onto it.

00:45:06.936 --> 00:45:12.056
Um, because the low, the more localized things are, the more the people are

00:45:12.056 --> 00:45:16.676
in touch with actually like the, basically they're, you're more directly involved

00:45:16.676 --> 00:45:18.096
in how you're going to be regulated. Right.

00:45:18.536 --> 00:45:22.236
Uh, which we're all Americans. You probably all appreciate that. Yeah.

00:45:22.396 --> 00:45:27.656
Um, and I, I don't love being dictated around by a governor anymore.

00:45:27.916 --> 00:45:30.716
If, if I guess I love it, if it's, if I like the rules that are behind me,

00:45:30.716 --> 00:45:34.436
But nonetheless, like, it's better than being top down, feds down.

00:45:34.556 --> 00:45:35.736
Like, this is the law of the land.

00:45:35.996 --> 00:45:41.116
Yeah, so you see in Congress and in the White House, to be frank,

00:45:41.236 --> 00:45:42.676
you want, like, moderates. That's right.

00:45:42.896 --> 00:45:46.056
You want people that are moderate left, moderate right, because they're not

00:45:46.056 --> 00:45:47.736
going to do anything extreme.

00:45:47.956 --> 00:45:51.816
And the frustration is, well, they can't get anything done. That's a good thing,

00:45:51.916 --> 00:45:54.076
because America's already pretty, pretty sick.

00:45:54.296 --> 00:45:57.376
We don't want it to change too much. You know, somebody's going to like,

00:45:57.736 --> 00:46:00.396
OK, like, you can't do this. Like, taxes are a little higher there.

00:46:00.716 --> 00:46:03.616
A little lower here during this administration, all that shit's fine.

00:46:03.616 --> 00:46:06.496
But we don't want like the fourth amendment to get eviscerated.

00:46:06.616 --> 00:46:09.196
We don't want like two way to go to go away.

00:46:09.336 --> 00:46:12.536
We don't want like the first amendment to start getting restricted.

00:46:12.916 --> 00:46:16.376
We don't want ice touching American citizens fucking at all.

00:46:16.556 --> 00:46:21.416
You know, like that, that's problematic. I don't want any of that shit to go away.

00:46:21.516 --> 00:46:24.356
And when you have moderates in Congress and moderates in the white house.

00:46:24.916 --> 00:46:28.896
Nothing much happens and people don't understand how good that is.

00:46:29.136 --> 00:46:30.456
That's a good thing, man.

00:46:30.836 --> 00:46:35.256
Like China, they can go say, everybody's got to drink two cups of water every

00:46:35.256 --> 00:46:36.656
day or we're going to fucking kill you.

00:46:36.716 --> 00:46:40.116
They can do that and they can make it happen because they have that much extreme,

00:46:40.736 --> 00:46:42.316
power, like centralizing government.

00:46:42.476 --> 00:46:45.156
We've never had anything like that in America. And it's a good thing.

00:46:45.336 --> 00:46:49.556
You know, it would take 10 years for somebody to make a law and actually get

00:46:49.556 --> 00:46:51.836
it passed and then figure out how to enforce it in America.

00:46:52.136 --> 00:46:55.916
And then it'll, it'll just get shot down by the next administration is fantastic.

00:46:56.776 --> 00:46:59.076
That's how it should be. Keep it that way. Keep it that way.

00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:07.539
Keep it that way provide stability right i agree do you do you think that uh that non-need for,

00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.019
having to do things this might be like a

00:47:11.019 --> 00:47:13.639
little heavier question but like because that's what

00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.679
we're still kind of seeing them trying to do that

00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.999
because that's been status quo right like ideally they

00:47:19.999 --> 00:47:22.939
don't have to do too much right except

00:47:22.939 --> 00:47:25.859
for like just what comes across their desk but

00:47:25.859 --> 00:47:28.779
now they're like oh shit am i losing my

00:47:28.779 --> 00:47:32.019
job right like yeah that that's kind of the the

00:47:32.019 --> 00:47:36.159
thing that's that's the topic right now right like they're i think one of they

00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:41.659
started talking about you know if if the greenland thing happens that's that's

00:47:41.659 --> 00:47:44.679
when we're going to start fighting back it's like okay well because that's like

00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:48.039
like well then they're good that's that's our power going away yeah that's the

00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:51.459
line apparently i don't know but you know do you think that is,

00:47:52.279 --> 00:47:55.659
potentially kind of the resistance that

00:47:55.659 --> 00:47:59.299
they're having like because they're used to maintaining a

00:47:59.299 --> 00:48:03.879
certain status quo and like the this is this wasn't in the cards or maybe i

00:48:03.879 --> 00:48:07.739
don't know if we're talking conspiracy theories some of them knew about it i

00:48:07.739 --> 00:48:11.939
don't know but yeah man trying to not get like too deep well who i mean who

00:48:11.939 --> 00:48:15.719
knows what's going on side versus the other i don't know who's in charge i don't

00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.319
think it's like i don't think it's donald trump.

00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.759
That's what i've been trying to figure out lately is like who's actually

00:48:22.759 --> 00:48:25.959
like running the government um who's making

00:48:25.959 --> 00:48:29.679
these these these decisions like who's

00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:33.099
doing this stuff you know uh who's like who wrote

00:48:33.099 --> 00:48:38.459
the plan you know is it like project 2025 is it that crowd like who's like kind

00:48:38.459 --> 00:48:43.199
of like driving the the agenda because like donald trump's just gonna like donald

00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.579
trump likes people that like him you know people are like man he's a racist

00:48:46.579 --> 00:48:49.719
he's this or that and the other like he He probably is. I kind of am too.

00:48:49.919 --> 00:48:52.719
Like, I just think that shit's a red herring. Yeah. You know,

00:48:52.859 --> 00:48:58.159
like catch me, uh, on an average drive and holy shit, you'll hear some stuff. Um, yeah.

00:48:58.694 --> 00:49:01.174
So I don't care about that. People care about that stuff too much.

00:49:01.294 --> 00:49:04.674
I think Donald Trump likes whoever likes him. He likes Kanye West.

00:49:04.814 --> 00:49:06.294
You know, he's a black dude.

00:49:06.474 --> 00:49:09.214
Because, like, Kanye West likes him. That's how Donald Trump is. That's right.

00:49:09.314 --> 00:49:14.294
You know, I remember he did something, like, positive for freaking Kim Kardashian.

00:49:14.294 --> 00:49:15.494
Just because she asked him.

00:49:15.654 --> 00:49:19.114
And, you know, she's, like, supportive slash positive towards Donald Trump sometimes.

00:49:19.874 --> 00:49:23.294
He likes the people that kiss the ring. Yeah. If you kiss the ring,

00:49:23.394 --> 00:49:24.494
Donald Trump's your boy.

00:49:24.534 --> 00:49:26.814
And I think people, like, kind of miss that with him. They just,

00:49:26.934 --> 00:49:28.414
like, oh, he's doing this. He's doing that.

00:49:28.914 --> 00:49:32.314
I think he was going to always get in the office and take care of his friends,

00:49:32.534 --> 00:49:35.034
you know, and business partners and make himself more money.

00:49:35.174 --> 00:49:36.374
He always was going to do that.

00:49:36.514 --> 00:49:40.414
Anybody that was fooled into believing he had some other kind of like grand

00:49:40.414 --> 00:49:47.874
design to make America better, you guys got sold just like he was always selling people back in the 80s.

00:49:48.014 --> 00:49:50.834
Like, come on, man, he doesn't care about that shit. But somebody in the government

00:49:50.834 --> 00:49:55.894
does care about what's going on and they're driving policy in a way that I feel

00:49:55.894 --> 00:49:58.554
like is really negative. And I want to know like who that is exactly.

00:49:58.694 --> 00:50:00.474
You know, is it Stephen Miller?

00:50:00.694 --> 00:50:04.834
Is it like Steve Bannon? Is it just the group? Is it the Heritage Foundation?

00:50:05.134 --> 00:50:07.834
Who is it? You know, what do they want to do? Because if you know what somebody

00:50:07.834 --> 00:50:12.554
wants to do, it's easier to get in the way of it if you don't think it's a good thing.

00:50:12.794 --> 00:50:16.694
Sure. So, yeah, I think we're getting to some sort of catalyzing point.

00:50:17.034 --> 00:50:21.854
Everyone's like, well, if I start screwing with Americans, that's when I'm going to like rise up.

00:50:22.034 --> 00:50:26.294
And then some people are like, if they take Greenland, that's too much.

00:50:26.494 --> 00:50:29.214
Who knows? I don't know what the line is. I don't think anyone's going to do

00:50:29.214 --> 00:50:32.354
anything with regard to citizens unless something really bad happens.

00:50:32.474 --> 00:50:35.034
Because like, think about yourself. What would it take?

00:50:35.765 --> 00:50:39.065
For me to come out of my nice comfortable you know

00:50:39.065 --> 00:50:42.385
well-appointed alexandria townhome

00:50:42.385 --> 00:50:45.625
and go out on the streets and put myself in danger and

00:50:45.625 --> 00:50:51.525
risk not coming back home to my like you know my kids because we need to like

00:50:51.525 --> 00:50:54.525
we need to rise up against the government yeah what would take yeah what would

00:50:54.525 --> 00:50:58.525
it take to get me out of my house man a lot so like we're all kind of full of

00:50:58.525 --> 00:51:01.305
in many ways you know it just hasn't come to our doorstep yet so we're not going

00:51:01.305 --> 00:51:02.785
to do anything And I think,

00:51:02.885 --> 00:51:06.085
because Europe loves protesting, right?

00:51:06.285 --> 00:51:09.485
But I don't think those countries recognize how...

00:51:10.595 --> 00:51:14.295
The vast size of America is both its,

00:51:14.515 --> 00:51:21.515
one of its top things, but also we are so scattered as a collective peoples

00:51:21.515 --> 00:51:26.155
that like, it's kind of tough to like, where do you direct that?

00:51:26.275 --> 00:51:29.475
Right. Like that's the, what's the hard thing is like, we can't all.

00:51:30.195 --> 00:51:34.475
What we don't all fit in DC, but also, you know, like we all decided right now,

00:51:34.595 --> 00:51:36.015
we hate the government. We're going to tear down.

00:51:36.175 --> 00:51:38.555
Where do you go first? Yeah, exactly.

00:51:38.975 --> 00:51:45.255
Like, how do you start that? We can't all just, like, do we just all march on our own state capitals?

00:51:45.415 --> 00:51:49.035
Like, do you, like, what's the move, right? And we don't have,

00:51:49.135 --> 00:51:51.775
like, it's just harder because there's not, it's not the same,

00:51:51.775 --> 00:51:57.595
like, structure as these other countries where, like, it's, like, smaller.

00:51:57.975 --> 00:52:04.715
Now, I could round this out on a positive note in that 70 million or so people

00:52:04.715 --> 00:52:10.075
voted for Donald Trump, 70 or so million people voted for Joe Biden as far as we know, right?

00:52:10.075 --> 00:52:15.055
And then there's about like 80 or 90 million other people that didn't vote,

00:52:15.395 --> 00:52:19.475
don't care, didn't have time. They're busy working and taking care of their family.

00:52:19.875 --> 00:52:24.995
America does have a silent majority. And, you know, I've talked to a lot of

00:52:24.995 --> 00:52:27.075
friends that are a part of that silent majority.

00:52:27.255 --> 00:52:30.515
Lately, I've talked to people at my own academy, just had conversations with

00:52:30.515 --> 00:52:34.615
them after practice, stuff like that. And I've noticed that there's actually

00:52:34.615 --> 00:52:39.335
more of us than there are of like extreme left, extreme right by far.

00:52:39.495 --> 00:52:41.635
So there's a lot of people that are like.

00:52:42.418 --> 00:52:47.058
I think this shit sucks too, but I'm busy with other stuff. I don't have the

00:52:47.058 --> 00:52:48.918
time or inclination to do anything about it.

00:52:49.378 --> 00:52:52.238
That, that group needs to, and then sometimes you, you, you,

00:52:52.238 --> 00:52:54.198
you rage about this stuff a little bit. You see something like,

00:52:54.278 --> 00:52:56.638
man, that's effed up and you feel almost alone.

00:52:56.778 --> 00:53:01.298
Cause like all you see in the blogosphere, social media sphere is just like

00:53:01.298 --> 00:53:06.138
the left wingers and the right wingers, like yapping. What about everybody in the middle?

00:53:06.498 --> 00:53:09.578
You know? And so I used to like sit at home and be like, man,

00:53:09.658 --> 00:53:11.918
this is, am I the only one that thinks this is fucking insane?

00:53:11.918 --> 00:53:16.838
I started talking to people and I realized I'm actually not by a long shot.

00:53:16.978 --> 00:53:20.198
There are a lot of people like us just like kind of like.

00:53:20.858 --> 00:53:26.178
Normal Americans that enjoy our freedoms, uh, to mostly just do whatever we

00:53:26.178 --> 00:53:27.918
want, you know, make your own way.

00:53:28.138 --> 00:53:30.658
If you're diligent, you'll probably be successful. If you're not,

00:53:30.818 --> 00:53:33.518
you, you probably won't, but at least you won't be homeless.

00:53:33.778 --> 00:53:36.198
Like we kind of enjoy that kind of American vibe.

00:53:36.538 --> 00:53:40.558
Um, there's more of us than we think, and we should talk. So you don't feel alone.

00:53:40.698 --> 00:53:43.838
There's like many people out here like us that feel the same way.

00:53:43.878 --> 00:53:48.698
You know, you might not agree perfectly politically, but you do care about the second amendment,

00:53:48.858 --> 00:53:52.598
the first amendment, the fourth amendment and america staying stable

00:53:52.598 --> 00:53:55.878
you know you said something a minute ago um or

00:53:55.878 --> 00:53:58.758
you asked a question a minute ago and um i think

00:53:58.758 --> 00:54:01.758
what i'm about to say hopefully aligns with the positive note

00:54:01.758 --> 00:54:04.458
thing which is that you ask like

00:54:04.458 --> 00:54:07.818
hey who is kind of guiding this who is

00:54:07.818 --> 00:54:10.698
who is they who is who is the dude or group of dudes

00:54:10.698 --> 00:54:13.918
or whatever um and so and this

00:54:13.918 --> 00:54:17.658
is like you know the eternal question of the internet no one

00:54:17.658 --> 00:54:21.078
really knows but um in an attempt to like

00:54:21.078 --> 00:54:23.858
you said kind of get out ahead of like what do they want like that's right you want

00:54:23.858 --> 00:54:26.938
to know who it is like what do they want where they're trying to take us i think

00:54:26.938 --> 00:54:30.158
the only way you can approach that is just kind of looking at what's taking

00:54:30.158 --> 00:54:33.338
place like what are the it's like having a friend like a manipulative friend

00:54:33.338 --> 00:54:36.638
who like says one thing but does another sort of like all right like there's

00:54:36.638 --> 00:54:39.978
a bunch of noise or it's like the you guys heard the signal versus noise concept

00:54:39.978 --> 00:54:41.518
before yeah same thing so like,

00:54:41.858 --> 00:54:44.798
all right, quiet the noise, but like, what's the signal? Like what's taking place? Okay.

00:54:47.134 --> 00:54:51.754
To that point, like there's a lot I could say to that, but I'll just laser it

00:54:51.754 --> 00:54:55.194
on one thing so I can make a point, I think, which is that if,

00:54:55.814 --> 00:54:59.854
to what you were just saying, Tim, the noise, and you can call it social media,

00:54:59.934 --> 00:55:01.194
you can find a person to blame.

00:55:01.314 --> 00:55:08.214
I mean, this phone that we look at, it does connect you with people simultaneously,

00:55:08.214 --> 00:55:10.054
but also makes you extremely alone, right?

00:55:10.214 --> 00:55:11.974
And that's kind of what you're talking about. Like here you are looking at these

00:55:11.974 --> 00:55:14.554
things like, I'm fucking pissed or annoyed or uncomfortable.

00:55:14.554 --> 00:55:17.294
Possible and does anyone else think this yeah because

00:55:17.294 --> 00:55:20.654
you'll go look really quick scott hold that thought yeah you'll go on the post

00:55:20.654 --> 00:55:24.234
you'll see something like shitty right someone will post it say like somebody

00:55:24.234 --> 00:55:29.494
right wing post the video of the lady getting shot right in minnesota recently

00:55:29.494 --> 00:55:33.294
and under there you'll see in the comments like well she should have complied

00:55:33.294 --> 00:55:36.514
with the officer she was impeding their investigation,

00:55:37.260 --> 00:55:39.900
And you're like, are you guys fucking shitting me, dude?

00:55:40.040 --> 00:55:43.360
And you could come up with another example of something on the left wing where

00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:48.740
they're like, you got to let this fucking man in a dress use like a bathroom little girls. Sure.

00:55:49.020 --> 00:55:51.040
Right. And you're like, are you? And then under the comments,

00:55:51.140 --> 00:55:53.360
everyone was like, yeah, he has a right to do that.

00:55:53.680 --> 00:55:58.920
He's not a he, it's a she. And you're like, holy shit. You guys are insane.

00:55:59.740 --> 00:56:02.440
That's all you're seeing. but you're not seeing that 90 mil in the

00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:05.440
middle that are like yeah this is fucked up

00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.200
this lady getting shot is fucked up and this guy

00:56:08.200 --> 00:56:11.160
shouldn't be in the women's bathroom we we think both things

00:56:11.160 --> 00:56:15.900
at the same time because like that like flies in the face of like reality here

00:56:15.900 --> 00:56:20.380
and our rights here right we care about both of these things so the the echo

00:56:20.380 --> 00:56:24.000
chamber does make you feel alone but it's false that's that's almost what i

00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.660
want to say here on the podcast that's

00:56:25.660 --> 00:56:28.680
false you know it's Go talk to your neighbors, go talk to your friends,

00:56:28.980 --> 00:56:32.800
go talk to the guy across the street with the Trump flag up,

00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.960
go talk to the lady across the street with a Kamala Harris sign up.

00:56:36.100 --> 00:56:37.780
You guys are more similar than you think.

00:56:38.180 --> 00:56:41.800
I've just been noticing that lately. I talk to people that are lean a different

00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:45.240
way than me. And before you know, it's like, yeah, taxes suck. Yep.

00:56:45.600 --> 00:56:48.980
You got to take care of your family. Yep. I got to take my kids to practice. Yep.

00:56:49.340 --> 00:56:51.420
You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Before you know, like,

00:56:51.520 --> 00:56:56.280
man, I'm way more similar to this guy than I am different despite this flag.

00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:58.440
In his yard or in the flag in my yard.

00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:01.500
So we got to start talking to each other, man. Like there's,

00:57:01.700 --> 00:57:07.440
there isn't us versus a them, a they, but it's not what they want you to think.

00:57:07.460 --> 00:57:11.860
It's actually just all of us versus the fucking people that are super rich and control everything.

00:57:12.020 --> 00:57:14.600
That's what it really is. You said it, you said it, which is like,

00:57:14.720 --> 00:57:17.480
we're, you're, we're trying to be herded into these little categories,

00:57:17.600 --> 00:57:21.600
these, these lanes, like lanes that like, I believe they know that they want

00:57:21.600 --> 00:57:23.060
to, the lanes have an end.

00:57:23.520 --> 00:57:26.800
And so this is like, you, you just said it, which is that like, Just don't do it.

00:57:27.300 --> 00:57:28.700
Like, you can look at it like him. Just look at him and be like,

00:57:28.780 --> 00:57:29.400
nah, don't take the bait.

00:57:29.987 --> 00:57:33.227
You can see it like it's that to me is like you can look at some of these things

00:57:33.227 --> 00:57:36.987
and kind of think like, well, why would someone want to steer me in one direction?

00:57:37.527 --> 00:57:40.427
Well, you can't have a real conversation. That's what I'm saying.

00:57:40.727 --> 00:57:46.167
Go talk to people in real life and you will like have a much different perspective

00:57:46.167 --> 00:57:51.467
and like set of feelings about America and like your country.

00:57:51.467 --> 00:57:54.867
I posted something about that a while back when a bunch of stuff was popping

00:57:54.867 --> 00:57:56.047
off about some other issue.

00:57:56.187 --> 00:58:00.047
And I was like, dude, no one on the Internet is going to tell me to hate my neighbor.

00:58:00.307 --> 00:58:03.547
If I'm going to hate my neighbor, it's going to be because I went and talked

00:58:03.547 --> 00:58:05.087
to the motherfucker and I don't like it.

00:58:05.707 --> 00:58:09.347
That's why. That's the only reason why. No one on the Internet is going to tell

00:58:09.347 --> 00:58:13.447
me to hate the guy because he's got a certain flag in his yard or because he's

00:58:13.447 --> 00:58:15.827
white or he's black or he's Ethiopian or whatever the case may be.

00:58:16.107 --> 00:58:20.227
I'm going to go talk to him if I fucking feel like it because I'm an American.

00:58:20.227 --> 00:58:21.867
And I shouldn't have to do that, but I don't want to.

00:58:22.027 --> 00:58:25.527
I can hate whoever I want. I want to hate people for a good reason,

00:58:25.527 --> 00:58:28.027
not because someone told me to. That's right. You know? That's right.

00:58:28.447 --> 00:58:29.867
Don't tell me how to waste my hate.

00:58:30.367 --> 00:58:32.467
Don't tell me who to hate. Don't tell me who to hate. I mean,

00:58:32.887 --> 00:58:35.947
but yeah. Hate, hate, hate, hate. But it's that. Just don't let it.

00:58:36.347 --> 00:58:38.247
Because that's what I think it is. I think it's like they just,

00:58:38.427 --> 00:58:42.667
if they can steer you in whatever, like there's like an inertia to these things.

00:58:42.787 --> 00:58:46.887
And just get in that group and just go the direction we know. Like it's meant to hate.

00:58:47.730 --> 00:58:50.930
And just, just, it's tough. And we all have Instagram. We were talking about

00:58:50.930 --> 00:58:52.690
before we recorded this podcast how much we were all kind of like,

00:58:52.710 --> 00:58:55.510
yeah, we got to post content. Like, all right. What are you guys talking about?

00:58:56.510 --> 00:59:00.190
Like, it's not going away, but it shouldn't dominate your life.

00:59:00.610 --> 00:59:04.110
And like, you just, just don't indulge it. Like, just know it's a temptation.

00:59:04.410 --> 00:59:09.110
Just, just say nah. Yeah. Just say nah. And like the good thing about like position

00:59:09.110 --> 00:59:12.470
you're in, the position we're all in is like, we get to be in communities around

00:59:12.470 --> 00:59:15.650
people on a day-to-day basis, do like a real human thing, jujitsu.

00:59:16.190 --> 00:59:20.110
Well, and it's, it's, that's you. We're looking at community building, right?

00:59:20.230 --> 00:59:24.930
We're not looking at, like, creating our Gordon Ryan versus,

00:59:25.010 --> 00:59:28.290
well, whatever, our Gordon Ryan versus Craig Jones or, like,

00:59:28.370 --> 00:59:30.990
right versus left. We took that Palpatine thing all the way to the full extent,

00:59:31.090 --> 00:59:32.530
which is good. Oh, dude, we took it all the way to the top.

00:59:32.650 --> 00:59:35.150
I like it. I like it. Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome.

00:59:36.310 --> 00:59:39.150
We did not know this is where this episode was going. I had a hunch.

00:59:39.150 --> 00:59:41.470
I'm actually kind of happy about it. Yeah, me too. Good.

00:59:41.650 --> 00:59:44.590
This turned out exactly the way it should have.

00:59:44.590 --> 00:59:48.970
Well but like to your point man like we get and and i think this is the positive

00:59:48.970 --> 00:59:52.810
note which is that like i actually think despite all the bullshit we see like

00:59:52.810 --> 00:59:54.170
i said earlier thanks for much but like,

00:59:54.830 --> 00:59:58.710
people still i i think people still kind of go into offices when they have jobs

00:59:58.710 --> 01:00:01.910
around people and they're like you just you can't live that way like that way

01:00:01.910 --> 01:00:04.750
is going to make you insane it's going to turn you it might turn you into a

01:00:04.750 --> 01:00:07.610
manchurian candidate but like just you can't spend all your time on the internet

01:00:07.610 --> 01:00:11.050
like in these devices turn you into a weird weirdo extremist That's right.

01:00:11.190 --> 01:00:14.430
You know, where you're hard to talk to because you've like built your whole

01:00:14.430 --> 01:00:17.710
identity around like your politics, which.

01:00:19.067 --> 01:00:23.227
In addition to it just not being good, like not being feasible for like living

01:00:23.227 --> 01:00:25.247
a happy life, it's just kind of fucking lame.

01:00:25.647 --> 01:00:29.767
Like, like, can we just say that? It's just not cool. Like, who are you, man?

01:00:29.867 --> 01:00:33.047
You're like a, you talk to people like, who are you, dude?

01:00:33.147 --> 01:00:35.487
You know, essentially, you know, in some other form verbally,

01:00:35.547 --> 01:00:38.887
but you ask them who they are essentially. And they're like, I'm a Republican.

01:00:39.247 --> 01:00:43.927
I'm a Democrat. Like who fucking cares? Who else are you? What do you do? Do you do jujitsu?

01:00:44.207 --> 01:00:47.027
Do you like basketball? Who's your favorite player? What you like what

01:00:47.027 --> 01:00:49.987
kind of music do you listen to dude is your wife a good cook

01:00:49.987 --> 01:00:52.967
you know are you guys going to have any more kids there's so

01:00:52.967 --> 01:00:57.207
many more like interesting than what book have you read lately dude um what's

01:00:57.207 --> 01:01:01.287
your favorite show man did you like the wire you know like and we're taught

01:01:01.287 --> 01:01:05.027
we're like building our personality around our politics it's just fucking lame

01:01:05.027 --> 01:01:07.667
i agree it's uninteresting yeah at the

01:01:07.667 --> 01:01:11.047
end of the day it's it's gray and uninteresting that's that's one of my,

01:01:11.727 --> 01:01:14.667
It's one of my biggest problems with it. Well, it's tough. We live in D.C.

01:01:15.007 --> 01:01:17.767
We live in D.C. It's like unavoidable, but you're right. Like,

01:01:17.767 --> 01:01:21.047
what if government changes, man, and it turns into a fucking dictatorship?

01:01:21.567 --> 01:01:25.007
That'll suck, man. An authoritarian government. Or it turns into a communism.

01:01:25.227 --> 01:01:29.467
Maybe Mondani takes over. Fuck, dude. Yeah, which dictatorship do you guys want

01:01:29.467 --> 01:01:31.267
to live in more? Guess what?

01:01:32.337 --> 01:01:35.597
Care. I'm smart. I'm going to make it even better. I'm going to be one of those

01:01:35.597 --> 01:01:39.497
guys that's like got a fucking cushy communist government job.

01:01:39.497 --> 01:01:44.497
And if it's a dictatorship, I'm going to be a part of the regime because I'm not a moron.

01:01:44.697 --> 01:01:48.957
So honestly, personally, I've never been all that worried about surviving.

01:01:49.337 --> 01:01:51.957
Well, I'm going to do that because I like I'm a smart human being,

01:01:51.957 --> 01:01:55.937
but I worry about everyone else and how they're going to be treated under those

01:01:55.937 --> 01:01:57.217
kinds of kinds of systems.

01:01:57.417 --> 01:02:01.597
And so I like the American system. I don't want this one to remain in place.

01:02:01.797 --> 01:02:05.097
It's the, it's a big experiment, and it's the best we got.

01:02:05.257 --> 01:02:08.257
It's not perfect, but you look at all the other types of governments that exist

01:02:08.257 --> 01:02:11.817
around the world, America's the best, has been the best for a long time.

01:02:12.357 --> 01:02:15.737
And some people would argue with me, capitalism's bad. It is bad in certain

01:02:15.737 --> 01:02:19.237
ways, but what else are you going to do? You're going to be- It's the best bad system.

01:02:19.437 --> 01:02:22.277
China is the best system we can come up with so far. It's free.

01:02:22.557 --> 01:02:24.657
It's free. Yeah. Well, it's supposed to be free.

01:02:24.977 --> 01:02:27.817
It's a free market. It's supposed to be free. Yeah, I agree.

01:02:28.777 --> 01:02:32.557
Yeah, dude, you're talking, rah, rah, American guys in here. We You'll agree on that.

01:02:32.757 --> 01:02:35.237
It's just lame, dude. Like, you know, like just be, who are you,

01:02:35.357 --> 01:02:38.777
man? For real? I want to know who people are. I think that's interesting. It's what I like about.

01:02:39.908 --> 01:02:44.108
I talk to a lot of people. You know, I have a student that will wear,

01:02:44.268 --> 01:02:46.828
like, these shorts with fucking Kim Jong on them, for example.

01:02:47.988 --> 01:02:51.988
Oh, really? That's kind of fun. I'm talking to you, Rich, if you ever get this. Yeah, Rich.

01:02:52.368 --> 01:02:54.788
Well, that's the nice thing about these interesting people. We meet the weirdest

01:02:54.788 --> 01:02:55.668
people in Jim's. Just what?

01:02:55.748 --> 01:02:58.248
Rich is the nicest dude I've ever met. I'm sure he rules. I have to call Rich

01:02:58.248 --> 01:03:02.768
today and be like, Rich, I need you to help me move all of my furniture to Austin, Texas.

01:03:03.028 --> 01:03:06.768
And he'll fucking get in a truck and help me and drive me to Austin. That's awesome.

01:03:06.948 --> 01:03:11.328
He's that kind of dude, you know? So you learn that shit about people when you

01:03:11.328 --> 01:03:14.648
build community and you realize like everybody's like, they could be a piece

01:03:14.648 --> 01:03:16.508
of shit one way and totally awesome.

01:03:16.908 --> 01:03:21.468
Yeah. And several others, you know, and on balance, they're good.

01:03:21.588 --> 01:03:22.848
They're good. Yeah. You know?

01:03:23.248 --> 01:03:26.668
Yeah. It's that like, don't judge a book by its cover, right?

01:03:26.668 --> 01:03:30.008
Like the thing that they're presenting to you isn't necessarily who they are.

01:03:30.108 --> 01:03:33.568
They're asking us to judge all books by their covers. That's right. Move on.

01:03:33.788 --> 01:03:36.788
That's what it is. That's what I hate it. No, no, that's, and I'm glad you said

01:03:36.788 --> 01:03:40.268
that because that is, that is, that's the inertia. It's like put a label on a thing.

01:03:40.648 --> 01:03:44.708
Yeah. It reads, it reads more communists than, because I don't know what else

01:03:44.708 --> 01:03:46.988
to call communist socialists where they're like put people in group.

01:03:47.128 --> 01:03:49.668
That's, it reads that way because it's sort of like with group,

01:03:49.868 --> 01:03:54.408
we can assign malice and then just we'll assign an emotion to you.

01:03:54.628 --> 01:03:57.788
Yeah. And then you can justify doing bad things to X group. That's right.

01:03:57.828 --> 01:03:59.828
They're in this group. We've assigned hate.

01:04:00.168 --> 01:04:02.848
You should, you, you and other group doesn't like that group.

01:04:02.988 --> 01:04:05.728
It's just divide and conquer. Well, people don't read history enough.

01:04:05.968 --> 01:04:07.188
You know, I guess I'll...

01:04:07.748 --> 01:04:10.148
You can wrap up on that. Yeah, a little bit, maybe wrap up on this.

01:04:10.288 --> 01:04:12.948
I like to talk about reading about.

01:04:13.792 --> 01:04:18.792
The Rwandan genocide, which is a heavy topic, but you think about how that happened,

01:04:18.912 --> 01:04:20.352
people will focus on like the Holocaust.

01:04:20.612 --> 01:04:23.852
And it's like an interesting and like complex situation.

01:04:24.132 --> 01:04:28.452
I think the Rwandan genocide is a, is a more interesting one to talk about,

01:04:28.592 --> 01:04:30.352
or at least a little bit more instructive.

01:04:30.612 --> 01:04:34.952
Um, cause you ask like, how could you walk out of your home.

01:04:35.792 --> 01:04:38.832
Grab a machete and chop up somebody

01:04:38.832 --> 01:04:41.732
that you've been living to let living right next to

01:04:41.732 --> 01:04:44.932
for 10 years how did anyone get

01:04:44.932 --> 01:04:48.172
convinced to take an action

01:04:48.172 --> 01:04:52.472
like that were these exceptionally evil people the scary thing is that they

01:04:52.472 --> 01:04:59.032
were not yeah they were normal people over time the government and commentators

01:04:59.032 --> 01:05:05.792
convinced these people over radio and otherwise that this minority was bad right

01:05:05.792 --> 01:05:07.872
they were less than human.

01:05:08.092 --> 01:05:13.372
They were cockroaches, whatever they would call them in the media and over the radio.

01:05:13.652 --> 01:05:18.432
And so over time, you're dehumanizing this group of people and it's nothing

01:05:18.432 --> 01:05:24.652
to you after enough of that to go out and chop that person apart with a fucking

01:05:24.652 --> 01:05:30.092
machete like they're a dog because someone has made you believe you should just

01:05:30.092 --> 01:05:33.172
judge this entire book by only its cover.

01:05:33.352 --> 01:05:39.532
And since the cover you think is bad, it warrants you chopping them apart with a machete.

01:05:39.672 --> 01:05:43.192
And so I like that it's a really visceral example because that's what happened

01:05:43.192 --> 01:05:45.352
in a lot of those cases in that country.

01:05:45.532 --> 01:05:50.972
And I like that it's an example of it. It happened in an African country in

01:05:50.972 --> 01:05:53.492
Rwanda where everyone's dark, dark of skin.

01:05:53.712 --> 01:05:57.832
So you can't say like, oh, it was just like situation like between Jews and

01:05:57.832 --> 01:05:59.352
Germans where they look different.

01:05:59.512 --> 01:06:01.112
There are different types of people with different cultures.

01:06:01.392 --> 01:06:05.192
Just the same fucking people that look alike, you know?

01:06:05.332 --> 01:06:08.932
And it even was able to happen in that context when you let something like this

01:06:08.932 --> 01:06:13.092
happen, when you let somebody force you to believe that this book...

01:06:13.801 --> 01:06:16.701
Is evil or whatever yeah yeah yeah you know the cover

01:06:16.701 --> 01:06:19.521
of it so yeah that's heavy

01:06:19.521 --> 01:06:22.621
shit but like we shouldn't let the government and

01:06:22.621 --> 01:06:25.541
this political climate uh we shouldn't

01:06:25.541 --> 01:06:28.921
let it make us come to those conclusions about each other you

01:06:28.921 --> 01:06:31.861
know so i refuse to let that happen i want that

01:06:31.861 --> 01:06:34.881
to be a part of my jujitsu community where we take

01:06:34.881 --> 01:06:37.821
the person based on their full

01:06:37.821 --> 01:06:40.521
like content like who are they you get to know them

01:06:40.521 --> 01:06:43.761
you talk to them actually and then if you don't like them fine but

01:06:43.761 --> 01:06:46.501
you'll probably have a more nuanced view of the person you won't think of them

01:06:46.501 --> 01:06:51.201
as just a cockroach or an other for somebody to be tread on right because they're

01:06:51.201 --> 01:06:54.141
a human being that you know whether you like them or not you know what i mean

01:06:54.141 --> 01:06:59.381
here i like that little bit about the jiu-jitsu side of it too we're all we're

01:06:59.381 --> 01:07:03.021
all equal on the map we say jiu-jitsu i think less than 10 times,

01:07:03.741 --> 01:07:12.001
We got a solid 20 minutes of like jujitsu and then about 50 minutes of action, dude.

01:07:12.241 --> 01:07:14.601
Just really deep dive. It was good.

01:07:15.041 --> 01:07:18.321
But yeah, I mean, you know, it got a little heavy, but I don't mind that. I like it.

01:07:19.681 --> 01:07:27.021
I liked the level-headedness too because, you know, we did a good job of presenting this topic, guys.

01:07:27.301 --> 01:07:29.821
Yeah, we nailed it. I'm leaving that in too.

01:07:30.341 --> 01:07:33.761
Our little pats on our own backs. Should we be in charge? I think so.

01:07:33.921 --> 01:07:35.101
Of the government? Yeah.

01:07:35.741 --> 01:07:40.401
Together, a triumvirate. You let us know in the comments. You let us know in the comments.

01:07:42.081 --> 01:07:46.481
Vote for us. Vote for us. Takeovers. Dude, I always say, I think I could fix

01:07:46.481 --> 01:07:47.701
all of the world's problems.

01:07:47.881 --> 01:07:54.001
This is the start of my villain arc, right? I like it. This is the beginning of... Palpatine.

01:07:54.621 --> 01:07:59.941
Tim Dawson, 2028. I could solve all of the world's problems. Just make me... King.

01:08:00.521 --> 01:08:05.081
Mayor of Earth. Okay. All right? mayor and then after i fix all of the problems

01:08:05.081 --> 01:08:09.021
because i would have to do some horrible shit that's right that's right um i

01:08:09.021 --> 01:08:10.561
would exile myself to like the,

01:08:11.056 --> 01:08:13.916
Dude, you're Thanos. No problem. I would absolutely give up power. You're Thanos.

01:08:14.116 --> 01:08:16.356
And people were like, no, you wouldn't. Once you have absolute power,

01:08:16.436 --> 01:08:17.136
you're never going to give it up.

01:08:17.216 --> 01:08:22.556
I would. I would exile myself to the fucking moon and be happy about the work I've done.

01:08:22.636 --> 01:08:25.456
Just farming on the moon. Farming on the moon, dude. Hell yeah.

01:08:25.936 --> 01:08:27.616
I mean, that sounds like dream. It's been thought through before,

01:08:27.736 --> 01:08:29.956
Tim. Yeah, it never worked out.

01:08:31.396 --> 01:08:33.956
What happened to Caesar? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He tried. Napoleon.

01:08:35.516 --> 01:08:38.736
He got his exile, though, but he wasn't in charge of that. So when he was looking

01:08:38.736 --> 01:08:42.696
out of jail, he was like, I ain't done yet, dude. I'm another thing and another

01:08:42.696 --> 01:08:46.396
thing yeah yeah cool but I totally get where it comes from,

01:08:46.876 --> 01:08:50.176
Totally get it. You just feel like you could fix it all, but you definitely could.

01:08:50.916 --> 01:08:54.456
If I just get the right amount of power, I'll fix all of it fast.

01:08:54.676 --> 01:08:58.216
If I could just have all of it. Just give me all of it, no problem,

01:08:58.256 --> 01:09:01.776
and trust me, I'll give it up. The younglings got in my way.

01:09:02.156 --> 01:09:05.056
They shouldn't have been there. They pissed me off. I was getting ready to go

01:09:05.056 --> 01:09:08.316
do something sick as fuck, and they stopped me, so yeah, I killed all the younglings.

01:09:08.416 --> 01:09:10.416
Big deal. Big deal. I had to do it. Had to be done.

01:09:10.876 --> 01:09:14.336
I'm just trying to save Padme, guys. You're good, dude. Padme had to go.

01:09:14.756 --> 01:09:18.456
That's fine. just trying to accomplish the power of revival.

01:09:19.416 --> 01:09:23.516
She got her heart broken. Was that what it was? Her heart was so broken. Is that why she died?

01:09:23.936 --> 01:09:29.036
He also force choked her and threw her in. She could have just died from the injury.

01:09:30.456 --> 01:09:35.136
I don't know. It's been a while. She may have died because of domestic violence and spousal abuse.

01:09:35.436 --> 01:09:38.996
I'll rewatch it. They don't say it outright. That was too heavy for the movie

01:09:38.996 --> 01:09:41.236
in the same movie where younglings were.

01:09:41.376 --> 01:09:44.516
Yeah, yeah, true. You can't talk about domestic violence.

01:09:44.776 --> 01:09:48.396
Yeah, yeah, yeah. that's where we drove a lot of they got to the end of the script and they're like,

01:09:48.956 --> 01:09:51.936
george we can't domestic violence they're like

01:09:51.936 --> 01:09:55.216
bro we can't leave it on this we need to tell them that she

01:09:55.216 --> 01:09:58.356
died of a broken heart he's like no like that's not the point they're like

01:09:58.356 --> 01:10:03.096
no no we need to tell everyone that she died of a broken heart right right don't

01:10:03.096 --> 01:10:06.336
you want to sell this to one day the legitimately was my take i was like didn't

01:10:06.336 --> 01:10:10.556
she die from a broken heart whatever but i think they say it like they do say

01:10:10.556 --> 01:10:17.276
it but like she he choked her up dude he fucked her up He force-choked her and threw her into the ship.

01:10:17.696 --> 01:10:20.136
Obviously, he killed her. She definitely died from that. Let's just say that.

01:10:20.276 --> 01:10:24.036
You know what? True, true, true, true. That's why she died. Obi-Wan sliced him

01:10:24.036 --> 01:10:25.076
up pretty good, though, on the way out.

01:10:25.476 --> 01:10:30.376
Oh, yeah. He hacked him to pieces. And then he got force-ghosted in episode

01:10:30.376 --> 01:10:33.796
four, which has yet to happen in Jiu-Jitsu, guys.

01:10:34.376 --> 01:10:41.436
The chosen one. But so, like, I guess, are we doing a little prediction here that Gordon Ryan...

01:10:41.934 --> 01:10:49.854
Kills his kills his wife you're so wild no I mean I think Gordon Ryan gets redeemed

01:10:49.854 --> 01:10:54.854
he might be he might be so he's gonna skip all the way to the the final we're

01:10:54.854 --> 01:10:56.474
just gonna skip all the other stuff.

01:10:57.114 --> 01:11:01.354
Midichlorian count he's midichlorian it's high it's off the charts there's no

01:11:01.354 --> 01:11:07.994
question are the midichlorians just testosterone just his T levels yeah dude

01:11:07.994 --> 01:11:10.374
we talked to Gordon Ryan at Worlds.

01:11:11.074 --> 01:11:13.794
You know because my one trials so this is

01:11:13.794 --> 01:11:16.754
interesting little bit of jiu-jitsu here let's do it yeah i

01:11:16.754 --> 01:11:19.594
wanted to i was trying to guide it back for at least the closing a

01:11:19.594 --> 01:11:22.634
little bit of jiu-jitsu a little bit maya wins trials right yep um

01:11:22.634 --> 01:11:27.134
by the way i was a nervous fucking wreck the entire tournament because it was

01:11:27.134 --> 01:11:32.534
like the biggest it was a project it was like a six month long project i think

01:11:32.534 --> 01:11:39.474
i'm a fucking good coach and i i made a plan and i was like i think i can get

01:11:39.474 --> 01:11:42.254
you to the top of the podium at trials.

01:11:43.214 --> 01:11:49.454
And Maya, to her credit, love you, by the way, always believes in me.

01:11:49.554 --> 01:11:53.974
She's always down to go on like a little journey, a little adventure with me, take on a project.

01:11:54.214 --> 01:11:59.054
And so this is a lady that has not done anything significant in jujitsu for

01:11:59.054 --> 01:12:02.554
10 years, had a ton of knee injuries, blah, blah, blah, et cetera.

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You know, she's like, okay, you are saying

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you can get a 37 year old

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woman local mom to the top of

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the podium at east coast tryouts and i'm like

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yes and she's like okay let's do that's the kind of that's the kind of partner

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i have so um we go on this journey and we do all of this work it sucks it wasn't

01:12:23.734 --> 01:12:29.594
easy we spent all of our time doing it late nights watching film you know extra

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training sessions review and tape all this crap.

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And so all that culminates in the tournament itself.

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And we get to the semifinal. And so I'm a nervous wreck.

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I'm like, dude, if we don't win here, I'm a fucking moron.

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That's not true. Cause like tournaments are hard. You never know what's going

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to happen once you get there. But that's how I was feeling for in that moment.

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So we're fighting this little, uh, phenom, Jocelyn Molina.

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Right. And she had beaten us in Jersey. We just had a bad outing.

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It was like a weird rule thing.

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I'm not even sure we lost in my opinion, but we lost. All right.

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Um, So, but it was by negative point. So I'm like, Maya, you can beat this girl.

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We made a few mistakes that first match. We're not going to make those same

01:13:10.387 --> 01:13:13.567
mistakes. You're ready to go. She goes out there, fucking slams,

01:13:13.747 --> 01:13:14.667
shots, and dominates her.

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6-0 wins the semi. And so we get to the final.

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I'm a nervous wreck. So my point is, bring it back to where Gordon was the coach

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on the other side of that semi.

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And so...

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We're thinking, okay, Gordon Ryan maybe won't be nice to us if we approach him

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because, you know, we eventually want to go visit Kingsway. Sure.

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And so we go talk to him at Worlds, Nuki Worlds.

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He's a perfect gentleman, super nice. He's like, yeah, please come by and train.

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We'd be happy to have you. So it's like, man, this guy is like a villain on

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the internet. But when you interact with him in person.

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He's a good dude. He's a good dude. And he was nice at trials too.

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Like, you know, he could have been like standoffish because we'd be like his athlete.

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He was super nice the whole time. So I think Gordon maybe gets redeemed. Okay.

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In the community's eyes. I can see that. And it comes out that Gordon Ryan is

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actually a nice. Big old sweetheart.

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He's going to be sitting there with his, as a force goes next to the future

01:14:15.900 --> 01:14:18.640
Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda. Yeah.

01:14:19.340 --> 01:14:22.340
They're all just doing their thing chilling in force,

01:14:23.860 --> 01:14:31.100
maybe dude we don't know we don't know I made him count Dooku he's not a good guy in this,

01:14:32.220 --> 01:14:36.940
scenario I guess he's the rebel do we trust like do-gooders like people that

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are that are always like out there like white knighting it in some way do we

01:14:42.180 --> 01:14:45.620
actually trust those people sometimes they end up being the worst people oh yeah

01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.720
i i i'm picking up what you're putting down man you know what i'm saying like

01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:52.420
bill gates i just tell people like bill gates was on that island dude he's out

01:14:52.420 --> 01:14:54.860
here saying he's gonna save everyone dude bill gates is out here doing some

01:14:54.860 --> 01:14:58.220
weird shit dude i'm a bit of a piece you know i tell people i'm honest with

01:14:58.220 --> 01:15:02.140
myself i'm like i'm kind of a piece of shit dude you know like my is like would

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you ever cheat on me and i'm like yeah in the right situation,

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in the right circumstances and that's why well i mean as i know that i

01:15:09.850 --> 01:15:13.590
myself out of those circumstances. I understand. I think that's more real than

01:15:13.590 --> 01:15:15.210
I think you're extremely honest.

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You're full of shit if you say that. Are you for real, dude?

01:15:18.870 --> 01:15:22.130
You know, like Halle Berry walks up right now. She wants to bang it out and

01:15:22.130 --> 01:15:24.070
you're hammer drunk. Are you going to do that? Probably.

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That's when you stay out of those situations. That's why you don't hang out

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with Halle Berry. You don't hang out with Halle Berry, dude.

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I just don't do that. You ignore her text all the time.

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When she slides into the DMs, you don't respond. You don't accept that message

01:15:39.230 --> 01:15:41.290
request. Because you don't even follow her.

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I'm skeptical of white knights for that reason. Of course. We usually have a

01:15:45.490 --> 01:15:48.970
little something in the closet that's deeper and darker than we want.

01:15:49.090 --> 01:15:51.890
You know, we want to believe. I could tell you guys some stories.

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Another time. We'll have to do it another time. Another time.

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Scott's going to leave us all with blue balls here on Fighters Eating Coffee. We're all about that.

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We're not. But anyways. But it happens sometimes. It happens.

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Well, cool. Well, boys, I think we did it. I think we did it.

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On that note, thank you guys for listening to Fighters Drinking Coffee.

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Tim, you're in the Hall of Fame.

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Yeah, dude. You're in the Hall of Fame. I can't wait to come back.

01:16:17.850 --> 01:16:21.790
Fighters Drinking Coffee, Hall of Famer. Just got inducted right now,

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Tim Dawson. Dude, you will like this.

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I was joking around with this scene before New Year's, probably like December or whenever. I don't.

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And I was like, man, we were like, he said, what are you doing for New Year's?

01:16:33.037 --> 01:16:36.777
I'm like, what are you doing for New Year's? And I'm like, maybe I'll text a couple of guys.

01:16:36.917 --> 01:16:39.237
I was like, you, what if, what if we did a podcast? Hear me out.

01:16:39.577 --> 01:16:41.897
He's like, what if we did a podcast? I was like, I'll text Tim.

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We'll drink. And we're going to watch some matches. And we'll like,

01:16:45.197 --> 01:16:46.677
we'll like, we'll judge people.

01:16:46.817 --> 01:16:48.717
We'll have fun. We'll get drunk. We'll get drunk. And I'm like,

01:16:48.797 --> 01:16:50.537
I got a group of dudes. I'm like, I know this is going to work.

01:16:50.937 --> 01:16:53.837
So we're going to do it sometime. All right. We're in, man. All right.

01:16:53.917 --> 01:16:58.237
All right. let's end on that no let's do japan first we'll do japan first and

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then you have my word i'll make that happen okay should it be should we bring

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the mobile equipment and we'll run it we'll record in japan oh well that way

01:17:08.257 --> 01:17:10.917
we could do that sure i don't think we want to put a lot of,

01:17:11.977 --> 01:17:18.497
japan on camera true that might be i think we want to keep japan off japan will be.

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Japan will be in the deepest darkest secrets of

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the fire drinking coffee universe i mean japan they probably

01:17:26.177 --> 01:17:29.137
got some sick technology maybe we could just buy equipment over there dude they

01:17:29.137 --> 01:17:32.297
probably have some cool small like badass version i was just gonna bring the

01:17:32.297 --> 01:17:36.197
mobile mics we'll just do it yeah yeah let's do it live i'm open-minded we'll

01:17:36.197 --> 01:17:39.437
do it live we'll do it live all right all right fuck it we're doing it live

01:17:39.437 --> 01:17:43.897
uh but this is no not live but but yeah uh.

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But yeah, thanks guys for listening to Fire's Drinking Coffee.

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That was Tim Dawson, coach extraordinaire.

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He can take a 37-year-old woman and coach her to the top of the podium at trials.

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It's proven. No problem.

01:17:58.193 --> 01:18:03.633
No problem. It's really difficult. It's going to be six hard months of your

01:18:03.633 --> 01:18:08.733
life and a background in already being a competitive jiu-jitsu athlete. But he can do it.

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He did it. But thanks for coming on. That was actually awesome.

01:18:13.733 --> 01:18:16.753
Yeah, that was a lot of fun. this fun uh fun little

01:18:16.753 --> 01:18:20.753
avenue down conspiracy theories jujitsu tapping

01:18:20.753 --> 01:18:23.953
into his legal knowledge so i hope you guys enjoyed that

01:18:23.953 --> 01:18:26.573
uh drop we had a bunch

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of questions for you guys drop those in the comments keep asking questions drop

01:18:30.893 --> 01:18:35.693
your answers in the comments um and ask us some questions as well we'll answer

01:18:35.693 --> 01:18:44.053
them uh and like comment subscribe reviews all those things help us build up the algorithm.

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Um, or climb up the algorithm, get in front of more people.

01:18:47.833 --> 01:18:51.493
And just like we said, build that community, uh, of, cause we're all more alike

01:18:51.493 --> 01:18:53.633
than you think, just like Tim said.

01:18:53.873 --> 01:18:57.393
Um, and Tim, where can they find you before we sign out here?

01:18:57.733 --> 01:19:04.873
I am on Instagram mostly, um, at high noon BJJ and Tim Dawson BJJ.

01:19:05.033 --> 01:19:09.093
Both of my, obviously high noon is public. My personal profile is public as well.

01:19:09.213 --> 01:19:12.353
Please come, uh yap at me negative or

01:19:12.353 --> 01:19:15.113
not i don't care i like to argue on the internet so yeah i'll get

01:19:15.113 --> 01:19:19.353
you back uh come say whatever you want um thank you guys for having me i think

01:19:19.353 --> 01:19:23.673
this was so dope i can't wait to do it again oh yeah we're excited to have you

01:19:23.673 --> 01:19:28.653
back and especially for our uh fighters drinking one of the sub concept uh concepts

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that i have brewing yes yeah so for sure um but yeah thank you guys thanks bye.