(Ep 36) Unbreakable Women’s Grappling Camp — Strength, Sisterhood, and Jiu-Jitsu

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Welcome back to Fighters Drinking Coffee.

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Today, we have Carrie Summers and Mindy Carlson from Genesis Jiu-Jitsu,

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the co-founders of the Unbreakable Women's Grappling Camp.

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They are based out of the Dallas-Fort Worth area, if I'm reading this correctly.

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Yeah, so Fort Worth, Texas, and they have been training together for a while.

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Mindy, Carrie, go ahead and say hello, and tell us a little bit how you guys

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met and started Unbreakable.

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Okay, well, I'm here in Summers with Black Belt.

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I've been training for almost 10 years.

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We met when Mindy's kids started.

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Her kids started training first and I saw her around with her kids and then

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started working out at the gym together.

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And I was like, well, I mean, she was always invited to try Jiu-Jitsu and I

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had a late start. I had a late start.

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Getting late during the day, you know, now it's on Mondays at 9 a.m.

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When he came, tried Jiu-Jitsu, turned it out, became, you know,

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a training partner, started Jiu-Jitsu.

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So, when did you start? April of 2021.

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Started doing the camp together and our our our professor.

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And so then you know i started,

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try you know the gateway to get and then he started and have the same same goals

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and love for jujitsu love her seeing women you know challenge themselves and grow,

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how was that?

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I saw my kids doing jiu-jitsu and

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it looked super hard but super fun and

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I I got brave enough to finally try it and I've always been an athlete and I

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don't know I just I fell in love with it and I love the community that it just

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seems like just naturally builds out of jiu-jitsu because.

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We're struggling together and we're always

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together and it's an individual sport but you have to have

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a partner so you have to have a team mindset and

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it's just it's been like the hardest and

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best thing i've ever done yeah that's awesome

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um it's it's kind of cool that the that

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you're so your kids getting jiu-jitsu brought you guys together um

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and how about how long i

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mean i think you were saying two years about how long are your kids training before

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you guys got started training well it's

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funny my kids trained for two years before i started i remember watching and

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thinking that oh that was all um a change and i kept thinking you know and here

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at me our professor would she'd invite me all the time you know an athletic

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person and Aaron would always be like You should try this.

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You should try this. And I finally, you know, my daughter created,

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and it really challenged me to want to challenge myself and see if I could handle it.

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And so I started after watching my kids.

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First class I did, I was like, oh, I can handle the touching.

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I like this. Like, you know, I just liked the challenge.

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And, you know, I grew up with brothers, so I liked it. It's like,

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if you press the button, it's different.

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For two years, I watched my boys and I tell people, I think the first year I

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thought, I think I'd like to do this, but I wasn't sure.

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And then the second year, I was like, I definitely want to do this,

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but I do not want to start and quit because that's the thing that people do,

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right? They start jujitsu and it gets hard and they quit.

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So I was like, I do not want to start until I know for sure I just wanted to

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do it, to do the whole thing, never stop. And so I did.

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I waited two years and and I started and I have not stopped.

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Like I do a lot of jujitsu.

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I love it. I think the challenge and things keep keeps me coming back because it's always different.

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Um but it's the people that i

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meet and i'm just seeing the women who

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are timid and they're not

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really sure about anything and it's scary to

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learn something new to become confident and it just kind of spills over into

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the rest of their lives yeah that's awesome um okay so with genesis we have

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a really i was just gonna say can you uh you make sure to get the microphone a little bit closer,

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you're kind of going in and out okay yeah okay it's

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really close to me now um so at genesis we have a really strong woman's program

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we have ladies classes ladies only classes five days a week and we also have

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a you know i coach a lot of co-ed classes during the day and like,

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You know, it's something just, like, you'll be my partner is what moves are we learning?

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You know, there was so many peers that I had when I first started.

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So what we love is being able to encourage ladies to try it. No, they're not.

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Yeah, that's awesome. Are you, so are you doing, are you coaching this women's program full time?

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Is that you're gay or is this something you're doing is this something yeah

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I no I coach jujitsu full time I'm bad I'm living the dream,

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so I coach you know I coach pro-ed classes ladies classes and genesis has like,

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So that's a really interesting story too. I own and run an academy in Washington,

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D.C., and we have a pretty strong women's team as well.

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And one thing that I've noticed that I think is really cool is that within our

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women's community, our women's team, we have some really strong leaders.

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And they do a great job of nurturing, kind of like the story I heard here,

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nurturing interests from females who may see it and feel kind of intimidated.

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And I think the attitude that works really well is be as welcoming as possible.

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And as you said, show other gals that, hey, this is an environment where you

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can come in and train nonstop and get a ton of value out of being a part of this community.

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And I see like how excited the women on my team get when a new person comes

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in and they're like, hey, like, come train with us.

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I think it just takes step by step cultivating and continuing to have that really

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welcoming environment.

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Because I think, Mandy, you're the one who said that you didn't want to quit once you started.

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And I think that's what I see from women on our team, too, which is that they

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want to bring folks in and say, hey, like, come train with us for the long term.

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Because every new person that joins the team, it just, it compounds, like snowballs.

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It just builds a better and better community. Yeah, definitely.

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I think that the fact that women are, you know, it's an intimidating sport.

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Like just asking a woman who doesn't want to be, like we live our lives,

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we don't want to be heavy.

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Nobody wants to be called heavy. You don't want to put your weight on somebody.

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You don't want to like bother anybody.

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And, you know, it's this whole idea of like, yeah, like Carrie said,

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who's going to be my partner?

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And we take all that out of the equation at the beginning, you know,

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and we assure them like, I promise you in about six months to a year when somebody

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says you're heavy, you're going to take it as a compliment.

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And so we take that out of the equation. I call our ladies open mat the gateway drug because it's free.

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They don't have to put any money into it. It's only women, so they're not going

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to be in what they don't see in their mind.

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There's a 300-pound sweaty man sitting on top of them. And so we kind of usher

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them in and a lot of them will end up, you know, going to co-ed classes and stuff.

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But it's like getting those barriers out of the way at the beginning until they're,

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you know, more acclimated to all of the uncomfortable things of jujitsu.

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It's just been a great way to, I think, keep women training.

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Yeah, that's awesome. I mean, I guess that's the ultimate goal,

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right? and have everybody training together at the end of the day.

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And I think anyone who's running an academy or a program would agree that breaking

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down that initial barrier definitely makes a big difference.

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We saw actually at the gym that I work at and coach at, we had a very similar

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thing happen, right? You start this women's program.

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There were women that were bringing their kids there. We do it at the same time as the kids' class.

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And a lot of those women who are probably interested in the sport,

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they get in, they train with other women and end up joining everyone else in the adults,

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you know, co-ed in the class at the end of the day.

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And yeah, I mean, it's just, it's great because a lot of the time those people

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turn into the biggest killers too on the mats. So it's always cool to watch.

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Yeah. I've talked to some guys that are like, you know, I don't think you need

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to have a women's only class because the women need to be able to just to come in and just do jujitsu.

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And it's like, you've never gone to a class where nobody else is like you.

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Like, there's always 20 guys, right? They might not all be your size,

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but there's always 20 guys.

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And I'm like, you wouldn't want to walk into a ladies class every week and know

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like I'm the only guy in this ladies class, you know.

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And so I think it just it's just a great, a great way to get women started.

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But in this in the same respect, I love it that women will come to the co-ed

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classes because, I mean, it is different for men to roll with women.

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It's a it's a skill. you know you have we

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always laugh we have our favorite our favorite male training

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partners because we have so many women we can train with but we're like oh we

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you know carrie is is a lightweight i'm a medium heavy and so for her like she'll

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say oh they're our size and they're like bigger than me but to her they're our

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size because they're close enough to our size that we can roll with them and

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so it's it's great for women to.

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To come in and be able to train in co-ed classes because it teaches them men,

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you know, to not just use brute strength and they, they have to work techniques

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and, and, and change the way they play their game.

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And I think it's beneficial for everybody to have women in the gym.

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Oh, absolutely. We have a, we have one woman that comes to our five 30 AM training

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and she has recently gotten comfortable enough with the crew that she starts

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rolling with the ultra-heavies, ultra-heavy men.

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And it's been beneficial for them, too, because they have to play a completely different game.

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She's not a big woman.

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They're learning something, too. Everybody's learning something.

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It definitely makes a difference. Go. Okay.

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One thing I heard you guys talking about, which was helping new students,

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new females grow more comfortable and aware of the environment that jiu-jitsu

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puts all of us into and then eventually should they feel comfortable and confident

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to move into co-ed classes uh,

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bringing them into the full community, if you will. Is that like what you encourage

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folks to do? Do you sort of just let it happen?

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I'll let it happen naturally. You know, a lot of the ladies will want to start

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learning, you know, more techniques

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or training at different times that we don't have a ladies class.

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And so they will come to a different class.

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And, you know, there's a, here we have a 6 a.m.

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Class. So we end up with ladies that want to train at 6 a.m.

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So and that's the class that we attend and train at.

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So they'll come to that class, which is co-ed.

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And, you know, and a lot of them will start out with they'll say,

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OK, I'll only roll with a male black belt.

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And that'll be, you know, the first time they roll with a man and get to kind

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of experience what that is like.

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So we don't tell them they should. We just, we do.

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And so a lot of times it feels like what we do, they start to do the same.

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Lead by example. Yeah. That's usually. Yeah.

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And, yeah. And for me, you know, Carrie, she was already like competing heavily and all of that.

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Whenever I started jujitsu and I'm a competitive person. So it was the same

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thing. Like I, I want to challenge myself. I want to compete.

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I want to, you know, like it worked out well for Carrie, the world champion.

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So I want to go do that too.

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And I knew, you know, that I would have to broaden my horizons,

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you know, and enroll in our, like the 6 a.m. class.

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Sometimes we have nine black belts. So I think it's really good for me to go

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just take my medicine and roll with all the black belts, you know.

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So to be competitive, I wanted to challenge myself.

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And so that was kind of the, when I got my blue belt, it was like,

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okay, I can't hide behind the white belt anymore. I have to go and challenge

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myself more and more. And so that's what I did.

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And it's, you know, worked out well for me, too.

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But I think it is not not the pressure like, hey, you really need to do this

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or, hey, your jujitsu is going to suffer if you don't.

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I mean we have a blue belt

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that's never rolled with a man and she's like maybe one day

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I will but she has good shu jitsu and she

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does great you know and she's competed and and all the things and so I don't

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think it's necessary necessary but I think it is helpful and I think just letting

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that happen naturally because everybody's journey's different has been you know

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beneficial for everyone.

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Mendy, when you got into training jiu-jitsu, did you have like a goal in mind

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that you wanted to compete or was it self-defense or just,

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curiosity about picking up a new hobby or a little bit of that um i think it was mostly i,

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wanted a new hobby i knew i would get in better shape with it um i knew i would

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want to compete because i mean listen everything's a competition um and so i

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guess my i'm sensing some competitiveness,

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yeah yeah um i played

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college soccer uh i've just

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been involved in all kinds of sports anything from like i did high school rodeo

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i kind of did a little bit of everything i'm a jack of all trades go ahead okay

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i yeah on my competitive background is is a lot of a lot of different things

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uh i'm I like a good challenge,

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but I guess I knew I would compete if I started jiu-jitsu.

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I watched Carrie compete, and I just knew she was successful,

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and so I tried to replicate the things that she did that would make her successful.

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I love competing. I love the work that goes into it. I love challenging myself.

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It's been a fun way, and it's a different way.

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I tell the ladies that are wanting to compete, but they're kind of afraid.

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I tell them it's a different way to do jujitsu. It's a different area.

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It's a whole different level, but it helps you to.

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Train your mindset and to train your body and to go against people that you

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don't, you know, roll with every, every day, every week.

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That i just i love it yeah you're

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taking uh martial art and you're now you're

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transitioning into doing a sport right like

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now it's a game it's a sport uh yeah you

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get to go against you really get to test out

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your skills and ability when you're with someone that

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you've never you're competing against someone you've never

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seen before or um you know

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it also wants to win and

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beat you he doesn't want you to win right uh um

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carrie do you but i i will come back to i have a thought that but i want to

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get a little input from carrie before i do that carrie did you also go into

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jiu-jitsu knowing you were going to compete or did you uh like other i mean

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there's plenty of other people where they kind of fall into it and then you

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know they get the competition bug, right?

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Yeah. I didn't really think about competing to begin with.

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To begin with, I just wanted to see if I could do it.

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I didn't know, because I was worried about the touching and I didn't know if I could handle it.

00:18:35.753 --> 00:18:41.393
So I didn't start out planning to compete, but At our gym, they kind of,

00:18:41.773 --> 00:18:43.533
you know, my kids weren't competing.

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And so it was just, it was what everybody did.

00:18:48.293 --> 00:18:55.713
So I, I did my first, first NAGA when I had been training for five months.

00:18:55.893 --> 00:18:59.193
So I, I started competing right away.

00:19:00.193 --> 00:19:04.513
But I'd been, you know, being around it for two years, watching my kids made

00:19:04.513 --> 00:19:09.613
it where like, I understood the language. I understood the goals.

00:19:09.893 --> 00:19:15.993
So I advanced really quickly having just washed for two years.

00:19:16.213 --> 00:19:22.973
So I competed right away, but it wasn't my intention to compete. Um.

00:19:23.978 --> 00:19:28.858
I, once I did it, I liked it. I liked competing. I liked the feedback.

00:19:29.238 --> 00:19:34.918
I liked seeing where making mistakes and knowing how and learning to correct them.

00:19:35.678 --> 00:19:41.918
So I, you know, in our, our professor, Karen, she was, she's a world,

00:19:42.078 --> 00:19:45.378
you know, one, several master worlds at all different belts.

00:19:45.618 --> 00:19:49.598
And so you kind of follow the example that's been set for you.

00:19:50.318 --> 00:19:53.818
Yeah that's those are pretty much the two different uh two

00:19:53.818 --> 00:19:57.018
different camps for people end up competing you know

00:19:57.018 --> 00:19:59.918
the people that want to compete you know

00:19:59.918 --> 00:20:03.718
the people that find out that they really like competing even though

00:20:03.718 --> 00:20:07.678
they've originally done their first competition um i

00:20:07.678 --> 00:20:11.158
have a guy who did that he didn't want

00:20:11.158 --> 00:20:13.938
to compete i talked him into his first competition now

00:20:13.938 --> 00:20:18.458
he's got something like every month so it's

00:20:18.458 --> 00:20:21.998
yeah and i think having kids

00:20:21.998 --> 00:20:30.238
competing where you kind of they're doing it and so how can you tell them to

00:20:30.238 --> 00:20:35.058
be brave and challenge themselves to compete if you're not willing to do it

00:20:35.058 --> 00:20:41.278
so that kind of my my son who was 11 when i did my first.

00:20:42.058 --> 00:20:45.378
First competition and right before he taught

00:20:45.378 --> 00:20:50.378
me he showed me how to do an s mount armbar and you know 11 year old taught

00:20:50.378 --> 00:20:55.558
me my s mount armbar and i went out there and got it and you know it was it

00:20:55.558 --> 00:21:04.398
was cool to make my kids proud i taught her that yeah yeah oh in the in the same regard.

00:21:05.926 --> 00:21:08.846
I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was okay.

00:21:09.006 --> 00:21:14.326
I was thinking in the same regard, like we don't, you know, push our ladies to compete.

00:21:14.686 --> 00:21:19.026
We encourage, you know, like, hey, this is a different way to challenge yourself.

00:21:19.526 --> 00:21:23.746
You know, try it, you know, try a new hard and try it.

00:21:23.926 --> 00:21:28.586
But, you know, there's plenty of ladies that won't ever compete.

00:21:28.586 --> 00:21:32.026
But the cool thing about if you sign

00:21:32.026 --> 00:21:35.146
up for a competition you know it's apples to apples right

00:21:35.146 --> 00:21:38.226
they're the they're your age they're your weight they're your

00:21:38.226 --> 00:21:40.906
belt and so a lot

00:21:40.906 --> 00:21:43.886
of people have never like done that

00:21:43.886 --> 00:21:46.806
they've never they've always had to you know fight somebody

00:21:46.806 --> 00:21:50.026
bigger or younger or you know and so

00:21:50.026 --> 00:21:53.166
for for you to be able to go out and go like this this one

00:21:53.166 --> 00:21:55.986
is like me now let's see who's better you know

00:21:55.986 --> 00:21:59.406
it's like it's a great thing we have a master

00:21:59.406 --> 00:22:02.866
seven woman in our in

00:22:02.866 --> 00:22:05.746
our community and she has never had never

00:22:05.746 --> 00:22:13.426
up until july of this year bought someone her age i'm a master four uh just

00:22:13.426 --> 00:22:17.206
turned to a master four and i you know she was fighting the youngest or the

00:22:17.206 --> 00:22:21.886
oldest person she'd ever fought was a master three and we found her a master

00:22:21.886 --> 00:22:24.706
seven at austin the Austin Open this summer.

00:22:24.946 --> 00:22:31.026
She got to go fight someone her age, her rank, and her weight. And it was so great.

00:22:31.306 --> 00:22:36.306
And it was amazing. Like, it was amazing to see the crowd that drew around two

00:22:36.306 --> 00:22:42.366
Master 7 female bluebells, you know, because people were like, oh,

00:22:42.626 --> 00:22:47.266
I mean, there was this woman that was next to me, and I think she was 50,

00:22:47.266 --> 00:22:49.746
and she'd started Jiu-Jitsu like a year earlier.

00:22:49.746 --> 00:22:53.286
And she's like, I didn't know I could compete, but I can do this.

00:22:53.506 --> 00:22:58.806
Like, they're doing this. I can do this. And so that was really cool. Yeah, it is cool.

00:23:00.185 --> 00:23:04.625
Um, my question was gonna be if you compete at the same tournaments that your kids do.

00:23:04.925 --> 00:23:09.005
Um, you know, if you guys, if you bring them, they compete, you compete,

00:23:09.165 --> 00:23:11.005
you get to watch them, they get to watch you.

00:23:11.685 --> 00:23:20.145
Um, so again, I had, I mean, in the past, I used my, my, I have four kids and

00:23:20.145 --> 00:23:22.765
only the youngest is still training.

00:23:23.145 --> 00:23:28.085
And so she's not debating a lot, but when my older kids were competing,

00:23:28.565 --> 00:23:33.965
we would the My three kids and myself, the four of us, would all compete together.

00:23:35.245 --> 00:23:39.405
So we've done it. And Millie's done it. She's competed with her coaches. Yeah.

00:23:40.485 --> 00:23:47.185
It's interesting. It's like my first competition, the boys, they competed all morning.

00:23:47.385 --> 00:23:53.805
And the master white belt females, and we're at the end of the day.

00:23:54.105 --> 00:23:58.525
And so Coach Karen had to tell my boys, she's not your mom right now.

00:23:58.605 --> 00:24:02.485
You got to let her get ready. she's gonna fight somebody so it

00:24:02.485 --> 00:24:05.305
was interesting but yeah we we both competed with our

00:24:05.305 --> 00:24:08.125
kids and it is good and you know I think

00:24:08.125 --> 00:24:14.165
it was funny to me the first tournament that I went with my boys to after I

00:24:14.165 --> 00:24:19.205
started training I was it was only a few months in but they they just thought

00:24:19.205 --> 00:24:23.445
it was the coolest thing like my youngest was like mom let's go to the warm-up

00:24:23.445 --> 00:24:26.605
mat you can help me warm I was official.

00:24:26.825 --> 00:24:32.245
I knew jiu-jitsu. I knew enough to help him warm up, and he thought I was pretty cool for that.

00:24:33.165 --> 00:24:37.865
Yeah, it is really cool. I have kids, and they're not old enough to train yet,

00:24:37.925 --> 00:24:39.665
but I was curious about that.

00:24:40.434 --> 00:24:48.214
Um, then another, you know, um, we've noticed we've had quite a few like competitive

00:24:48.214 --> 00:24:51.134
jujitsu women on the show.

00:24:51.134 --> 00:24:57.534
Uh, there's definitely a common link with, uh, big brothers or college athletes.

00:24:57.834 --> 00:25:04.034
Um, so yeah, either fighting their big brothers or being competitive athletes in college.

00:25:04.294 --> 00:25:07.474
Um, so I, I find that interesting. that

00:25:07.474 --> 00:25:10.314
continues uh do you guys i mean

00:25:10.314 --> 00:25:13.094
you guys see you know you've got you're running a women's program do

00:25:13.094 --> 00:25:16.174
you see a lot of that is that like a they're a common thread there

00:25:16.174 --> 00:25:18.954
through your like the women that

00:25:18.954 --> 00:25:22.374
come to the program as well like the ones that end up competing obviously

00:25:22.374 --> 00:25:25.194
i mean i know there's gonna be a break away from

00:25:25.194 --> 00:25:28.694
that but uh is that carry true outside

00:25:28.694 --> 00:25:31.734
of just the guests on our podcast but we

00:25:31.734 --> 00:25:35.494
we have all all

00:25:35.494 --> 00:25:39.314
women from all different backgrounds you tend

00:25:39.314 --> 00:25:42.674
to attract women that are like you

00:25:42.674 --> 00:25:51.034
so we have a lot of moms we're moms and so and some and we um you know i coach

00:25:51.034 --> 00:25:56.294
kids classes and so when i'm coaching the kids classes i I meet the moms and

00:25:56.294 --> 00:25:59.354
I talk to them and, you know, and kind of just,

00:25:59.634 --> 00:26:01.214
you know, get to know them.

00:26:01.454 --> 00:26:07.034
And so then a lot of the moms, they see me and they see me coach and they see

00:26:07.034 --> 00:26:09.294
they're, they just, they're around it.

00:26:09.454 --> 00:26:11.634
And then they decide to try it out.

00:26:11.854 --> 00:26:19.674
And so we have the one mom that our blue belt that she never did any sport ever.

00:26:20.794 --> 00:26:24.314
Yeah, she literally got her letter jacket from the debate team.

00:26:24.594 --> 00:26:29.754
So she has, like we say, sportsy type lingo to her. And she's like, what?

00:26:31.134 --> 00:26:35.334
And she never thought she'd do something sportsy or athletic.

00:26:35.674 --> 00:26:38.394
But she's, you know, taken to it. And then...

00:26:39.426 --> 00:26:44.266
There's quite a few ladies that never have done anything athletic and they're,

00:26:44.266 --> 00:26:49.066
you know, finding their way and changing the way they see themselves to see

00:26:49.066 --> 00:26:53.366
themselves, to see that, see all that they're capable of doing.

00:26:53.366 --> 00:26:59.646
So some of the ladies are, I mean, we have a few college basketball players

00:26:59.646 --> 00:27:03.786
and a few, you know, big brothers, ladies and good brothers.

00:27:04.026 --> 00:27:10.746
But a lot of them, we really encourage women to, that they can do something

00:27:10.746 --> 00:27:11.846
they've never done before.

00:27:12.246 --> 00:27:18.626
And especially with, as a mom, you know, your identity becomes that you're a

00:27:18.626 --> 00:27:21.486
mom and you kind of forget what we can do.

00:27:21.486 --> 00:27:24.806
And so what's great about jiu-jitsu is

00:27:24.806 --> 00:27:27.586
they're able to see they are you know

00:27:27.586 --> 00:27:30.826
being a mom is wonderful and i love it and i'm so glad to

00:27:30.826 --> 00:27:33.886
do that but also that they can see they're capable

00:27:33.886 --> 00:27:36.746
of more than you know they're more than just

00:27:36.746 --> 00:27:41.966
a mom they can be athletic they can be strong they can you know work hard and

00:27:41.966 --> 00:27:48.206
it i feel like doing jiu-jitsu is not only like they're learning the sport but

00:27:48.206 --> 00:27:54.226
they're changing the way that they see themselves and that's what I love is then,

00:27:54.786 --> 00:27:58.846
you know I love seeing women start out where there's things you know their body

00:27:58.846 --> 00:28:02.666
doesn't know how to do it and over time like their body learns how to move in

00:28:02.666 --> 00:28:04.406
these jujitsu-y ways and.

00:28:05.086 --> 00:28:12.566
It's just fun to see them grow and change by doing jujitsu and doing something hard.

00:28:13.860 --> 00:28:19.440
Like you said, you're always having your team chase that next, in quotes,

00:28:19.740 --> 00:28:25.480
hard thing that is in front of them, which has the confidence boosting and moral

00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:31.400
or ethical or spiritual strengthening process, which is true for male, female, whatever.

00:28:31.660 --> 00:28:37.120
We get lots of brand new competitors, all shapes and sizes, who are all nervous.

00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.960
And it's uh it's i i don't also

00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.880
same stance as you guys i don't require anyone or push

00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:50.780
anyone doesn't want to compete i always advertise if you will the the value

00:28:50.780 --> 00:28:55.620
that an individual can get from it because in my opinion i think it's it's one

00:28:55.620 --> 00:29:02.620
of the best ways to get the most or maybe the the the biggest amount of wisdom, I suppose,

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.680
from the jiu-jitsu world that we're all in because.

00:29:07.780 --> 00:29:10.260
You're tested in that moment.

00:29:10.260 --> 00:29:14.200
And there's a big difference between all of us stepping on the mat with our

00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:19.520
buddies that we get comfortable with and going really hard and training and get tapped out.

00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.400
You tap them out. I think that's great and all, but like you mentioned,

00:29:22.460 --> 00:29:24.440
or maybe Michael mentioned earlier, like you're going to go out there and the

00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:28.800
other person's going to try and stop you and you just get a result.

00:29:29.280 --> 00:29:33.760
It may not be the result you want. Sometimes it is, but it's going to educate you.

00:29:34.280 --> 00:29:37.780
And so like the moral courage it takes for a person to do that,

00:29:38.120 --> 00:29:39.300
male, female, whatever.

00:29:40.020 --> 00:29:42.780
I think it's been the most beneficial thing for me.

00:29:43.540 --> 00:29:47.880
So I love sharing that story with anyone. And I love hearing that you guys are doing that.

00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:54.080
Yeah, what I like about, I often tell people competing is like,

00:29:55.028 --> 00:29:57.768
compound interest on your training you know

00:29:57.768 --> 00:30:01.228
it's it's you have a focus you're you're training

00:30:01.228 --> 00:30:04.288
maybe you're picking up extra training sessions

00:30:04.288 --> 00:30:07.468
you're gaining experience you're gaining

00:30:07.468 --> 00:30:10.628
experience in the moment of the actual match or

00:30:10.628 --> 00:30:13.728
matches and like mental fortitude all

00:30:13.728 --> 00:30:20.328
those things it's it is it's like exponential growth just just by doing it and

00:30:20.328 --> 00:30:27.088
so I I do encourage people for that sense but But I'm also a little sometimes

00:30:27.088 --> 00:30:32.908
envious of just the hobbyists that just they are they don't have a certain goal.

00:30:33.148 --> 00:30:37.088
Like they're not like, OK, so my next tournament is going to be Nogi World.

00:30:37.328 --> 00:30:40.108
So I'm like, OK, what's next? Nogi World. Now I've got, you know,

00:30:40.188 --> 00:30:41.788
what do I want to work on? What do I need to work on?

00:30:42.188 --> 00:30:45.828
You know, they're just here and they're learning and they're getting better

00:30:45.828 --> 00:30:48.388
and they're valuable to our community.

00:30:48.848 --> 00:30:52.928
And I'm a little envious like they can just roll up and enjoy that.

00:30:52.928 --> 00:30:55.728
And not that I don't enjoy what I'm

00:30:55.728 --> 00:31:00.608
doing but that's a great thing like they just love jujitsu and they love what

00:31:00.608 --> 00:31:06.388
they get out of it and they love being here and it's part of an escape for them

00:31:06.388 --> 00:31:13.368
and they just enjoy it but I was listening to another podcast a while back and one of the.

00:31:14.779 --> 00:31:19.279
Guests on the podcast talked about how jiu-jitsu is so different from any other

00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:25.619
sport because at my gym, I have competitive athletes, professional athletes.

00:31:25.859 --> 00:31:28.439
I have people that that's like, that's what they do.

00:31:28.739 --> 00:31:34.479
But at the same time, we also have just a mom that's just here so she can get

00:31:34.479 --> 00:31:40.279
a break from her kids. Or we have a guy that's like a customer service guy and

00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.359
he He is weighed down by the world and he just wants to come train.

00:31:43.619 --> 00:31:46.259
And no other sports like that, right?

00:31:46.479 --> 00:31:52.459
You don't see people out, you know, with the Lakers, like a dad that just played

00:31:52.459 --> 00:31:53.499
basketball on the weekends.

00:31:53.619 --> 00:31:55.799
He doesn't train with the Lakers during the week.

00:31:56.019 --> 00:32:01.019
But in jujitsu, you have like professional competitive people and the hobbyists

00:32:01.019 --> 00:32:02.359
all together all the time.

00:32:02.539 --> 00:32:05.819
So it's just and it's and you need them. That's part of the community.

00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:10.099
And so I think it's really interesting that no other sports like that.

00:32:11.448 --> 00:32:18.928
Yeah, that's very true. You definitely don't normally run into your average

00:32:18.928 --> 00:32:23.068
Joe training with top guys. Yeah, Michael Jordan.

00:32:25.008 --> 00:32:29.308
Yeah, that is for sure. Kind of on that,

00:32:29.568 --> 00:32:34.148
you guys mentioned before we got on the show,

00:32:34.268 --> 00:32:37.088
we got a little information from you guys and you kind

00:32:37.088 --> 00:32:40.408
of mentioned your you know how you're curating

00:32:40.408 --> 00:32:43.448
this community that you're of of

00:32:43.448 --> 00:32:47.168
women training together um and if

00:32:47.168 --> 00:32:50.868
you don't want to answer this this is fine the secret sauce um

00:32:50.868 --> 00:32:53.828
but you know you kind of mentioned like that you have uh

00:32:53.828 --> 00:32:57.228
you have like specific ways that you're recruiting

00:32:57.228 --> 00:33:00.508
basically recruiting people to join this program um

00:33:00.508 --> 00:33:04.068
and you know i kind of was curious outside

00:33:04.068 --> 00:33:07.188
of you know i guess it seems like you're recruiting people from

00:33:07.188 --> 00:33:10.988
you know moms from the kids class um the

00:33:10.988 --> 00:33:13.668
kids children's program um are there

00:33:13.668 --> 00:33:16.908
other women's only programs in

00:33:16.908 --> 00:33:22.348
your area or are you guys the only one is there specific things you're doing

00:33:22.348 --> 00:33:27.628
to help like bring people in and get them all together at your program well

00:33:27.628 --> 00:33:36.688
we have the recruiting we do just for genesis is through basically mostly the moms from kids'

00:33:36.868 --> 00:33:43.648
classes, but the DFW area has a lot of women training,

00:33:43.988 --> 00:33:47.768
and so there are different groups that have the math.

00:33:49.195 --> 00:33:54.435
And so we, you know, they'll have an open mat at just one of the gyms in the

00:33:54.435 --> 00:33:56.395
area, a ladies-only open mat.

00:33:56.555 --> 00:34:02.455
And we'll go to that and train with lots of ladies from all the different gyms.

00:34:02.735 --> 00:34:08.495
So there's, you know, we're not, there are quite a few women's classes,

00:34:08.855 --> 00:34:12.295
gyms that have women's-only programs.

00:34:12.295 --> 00:34:17.955
And we just want women to do jujitsu. So we're happy to support that.

00:34:18.155 --> 00:34:24.935
And we go, you know, join in on those groups whenever there's something happening.

00:34:25.575 --> 00:34:29.395
And I mean, I think it's just a lot of the natural outflow. Like you talk to

00:34:29.395 --> 00:34:31.495
somebody, what do you what do you end up talking about?

00:34:31.855 --> 00:34:36.135
They're like, oh, where'd you get that Bruce? Well, you would never guess.

00:34:36.715 --> 00:34:39.555
Jiu-jitsu and so then people are really interested they're

00:34:39.555 --> 00:34:42.235
like oh yeah i've been you know i've been

00:34:42.235 --> 00:34:45.815
watching the ufc and i've you know it's jiu-jitsu

00:34:45.815 --> 00:34:48.675
is growing a lot and you know i think

00:34:48.675 --> 00:34:51.735
a lot of it is word of mouth right you you fall

00:34:51.735 --> 00:34:54.895
in love with it and you want to tell other people about it but you know

00:34:54.895 --> 00:34:57.835
we just we try to you know we use

00:34:57.835 --> 00:35:00.995
social media and things like that just to you know

00:35:00.995 --> 00:35:03.655
get our name out there and and you know

00:35:03.655 --> 00:35:07.175
women can look us up we one

00:35:07.175 --> 00:35:10.735
of the I think a lot of what we do that is

00:35:10.735 --> 00:35:16.915
different is just what we do in retention you know we we try to cultivate the

00:35:16.915 --> 00:35:23.295
relationship with these women and you know we we have a group me that we use

00:35:23.295 --> 00:35:27.675
and and any woman's allowed to be on it it's not just like only genesis women

00:35:27.675 --> 00:35:29.935
training at genesis so we have our, you know,

00:35:30.135 --> 00:35:33.975
our different friends from different gyms that we cross train with and they're on there too.

00:35:34.215 --> 00:35:38.615
And we kind of create this sense of community where we, okay,

00:35:38.915 --> 00:35:40.575
you know, who's training where this week?

00:35:40.875 --> 00:35:43.155
What, you know, are we going to an open mat? And.

00:35:46.305 --> 00:35:49.825
Events that are outside of class to do together.

00:35:50.305 --> 00:35:55.765
So we had a basketball birthday party for one of our basketball girls.

00:35:55.945 --> 00:35:59.685
She said, I just want to do something that I can beat you guys at.

00:36:00.325 --> 00:36:05.825
So she wanted to play basketball against the Jiu-Jitsu black belt so she could beat her.

00:36:08.125 --> 00:36:13.005
And so we just, we try to create community in that way, which,

00:36:13.165 --> 00:36:17.345
you know, I think it does keep them coming back, you know, and that,

00:36:17.825 --> 00:36:21.605
oh, I need to show up because, you know, so-and-so is going to be there and

00:36:21.605 --> 00:36:23.125
she's my partner, you know.

00:36:23.425 --> 00:36:29.325
I think that, you know, our retention is really good. And that comes from,

00:36:29.445 --> 00:36:33.065
you know, women don't show up because they want to suffer.

00:36:33.285 --> 00:36:37.145
They want to show up with their friends. And it's the community.

00:36:37.365 --> 00:36:44.345
These are, we care about each other. We do celebrate birthdays.

00:36:44.925 --> 00:36:51.345
We did the basketball birthday party. We went out to do poetry reading the other

00:36:51.345 --> 00:36:52.985
night for somebody's birthday.

00:36:53.345 --> 00:36:58.765
And it's creating this community, creating a support system that a lot of the

00:36:58.765 --> 00:37:01.225
ladies don't have somewhere else.

00:37:01.445 --> 00:37:08.245
And then that's what keeps them back, even when it's hard, even when they feel

00:37:08.245 --> 00:37:09.345
like they're not very good.

00:37:09.445 --> 00:37:13.865
They know we care about them and we've walked them here and that they belong here with us.

00:37:15.158 --> 00:37:19.118
Very cool. Why don't we talk about the Unbreakable Women's Camp?

00:37:19.318 --> 00:37:19.858
Is that what it's called?

00:37:20.918 --> 00:37:27.718
Unbreakable Women's Grappling Camp. Oh, yeah. Yes. Unbreakable Women's Grappling Camp.

00:37:29.638 --> 00:37:36.058
So with that, we have gone to some other women-only camp.

00:37:36.358 --> 00:37:44.998
We went to one in San Diego, California. And it was a great experience and we really loved it.

00:37:45.158 --> 00:37:50.898
And we wanted to give the ladies in our area and DFW an opportunity to come

00:37:50.898 --> 00:37:53.418
to a camp that is accessible.

00:37:53.678 --> 00:37:58.158
You know, a lot of since a lot of our ladies are moms to ask them to travel

00:37:58.158 --> 00:38:04.458
somewhere, you know, to get away for not only the weekend, but for the traveling and the cost.

00:38:04.638 --> 00:38:08.638
That's it's not accessible. That's not something, you know, a lot of the women

00:38:08.638 --> 00:38:14.078
would never get to go to a camp if they have to fly to San Diego to the East Coast.

00:38:14.238 --> 00:38:19.518
And so we wanted to create our own camp that's here and accessible for the ladies

00:38:19.518 --> 00:38:23.478
that live in this, you know, live like, hey, they can come from anywhere.

00:38:23.838 --> 00:38:30.278
But especially our DFW ladies, there are so many women doing jujitsu around

00:38:30.278 --> 00:38:35.838
here in Oklahoma. and we wanted a camp that they could come to and get to experience.

00:38:37.213 --> 00:38:42.813
How does it work? You guys set aside a number of days, you use the Genesis location

00:38:42.813 --> 00:38:45.213
or another location and invite folks all over.

00:38:46.433 --> 00:38:52.293
How does it actually work? Okay, so it's a two-day camp and we are hosting it

00:38:52.293 --> 00:38:54.893
at the Sheridan Hotel in downtown Fort Worth.

00:38:55.253 --> 00:38:59.913
So we have 4,600 square foot of

00:38:59.913 --> 00:39:06.093
space, 3,600 square foot of mat space that Gameness has sponsored for us.

00:39:06.093 --> 00:39:13.213
And so for two days, we will meet. We'll have two two-hour seminars each day,

00:39:13.333 --> 00:39:15.013
followed by an hour open mat.

00:39:15.213 --> 00:39:19.093
And then we have breakout sessions. So we're going to talk about competition

00:39:19.093 --> 00:39:24.933
mindset, you know, training, a different, just different things.

00:39:24.933 --> 00:39:31.553
Like we want to help other gyms to cultivate a strong women's community.

00:39:31.553 --> 00:39:36.853
So we're going to talk about the things that we do that work and just share that with others.

00:39:37.653 --> 00:39:40.973
And so it's since it's on site at a hotel, if, you know,

00:39:41.093 --> 00:39:46.433
ladies want to come in and make it like a girls weekend and they all come in

00:39:46.433 --> 00:39:51.033
and rent a couple of rooms and train all weekend together and meet new ladies

00:39:51.033 --> 00:39:54.553
and get to roll and learn new techniques.

00:39:54.553 --> 00:39:57.733
And just have a jujitsu girls weekend.

00:39:57.953 --> 00:40:00.813
That's what we want for them. But it's also, you know, it's like,

00:40:00.913 --> 00:40:05.733
if they live in the area, they don't have to, you know, rent a room. They can just drive in.

00:40:06.413 --> 00:40:09.493
So it's gonna be, you know, over eight hours of instruction.

00:40:11.404 --> 00:40:14.944
Of open mat time and time to talk to the

00:40:14.944 --> 00:40:18.064
black belts and just create community within our

00:40:18.064 --> 00:40:21.204
our area do you have um

00:40:21.204 --> 00:40:24.864
is it mostly instruction from other

00:40:24.864 --> 00:40:27.644
women's black belts from your area do

00:40:27.644 --> 00:40:30.684
you have people come in um from out

00:40:30.684 --> 00:40:34.564
of town that maybe so carrie's

00:40:34.564 --> 00:40:37.604
gonna do carrie's gonna to do one seminar or yeah

00:40:37.604 --> 00:40:40.784
one seminar session and then we

00:40:40.784 --> 00:40:47.504
have three other female black belts so we have Daisy Leandro from Ephesians

00:40:47.504 --> 00:40:53.564
6 she's known as the arm bar hunter and she's from our area so she'll be traveling

00:40:53.564 --> 00:41:00.084
just locally and then we have Liz Metrovic and Kelsey Carter.

00:41:01.004 --> 00:41:03.964
Both coming in to do each do a session

00:41:03.964 --> 00:41:07.684
very cool um it sounds

00:41:07.684 --> 00:41:10.504
like it's a pretty big camp uh that you guys got going that's

00:41:10.504 --> 00:41:13.444
a lot of math space um so i i assume

00:41:13.444 --> 00:41:16.344
you're getting really good uh turnout for

00:41:16.344 --> 00:41:19.564
these um especially you know getting the

00:41:19.564 --> 00:41:22.924
getting the uh sponsorship with

00:41:22.924 --> 00:41:26.104
gameness and all of that that's that's really cool um

00:41:26.104 --> 00:41:29.184
when is it it's february

00:41:29.184 --> 00:41:33.044
6th and 7th in 2026 awesome

00:41:33.044 --> 00:41:35.924
so we uh you got plenty of lead-up time for any of our

00:41:35.924 --> 00:41:39.284
listeners that might be interested in going to that area um

00:41:39.284 --> 00:41:43.364
actually might be dang close

00:41:43.364 --> 00:41:46.184
if i actually that wouldn't be up yet never mind

00:41:46.184 --> 00:41:49.104
i was gonna say i think that might actually be kind of close to might be

00:41:49.104 --> 00:41:55.524
some competitions around that time down that way um but they might not be posted

00:41:55.524 --> 00:42:03.304
yet um and then another question we have is unbreakable where did that where

00:42:03.304 --> 00:42:08.804
did you guys come up with the that naming that branding um why unbreakable.

00:42:09.739 --> 00:42:17.799
Well, we were just talking about a word that would kind of exemplify many things

00:42:17.799 --> 00:42:20.859
in Jiu-Jitsu, right? Like you would want the unbreakable group.

00:42:21.399 --> 00:42:25.399
And people were trying to break your arms.

00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:32.619
So you want to be unbreakable. But we talked a lot about the bonds created that

00:42:32.619 --> 00:42:35.039
we have an unbreakable spirit.

00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:41.239
Like, you know, you you're put in these sometimes really terrible positions in jujitsu.

00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:46.179
And, you know, a lot of it isn't like I don't have the physical ability.

00:42:46.439 --> 00:42:49.179
Sometimes it's just mental, right? You want to be unbreakable.

00:42:49.319 --> 00:42:55.699
Like, I know I have this task before me and I don't I don't want to break in the middle of it.

00:42:55.839 --> 00:43:01.179
Like, I want to have a strong mind, strong heart, you know, and all those things

00:43:01.179 --> 00:43:05.019
are curated by like strong friendships.

00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.899
And teamwork and all the things that

00:43:07.899 --> 00:43:12.779
go along with jiu-jitsu and yeah so we we were coming up with all kinds of things

00:43:12.779 --> 00:43:16.499
but unbreakable just they just sat with both of us and we're like okay that's

00:43:16.499 --> 00:43:23.479
it yeah it's that makes sense to me that's that's uh it's an awesome reason

00:43:23.479 --> 00:43:27.219
um so oh i had another question.

00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.379
Don't lose interest.

00:43:32.959 --> 00:43:40.459
So, got the instructors. So you're doing about eight hours of instruction. Is that each day?

00:43:41.879 --> 00:43:45.879
It'll be four hours. It'll be two four-hour sessions each day.

00:43:48.019 --> 00:43:52.439
Are these... Are you rotating people through? I'm just trying to get a feel

00:43:52.439 --> 00:43:55.799
for the format here. Are you doing like,

00:43:56.902 --> 00:43:59.642
everybody with each instructor for an

00:43:59.642 --> 00:44:02.322
hour do you guys have this rotated through so you

00:44:02.322 --> 00:44:08.042
have groups in their group a with instructor a and it rotates through so everybody's

00:44:08.042 --> 00:44:11.902
kind of getting a full through or is it one hour per instructor for everybody

00:44:11.902 --> 00:44:17.642
so it'll be two so the first day will be all gi and so we'll have two instructors

00:44:17.642 --> 00:44:21.322
so each instructor will have a two hour seminar.

00:44:21.922 --> 00:44:25.382
And then the next, the second day is a no-gi day.

00:44:25.602 --> 00:44:32.022
And so the other two instructors will split those the day up that way.

00:44:32.182 --> 00:44:38.562
And we have an option where, because, you know, people love no-gi and people love gi.

00:44:39.822 --> 00:44:48.602
I love both, but I wanted to give my no-gi-ers an option to just show up to to the Nogi day.

00:44:48.802 --> 00:44:52.902
They can come do a one-day camp if they want.

00:44:53.142 --> 00:44:56.362
So that's how we have it formatted.

00:44:57.342 --> 00:45:02.762
3,600 square feet of mat space? Yes. That's a lot. Yeah.

00:45:04.262 --> 00:45:11.022
What's the capacity you're looking for for this? We're going to cap it at 150. Oh, wow. That's huge.

00:45:11.642 --> 00:45:14.342
We would love to help you guys hit every bit of 150.

00:45:15.022 --> 00:45:18.622
Oh, that would be great. And for women who might be interested,

00:45:18.862 --> 00:45:21.222
it doesn't quite line up.

00:45:21.442 --> 00:45:26.942
It's two weeks later is the Austin Open, which isn't that close to Fort Worth, but it's close enough.

00:45:27.602 --> 00:45:30.002
Oh, yeah. It's close enough that I'm going to go.

00:45:33.042 --> 00:45:37.222
Oh, yeah. So it's we we thought that, too. We thought that would be perfect

00:45:37.222 --> 00:45:43.022
timing as far as, you know, being able to come and get some instruction and

00:45:43.022 --> 00:45:47.982
get some different looks on roles, you know, an open mat environment.

00:45:49.691 --> 00:45:55.471
Conflict with any other competition. And we're hoping the ladies will want to

00:45:55.471 --> 00:45:57.831
make a girls trip out of this.

00:45:58.131 --> 00:46:02.451
We have done girls trips that were competition girls trips.

00:46:02.651 --> 00:46:08.371
When we went to Austin in July, there were eight of us and six competed.

00:46:08.731 --> 00:46:13.471
Six of the ladies competed and some of them was the first time they've ever competed.

00:46:13.791 --> 00:46:16.671
And the girls trip was fun, but doing

00:46:16.671 --> 00:46:20.051
a competition is also hard because

00:46:20.051 --> 00:46:23.291
you have ladies cutting weight and then the nerves

00:46:23.291 --> 00:46:26.031
and the idea of a camp and there's no

00:46:26.031 --> 00:46:28.911
pressure of competing you can just go on

00:46:28.911 --> 00:46:33.871
a girls trip and we're just learning jujitsu together and rolling and you know

00:46:33.871 --> 00:46:40.711
so trying to this again because community is what keeps women in jujitsu the

00:46:40.711 --> 00:46:45.771
relationship is trying to create an opportunity for ladies to come to you know,

00:46:45.931 --> 00:46:47.991
make a thrall strip of it, come to the camp,

00:46:48.491 --> 00:46:51.891
you know, develop, like strengthen their community within their gym,

00:46:52.131 --> 00:46:54.071
but also seeing other ladies.

00:46:54.291 --> 00:46:59.591
I remember the first time I went to Master World, I had never seen so many female black belts.

00:46:59.871 --> 00:47:04.611
It was, it was amazing to see so many women doing jujitsu and,

00:47:04.811 --> 00:47:09.811
you know, having a camp like this, some women don't have any women in their gym.

00:47:09.851 --> 00:47:14.391
And this is their opportunity to get to train and roll with more ladies.

00:47:15.636 --> 00:47:19.176
I think the message resonates and just, I was a betting man.

00:47:19.316 --> 00:47:22.796
I'd say you'll probably, as the message spreads, there'll be a lot of them.

00:47:24.616 --> 00:47:28.736
Or just travel solo. Like you said, if there's not, they don't have that community in the area.

00:47:29.356 --> 00:47:33.516
We have just in the DC area, this is why your story I think resonates so well.

00:47:33.656 --> 00:47:36.936
There's, there's a very similar, I don't know what to call it,

00:47:36.996 --> 00:47:39.496
like brown swell of like female excitement for the sport.

00:47:39.596 --> 00:47:42.676
And there's a lot of similar activities in our area.

00:47:42.776 --> 00:47:49.136
I don't know about any camps, But I think hopefully our female audience in our

00:47:49.136 --> 00:47:51.256
area hears this, they'll bite.

00:47:51.416 --> 00:47:53.616
I think it's a really cool idea.

00:47:54.216 --> 00:47:57.536
Also, just last thing, I don't know if you've already filled out capacity for all your instructors,

00:47:57.616 --> 00:48:02.696
but if you want to explore black belt or competitive level female competitors

00:48:02.696 --> 00:48:07.476
across the country, we have quite a few up here that I'd be happy to introduce

00:48:07.476 --> 00:48:09.376
you to if that provides any value.

00:48:10.216 --> 00:48:12.336
Okay, thanks. You agree.

00:48:13.776 --> 00:48:14.716
And,

00:48:15.852 --> 00:48:20.592
is pivoting off a little bit but i you guys said you were going to be at nogi worlds this year,

00:48:21.212 --> 00:48:26.352
yes yeah we'll be in there so we'll we'll both be b we'll both be there uh are

00:48:26.352 --> 00:48:27.812
you competing at spot have you

00:48:27.812 --> 00:48:32.312
decided just coaching not just coaching but you're not more competing yeah,

00:48:33.032 --> 00:48:40.572
um well we're both gonna be there so we can try to link up and talk jujitsu yeah it'd be great,

00:48:41.332 --> 00:48:44.372
we can uh well we'll be going probably

00:48:44.372 --> 00:48:47.172
different we have some people

00:48:47.172 --> 00:48:52.132
that well we're gonna be there the whole time which uh

00:48:52.132 --> 00:48:57.192
mindy what division actually you're gonna be up a division is that isn't that

00:48:57.192 --> 00:49:08.692
right by worlds yes yeah so um i'm i'm aiming to do master three brown,

00:49:09.792 --> 00:49:14.272
medium heavy so if there's any ladies tell them to sign up,

00:49:16.152 --> 00:49:21.112
oh yeah yeah i'm looking for a fight so.

00:49:23.772 --> 00:49:27.352
Yeah. You don't want that auto... And then Carrie's Master 3 Black.

00:49:28.652 --> 00:49:30.212
Oh, I don't want that. Yeah.

00:49:32.412 --> 00:49:36.752
Yeah, I'll be out there. You know, Mindy won... With Michael Buss.

00:49:38.025 --> 00:49:41.765
I'll have my head of our women's jiu-jitsu team. She's competing,

00:49:41.785 --> 00:49:44.345
and she'd really get a kick out of meeting you guys.

00:49:45.605 --> 00:49:49.505
Oh, yeah. We'd love to meet her. We're hilarious.

00:49:51.965 --> 00:49:57.925
We think so. You're navigating the audio issues we've had very well. Yes.

00:49:59.525 --> 00:50:02.325
We finally got it dialed in. It's good. It's good.

00:50:03.765 --> 00:50:06.705
That's really cool. uh i had

00:50:06.705 --> 00:50:09.665
other questions i keep

00:50:09.665 --> 00:50:12.905
clicking out of my uh trying to trying to

00:50:12.905 --> 00:50:15.785
match your dates up with other dates i keep clicking

00:50:15.785 --> 00:50:20.925
out of my questions tab um uh but

00:50:20.925 --> 00:50:24.025
the other this is

00:50:24.025 --> 00:50:27.985
pivoting back to your camp um the other

00:50:27.985 --> 00:50:31.045
thing that you talk about is the uh or

00:50:31.045 --> 00:50:33.925
well are there other things outside of the

00:50:33.925 --> 00:50:36.965
jiu-jitsu portion of the camp that is kind of um

00:50:36.965 --> 00:50:40.165
i don't know if i'd say like not like included in

00:50:40.165 --> 00:50:43.265
the tuition but like is there other do you have other things around it

00:50:43.265 --> 00:50:46.205
you know you have the breakout sessions and stuff like that on the mats

00:50:46.205 --> 00:50:50.685
but do you have things out off the mats as well that you include in your uh

00:50:50.685 --> 00:50:56.105
sort of in like the camp package you know whatever but do you do others so we

00:50:56.105 --> 00:51:03.905
have an option uh i'm sorry we have an option to uh have a vip lunch with the

00:51:03.905 --> 00:51:05.585
Black Belts for like a Q&A.

00:51:06.025 --> 00:51:10.965
And so that'll be a catered lunch. But we also, in our swag bag,

00:51:11.165 --> 00:51:15.165
everyone gets a free Unbreakable Rash Guard that's a Gateness brand.

00:51:15.985 --> 00:51:18.865
And I'm excited about it. I like it a lot.

00:51:20.005 --> 00:51:23.205
But we're going to do different things. We're going to have like social hours.

00:51:23.445 --> 00:51:25.645
So there's an indoor pool at the hotel.

00:51:25.925 --> 00:51:30.625
So the first evening we're going to meet at the pool and hang out and swim.

00:51:30.925 --> 00:51:32.965
And then the last night, there's a great.

00:51:34.325 --> 00:51:38.765
Square in downtown Fort Worth called Sundance square. And so afterwards we're

00:51:38.765 --> 00:51:45.305
all gonna shower and head out downtown and, and check it out and hang out together

00:51:45.305 --> 00:51:47.225
and, and that kind of thing.

00:51:47.905 --> 00:51:51.425
It sounds like a good, uh, good additional community building.

00:51:51.685 --> 00:51:56.585
That's a really cool, um, the Q and A with the black belts, like that's a,

00:51:56.685 --> 00:51:57.965
that's definitely a nice value add.

00:51:58.325 --> 00:52:02.765
Um, you get a little bit of extra one-on-one time with people especially after

00:52:02.765 --> 00:52:08.145
hours of instruction so um yeah that's that's really cool,

00:52:09.505 --> 00:52:15.205
um dude i am the most scattered sorry i'm

00:52:15.205 --> 00:52:17.965
slowing the flow i had uh i had another thought in my head and

00:52:17.965 --> 00:52:23.545
then i forgot it because i had to make a comment um but uh

00:52:23.545 --> 00:52:26.805
so you have you guys have your you

00:52:26.805 --> 00:52:33.005
have the swag bag you have the the group sessions uh come back to me i'll remember

00:52:33.005 --> 00:52:39.925
it eventually but uh no it's all good so okay so it's february 26 and 27th six

00:52:39.925 --> 00:52:44.265
no february six and Seven. Six, seven.

00:52:45.425 --> 00:52:46.705
Excuse me.

00:52:49.305 --> 00:52:53.285
One digit. 20 days.

00:52:53.825 --> 00:52:57.745
I was going to say, I'll get that wrong too. The Sheraton, I think.

00:52:58.973 --> 00:53:02.073
The Sheridan downtown Fort Worth. There we go. All right.

00:53:02.193 --> 00:53:08.053
Sheridan downtown Fort Worth looking for 150 ladies to go take a part of this really cool event.

00:53:08.693 --> 00:53:11.953
Yeah, this is awesome. Is there anything else you guys want to promote? I think this is great.

00:53:12.573 --> 00:53:19.173
I can plug our website so they can go and check out for more information and register if they want.

00:53:19.353 --> 00:53:23.573
It is unbreakable-bjj.com.

00:53:24.173 --> 00:53:26.593
Awesome. We'll put that in the show notes too. So you can just click on that.

00:53:27.193 --> 00:53:31.453
Yeah. And we have, you know, our Instagram handled, Unbreakable.

00:53:32.053 --> 00:53:37.093
So we've got, you know, got some entertaining content on there.

00:53:37.353 --> 00:53:42.413
I don't know if you saw, we just did like a bingo card of things that people

00:53:42.413 --> 00:53:43.993
have experienced with Jiu-Jitsu.

00:53:44.413 --> 00:53:47.933
You know, being choked unconscious or choking someone else unconscious.

00:53:48.233 --> 00:53:52.313
And it was, we got a lot of response to that.

00:53:52.493 --> 00:53:55.313
It was great. yeah i was gonna say i think you're uh you even

00:53:55.313 --> 00:54:00.933
mentioned one of your bingo squares of where to get that bruise yeah for sure

00:54:00.933 --> 00:54:08.313
for sure how's karate yeah bjj fanatic shared it so i feel like you know we're

00:54:08.313 --> 00:54:14.313
jiu-jitsu famous now you're now you're now part of the jiu-jitsu lore yeah.

00:54:16.633 --> 00:54:23.013
Um that's really cool guys um i mean i will i'm not part of your target demo

00:54:23.013 --> 00:54:26.813
but i'd be pretty excited for a camp like this i think that sounds like a really

00:54:26.813 --> 00:54:29.473
fun opportunity for anybody who goes um,

00:54:30.508 --> 00:54:34.928
Hopefully you get a lot of people for your VIP package too. That'll be up those numbers.

00:54:35.948 --> 00:54:42.128
Yeah. Yeah. So if I could say one last thing, it'd be like, tell all your lady friends about our camp.

00:54:44.088 --> 00:54:50.728
Oh, we will. Do you guys have this actually, do you guys have like promotional material or something?

00:54:50.928 --> 00:54:55.608
Like, are you going to have like a flyer or some sort of, you know,

00:54:55.708 --> 00:54:58.588
something that someone could print out and make like hard copies of?

00:54:59.308 --> 00:55:03.188
Yeah, we do. We have some postcards, like if anybody is interested,

00:55:03.248 --> 00:55:07.148
we can drop them in the mail or I've got some PDFs and things.

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And we do have our cute little decals that I'm always carrying around to give

00:55:11.848 --> 00:55:13.648
away at tournaments and things like that.

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So I'd be happy to send anybody some freebies if they want to message us on

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Instagram or through the website.

00:55:22.128 --> 00:55:24.948
Yeah um well we'll definitely get with

00:55:24.948 --> 00:55:28.548
you about that off air because i think that would be helpful

00:55:28.548 --> 00:55:31.928
on our end to get to some people so um

00:55:31.928 --> 00:55:34.748
but yeah uh thank you guys for

00:55:34.748 --> 00:55:37.528
coming on this is awesome i think what you guys are doing

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is great um i think that's you

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know more more people on the mats more people we

00:55:43.148 --> 00:55:46.208
can get introduced to the sport is ultimately for

00:55:46.208 --> 00:55:50.568
the better you know growing that community makes us all gets us all more training

00:55:50.568 --> 00:55:55.608
partners more people to compete against um so you know at the end of the day

00:55:55.608 --> 00:55:59.768
that's that's a win for the sport so you guys are doing a great thing it's awesome

00:55:59.768 --> 00:56:03.568
yeah thank you we love it we love what we get to do,

00:56:04.168 --> 00:56:08.448
awesome and uh unless you guys have anything else so go ahead and uh read out

00:56:08.448 --> 00:56:14.148
you guys uh so before that where can people find and connect with you guys i

00:56:14.148 --> 00:56:18.128
know you said the the unbreakable one but But if you guys want to go ahead and plug,

00:56:18.208 --> 00:56:20.548
if you want to plug your personal stuff, you're welcome to now.

00:56:21.722 --> 00:56:32.582
Yeah, I'm at Mindy Carlson underscore BJJ on Instagram and Carrie is I'm carrying

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K-A-R-I underscore Genesis BJJ.

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Awesome. And we'll put that in the show notes. So I'll get that from you guys

00:56:41.302 --> 00:56:43.122
off air to put in the show notes as well.

00:56:44.022 --> 00:56:48.922
But that's that's awesome, guys. And thank you for being on Fighters Drinking Coffee.

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